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Monaro Pioneers Newsletter


2013 Number 11






The MP Database can be used to see all individuals buried in a particular cemetery.  Just log in and choose the option "Cemeteries" and then search for the cemetery you're interested in.  When you choose a cemetery to look at you will see a "Google" map of its location followed by all the tombstone images we have so far and then followed by a list of all the individuals currently listed as interred in that cemetery.  A very nifty feature I am sure you will agree.


Unfortunately, getting this "feature" to be useful has involved weeks of work changing the "burial place" of thousands of entries (one by one) which had additional detail in the burial place like grave number and/or religious denomination.  For example, where a person was previously shown as buried in Bombala Cemetery, NSW Grave 12, they are now shown as buried in Bombala Cemetery, NSW with a Burial Note showing Grave 12.  Thus with all entries for a cemetery having just the one address, you can now see a complete list of everyone interred therein (everyone we know about that is).


The added benefit of this process has been the removal of thousands of unnecessary place addresses from the database.  This process is ongoing as I work my way through the various cemeteries but I hope to have it complete by Christmas. The Monaro district is complete with Bega/Eden next, followed by the Queanbeyan/Braidwood/Yass districts.


I do hope you will try this option and let me know your thoughts including any changes needed or additions that should be made.


Best wishes for the festive season,


Ian Harvey





Message for Australian Fromelles Families

Please  refer to letter in correspondence section below



From: Pat & Frank Raymond
Sent: 2013-10-15 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: Newsletter 2013 No.8


“The Bega Valley Genealogy Society is working on a project of researching all the men whose  names are on the War Memorials throughout the Bega Valley Shire and who are shown as having died – either in battle, from wounds or illness.  Some  died in Australia through illness before they even departed our shore.  Another handful returned home – some being medically unfit and, if they died prior to 1924, their names are also shown as having died from war related injuries.


When the research is complete, a book will be published on these 180 or so men and we are trying to make it a personal account of their lives as well as information on their time within the Forces.


We would dearly love to have a photo of as many of these men as possible to go with their small biographies. Finding photos of these men, preferably in uniform, but, if not, any photos at all, is quite a challenge in itself.  I was wondering if any of your subscribers would have a photo of any of the servicemen connected to the Bega Valley who died in WW1.  Also if anyone has letters that the soldiers wrote back home to their loved ones – this would also be of interest.


So far I have collected 65 photos – if anyone thinks they can assist, it would be best to email me to find out which photos we are still searching for.  My email address is ra80122@bigpond.net.au.


There are a small  number of men whom I haven’t been able to link up with a War Record and, if anyone can give any leads as to whom they might be – or a connection to our area, this would be extremely helpful.


W.P. ALLAN – shown on Bermagui War Memorial.

D. BROWN – shown on Bermagui War Memorial

T. MURPHY – shown on Eden War Memorial

W. RUSSELL – shown on Cobargo War Memorial


Thank you.

Pat Raymond, Research Officer, Bega Valley Genealogy Society”



From: Bryan Fairman
Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2013 6:41 PM
To: Ian Harvey
Subject: Fairman family

Hello Ian

              Could I please ask in your newsletter if any person/persons know any information regarding my Fairman family history they lived in Bega / Candelo / Wolumla / Pambula / Twofold bay in the 1830's onwards.   bryan_pat@bigpond.com


Best Regards        Bryan



From: garth walpole
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2013 7:01 PM

Dear Sir

I wonder if you may be able to help I am researching an aspect of the John Franklin expedition in particular that of Lt. John Irving who died on the above expedition. I am looking to trace Irvings residence and wonder if your organisation may know where Irving may have squatted in the 1840s. it appears he first farmed near Goulbourn then moved. Any information would be helpful.





Current correspondence:


From: Joe Grogan
Sent: Monday, 2 December 2013 10:18 PM
Subject: Family History

Hi Ian

I was wondering if you could help me or provide some direction, as I am new to tracking family history.


I would like trace some information on my wife's family. She has an interesting family history as she grew up in Ireland with an Australian grandmother and I have managed to track some background information to date.


The information to date


My wife was born in Ireland but her Grandmother Annie Nolan was born in Sydney in 1891 and her Mother Mary Nolan was born in Bombala/Monaro  in 1869. From what I can work out she was one of at least 3 children born in the  Eden area to Patrick Nolan and Ellen O Farrell


The other know siblings were

John Joseph Nolan born 1876 Eden

Margaret Nolan born 1873 Eden


Mary Nolan moved to Ireland with her husband and children, however we presume her siblings John and Margaret Nolan stayed in Australia


My wife and I moved to Australia in 1986 from Ireland and would like to see if we can trace any of the off spring from John and Margaret Nolan from the Eden area


Hope this makes sense


Joe & Catherine Grogan


Hi Joe,

Until your email, we were unaware of this family as we had not received any information about them.  Unfortunately therefore, we have no information about any descendants than can assist you.

