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Monaro Pioneers Newsletter
2014 Number 6
ANNOUNCEMENT:
Hi Folks,
After due consideration I have decided to attend the Sapphire Coast Family History Expo in Merimbula (see below). I want to use the opportunity to hopefully make some connections with local History Societies and to gauge the level of interest in and understanding of the MP project. If I can contribute to the knowledge and understanding of anyone attending then the effort will be worthwhile.
I also want to explore the long term "home" for the MP database. If you have any thoughts on this please let me know.
I would like to thank those of you who very kindly sent your thoughts and suggestions and in some cases offers of financial assistance, I am grateful for the offers but don't need any donations in order to participate in this event.
Importantly to me, I would like to meet all of you who might be planning to attend and have a chat. If you have not made up your mind yet, I would still like to have a chat.
Regards, Ian Harvey
REQUESTS:
CAMPBELL
From: Judith Quinn
Sent: Friday, 25 April 2014 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: Proposed Change: Good, Mary Agnes (I269553)
Hello Ian
Would the below be appropriate for the Newsletter? If so, I would appreciate you forwarding it to the editor.
My great grandfather, Robert Allendale Campbell (1862-1939), and Mary Agnes Campbell (Wallace?) (d. 1936) had 16 children together in the Goulburn/Queanbeyan area. In an article on his death in the Burrowa News he was described as an old identity of Queanbeyan . I would greatly appreciate any information/leads/contact related to this family and especially Mary Agnes who remains historically invisible to me. Judith Quinn cwquinn@optusnet.com.au
WARE
From: Robyn
Sent: 2014-01-01 12:17 PM
Subject: Ernest Henry Ware
Hello, I am trying to research Ernest Ware who was KIA on the 11/11/1918,the telegram was received around the 23/11/1918 by his family. My mother Jean gave a photo of Ernest and others dressed in uniform to me years ago but all efforts to trace his army history have yielded nothing. My mothers mother was Lillian Veronica Ware Ernest Henry Wares sister. The photo is very clear for the era and its age. I was told at the Canberra War Memorial they were dressed in New Zealand uniform but there are no NZ war records of Ernest Ware, yet his name is on the Adaminaby Cenotaph, I keep hitting brick walls ,so if someone knows more I would love to hear from them.
Kind regards, Greg Tozer,0248724750AH or 0428219285 or this email address.
ROBINSON FAMILY REUNION
Current
correspondence:
LATIMER/ GEE
From:
petercafxt
Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2014 8:35 PM
Subject: Catherine Ellen Latimer (Gee)- Nathanial Napier and Thomas Gee (sons
of James and Janet)
ID: I217198
Name: Catherine Ellen GEE
Given Name: Catherine Ellen
Surname: Gee
Sex: F
Birth: 13 Jul 1856 in Kiora, NSW 1
Death: 1942 in New Zealand 2
date of death 31 May 1942, Ponsonby, New Zealand
Nathaniel Napier Gee D: I142272 & Thomnas Gee ID: I272552
See attached jpg's. It looks like Nathaniel suffered brain damage falling from a horse and perhaps was the cause of his later behaviour.
Nathaniel was commited to an insane asylum and must have died there. I had the newpaper article. When I find it I will send a copy/
Peter
Thanks Peter,
Regards, Ian
BLUNDELL
From: Kellie
Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2014 9:32 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Blundell, Susan (I124948)
Proposed Change: Blundell, Susan (I124948)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I124948&tree=MP
Description: birth: 4 December 1844
christening: 7 October 1849 St. John the Baptist, Canberra, New South Wales, Australia
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BLUNDELL
From: Kellie
Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2014 9:28 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Blundell, Joseph (I110649)
Proposed Change: Blundell, Joseph (I110649)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I110649&tree=MP
Description: Joseph was a convict charged with assault and sentenced to Life.
He was listed as married with no children, a farmers man and arrived in 1826 (not 1825)
Date of Conviction: 2 Jan 1826
Date of Arrival: 13 Sep 1826
He received a Condition Pardon 1841 in Sydney.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
CALDWELL
From:
petercafxt
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 10:28 PM
Subject: Agnes Gee (Caldwell)
· ID: I272554
· Name: Agnes CALDWELL
· Given Name: Agnes
· Surname: Caldwell
· Sex: F
· Death: 1916 in Glebe, NSW 1
·
·
· Here is some more info - I think the spelling of Anindale may be incorrect, but it's what I have.
