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2013 Number 8

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 REQUESTS:

  

JOHN FRANKLIN EXPEDITION

From: garth walpole
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2013 7:01 PM
Subject:

Dear Sir

I wonder if you may be able to help I am researching an aspect of the John Franklin expedition in particular that of Lt. John Irving who died on the above expedition. I am looking to trace Irvings residence and wonder if your organisation may know where Irving may have squatted in the 1840s. it appears he first farmed near Goulbourn then moved. Any information would be helpful.

Garth

 


SNOWY MOUNTAINS MUSEUM

From: Barry and Margaret

Sent: Sunday, 2 June 2013 4:09 PM

Subject: The Snowy Mountains Museum .rtf

 

Hi Ian

Would you please place this on the Monaro Pioneers home page for us please

Thanks Tracey & Margaret

 

The Snowy Mountains Museum at Adaminaby has been purpose built to show the history of the planning & subsequent building of the Snowy Mountains Scheme. The museum covers the period from 1947 to current times.

However it has been recognised that the period prior to this is in danger of being forgotten with the concentration these days being focussed on the Scheme.

With this in mind a section has been allocated to show the history prior to 1947.

At present the display is quite small, what is required are old photos of the Snowy Mountains districts, i.e. Berridale Adaminaby Jindabyne & surrounding districts.  Ideally looking for old buildings, old farming techniques, family records or diary’s anything that that would give an insight into what life was like.

If you have anything of that nature that you think may be of interest please contact Tracey ( asst. Curator)

Phone: 02 64541601   Email: gleneden147@bigpond.com

Ps the museum is also very short on volunteers if you can spare an hour or two occasionally please contact Tracey.

 


ROBINSON FAMILY REUNION

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Current correspondence:

 

SALWAY

From: Patricia McGufficke

Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013 4:20 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Salway, George Robert (I9025)

 

Proposed Change: Salway, George Robert (I9025)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I9025&tree=MP

 

Description: Born 3 Jul 1864 "Gundary", Moruya, NSW, died 2 May 1935, Bega, buried Cobargo Church of England section.

 

George Robert SALWAY left an estate valued at Two thousand one hundred and fifty nine pounds thirteen shillings and six pence, after legacies and debts were finalised.  The valuation report on his property read:  The land is utilized as a Dairy Farm and is comprised of 441 3/4 acres; of this land about 140 acres is very inferior and is mostly fenced out of the Farm, this land is just virgin bush and is thickly infested with blackberries and has practically no value.  The balance of the property is fairly well improved as far as clearing is concerned, the fences are in a bad state of repair, the outbuildings are in a very bad condition and all require to be pulled down and rebuilt; there is also a large quantity of blackberries on the property.  I estimate the true present  Market Value of the whole of the property on a freehold basis including all improvements thereon at One thousand eight hundred and eighty pounds ten shillings.  The wood and iron house had 6 rooms, there were bails and yards; barns, car shed, and dairy.

Livestock consisted of cows, bulls, 3 horses and 6 pigs.

 

George held 34 shares in the Cobargo District co-operative Creamery Butter Co. Ltd. valued at 15 shillings each.  He also had a policy with the AMP Society taken out 18 July 1907

 

George was a member of the Loyal Cobargo Lodge, No. 120 South Coast District which paid Martha a funeral benefit of Forty Five pounds fifteen shillings and six pence.

 

Patricia McGufficke

 

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


TWIGG

From: Patricia McGufficke
Sent: 2013-09-08 5:22 PM
Subject: Newsletter item

 

David, could you please include these in one of the newsletters. 

 

This article appeared in the Bega Gazette on 28 Feb 1883 and refers to my great grandmother, Eliza Twigg, born 1860 in Eden.  However the name of the groom is incorrect in the article.  Eliza actually married William Way Quong on that date and their marriage certificate shows Thomas and Ellen Ah Hee as witnesses.

 

CELESTIAL – Mr Johny Ah Hee, formerly chef de cuisine at Underhill’s Family Hotel, and afterwards with the road encampment of the Messrs Burns, was united “in the bonds,” at St. John’s Church, on Monday Morning, to Miss Eliza Twigg, sister of Mrs. Nicholas Bouquet.  The bride was richly attired in white satin, the nuptial costume having cost over 5Pounds.  We understand that a brilliant soiree dansante was given at the Gardens on Monday night in honor of the occasion.