Regards,   Ian


From: Marian Donnelly
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:16 PM
Dear Ian,
Thank you for your reply. I have attached information I have researched on my great grandmother Honora Hayes so far.  I am still working on research and will keep you posted. Please feel free to share any more information that you may have or query any that I have.
Kind regards,   Marian Donnelly
Hi Marian,
Based on the facts you have provided and my own additional research, the attached file is what I think is the (incomplete) family of Honora Hayes.   I hope this is helpful for you.
Regards,  Ian

Hi Marian,
I have dug a bit deeper and now believe that Leslie and Dulcie Hayes were children of Mary Emily Hayes, 1st child of Honora and most likely raised by their Grandmother either before or after their mother died.  New file attached.
Regards,  Ian

Dear Ian,

Thank  you so much for sending this information on to me. 

I have just come back home from being away and while away drove through Michelago and saw the grave of  Michael Hayes. This morning I was looking up an article on Trove and noticed he had many children and thought I must have had the wrong person. I have now joined up to Monaro Pioneers and have accessed the full picture. What a wealth of information has been compiled for which I am just so grateful.

I am just wondering though with so much family why there was so little written on his headstone even though the headstone looked like it was of very good quality.


I have been looking up the NSW births deaths and marriages site and I wondering why I don’t seem to be able to find many of the items that are cited in the information you have kindly sent me. Even when I seem to put in  the exact dates etc. or even broader details.


Last week I mentioned that I went down to Rookwood cemetery to try to find Honora Hayes’s grave with no luck. I was wondering while walking around why there were so many very old graves in that area. I have now researched and found that she was buried in the same grave as  her daughter Mary Emily who had died a very long time before Honora. 


A correction. My mother Monica Mary Brown ( nee Monaghan) was born in 1918

Thank you once again

Kind regards,  Marian Donnelly



From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES, Sidney Harold I10732 & CRANDELL, Dulcie Cassandra I10733


Proposed Change: Cootes, Sidney Harold (I10732)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10732&tree=MP


Description:    Buried 4 October 1932


Children of Sidney and Dulcie

1.    COOTES, Roma Aileen            Born 20 May 1924, Petersham, Sydney, NSW

2.    COOTES, Sidney Harold         Born 25 July 1926, Inverell, NSW


Notes 1:             The Sydney Morning Herald, Monday 3 October 1932

                                “FOUND DEAD IN TRAIN

Sydney Herbert Cootes, 37, of Inverell, was found dead in a railway carriage at Strathfield yesterday. He was on his way from Inverell to Sydney.”       


Notes 2:           It is believed that Sidney was escorting a prisoner to Sydney.



Attached            DC transcript for Sidney Harold (1932).


Proposed Change: Crandell, Dulcie Cassandra (I10733)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10733&tree=MP


Description:    Buried 13 December 1995   in Rookwood Cemetery, Anglican Section 16, Grave No. 4539

Regards, Gregory


Regards,  Ian



From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES, Maud May I50993


Proposed Change: Cootes, Maud May (I50993)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I50993&tree=MP


Description:    Baptised                        22 January 1890                St Matthias church of England, Bombala

                                Died at                                  Mila Post Office, NSW

                                Cause of Death                 Heart Attack


                                Additional Children

                                4.                            Trevanion, Norman             Born 11 March 1918 Bombala, NSW ref NSW BDM Index 28093/1918

                                                                                                                Baptised 27 July 1918 St Matthias Church of England, Bombala, NSW

Died 10 September 1999 Cooma, NSW. Buried Cooma Cemetery, NSW


Attached            MC and DC transcripts for Maud.


Regards, Gregory


Regards,  Ian



From: Jim & Janelle Jefferson
Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: World War 1 Photo's

Hi Ian,

I see you have my Uncle, Eric George Gatehouse listed in the WW1 Photo’s  ( No. 14)  Uncle Ted was in WW2.

Many Thanks,  Janelle Jefferson

Hi Janelle,

I am sorry but you have me confused, where does your "Uncle Ted" appear in WW1 photos?  We have him as a WW2 Enlistee.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian,

I am sorry, I should have been more clear. I went into the New Data Base with Photo’s and then in the list on the left hand side there was Albums.   I went into that and the last one listed was World War 1 Participants and I think it listed 69 People.  When I scrolled down I saw Eric George Gatehouse  No 14.    I had not noticed the other section which listed WW1 and WW2.   I still think it is amazing the work that you do, that goes into this site.