·
· Born 1851 - Anindale Illawarra, NSW
·
· Peter Campbell
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
GEE
From:
petercafxt
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 10:07 PM
Subject: James Gee
Hello
Researching my mothers, fathers line and came up with a small amount of info for you
In regard to James Gee -
This info is from your site
ID: I41643
· Name: James GEE
· Given Name: James
· Surname: Gee
· Sex: M
· Birth: 1817 in Eckington, Derby, England
· Death: 8 Sep 1865 in Rosevale Tarragana, Bega, NSW 1
· Burial: Bega Cemetery, NSW
·
· The extra info I have is
· Baptism: 14 May 1820, Eckington, Derbyshire, England
· Immigration: 18 Feb 1833 to Australia on the Camden
· Death: as above - cause of death: Hepatitis
·
· If this is the sort of info you collect, please advise.
·
· Peter Campbell
Hi Peter,
Thank you, yes that sort information is included in our records where ever possible.
Regards, Ian
ANDREE
On 01/07/2014 20:51, Kellie wrote:
Proposed Change: Andree P. M. (I28841)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I28841&tree=MP
Description: NSW BDM has stuffed this up
25485/1902 BLUNDELL ANDREE P M PHOEBE A QUEANBEYAN
This is supposed to be Audrey E
marriage
6513/1921 BUSH DONALD E BLUNDELL AUDREY E P M TUMUT
Audrey (Mrs D BUSH) is the last child of Phoebe's mentioned on
Phoebe's 1943 death notice.
Kellie
Thanks Kellie,
Regards, Ian
GOODALL
From:
glenda goodall
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: Correction info: John Goodall sp. of Annie Maria Weaver
Hello,
Your RootsWeb listing:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=monaropioneers&id=I29673
Re my 2nd great grandfather John Goodall husband of Annie Maria Weaver aka
Clark(e). I now have his Victorian Death Certificate #3225 which confirms that
he died 1870 Victoria aged 54, parent John and Frances. I haven't yet scanned
the Certificate, but in the meantime here's the details below:
Death:
Vic BDM Death Certificate Number 3225
Name & Profession: John Goodall, Butcher.
When and where died: 28th May 1870, Avenel.
Sex & Age: Male, 54.
Cause of Death: Dysentry.
Father, Mother and Profession: John Goodall, Butcher. Frances Goodall.
Informant: Anne Maria Goodall, Wife, Avenel.
Deputy Register, Date and where Registered: William Campion, 28th May 1870
Avenel.
When and where buried. Undertaker: 29th May 1870, Avenel. Francis Fosdion.
Name and Religion of Minister: Mr E Lewis, Wesleyan.
Where born and how long in Australian Colonies: Nottingham England. 3 years in
N.S.W. 13 years in Victoria.
If deceased was married. Where, when, age, and to whom: Yass N.S.W. 1855. 39.
Anne Maria Weavor.
If deceased was married. Issue: John 12 years, James deceased, Leopold 7 years,
Albert 4 years.
====
P.S. Good job on the Monaro Pioneers website and RootsWeb, very impressive :)
Cheers,
Glenda Goodall
Thank you Glenda,
Regards, Ian
MARGOSCHIS
From:
Claire Buchtmann
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 10:48 AM
Subject: Alexander Margoschis
Hi Ian
My name is Claire Buchtmann and I have been given a photo album which has alot of old photos in it from the late 1800s, early 1900s. My Aunt found it at a tip years ago - which I believe was in Queanbeyan.
She thought I might like the album as it was so old...although really it's of no use to me, and being a very amateur geneologist myself I know if it were my family photos I would want to be reunited with them.
I did a search on Ancestry.com and saw the records entered by your group for Alexander and thought I would contact you if you know of any relations of his that I could possibly contact (or they can contact me) as I would really like to reunite these photos with their rightful owner.
Kind regards, Claire Buchtmann
Hi Claire,
We can put your email in our next newsletter and that find a contact among our readers.
Regards, Ian
From:
Julie Watt
Sent: Monday, 30 June 2014 9:30 PM
Subject: WW1 contributions
Hello Ian
I was excited to read about the WW1 collection you have on the Monaro Pioneers website in the recent newsletter.