 

I found information on Underhill’s Family Hotel on the Bega Historical Society website, but can anyone provide information on the Messrs Burns mentioned above or what “the Gardens” in Bega might refer to.

 

There are several other mentions in the Bega Gazette for Tommy Ah Hee and I believe he drowned in a flood in Bega.

 

Eliza’s parents were James Twigg and Caroline Augusta Richards.   James was on the Eden electoral roll for Bega in 1870-71 living at Bateman's Creek, and he and Caroline were living at Pioneers Forest near Candelo when Caroline died in 1871 from ulcers on her back caused by a burn, leaving him with five children aged 12, 9, 6, 4 and 1. 

 

(The Bega Gazette, Thu 24 Apr 1873, p2).

In April 1873, James Twigg charged Felix Darragh of stealing his children.

In Bega Court of Petty Sessions on April 22, 1873, James stated that Darragh had on or about March 1, taken away, or caused to have taken away two girls, with intent to deprive the person having the lawful charge of such children, of their custody.  Darragh stated, "I can't say whether they are legitimate or not.  My daughter took charge of the children when their mother died, two years ago, as an act of charity.  One was taken from the breast, and now he has taken them away". 

  Darragh's reason for taking the children away was that James had no place of residence.

   The Bench stated "The father has a legal right to his children, and if you had no indenture with them, you will be wise to give them up; for if the case goes on, and is proved against you, we have no option but to commit you for trial". Defendant replied "O, I'll give them up at any time.  I am glad to get rid of them so".

   It was agreed that Twigg should go for his children, and receive them into his charge. 

 

Martha Agnes Twigg was the four-year old who told her family that she had been taken in by the Collins family of Candelo. 

 

Would any member of the Collins or Darragh families know anything about this?

 

Pat McGufficke,

 


THOMAS

From: brettafrost

Subject: No Subject

Date: 6 September 2013 8:27:14 PM AEST


samuel dunn thomas1884 lobbs hole-1928 tumut

 

Hi Brett,

Can you please tell me what name Samuel Dunn Thomas used when he enlisted so that I might find his service record?

Regards,  Ian

 


DUNN

From: samuel dunn thomas

Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 9:28 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Dunn, Samuel (I107089)

 

Proposed Change: Dunn, Samuel (I107089)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I107089&tree=MP

 

Description: samuel's real father was a miner from syria,his single mother can't look after him,so catherine and samuel thomas took him in when he was born,samuel thomas died later that year ,so catherine married john eldridge dunn in 1886 

 

samuel dunn thomas

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


O’BRIEN

From: dcolebrook
Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 11:56 AM
Subject: Hi

 

Hello, my name is Denise Colebrook, my maiden name was O'Brien. My family came from the Monaro area and I am trying to locate a book called "The Pioneers of Monaro"

It seens that I was related to the late Joe Bryne of the Ned Kelly Gang.

I am not sure where to start looking as  I am doing my family history. My grandmother was a Bryne. In this book I am the last person named in it.

If you could be any help to me I would be grateful. Hopeing to hear fro you.

Thank you.

Denise Colebrook

Hi Denise,

Your request will appear in our next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers can help you.

Regards,  Ian

 


LYNCH

From: Vince Gattenhof
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 9:54 PM
Subject: Monaro site

Hi Ian,

I just found your very informative web site. My My grand uncle, was James Lynch. He married my grandmothers sister. I have just started to look into his history about 60 to 70 years too late. I have a small diary he kept during his service on the Western Front during WW1. This set my mind asking questions when I found he had stated he had served in the Shanhgai Police Force before he joined the 1st AIF. Then I found your web site and here I am. What can I give you that you do not have and vice versa? I am very impressed with your site. Great stuff. Don't know how you manage it if you have other things to do.

Regards, Vince Gattenhof

Hi Vince,

Thanks for the offer, if, as you peruse our records, you detect any errors or omissions could you please let us know the correct information.   As to the time it takes to manage the site, It helps to have irregular sleep patterns and being a bit crazy also helps.