Regards,  Janelle

Thanks Janelle,

You were quite correct, I did have Eric George Gatehouse's photo in the WW1 album list but I have corrected that now.

Regards,  Ian



From: June Love
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Charles Milton Love (b.1907)





First name(s)
Person 1

Last name
Person 1

First name(s)
Person 2

Last name
Person 2

Purchase Certificate



Charles Milton


Elizabeth Martha







First name(s)

Last name

Father's Name

Mother's Name

Purchase Certificate



Isabelle May


Charles Milton Love

Elizabeth Martha Booth





Hi Ian


Three items pertaining to my branch of Love family:

Marriage of Charles Milton Love to Elizabeth Martha Booth - Copy of Marriage Certificate attached.

Item (Marriage) from Queensland Historical BDM records - copy and pasted above.

Item (Death of Child) from Queensland Historical BDM - copy and pasted above.


If you look at his actual birth record in NSW historical records, I think he may have been a bit short of the mark where accuracy was concerned about his age at the time of his marriage. (Claimed he was 21 - and a bit vague about parents true names/occupations also.)


I'm not sure whether any of his family were aware of this/these events. I am now the oldest living member, as far as we know, of descendents of Percy John Love and Margaret Carmody. However, it appears I was not the first-born grandchild, as had previously been generally accepted.


Thank you for all the good work.

Best regards,  June Love

Thank you June,

Regards,  Ian



From: Peter Bion
Sent: Friday, 22 November 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Mark Rollason contributor

Dear Ian 

A Geoff Todd is shown as the contributor of a photograph of John Thomas Rollason.   I wish to contact Geoff, but the email address shown does not work.   Could you please check your records and provide detail of the correct email address for Geoff. 

Thanks for your assistance 

Helen Bion

Hi Helen,

The address we show is the only one we have, if Geoff Todd has changed his email address then he certainly has not informed us.

Regards,  Ian



From: Kellie  

Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 4:04 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Loney, Spencer (I144966)


Proposed Change: Loney, Spencer (I144966)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I144966&tree=MP


Description: Spencer Frederick LONEY/LOONEY married twice





Divorce papers Spencer Frederick Looney - Emma Elizabeth Looney Start date:

06 Apr 1927 End date: 06 Apr 1927


Title: Divorce papers Emma Elizabeth Looney Spencer Frederick Looney Start

date: 07 Mar 1930 End date: 09 Nov 1931


He died






Regards,   Ian



From: Kellie

Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 3:52 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Quong, Elizabeth (I144972)


Proposed Change: Quong, Elizabeth (I144972)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I144972&tree=MP


Description: This is all wrong.


Sisters death certs do NOT name any Elizabeth they mention Lillian.

Spencers 1971 death notice states loved husband of Lillian and this appears to be her death from nsw bdm

18344/1981  LONEY  LILLIAN ANN  WILLIAM  ELIZA and the marriage



her death notice states

LONEY Lillian Death notice 11AUG1981 Death 85  late of Canterbury "dearly loved wife of Spencer (deceased) loved mother and mother-in-law of Gordon and Vivienne......"




Regards,   Ian



From: Jo Chadwick
Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: Information request - Jabez Southwell

Hi there Ian
I am after any information you may be able to provide about living ancestors of Jabez Southwell who was born in Queanbeyan in 1866 and died in Yass in 1931.
Am taking a 'stab in the dark' that you may have some information that may help me locate some living family members of the gentleman.
I have been given a christening gown, marriage certificate (1871) and some photos of family members with surnames Chadwick (same as mine), Lanchester and Southwell.
It's a bit ironic as I was born in Queanbeyan and lived in Canberra for 26 years so know the area well.
Anyway, it would be nice to hear from you - even if you could just point me in the right direction!
Regards,  Jo Chadwick
Hi Jo,

All the information we have is available in our database which you can search online via our website.  We have no information on current living individuals that could help you unfortunately.

Regards,  Ian



From: wendy deacon

Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2013 2:54 PM

Subject: Comments (Ingram, B.M.)


Comments (Ingram, B.M.): filling in gaps: Blanche Mary Ingram b:6.7.1926

d:28 7 2009 Bega,NSW m:Kenneth William Miners 28.10.1944 Cooma.

Kenneth William Miners b:28.6.1926 d:27.5.2012 Bega.

Ingram Diane Mary b:15.5.1941 d:16.1.1999 m:Colin Samuel Miners date unknown. b:14.6.1933 d:7.2.1990 Bega (H/stone Bega Cem.(believe Colin & Kenneth to be brothers ??.