I have attached a few images/photos of some who served in WW1 from my family tree - I will send an email to all those on my family list and suggest they support your database too - in the meantime I hope the following is of benefit to the database
List of attachments & my relationship to those who served
1 & 2 - Millyn, Roy Bernard - cemetery certificate & WW1 service record
Attestation Paper (no WW1 photo as yet) - My 1st Cousin 2 x removed
3 & 4 - March, Alfred Andrew (Jnr) b 1891 Attestation paper & HMAT Kabinga - My 1st Cousin 3 x removed
5, 6, 7 & 8 - March, Frederick Hamilton photo WW1 Lighthorse from book by Peter Sekuless, photo from AWM in WW1 uniform, Headstone photo from Khartoum (photo taken for me by a historian visit to cemetery) Fred was first buried in the Christian cemetery, Khartoum. At the insistence of the R.S.L., Fred was reburied on 10 December 1977 according to a soldiers resting place in the official Commonwealth War Graves Commision cemetery at Khartoum. Image of SS Hawkes Bay he sailed on WW1 - My 1st Cousin 2 x removed
9, 10 & 11 - March, Leo Charles - photo in unifrom WW1 - Attestation Paper - HMAT A34 Persic - My 2nd Cousin 2 x removed
12, 13 & 14 - Miller, Anthony Jacob (1st husband of Alma Constance KERSHAW) b 19 Sep 1876 Forest Lodge, Goulburn -
My Great Grandad
Photos - in uniform WW1 - Attestation Paper - HMAT A20 Hororata
First World War Embarkation Roll - Anthony Miller
Service number: 3385
Rank: Private
POE Goulburn NSW:
NOK Alma Miller.
Roll title: 30 Infantry Battalion - 7 to 12 Reinforcements (May-November 1916)
Conflict: First World War, 1914-1918
Date of embarkation: 2 May 1916
Place of embarkation: Sydney
Ship embarked on: HMAT Hororata
Ship number: A20
Discharged on 11 November 1918 Occupation Railway Fettler, Resided at 186 Cecily
St Leichardt NSW
I will send more photos of others in my family tree ASAP
Kind Regards
Julie Watt
Deepwater NSW 2371
A Long March to Australia
Thomas James March & Charlotte Thomeson Plummer
18 May 1838
Thank you Julie,
Regards, Ian
LIVINGSTON
On 28/06/2014 22:05, Chris Livingstone wrote:
Proposed Change: Livingstone, Daniel (I128836)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I128836&tree=MP
Description: Do you want his parent details? He's a Jnr.
His father, Daniel(Snr)was born 01 Mar 1827 at Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland, died on 01 Oct 1885 at Moonee Ponds, Victoria, Australia
during his business visit as his residence is in Sydney and his mother, Beattrice C JOHNSTON was born on 05 Jul 1831 at Aberdeen,
Aberdeenshire, SCOTLAND and died on 21 Apr 1888 at 11 Darlington Road, Darlington, New South Wales, Australia.
Daniel (Snr) Father, my GGGF is William and his wife is Caroline Walker is far I can as to Brickwall.
Daniel (Snr) immigrated himself to Port Phillip, Melbourne on 12 Aug 1852 on HMS Moselle.
Do you need more information as I have more re. Children, marriage etc.
Regards Chris
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
LIVINGSTON
On 28/06/2014 21:51, Chris Livingstone wrote:
Proposed Change: Livingstone, Daniel (I128836)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I128836&tree=MP
Description: Hello, he's my GGF.
He was born on 20 Oct 1862 at 15 Queensbery Street, East Carlton, Victoria, Australia and died on 10 Dec 1944 at State Hospital and
Home, Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia.
He was buried on 12 Dec 1944.
Death and Funeral Notice and Grave Photo is available from me.