Regards,  Ian

 


 

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Subject: Men from Snowy River March photos

From:   narm

Date:    Tue, September 3, 2013 7:40 am

To:      nleditor@monaropioneers.com

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Hi

I am writing on behalf of the Delegate Progress Association as we are writing a book covering the Men from Snowy River March to celebrate the

100 year anniversary. A friend has loaned me your book “"War Efforts”, and there is a photo supplied by Judy Richards on pages 4 and 5 of a group of the Snowy River men. Unfortunately in your publication the photo which is very clear,  is in two parts.

As we are keen to have photos of Marchers from other parts of the Monaro, I am wondering if you would be kind enough to email me a copy of that photo.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,  Natalie Armstrong

Hi Ian,

Is this request something you can assist with ?

Cheers,  David

Hi Natalie,

I am little confused by your comments below as we do not have any books published on the "War Efforts".  We do have a website which has a page dedicated to "War Efforts" and I am guessing who ever supplied the material to you has simply printed that webpage.  If you use the following link you can easily extract a copy of the photo you seek.....

 

http://www.monaropioneers.com/war-efforts.htm

 

Regards,  Ian

 


MADIGAN

From: Dan Madigan

Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2013 5:48 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Madigan, Phillip Alfred (I238115)

 

Proposed Change: Madigan, Phillip Alfred (I238115)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I238115&tree=MP

 

Description: Phillip Madigan was my great, great grandfather.  His obituary, which appeared in several papers, said that he died at his daughter's residence, Haberfield. Yet you have in this record that he died at Ashfield.

 

 

From the Goulburn Evening Penny Post:

 

DEATH OF ARALUEN PIONEER.

Mr. Phillip Madigan , of Araluen, died at his daughter's residence, Haberfield, on Tuesday.

Mr. Madigan was one of the pioneers at Ara- luen, and was well versed in all the old- fashioned methods of mining. For thirty-five years he kept the Perseverance Hotel and was much respected in the Valley. He leaves a wife and eight children.

 

Thanks so much for your work on this project.  Fascinating.  Until I came across a copy of the obituary in a bag of old stuff my aunt had left with my father, our family had no idea of any connection with the Monaro district.

 

Regards,  Daniel A Madigan SJ

Hi Daniel,

Thank you for letting us know, I will amend our records.

Regards, Ian

 


GREALY

From: B Bateman
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: New data Grealy family

Hi Ian,

Having found Monaro Pioneers I have discovered that details of my grandmother, Mary Grealy, the eldest daughter of John James  and Elizabeth Allen are missing.

At 82 I am still rather wanting in Knowhow to get the information to you. This  chart for starters.

As you will see I am the 4th child of William Alexander Russell.

Regards, Beth Bateman

Hi Beth,

Thank you for the information, that was very helpful.  Are you able to supply more detailed information like full names and places, particularly for the older generations?

Regards, Ian

 


FREEMAN

From: Leila Muller

Sent: Friday, 30 August 2013 11:22 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Freeman, Lily L. (I125301)

 

Proposed Change: Freeman, Lily L. (I125301)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I125301&tree=MP

 

Description: Lily Lydia FREEMAN was born on the 11 January 1898 and died on the 5th February 1978 at Coolangatta, Queensland, Australia.  Lily was buried at Murwillumbah General Cemetery, New South Wales.  Lily married William Henry (Harry) HIGGINS on the 23 September 1918 at Murwillumbah, New South Wales.

 

Lily was my husbands maternal grandmother.

 

Would you be interested in the information to add to your pioneers index that I have on this family?

 

I have only in recent days discovered this fantastic site.  Thank you for making it available on line for all to access.

 

Regards,  Leila MULLER

Thank you Leila,

Your information was most helpful and we would also welcome any additional information you can contribute.

Regards,  Ian

 


BARNES

From: Richard McMullan  

Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 10:44 PM

Subject: Data Correction - Emily Barnes

Good morning,

 

I wish to correct your data held for my great-grandmother, Emily Barnes.

Your database lists her date of death as 1951, in New Zealand. However, this is incorrect. Emily Barnes married John Henry Louis Nagel in 1882 (not 1885 as listed), after which they lived in Strathbogie & Euroa, before moving to Western Australia in the late 1890s. They had 5 sons, Walter, born in Albury area, and Harry, William, John and Sydney, all born in Euroa. Harry (my grandfather) was killed in action in Belgium in 1917.