Doris Elizabeth (Dot)Miners, still alive..she marr. Leo John Steward 1951 Bega. He died 17.5.1972 Bega age 47yrs. H/stone Bega Cem.

wendy deacon

Thank you Wendy,

Regards,  Ian



From: Mary
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2013 1:45 PM

Hi Ian

I am sending you information on the WARREN - MAYBERRY descendants. As with all family trees there may be errors, if you find an error or want to query something please email me I would appreciate the feed back.
When I first started reseaching, some thirty years ago, I was a bit lax on recording source information, I had no idea of the hugh amount of "bits & pieces" I would gather, nor the large number of branches there are when tracing two seperate lines, mine & my husband's.
My information on the Warren started with hand written trees (decendants charts) from several decendants I corresponded with some 20 yrs ago. I try to check & confirm all information I am given & now record all my sources, which include NSW BDM indexes (plus some certificates), Cemetery records, Parish register Index C/E Diocese of Canberra & Goulburn, WW1 & 2 service records, WW2 Nominal roll, Newspaper Articles, Ryerson Index (death & funeral notices) etc...
1. Warren - Mayberry descendants outline,
(including my ID code for each family member, I have used that code to help identify the family member that newpaper articles etc relate to. If you have a problem understanding hoe the code works send me an email & I will send an expanation.)
2. Warren - Mayberry newsparer articles etc
3. Warren - Mayberry related list - Ryerson Index
I am still working on the remaining childern of Henry Hooper Warren & Anna Maslin, a couple of tangle webs I'm hoping to sort out, reeling making me use the old brain a bit.
regards,  Joy Earnshaw

Hi Joy,

WOW!  Thank you so much for the wonderful material.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian

I am still working on checking and updating my WARREN family information. At present I am  researching in early digitalised newspapers.

About 15 years ago I was given the following information, which I think came from a Mayberry family member.

Henry THOMPSON (aka Heinrich SCHUTT) married Emma WARREN (with marriage & death dates)

I have checked & confirmed over the years much of the information I was give and what I now have is


21 Aug 1888 (Parish Register Index C/E Diosese Goulburn & Canberra)


NSW BDM 1949-21276  Braidwood, Henry THOMPSON s/o Henry & Doris Christina

Buried - Braidwood Cemetery

Henry THOMPSON d. 22 Sep 1949 (unknown)

Emma THOMPSON d. 17 Aug 1953  (C/E)


VIC BDM 1863-22869 SAND, Heinrich SCHUTT s/o Hans & Christina


I have just found an obituary for Henry THOMPSON d. 1949 which confirms him as the husband of Emma Warren.


In the Henry Hooper WARREN family tree in the Monaro Pioneers Emma's husband, Henry THOMPSON is linked the the family of William THOMPSON & Mary Jane SPICER, from the information I have found I do not think that is correct.


Attached are copies of THOMPSON newspaper obituaries.


I have gathered quite a few newspaper articles on the Warren family which I am happy to send to you if you would like to have them for your records.

Regards,  Joy Earnshaw

Thanks Joy,

I am very happy to receive any further newspaper articles if they are transcribed like the ones attached to your email.

Regards,  Ian



From: Yvonne Hawkins
Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: were can I get copies records of my g g grandfathers regiments?


Hi my name is Yvonne Hawkins and am wondering were I can get copies of my g grandfathers regiments? 

and how much would they cost?

  1. I have found my g g grandfather on my fathers side on your web site James Smith Enlisted in the Queen`s Own 50th Regiment at Foot as a private. Was promoted to corporal, check out the Monaro Pioeers, found it when reserching Grace Smith
  2. My GG Grandfather on my mothers side is Charles Kelly information on him is a letter I found in my mother things, sent to a Mrs P Slocum dated 9 Oct 92 from a Clen Sargent from 4 Boehm Close Isaas. A.C.T.

the letter says

enclosed are the results of the search of the Muster Rolls and Pay Lists of the 99th Regiment. I am sure that this will give you the whole military career of 1164 Private Charles Kelly in Australia.


The evidence from the various documents can be summarised as fellows:

Hope you can help me as I would love to have copies of their regiments papers.

Yours TrulyYvonne Hawkins 

Hi Yvonne,

I suggest you try the National Library and/or National Archives in Canberra or perhaps the Mitchell Library in Sydney.

Regards,  Ian


From: Judy
Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 8:01 AM
Subject: FW: Fromelles Researcher Wishing to Speak with Families - Facilitating Contact [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]



Guess I'm on their list from AIF contact.