Chris Livingstone
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
LAWSON
On 28/06/2014 20:24, alfred01 wrote:
My name is Robert Lawson ,born in tumut. came across reference to
edwin e lawson adelong, their was a younger son born allan lyle lawson
,my father who left home at an early age an worked around talbingo and
the mountains before settling in tumut regards Robert
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
WILLIAMS
From:
jim lofts
Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2014 2:02 AM
Subject: David williams - Mary Ann Ward
Hi,
David Williams b 22 Aug 1836 Queanbeyan, NSW, Australia ( Monaro Pioneers website )
Died 11 Feb 1908 Ingebyra, near Jindabyne, NSW, Australia buried at Moonbah (trove 17/2/1908 )- The Manaro Mercury, and Cooma and Bombala Advertiser (NSW : 1862 - 1931) Monday 17 February 1908 p 2 Article
Mary Ann Ward b 12 Apr 1836 Airds near Campbelltown, NSW, Australia
Died 22/12/1923 ( Monaro Pioneers website )
Hope this helps. As trove gets corrected more info comes out, keep up the good work
Regards jim
Thanks Jim,
Regards, Ian
TYRIE
On 22/06/2014 01:26, John McInerney wrote:
Proposed Change: Tyrie, Eric (I45804)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I45804&tree=MP
Description: Born: 28 Apr 1918
Died: 18 Sep 1974
Married: Olive Anne Oldfield
John McInerney
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
TYRIE
On 22/06/2014 01:01, John McInerney wrote:
Proposed Change: Tyrie, Emily Eileen (I113063)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I113063&tree=MP
Description: Born: 23 Jun 1898
Died: 23 Nov 1985
Married1: Alexander William Gibbs - 8 Sep 1915 - 'Burra' near Queanbeyan, NSW
Married2: Arthur James Moore - 30 Jan 1937
John McInerney
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
GIBBS
On 22/06/2014 00:57, John McInerney wrote:
Proposed Change: Gibbs, Thelma Jean (I113495)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I113495&tree=MP
Description: Born: 25 Jan 1921
Died: 18 Aug 2003
John McInerney
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
READ
On 22/06/2014 00:55, John McInerney wrote:
Proposed Change: Read, Charles Herbert Mervyn (I113497)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I113497&tree=MP
Description: Died: 23 Oct 1967
Married: 3 Feb 1940 - Thelma "Jean" Gibbs - St. Nicholas' Church, Goulburn, NSW
John McInerney
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
READ
On 22/06/2014 00:48, John McInerney wrote:
Proposed Change: Read, Ethel Edna E. (I124890)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I124890&tree=MP
Description: Born: 1905
Died: 19 Mar 1987 'Morling Lodge', Canberra
Married: Charles Wilfred Woods
John McInerney
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
READ
On 22/06/2014 00:46, John McInerney wrote:
Proposed Change: Read, Florence Vivienne (I124889)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I124889&tree=MP
Description: Born: 27 Mar 1903
Married: Harold Edward Woods
John McInerney
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
READ
On 22/06/2014 00:37, John McInerney wrote:
Proposed Change: Read, George Houston (I124886)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I124886&tree=MP
Description: Born: 24 Jan 1899 Naas Valley
Died: 20 Jun 1968
Married: 16 Jun 1924 All Saint's Church, Marulan, NSW Bertha Irene Jeffery
Born: 12 Jan 1907
Died: 19 Feb 1986
John McInerney
Thank you John,
Regards, Ian
MURRAY
From:
John Lonie
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: Odillo William Murray
Dear
Ian,
I have come across your name via a Monaro Pioneers site and hope you do not mind
my question.
I am interested in Odillo William Murray, born 1897 in Cooma to Michael John Murray and Bridget, nee Burke, Catholic, blacksmith, who served in the 1st AIF was later a linesman with the PMG and who married my mother's mother Rita Gladys Baxter in Sydney in 1937
I am interested to know if you have a death date for him and even a photograph. Or could point me in the direction that might deliver me this information.
Thanks so much
Yours sincerely, John Lonie
Hi John,
The only information we have is what is displayed on our website. According to the Electoral Rolls available on-line Odillo and his wife were living in Young in 1980.
Regards, Ian
BENNETT
From:
Mark Greacen
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2014 9:08 AM
Subject: Emily Bennett, b.1850 Bombala, daughter of John Edward and
Eleanor
I would draw your attention to these death notices of her husband and herself, indicating the need for alterations and additions.
SMH 6 Dec 1918
MEARES. — December 5, 1918, at Katoomba, Alexander Spark Devenish Meares, dearly loved husband of Emily Meares, late of Murwillumbah, aged 79 years.
SMH 29 Jul 1935
DEVENISH MEARES.—July 25, at her residence 241 Bondi-road, Bondi, Emily, widow of the late A. S. Devenish Meares, in her 86th year.
Cheers, Mark Greacen
Hi Mark,
Thank you for the information.