John H L Nagel died in 1914, and Emily re-married in 1927 to James Hayes.

She died in Perth on 7th November, 1937 at the age of 72, and is buried in Karrakatta cemetery.

 

Hope this information is of some assistance to you. Your listings have enabled me to gather quite a lot of valuable information on my family

history. If I can be of any further assistance, please contact me and I ill help if I possibly can.

 

Kind regards,  Richard McMullan

Hi Richard,

Thank you for the information.

Regards, Ian

 


LINDSAY

From: Michael / Maureen Jennings
Sent: Monday, 26 August 2013 8:55 PM
Subject: JOHN LINDSAY 1843-1928 (ID I136821)

 

G'day Ian

 

I am looking at the strong possibility that John Lindsay's (ID I136821) wife Margaret White (ID I136825) is sister to Mary White (ID I2655) married Maloney (first) and McKee (second).

 

Before I chase down the NSWBDM for certificates about the Lindsay-White connection, it would be helpful to know whether you have any family contributions/contacts to the Monaro Pioneers database about John Lindsay (ID I136821) or his Lindsay family side.

 

Cheers,  Michael Jennings

Hi Michael,

Unfortunately we have no additional information that might assist you and I have checked Ancestry.Com and there are no trees listed there for either family.

Regards,  Ian

 


From: Sandra Young
Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013 8:17 PM
Subject: Another plaque for the first sighting of the Monaro Plains. This plaque is to be found in the Bredbo recreation park, which is beside the Bredbo Community Hall.

 

Dear Ian,

 

In your last  newsletter, someone was asking about this plaque for Wild, Currie and Ovens.

 

The Monaro Pioneers website have my permission to copy and use my photo as long as it is acknowledged.

 

Regards, Sandra Young

Thank you Sandra, I have added your image to the Explorers page on the MP website.

Regards,  Ian

 


From: Ian Harvey
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013 8:13 PM
To: Australian War Memorial: ISS Information
Subject: The Men from Snowy River March by W.C. Stegeman

 

To whom it may concern,

 

I am the webmaster for the Historical and Genealogical website www.monaropioneers.com , the internet conduit for the Monaro Pioneers Project which is attempting to obtain, consolidate and make available as much information and images as possible about the Eden Monaro region from first European presence onwards.  This website also contains a genealogical database of people and families who either explored, pioneered, settled or temporarily lived in the area as well as family members with any connection thereto.  As part of the development of this database I have tried to identify all the region's individuals who enlisted in the Boer War, WW1 and WW2 so that we can suitably honour all those brave men and women.  More recent conflicts will be added when privacy limitations permit.

 

As part of this effort, I have been trying to identify all the men from the area who served in the 55th Battalion in WW1, many of whom were participants in the Men from Snowy River recruitment march in late 1915.

 

Recently, I was sent by one of our contributors a copy of a document obtained from the AWM about the recruitment march and it would make an excellent reference and a source of valuable detail for researchers using our website.  I have attached a copy of the first 3 of 34 pages for your reference.

 

I seek your permission to add this document to our website so it can be viewed via a link on the following webpage

http://www.monaropioneers.com/war-efforts.htm

 

There will be appropriate recognition of the author and your organisation as the source in accordance with any wording you may specify.

 

Regards,  Ian Harvey

Webmaster

Monaro Pioneers Project

 

From: ISS Information
Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013 4:20 PM
To: Private Records
Subject: FW: The Men from Snowy River March by W.C. Stegeman

Hi Kerrie,

Thank you for responding to this client. When you respond, could you please copy us in your response?

Thank you,  Suzy

 

From: Kerrie Leech
Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 1:42 PM
Cc: ISS Information
Subject: RE: The Men from Snowy River March by W.C. Stegeman

Dear Mr Harvey

 

Thank you for your recent enquiry requesting permission to add a copy of MSS0821 “The Snowy River Marchers, their war effort and afterwards” by W C Stegemann on your website.  Unfortunately, the Australian War Memorial does not own copyright to this material; that was retained at the time of donation by Mr Stegemann.  Therefore, while the Memorial can provide a copy for private research and study purposes, it cannot grant publication permission; that must be obtained from the copyright holder.