From: Kerr, Jason MAJ
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: Fromelles Researcher Wishing to Speak with Families - Facilitating Contact [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]


Hi All,


I hope you are all well and that life has been treating you well. Some of you will know me already but for those who don't I'm Jason Kerr, the Army's Project Officer for the Fromelles Project. I worked on the Fromelles Project permanently from late 2008 to late 2010 at which time I moved into a part-time role.


I am writing to you to forward a request from a UK based research, Professor Jackie Leach Scully, who is doing some research on Fromelles. Professor Scully would like to talk to interested family members about their Fromelles experience.


This is not an Army backed, authorised or endorsed activity, and is not part of the Fromelles Project -I am merely passing Professor Scully's invite to you in the event that you would like to be involved in her research.


If you would like to contact Jackie please follow her directions in the attached text, otherwise please just delete this email. Please do not nclude me in your response, if you provide one, to Jackie as I am not engaged in her work. 


Regardless, have a wonderful day and my kind regards to you. 



Message for Australian Fromelles Families

Were you involved in the Fromelles Identification Project?

I am a researcher based in the UK and at Sydney Medical School. I would like to speak with anyone

who was involved as a family member in the project to identify the missing of Fromelles, especially

if you considered donating your DNA for matching.

I'd like to interview you about your experiences: how you thought about donating, if donating was

important to you, and what the experience was like. It doesn't matter if you or other members of

your family decided against donation, and it doesn't matter whether or not your ancestor's remains

were identified in the end: my interest is solely in your personal experience overall.

I will be in Australia from mid-November to mid-January, and if you'd be willing to talk with me,

whether face to face, by Skype, or by email, please contact me on Jackie.scully@ncl.ac.uk.

If you know of someone else who might be interested in taking part, please feel free to pass my

details on to them.

Professor Jackie Leach Scully


Policy Ethics and Life Sciences Research Centre Newcastle University, UK http://www.ncl.ac.uk/peals


Centre for Values, Ethics and the Law in Medicine Sydney Medical School University of Sydney NSW 2006, Australia


From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2013 11:13 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES, Mary Ann I180411


Proposed Change: Cootes, Mary Ann (I18041)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I180411&tree=MP



Died at            at home, 2 Glen St, Paddington, Sydney, NSW

                        Buried             14 September 1917 in Waverley Cemetery, Bronte, NSW

                                Cause of death                Myocarditis



Attached            BC and DC Transcript for Mary Ann.


Proposed Change: Florence M Besse (I287897)

                                Died                       1879 Sydney, NSW

                                Buried                   27 November 1879 in Rookwood Cemetery, Sydney, NSW           [Area: AN, Section: F, Grave No.: 106]


Proposed Change: Frederick Marshall Besse (I287898)

                                Died                       1881

                                Buried                   18 April 1881 in Rookwood Cemetery, Sydney, NSW        [Area: AN, Section: F, Grave No.: 106]


Proposed Change: Eva Marguerite Besse (I287900)


Born                     24 April 1886

Died                       1 September 1960          

                                Buried                   9 September 1960 in Rookwood Cemetery, Sydney, NSW             [Area: AN, Section: 16, Grave No.: 4587]

Married                Frederick Dalhousie Ramsay, 30 April 1919 at St Stephens, Newtown, NSW

Attached             MC transcript for Eva and Frederick.


Regards, Gregory


Regards,   Ian



From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2013 7:47 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES, Margaret Elizabeth I10739


Proposed Change: Cootes, Margaret Elizabeth (I10739)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10739&tree=MP


Description:    Buried              12 May 1986 at Rookwood Cemetery [Area AN, Section REML1, Number 000228E]



                                1.                            Millard, Milton Charles 

                                2.                            Millard, Shirley


                                Albert Millard (I20740)

                                Buried                   22 May 1980 at Rookwood Cemetery [Area AN, Section REML1, Number 000228E]


Attached            BC and  MC transcripts for Margaret.


Regards, Gregory


Regards,   Ian



From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2013 6:24 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES, Louis Edward I11323 and Mary McCole I52572


Proposed Change: Cootes, Louis Edward (I11323)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11323&tree=MP




Attached            BC, MC and DC transcripts for Louis .

A jpg of the MI for Louis at Bombala Cemetery

                                Also attached is the MI at Bombala Cemetery for Louis’ wife Mary (I52572), and Mary’s son Kenneth Kite (I290792).


Regards, Gregory


Regards,   Ian



From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES, Henry I84075 & I325022


Proposed Change 1: Cootes, Henry (I84075)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84075&tree=MP




Attached            BC and DC transcripts for Henry Cootes.