Regards, Ian
McGREGOR
From: Greta Jones
Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2014 10:40 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Family: McGregor, James Henry/Martindale, Mary Lillian (F8514)
Proposed Change: Family: McGregor, James Henry/Martindale, Mary Lillian
(F8514)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F8514&tree=MP
Description: Sidney McGregor Born 2/10/1920 married Vera Davis. Will find death date.
Edna McGregor born 10/1/1923 Married Kenneth Galvin.
Joyce McGregor born 12/9/1925 Married Clement Privett Michael McGregor born
!2/9/1925 Twin to Joyce married Helen Hoffstead.
Raymond McGregor born C1927 died ??? married Alice Maude Mosley daughter of Thomas Henry and Elizabeth Lillian Mosley.
Ian, I have taken these details from Christine McGregor's Scotland to Australia book, I have contact with family where I can get further details.
Regards Greta
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
ROGERS
On 16/06/2014 23:54, Bob Friederich wrote:
> Proposed Change: Rogers, Thomas (I95073)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link:
> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I95073&tree=MP
>
> Description: Hi Ian,
>
> Thomas Rogers was born in Hobart, not NSW. His date of birth was 7 April 1855. He died in Bombala, in May 1937, I don't have the exact
> date. An article about his death was published in the Delegate Argus 27 May 1937, saying he had died "last week".
>
> Bob
Thank you Bob,
Thomas died May 5, 1937 and was buried in the Bombala Cemetery according to the Bombala Cemetery records I have. His children William "John" and Maria are also buried in Bombala.
Regards, Ian
ROGERS
On 16/06/2014 23:42, Bob Friederich wrote:
> Proposed Change: Rogers, Mary Ann (I10371)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link:
> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10371&tree=MP
>
> Description: Hi Ian,
> Mary Ann Rogers was born in the Cascades Female Factory, Hobart on 19 October 1851. She died in Delegate, not Bombala, on the date you
> already have. She died in childbirth - she haemorrhaged and the baby was buried with her.
>
> Bob Friederich
Thank you Bob,
Regards, Ian
CAMPBELL/ BALDWIN/ WATLING/ THOMAS/ADAMS
From:
Yahoo! Mail
Sent: 2014-06-15 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: MONARO PIONEERS NEWSLETTER - 2014 Number 5
Hi David,
I'm sending these photos to you as I don't have Ian's email, may have to send in two batches as I'm leaving them a reasonable size for printing.
1. Albert Campbell 1886 - 1975 ........ 2136 Private - 55 Battalion
2. William Harold Baldwin 1887 ....... (Father William Henry Baldwin)
3. Harold Edward Watling 1889 - 1868
4. William Thomas 1882 (Photo taken 1917 Sydney)
5. George Thomas 1882 - 1953 & Alexander (Alec) McDonald 1886 - 1955
6. Charlie Adams (& wife Bertha)
Regards, Yvonne Foster
Thank you Yvonne,
Can you tell me if the photo of William Thomas and George Thomas are in fact of the same person?
Can you also provide any more details about Alexander McDonald to help me identify him in our database? His parents' names would help.
Regards, Ian
Hello Ian,
I haven't been able to find the correct details for William Thomas & George either, he signed the photo W.J. Thomas & written on the back is .....
"To dear Ethel and 'Twinnie' with best love and all good luck and wishes, Yours For Ever, Will."
George Thomas married Ethel Campbell. I think their parents are George William Thomas & Mary Ann Smith of Kiandra or Cooma.
Alec McDonald was Alexander McDonald son of Ronald McD. & Margaret McD. (grandson of John McD. & Sarah Scott) ..... I think his nickname was 'Sandy' because of his red hair ...... I've been told he was brought up partly by Donald Campbell & Ann McD. as there was a death or something in his family, or they were having some sort of hardship.
Regards, Yvonne
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
Hi Again David,
Here's the rest of the photos,
Charlie Adams was half brother to James Andrew Mitchell; ( his father James Kennedy Mitchell apparently went to Ballarat & married 1878 to Elizabeth Catherine Winnett & had 4 more children to 1892, I think he went bankrupt)
Regards, Yvonne Foster
Hi Yvonne,
Charles Adams is a mystery, can you provide more details?