 

The last contact details we have for Mr Stegemann, which date from 1992, are:

 

Mr W C Stegemann

18 Brennan Street

Hackett  ACT 2602

 

Should contact at that address prove fruitless, a search of the White Pages in Canberra may be useful in finding other family members.  If you are able to obtain permission, acknowledgement would be appreciated  along the lines of:

Australian War Memorial: MSS0821 – “The Snowy River Marchers, their war effort and afterwards” by W C Stegemann.

 

Best of luck in your endeavour.

Regards,  Kerrie

 


FREEBODY

From: Michelle

Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013 2:20 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Freebody, Albert Edward (I45167)

 

Proposed Change: Freebody, Albert Edward (I45167)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I45167&tree=MP

 

Description: Hi Ian,

I would just like to question the death & burial dates/places for Albert noted on MP.

 

I have found an obituary for Albert [in the Manaro Mercury & Cooma and Bombala Advertiser,dated 11th Nov.1929,] which notes he passed away 4th November 1929 at Cooma District Hospital and was interred in Gegedzerick Cemetery on the 5th Nov 1929.

 

Cheers,  Michelle

Hi Michelle,

Looks like the information supplied to us way back was incorrect, I have verified your facts from the Burial records we show on the MP site and I will modify our database accordingly.

Regards,  Ian

 


TOZER

From: John Tozer
Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2013 9:12 PM
Subject: THE MEN FROM SNOWY RIVER

Hi Ian,

 

I saw your request in the recent Monaro Pioneers Newsletter regarding the names of the “Men From Snowy River” (MFSR) and can help out with the information.

 

I am enclosing a copy of what I believe is a privately published book that is held in the collection of the Australian War Memorial. I purchased a copy while researching the WW1 military records of the Tozer family (specifically Alfred Sydney Albert Tozer). I believe the document is subject to the normal War Memorial rules in respect of copyright so you may not be able to publish it as is. I do not know that the same applies if you were to transcribe from it the names that it contains (Appendix 3). It is an interesting read anyway. I hope the file size isn’t a problem....

 

I also have a photo of the MFSR taken in Cooma at what looks very much like either the Cooma Showground or the stand at Cooma Racecourse. It is also a War Memorial collection item and it can be viewed on-line on the AWM web site in their photographic collection as photo No. 403177. This photo is exceptionally clear for the time and all the faces would be instantly recognisable to anyone who knew the men at the time. Unfortunately, there is no index of the names of the men in the photo.

 

Finally, I have a copy of a very interesting anecdote item from the National Library’s Trove web site. It is an excerpt from the Queanbeyan Age and Queanbeyan Observer: 1915-1927 for Tuesday 31 October 1916, Page 2. It relates to a “Message in a Bottle” story involving some of the MFSR including Alfred Tozer while on the troopship to England. I don’t have the full web address for the item but you should be able to bring it up by searching the Queanbeyan Age for the particular date on Trove.

 

Happy reading!

Regards,  John Tozer

Hi John,

Thanks for the material, I am negotiating with the AWM to gain permission to add the March document to the website.

Regards,  Ian

 


LYNCH

From: Rebecca Potter
Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 10:08 PM
Subject: Information

Hello,

I do hope you'll be able to help me. I am searching my family tree and have been given some information with regards to an obituary which was placed in a Westmeath newspaper in 2002. The only information i have is that the persona name who had died was Owen Lynch and it was at some point in 2002. He was living in London at the time of his death but was originally from the area around Mullingar.

I have tried looking online but have been unable to find anything.

My family member who this part of my tree belongs to had seen the article back in 2002 but unfortunately it was destroyed.

We believe the gentleman Owen Lynch was in his late 80's or early 90's when he died and we also have information he died after being hit by a bus in London.

Unfortunately i am not sure if Owen was spelt like this or a different way like Eoin possibly.

We believe he was born around 1912 but we're not 100% sure.

We also believe he had a Sister who was either married or partnered to a local policeman around 1941-1942.

My Lynch then left Mullingar for London in 1941-1942.

Any information you could provide would be much appreciated.

Kind Regards,  Rebecca

Hi Rebecca,

I am not sure why you think I can help your search, the project I manage is about the area located in southern New South Wales, Australia. Whilst we do have people in our database who originally came from Mullingar Ireland, we have no information about anyone called Owen Lynch who died in London in 2002.  