Proposed Change 2: Cootes, Henry (I325022)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I325022&tree=MP




Attached            photo of MI Bombala Cemetery.

                                MC transcript of Henry and Joan Martin.

Regards, Gregory


Regards,  Ian



From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2013 9:09 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES,Emily Eliza I10294


Proposed Change: Cootes, Emily Eliza (I10294)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10294&tree=MP


Description:    Died at             St George Hospital, Kogarah, NSW

                                Buried                 18 February 1951 at Woronora General Cemetery, Loc: Anglican, Section3, Position 0950                     


Attached            BC, MC and DC for Emily

Regards, Gregory


Regards,  Ian



From: Betty De La Mare
Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 10:48 PM
Subject: Correction to Walter De La Mare entry


My grandfather is Walter Alexander De La Mare son of John De La Mare and Elizabeth Day - Born in Eden in 1898.
He does not have Blondel in his name .
He died in Camden in 1958.
He had only one wife - Clara Cole and 4 children
    Elizabeth Clare 9/5/1921  -15/5/1921
    Alfred Alexander
    Edward George
    Lily Elaine
Ron De La Mare
Hi Ron,

Thank you for letting us know.

Regards,  Ian



From: Irwin Buckley
Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2013 9:34 PM
Subject: Brayshaw Family Update


  Have attached the updated version of Auburn Harold BRAYSHAW tree:-


1-Auburn Harold BRAYSHAW b. 9 Apr 1893, Bolairo, Adaminaby, New South Wales,

  Australia, d. 25 Jun 1979, Cooma, New South Wales, Australia, bur. 27 Jun 1979, Adaminaby, New

  South Wales, Australia

 +Eliza May SMITH b. 11 May 1896, Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia, c. 9

  Aug 1896, Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia, m. 15 Dec 1917, Gundagai, New

  South Wales, Australia, d. 10 Oct 1959, Cooma, New South Wales, Australia,

  bur. 11 Oct 1959, Adaminaby, New South Wales, Australia, par. John SMITH and

  Catherine Jane WORLDON

|--2-Henry Archibald John BRAYSHAW b. 13 Nov 1918, Darbalara, New South Wales,

|    Australia, d. 22 Sep 2003, Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia, bur. 25 Sep 2003, Goulburn,

|    New South Wales, Australia

|   +Living

|  |--3-Living

|  |--3-Living

|  |--3-Living

|--2-Charles Harold BRAYSHAW b. 1 Jun 1920, Darbalara, New South Wales,

|    Australia, d. 24 Sep 2000, Cooma, New South Wales, Australia, bur. 26 Sep

|    2000, Adaminaby, New South Wales, Australia

     Never Married

|--2-Catherine Olive BRAYSHAW b. 10 Dec 1922, Darbalara, New South Wales,

|    Australia, d. 14 Apr 2006, Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia, bur. 20

|    Apr 2006, South Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia

|   +Jack McCARTHY b. 16 Jun 1909, Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia,

|    m. 11 Mar 1950, Gundagai,  New South Wales, Australia, d. 19 Sep 1996, Gundagai, New South Wales,

|    Australia, bur. Sep 1996, South Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia, par.

|    Richard McCARTHY and Mary Ann HOURN

|  |--3-Living

|  |--3-Living

|  |--3-Living

|  |--3-Raymond James McCARTHY b. 24 Oct 1959, Gundagai, New South Wales,

|  |    Australia, d. 23 Jul 2006, Wagga Wagga, New South Wales, Australia,

|  |    bur. 27 Jul 2006, South Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia

|  |--3-Living

|--2-Isobel Ada Ann BRAYSHAW b. 31 Dec 1924, South Gundagai, New South Wales,

|    Australia, c. 12 Jan 1925, South Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia, d.

|    11 Nov 1976, Adaminaby, New South Wales, Australia, bur. 13 Nov 1976,

|    Adaminaby, New South Wales, Australia

     Never Married

|--2-Florence Pearl BRAYSHAW b. 29 May 1927, South Gundagai, New South Wales,

|    Australia, d. 15 Jan 1929, South Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia

|--2-Beryl Joyce BRAYSHAW b. 31 Jan 1929, South Gundagai, New South Wales,

|    Australia, d. 28 May 2004, Moruya, New South Wales, Australia, bur. 2 Jun

|    2004, Adaminaby, New South Wales, Australia

|   +Rex Fredrick MINERS b. 8 Jul 1928, Cooma, New South Wales, Australia, m.