Regards, Ian
Hi again Ian,
I have spent this afternoon looking for the connection to Charles Adams & Bertha, all I could find was Charles Henry E. Adams married 1915 in Hornsby, NSW to Bertha Ellen Grant (born 1891 Sydney) so you may have to forget about them.
I will attach a descendant chart for James Mitchell, I have no certificates for this family, just what I have from Peter Matthews (descendant of James Mitchell & Amelia Hayse) & the internet,
Regards, Yvonne
Thanks Yvonne,
I too discovered Charles Henry Edwin Adams and his family connections - details now in the database along with your photos.
Regards, Ian
CASEY/CURRAN
From:
James McDonald
Sent: Sunday, 15 June 2014 9:57 AM
Subject: Questions re: scope and contributions
Good morning Ian
A cousin alerted me to your website recently and today I registered for access.
I have to say that you and the other volunteers have done a magnificent job and it is certainly a very valuable resource for local families and researchers. You have done a great job!
I just have a few questions for you.
1. Scope
There seem to be few northern families included, like our Caseys from Gundaroo. What is the scope of the site and do you apply a boundary rule or similar to determine which families you include or don't include?
I have a fair bit of information on the Reids (Gundaroo), Richs (Ginninderra, Gundaroo and Gunning), Gribbles (Ginninderra and Hall), Caseys (Gundaroo), Currans (Gundaroo, Queanbeyan, Ginninderra and Williamsdale), and Lodges (Collector and Queanbeyan). If I knew what the boundaries were, it would help narrow down what you may or may not be interested in.
2. Casey family
As mentioned above, John Casey's family were northerners, and I was surprised to see them included for the Eden Monaro. There are also a few errors in the information relating to him. I can see that whoever filled in the notes field cut-and-paste an entry for him I wrote on Ancestry (unattributed), but some of the other information reported is incorrect - e.g. the arrival in the district as 1835. He was working on Joshua Moore's Canberry station in 1827, when he assisted James Ainslie in the capture of the bushranger, John Tennant and earned his ticket of leave and settled down shortly after at Gundaroo, i.e. well before 1835.
On the subject of the Caseys, I'm organising a reunion at Gundaroo on 21 September and wanted to know if you would be happy to let your readers know that it'll be on. If this is OK, I can put together a few words for you.
3. Curran family
I'm writing up a history of the Curran family and have plenty of info on them if you are interested. It builds on the great work done by Brian Maher on the Keefes and Currans. I think a few members of the family had a presence south of Canberra.
Please let me know if you are interested in contributions and I'll send information through to you. Once again, congratulations on such a great website.
Cheers, James
Hi James,
The scope of the database really has no limits. We have families or branches of families included from all over the country. If an original settler started in the Eden/Monaro, their descendants did not always stay put and thus we have included a lot of information about families who resided outside of the area.
My general rule of thumb for interest is the area south of Goulburn to the border and east of the Hume highway to the coast. All of the areas you mention fall comfortably within this general area and thus we would be very interested in any additional information you can provide and any corrections you can make to our existing information.
We do "advertise" family reunions on our website and in our newsletter and would be happy to assist your project.
Regards, Ian
HERBERT
From: Adrian Herbert
Sent: Friday, 13 June 2014 9:52 AM
Subject: Comments (Home)
Comments (Home): Hi Ian,
Great website! Regarding Samuel Herbert b. 1813 and Eliza Brown b. 1815.
They are my GGG grandparents and I reside in Queanbeyan. I am trying to locate where Samuel is buried exactly but also am at a loss with Eliza.
Eliza died in Goulburn and was buried in the Queanbeyan Riverside Cemetery.
One website suggests the following....
Brown, Eliza, d. 13 Sep 1933, age: 87yr, C of E Sec, Unmarked http://www.interment.net/data/aus/nsw/southerntablelands/quean_river/quean_a
b.htm
This website also comes up with a death in her 80's with different parents?
Her headstone was also washed away in the floods. One of Elisa's son's is buried there so it's a good chance she is the correct person buried there, but I'm not sure now. Any assistance would be appreciated.
Regards, Adrian Herbert
Hi Adrian,
The only information we have is what you see displayed in our database on our website.
Eliza Herbert nee Brown died August 18, 1851 (35yrs) and is buried in the Queanbeyan Riverside Cemetery.
Regards, Ian
BUCKEY
From:
Kayla Packett
Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 1:00 PM
Subject: John Buckey enquiry
Hi Ian,
I hope this email finds you well.