Regards,  Ian

 


PARKER

From: Michelle  

Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013 6:53 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Parker, Violet Evelyn (I60326)

 

Proposed Change: Parker, Violet Evelyn (I60326)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I60326&tree=MP

 

Description: Hi Ian,

Violet married William Francis Allan 1941 at Bega.

William died 29 Feb 2001 at Corrimal NSW.

Violet died 18 Aug 2012 at Bega.

 

Cheers,  Michelle

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


PARKER

From: Michelle  

Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013 6:29 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Parker, Elsie Doreen (I60322)

 

Proposed Change: Parker, Elsie Doreen (I60322)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I60322&tree=MP

 

Description: Hi Ian

Elsie died 4 May 1997.

Michael died 15 May 1980.

Both interred Bega General Cemetery

 

Cheers,  Michelle

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


PARKER

From: Michelle

Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013 6:36 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Parker, Alice Mead (I60325)

 

Proposed Change: Parker, Alice Mead (I60325)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I60325&tree=MP

 

Description: Hi Ian

Alice MELBA Parker married John Finley Rixon 1933 (marriage reg.Bega) Alice died 10 Jan 1985 and John died 17 Aug 1973.

Both interred at Bega Presbyterian section.

 

Cheers,  Michelle

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


ROBERTSON

From: Sylvia Aldred
Sent: 2013-08-18 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: MONARO PIONEERS NEWSLETTER - 2013 Number 7

 

Hi David,

 

My mother Anne Cecilia Roberson (formerly Jones, nee Wallace) oldest daughter of William Claude Wallace and Melva Suthern passed away on Monday 12th Aug. 2013 in Goulburn.

 

Her funeral will be on Thurs. 22nd Aug. at 11.30am - St Saviours, Bourke St. Goulburn - details will be advertised in the Goulburn Evening Post.

 

Its probably going to be too late and most of her friends have passed but there may be someone who receives the newsletter who will be interested.

 

Sylvia Aldred

 


O’MARA

From: O'MARA Wayne
Sent: 2013-08-12 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: MONARO PIONEERS NEWSLETTER - 2013 Number 7

Hi David

 

I am a descendent via my paternal grandmother Sabina (nee Ingram) O'Mara of Thomas Austin and Esther Murphy

 

I note that their son George Austin, Sabina's grandfather, was born in Sydney in 1817. Is there any way of checking if either Thomas or Esther were descendents of first fleeter?

 

regards

Hi Ian,

Do you have any advice for Wayne on his query ??

Thanks,  David

Hi Wayne,

The following site has a register of First Fleet Convicts and neither Thomas Austin nor Esther Murphy are listed.  They could well have changed their names of course.

 

http://firstfleet.thruhere.net/

 

Regards,  Ian

 


From: Sandra Young
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 6:02 PM
Subject: RE: DVD

Dear Ian,

 

Thanks for letting me know that the DVD arrived.

 

Good luck finding the time to go through it, as it is quite lenghty.

 

Eventually, please let me know if it is going to be helpful to researchers.

 

Regards, Sandra

Hi Sandra,

I have been able to add most of your material to our website and you will find the Yass Red Cross and Memorials link on the following webpage … http://www.monaropioneers.com/war-efforts.htm

Thank you for the support.

Regards,  Ian

 


BRITTEN

From: Bruce Coleman
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013 1:34 PM
Subject: William Britten

Ian

 

There is no wonder that some names are so elusive when searching for Family History.

 

Because of some confusion, I have compiled the attached matrix in an effort to obtain clarity.

 

 All names supplied correspond to BDM's.

 

Hope it can be of some use to you.

 

Regards,  Bruce Coleman

 

Hi Bruce,

Therein lies the greatest challenge when using Computer based software - which variant to use.  For best results when searching I tend to stick to the most common variant and trust the users of our database have the common sense to realise there could be different spellings, not to mention transcription errors when they do their validation checks.

Regards,  Ian

Ian

 

I can understand the dilemmas caused by name variations, and appreciate how hard it must be to compile a database covering such a large time frame and so many paople.

 

Will now return to the Coleman side of the family, where so far, I have found no variations, even though I know they exist.