|    16 Dec 1950, Adaminaby, New South Wales, Australia, d. 16 Jun 1975, Acton,

|    Australian Capital Territory, Australia, bur. 19 Jun 1975, Adaminaby, New

|    South Wales, Australia, par. Frederick William MINERS and Alice Ruby


|  |--3-Dianne Margaret MINERS b. 9 Aug 1951, Cooma, New South Wales,

|  |    Australia, c. 30 Sep 1951, Adaminaby, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1

|  |    Jun 2013, Batemans Bay, New South Wales, Australia.


|  |--3-Living

|  |--3-Living

|  |--3-Living

|--2-James Reginal BRAYSHAW b. 4 Mar 1939, Gundagai, New South Wales,

|    Australia, c. 13 May 1939, South Gundagai, New South Wales, Australia, d.

|    1 Sep 2004, Moss Vale, New South Wales, Australia, crem. 3 Sep 2004,

|    Wollongong, New South Wales, Australia








If you require further info. please contact me.

Kindest Regards,   Irwin.

Thank you Irwin,

Can you tell me if the individuals buried in "Adaminaby Cemetery" were interred in the Old or the New cemetery at Adaminaby?

Regards,  Ian

Ian, All in the new cemetery, Eliza was one of the first there.

Regards, Irwin.


Regards,  Ian



From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES, Ida I11321



Proposed Change: Cootes, Ida (I11321)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11321&tree=MP


Description:    Born                 4 October 1893

                                Died at                  District Hospital Bombala, NSW


                                Additional Children

                                3.                            Stevenson, Joan                              

                                4.                            Stevenson, Robert Porterfield   born 25 April 1922 Bombala, NSW, Died 8 March 1992 Bombala, NSW. Buried Bombala Cemetery


Attached            BC, MC and DC for Ida.

Also attached is a jpg of the MI for Ida and her son John Henry Stevenson (I15596).

                                MI for Robert Porterfield Stevenson

Regards, Gregory

Wow, thanks Gregory.

Regards,  Ian



From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: COOTES, Arthur Henry I11327




Proposed Change: Cootes, Arthur Henry (I11327)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11327&tree=MP


Description:        Children of this marriage

1.    Henry Cootes            Born: 27 February 1925 at Bombala, NSW. Died 14 August 1998 at Bombala, NSW.

Buried: Bombala Cemetery, NSW

Married: MARTIN, Joan Caroline 30 January 1946 at St Matthias Church of England, Bombala, NSW

2.    Reginald Cootes



Regards, Gregory

Thanks Gregory,

Regards,  Ian



From: Irwin Buckley
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 7:03 AM
Subject: WW2 Records


Below is a list of WW2 service men/women of the Brayshaw/Miners clan, that is missing from your data list:-


Brayshaw, Henry Archibald James – d: 22.9.2003 Goulburn.  bur: Goulburn Lawn Cemetery

Brayshaw, Kevin Valentine – d: 4.8.2007 Cooma,  bur: New Adaminaby Cemetery

Brayshaw, Nellie Beatrice – d: 4.7.1977 Kurnell, Sydney,  Crem:  Woronora Cemetery, ashes interred there, Location  -  FF    Section - Rose Garden  7  Position - 0003

Miners, Albert Ernest – d: 8.1.1958 Marrickville, Sydney,  bur: Rookwood Cemetery, Anglican denomination,  Section - 16B, Grave - 1103.


Kind regards,  Irwin.

Thank you Irwin,

I cannot find a WW2 Nominal roll entry for Henry Archibald James Brayshaw but we do have a Henry Archibald John Brayshaw (b13/11/1918 Gundagai) in our database who served in the 3 AUST ARMY TANK Battalion, is this the person you're referring too?

The other folks are listed in our database as WW2 service personnel.  Thank you for the death details which we did not have.

Regards,  Ian

Ian, My mistake – John is correct.

Regards, Irwin



From: Irene Ramsay

Sent: Monday, 4 November 2013 12:41 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Boag, Ethel E. (I51168)


Proposed Change: Boag, Ethel E. (I51168)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I51168&tree=MP


Description: Boag, Ethel Eleanor b 1910 died 25 Mar 2003 Canberra,ACT buried

28 Mar 2003 Woden Catholic Lawn with husband.

married 10 Nov 1934 St Patricks Catholic Church Braddon ACT to Stitt, Assal Murty born 2 July 1904 Adelong NSW died 29 Dec 1961 Canberra ACT buried 30 Dec 1961, Woden Catholic Lawn, occupation Barber, family 1 daughter.