I am researching my Grandfather’s side of the family as I am travelling to Ireland in August and wish to see where we came from.
My Grandfather was Leo Burke, son of Bill and Edna. Bill’s Mother was Ellen Buckley, the daughter of John Patrick Senior – who I believe was the first family member to make it to Australia. I have looked online and made several enquiries with counties in Ireland and no one has heard of ‘Lacka South Glen’ ( this is on the website as where he came from ). Do you possibly have any other information?
Sorry to bother you if this is just wasting your time.
Kind regards, Kayla
Hi Kayla,
The information we have is as supplied to us and everything we have is displayed on our website. His immigration details shows his origin as Millstreet, County Cork.
Regards, Ian
REIDY
From: Lyn de Klerk
Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2014 10:40 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Reidy, Sarah Jane (I13189)
Proposed Change: Reidy, Sarah Jane (I13189)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I13189&tree=MP
Description: Hi There
Although I am yet to confirm, I believe this is the death notice for Sarah Jane
Harrington (nee Reidy).
5312/1935 HARRINGTON SARAH J JOHN SARAH SYDNEY
Sydney morning herald: 22 May 2935
HARRINGTON -May 21 1935 at her residence 191 Barcom avenue Darlinghurst Sarah
Jane Harrington aged 71 years Requlescat In peace.
Cheers, Lyn
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
Hi Ian
As discussed earlier.
Confirmation of Sarah Jane Reidy's death.
Copy of death certificate attached.
Also death certificate for her husband Michael Harrington.
Cheers, Lyn de Klerk
Thank you Lyn,
Regards, Ian
CLOWRY
From:
john clowry
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2014 6:47 PM
Subject: Catherine Clowry nee Lamond info
Hi Ian,
I just joined the Monaro Pioneers website. I found a lot of information about my
ancestors - your site has a lot of valuable information. I am looking forward to
going through the information and compiling details about various family
members.
I notice that the information on the website about my great great grandmother,
Catherine Clowry nee Lamond is probably incorrect. I have a copy of her 1903
death certificate and it states that her parents were Duncan Lamond and Mary de
Courcy and that she lived in the colony for 62 years. The information on the
Monaro Pioneers website states that she was born at Bathurst in 1824 and that
her parents were Archibald Lamont and Agnes Leitch both born in 1808 (therefore
they were only 12 when their daughter was born). Do you want me to scan the
information that I have and send it to you? Of course the information that you
have may be correct; where did you get it? I haven't been able to find
definitive information about when Catherine came to Australia, though there is a
shipping record for a Catherine Lamon coming to Australia on the Comet in 1841.
Regards, John
Hi John,
Thank you for the offer, yes please, we would very much appreciate a scan copy of Catherine's death certificate.
Regards, Ian
Ian,
I have scanned the death certificate transcripts for Thomas and Catherine Clowry,
their marriage transcript and a summary of Thomas Clowry's family. I also have
copies of various transcripts for most of the ten children of Thomas and
Catherine.
As an aside I found a long lost relative in your database today. My great
grandmother Ellen Kilmartin, married to John Clowry the eldest of the ten
children, had a sister named Bridget. I haven't been able to find information
on her previously. Your website has all her information - confirmation that it
is my relation is found in the name of her youngest son, Philip Kilmartin
Gerathy. Bridget married John Gerathy of Cathcart.
My grandmother on my mother's side of the family was born in Canberra in 1893.
Her parents were working for Arthur Brassey on his property at Acton when they
met. They were Bartholomew Carroll and Mary Hartigan. Bartholomew's brother and
sister also lived in the area. Patrick, who was the first to come to the
district, married Mary Darmody and later moved to the Cooma district. Margaret
Carroll married twice - the first time to Patrick Buckley and the second to
Charles Burn. Both her husbands and her son were tailors in Queanbeyan.
All the best. John
Hi John,
Thank you for the scanned images and information. I have now been able to link the siblings of Patrick Carroll as a result. If you could provide the names and details of your parents and their parents I should be able to then connect both sides of your family.
Regards, Ian
GINN
From: Kerry Meagher
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2014 1:18 PM
Subject: EMILY CATHERINE GINN
Hi Ian
My name is Kerry Meagher and I am researching the Jarvis/King family for my partner.
I am looking for the death of Emily Catherine Ginn and her husband David William Jarvis. They were married 1903 at Braidwood. Can you help?