 

Regards,  Bruce

 


MOORE

From: Kellie  

Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013 10:04 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Moore, Elizabeth (I41349)

 

Proposed Change: Moore, Elizabeth (I41349)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I41349&tree=MP

 

Description: V1852443 71/1852      MOORE         ELIZABETH    EDWARD      BRIDGET

 

 

father:          Edward Moore

mother:        Bridget Harrington

Name  Elizabeth Moore

Gender          Female

Christening Date       19 Jan 1854

Christening Place      Queanbeyan, Murray, Australia

 

Kellie

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


MOORE

From: Kellie  

Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013 10:03 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Moore, Annie (I1474)

 

Proposed Change: Moore, Annie (I1474)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I1474&tree=MP

 

Description: dates are out

 

V18541985 71/1854  MOORE         ANN   EDWARD      BRIDGET

 

father:          Edward Moore

mother:        Bridget Hartegan

Name  Ann Moore

Gender          Female

Christening Date       03 Oct 1854

Christening Place      Queanbeyan, Murray, Australia

 

Kellie

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


PARBERY/LETT

From: Louise Sewell
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers Project

 

Re the Monaro Pioneers Project database.

 

I was thrilled to find this site recently. Someone has done some amazing work and I appreciate everything that has gone into producing this database.

 

My grandmother was Elsie Alice Lett (nee Parbery). Daughter of Richard Parbery and Emily Caroline Jaggers.

 

Your site does say that if errors are found to advise them and I'm not sure if this is the correct way to do this but:

 

Elsie Alice Parbery married Edward John Lett on 15/2/1921 which is correct on your database but our Edward John Lett was born in Cheltenham, England on 14/11/1882 (not in Mudgee in 1871) and died on 20/4/1944 in Ryde, Sydney. His parents were William Lett 1849-1932 and Harriett Simmons 1858-1934). I have a copy of his birth certificate.

 

Elsie and Edward Lett had two children - my mother, Lola Lloyd 1921-2013 and John Edward Lett 1923-2002.

 

Please advise me if I should forward this information to someone else.

 

Thank you,  Louise Sewell

Hi Louise,

Thank you for letting us know, I will amend our records accordingly.

Regards,  Ian

 


HOLZHAUSER

Proposed Change: Wilton, Dorothy Lily (I92637)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I92637&tree=MP

 

Description: Hi Ian

 

I came across Dorothy's Death/Funeral notice which is currently in the 'Narooma News' paper if your interested in having a look.

 

Regards,  Cathrine

Do you have a transcript?

Regards,  Ian

HOLZHAUSER, DOROTHY (Dot) LILY

11.6.1912 ~ 25.7.2013

Late of Murrah Street, Bermagui.

Daughter of the late Oz & Mary Wilton.

Beloved wife of Edgar (deceased)

Loving mother and mother-in-law of Bert (deceased) & Barbara (Rockhampton), Jean (deceased) & Roy Solis (Rockhampton), Denise & Ron McGlashan (Bermagui). Devoted grandmother of her 9 grandchildren and her many great and great, great grandchildren.

Dear sister of Dick, Rene, Ethel, Jim and Ken (all deceased), Rita, John and Ena.

The funeral for the late Mrs Dot Holzhauser will be held in the Bermagui Anglican Church at 2.00p.m., Friday 2nd August 2013 and burial will follow in the Bermagui Cemetery.

JOHN R WHYMAN FUNERAL SERVICES

BEGA 6492 4111

 

ANNOUNCEMENTS : FUNERAL NOTICES

31/07/2013 Narooma News

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


CLEAR

From: Kellie
Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Newsletter

 

CLEAR

From: Patricia McGufficke

Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 3:23 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Clear, William (I8223)

 

Not sure if it is just transcription errors on behalf of Patricia or whether the Freeman's Journal is incorrect but...

 

If William was born in 1828 and arrived 1843,,he was only 15 years old. ((I doubt he was running a bakery in Capetown for 10years previous))

 

The youngest child (when his wife died 1874) appears to be 3 years old,,,,not 3 months old.

 

Possible arrival

CLEAR

W

26

OCT

1853

CONSERVATIVE

 Kellie

Interesting, but I am not in a position to comment other than to say most of those type of articles were based on recollections, right or wrong.