Irene Ramsay


According to the Canberra Cemeteries search facility, Assal Murty Stitt died in 1950 (same day and month as you show)

Regards,  Ian



From: Bradley Lawless

Sent: Sunday, 3 November 2013 10:16 PM

Subject: Lawless

Hi Ian,


I have a death certificate for Mabel Florence Lawless, once married to John Francis Lawless (Queanbeyan).


The death certificate contains the names of her 9 children (including Victor).


I’m not sure on the accuracy of my information as her father is married to Anges on your site and married to Louise Wildman on this certificate.

However there are inconsistencys on the certificate.


I’ve been looking on the roots web site to try and make sense of the information.


Any assistance is greatly appreciated

Cheers,  Bradley Lawless

Hi Bradley,

I would suggest the Death Certificate is more accurate than just relying on the bdm index.  I have found a Mabel F. Johnson born to Clarence F. Johnson and Louisa J. Wildman in 1897 in Sydney, does this DOB correspond with the age shown on the DC?

Would it be possible to have a copy of the DC so that I can extract the names of the other children please?

Regards,  Ian


Thanks Bradley,

Regards,  Ian



From: Tina Forshaw

Sent: Sunday, 3 November 2013 7:21 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Brotherton, George Clyde (I102439)


Proposed Change: Brotherton, George Clyde (I102439)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I102439&tree=MP


Description: My grandfather is missing as one of George's sons.  His name was Les Brotherton.  He was born in Bombala  7/10/1920 and he died 4/1/2004 in Moruya. He married Thora June Skipper (dec), daughter of Myra Skipper and they had 6 children - Neville Leslie, Maxwell George, Raymond John, Sheryl Ann, Gary Clyde (dec), and Jennifer (dec).


Neville is my father and he married Dorothy Atkins.

Regards,  Tina Forshaw

Thank you Tina,

Regards,  Ian



From: Stephen.J Smith

Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2013 7:53 PM

Subject: Subscription to Monaro Pioneers Newsletter


I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


I am keen on finding out any information about the family of Walter Helman (g-g grandfather) and Jane Margaret (nee) Barton who arrived in Australia on 6 May, 1857 from England.  They lived in Braidwood.  Walter was a carpenter.


Regards,  Stephen


From: Lesley Egen
Sent: Saturday, 2 November 2013 2:55 PM
Subject: Re Newsletter No 10

Hi Ian,

Having just read the latest Newsletter it saddens me to ‘hear’ the ‘tone’ in a couple of the letters of correspondence.


I take this opportunity to remind people that the likes of yourself (and the team) are NOT PAID and you all work many hours for the ‘love’ of the job. This site that you all work so hard on is there for ‘us’ to use/refer to and it is a FREE site.

I also wish to remind people that although I ‘know’ you try to verify as much as possible the information you receive, it is essentially, what you are given.   Just like Birth Death & Marriage records they are only as TRUE/ACCURATE as the information supplied to the Government Departments, so IF the informant does not have the facts right neither will the certificate etc.


Please, fellow readers be a little more gracious for the good work done by the MP Team.


Keep up the good work or a lot of us would be lost, most of us appreciate you.

Lesley E

Thank you Lesley,

Regards,  Ian



From: Tanyabill
Sent: 2013-11-02 12:26 PM
Subject: Britten & Haigh Families


David: I wonder if you could insert into the relevant Britten and Haigh sections of Monaro Pioneers website information about the availability of my book: Family Pastimes, Our Exiles to the Fatal Shore (2009). The families were connected initially by the marriage in 1841 of William Britten II and Elizabeth Haigh. In the case of Britten the reference might be placed near the photo of the two I have supplied.

Thanks, and congratulations on your great work.

William (Bill) Streat.  

Hi Bill,

If you want to send me the text you want inserted I am sure we can accommodate your request.

Regards,  Ian

Thanks Ian. Perhaps something like this would suffice:


An account of the early Britten/Haigh families [insert whichever is relevant] is outlined in the book, Family Pastimes, Our Exiles to the Fatal Shore (2009) by William Streat, available in both the National and State libraries or by purchase (tanyabill@optusnet.com.au).


Ian, if this is unsatisfactorily commercial then mention of its availability for sale can be eliminated from the text. All contributors to the book got it free but I can’t afford universal philanthropy.

Regards,  Bill Streat.

Thanks Bill,

Regards,  Ian



From: Phyllis Dowling
Sent: Saturday, 2 November 2013 1:22 PM
Subject: monaro pioneers


I would like to make contact with Brett Frost who is doing Elphick research as I have someone here in Tumut also doing intense research into the Elphick family


Regards   Phyllis Dowling

Thanks Phyllis,

Regards,  Ian



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