Regards,  Ian

 


From: "Max Rowe"

Subject: Thomas Thompson of Jindabyne

Date: 11 August 2013 7:05:37 PM AEST

 

This message is for Ian Harvey

 

Would you please contact Mr James Hylton Tuckett of New Zealand re Thompson in the latest newsletter.There are numerous versions of the spelling

 

Like his forebars, my great grand father  (Edward Rowe) worked at "Bullembalong "near Cooma NSW Australia

 

I have a photograph of the old property, which I can email to him if he would like it

 

There are a number of spelling versions of Bullembalong.

 

Regards Max Rowe

Canberra 

11 August 2013

Hi Max,

The email address is … xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Regards,  Ian

 


SIMS

From: Blyton, Ian and Rae
Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013 5:18 PM
Subject: elizabeth sims

 

hi Ian

Elizabeth Sims  and George were my GG Grand parents on my mothers side of the family.On Dads side when my G Grand father  William Blyton died his 2nd wife Susan[ NE] Jackson married Widower George Sims.I don't know of any photos of Elizabeth but I have a cousin who did a bit of research on the Sims family.

Its OK for you to give my Email Address to Paul Dakin and I may have some information to assist him.

Regards  Ian

Thank you Ian,

Regards,  Ian

 


LLOYD

From: Margaret Hartnell

Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2013 10:04 PM

Subject: Comments (Login)

 

Comments (Login): Hi Ian

Could you please change my email.   I supplied info on George Alfred Lloyd "Mowhawk Station" Nimmitybelle Enjoy reading your newsletters keep up the good work & thank You Both

 

Margaret Hartnell

Thank you Margaret,

Regards,  Ian

 


COOK

From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2013 4:46 PM
Subject: Newsletter

 

Hi Ian,

In regards to

COOK

From: Will Daehler 
Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 12:29 AM
Subject: RE: Proposed Change: Cook, Thomas Barber (I201374)

George Frederick was born in 8 Oct, 1879. He died in 1959 and is buried in Collector, NSW.

 

George died 1957 (not 1959) in QLD

 

1957/B21859

George Frederick

Cook

Thomas

Annie

SMH

COOK

George Frederick

Death notice

03SEP1957

Death

 

at Brisbane, late of Goulburn and Majors Creek

 

Death Notice SMH 11 Sep 1957

 

"COOK George Frederick- September 3, 1957 (suddenly), at Brisbane (late of Goulburn and Majors Creek) dearly loved husband of the late Mary Elizabeth, loved father of Jack, Thomas (deceased) Joan, Moya and William. Privately cremated"

 

Kellie

Thank you Kellie,

Regards,  Ian

 


FAIRMAN/POWER

From: Bryan Fairman
Sent: 2013-08-10 4:13 PM
Subject: fairman/power families

 

Hello David

                   Just wanting to know if you can put into next newsletter or later

If anyone knows anything about Fairman and Power families my ancestor Charles married Ellen [ Anna] Power 

in Sydney about 1841 , she was from Eden NSW , they lived in Twofold Bay ,Wolumla ,and many years in Bega 

around 1845 .Later he was buried at Candelo 1889 , she was buried Bega 1870

I am wanting to find out if any relatives are still in / around any of these towns .

Best Regards         Bryan Fairman     

 


POWER

From: Brendan Power

Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2013 2:26 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Power, Richard A. V. (I45539)

 

Proposed Change: Power, Richard A. V. (I45539)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I45539&tree=MP

 

Description: Hi there,

 

I have some history with regards to Richard A. V. Power.  Richard (b. 1905 d. 1951) married Olive May Elliott (b. 1904 d.1984) in 1924 at Cooma.  At some point they made there way to Canberra.  Richard and Olive had 2 children, Richard Noel Power and Georgina Mavis Power.  Richard Noel Power had 2 children, Sue Ellen Power and Mark Vincent Power.  Mark Vincent Power had 2 children, Brendan Karl Power  and Matthew Mark Power.

 

I hope this helps with your records in some way.  I'm happy to provide any other details upon request.

 

Thank you for your efforts with this website, it has provided us with the key to unlocking our family history.

 

Brendan Power.

Hi Brendan,

Thank you for the information.  Did Richard (Vincent Augstine) enlist in WW2?

Regards,  Ian

 

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