Look forward to hearing from you
Regards, Kerry Meagher
SAWTELL NSW
Hi Kerry,
Sorry, we don't have any death information for that couple. I suggest it could have been Victoria as one of their sons enlisted in WW2 in Victoria.
Regards, Ian
COLLINS
From:
Kellie Brown
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2014 6:01 PM
Subject: Regarding:Subject: James Collins information
I see these people have the marriage cert for James COLLINS to Mary REILLY.
Their best move now would be to find the Church Records/Archives for the church named on the marriage certificate.
Pre 1896 NSW Marriages it was up to the Church to record birthplace/parents etc NOT NSW BDM.
Only an index of the church records were sent to NSW BDM Registry which is why there are so many marriage certificates with no information on them.
Throughout the years NSW BDM began trying to update their records with the information collected by the churches but many churches did not agree and refused to send in their records or only sent in various/partial years.
So, depending on the church and area, pre1896 NSW marriage certs are like a lucky dip. Sometimes you get a winner and sometimes not.
Kellie
Regards,
Ian
ARCHER
On 10/06/2014 18:39, kellie wrote:
> Proposed Change: Archer, Emma (I136066)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link:
> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I136066&tree=MP
>
> Description: Emma arrived Oct 1872 on "Hawkesbury" she is listed as 21yo (so born abt 1851) is a nurse and needlewoman, both parents
> William and Emma are deceased. She was Church of England and can read and write.
>
> This appears to be her in 1851 census with both parents Household
> Members William Archer 22, Emma Archer 19, Emma Archer 11 Week. Where born: Bristol, Somerset, England
>
> kellie
Thanks,
Ian
McGREGOR
From: greta jones
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2014 4:27 PM
Subject: 2 pictures for you
Hi Ian,
Thought you might like to add this Headstone photo to the McGregor site of John William Charles ID:145191 sent from the Cemetery by a young relation, modern technology blows me away.
The Children are John James McEvoy born 16/6/1884 and Evangeline Mary McEvoy born 10/8/1886, Son and Daughter of John Sheil McEvoy and Mary (nee
Hemmings) Family ID: F13151.
Maybe good for John Sheil McEvoy site ID:F13151.
The Soldiers are Charlie Lampill seated, John James McEvoy standing ID:4115, A photo I inherited because of my Hemmings connection.
Rumoured Charlie Lampill was from the Hunter Valley, haven't looked for details.
Enough for today, maybe more later in the week.
Regards Greta Jones
Hi Greta,
Any chance of getting the photos of the soldiers in much higher resolution?
Regards, Ian
RANKIN
From:
Bill Webster
Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Rankin tartan
Hi Ian
Regarding recent correspondence on this topic. Long ago I saw the books maintaining that Rankins were traditional pipers to the Clan Maclean. This is a bit like going to those hawkers of coats of arms and crests supposedly belonging to your surname.
SOME Rankins may well have been pipers to the Macleans of Duart. But, crucially, if your Rankin forebears did not live on Maclean lands, they most likely were not septs of that clan. At this Monaro site we have different, possibly once related long back, Rankins from Inverness and Argyll. Their clan lands were most probably Cameron, Macdonald or Campbell.
In my case, Angus Rankin (abt 1756-1824), tacksman of Glencoe, was a clansman of Macdonald of Glencoe, often referred to as MacIan. There are ample references to them in Iain S Macdonald’s comprehensive book “Glencoe and Beyond: The Sheep Farming Years 1780-1830”. If you read, further back, of the Glencoe massacre, Rankins were there taking MacIan’s instructions. Poor MacIan was the laird who paid for getting to Inverary too late to have his surrender accepted.
These Macdonalds suffered as a consequence and sold out of Glencoe reasonably early in the 19thC – to go to England or estates in the West Indies. So there has been no local laird for nearly two centuries and the tartan is rare and possibly in dispute. But their Rankin tenants were not septs of the Clan Maclean.
Best regards, Bill Webster
Thanks Bill,
Regards, Ian
JONES
On 09/06/2014 15:44, Greta Jones wrote:
> Proposed Change: Jones, A.W. (I76335)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link:
> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I76335&tree=MP
>
> Description: Allen William Jones passed away on 14/4/2006 and is buried in Mittagang Cemetery Cooma
>
> Greta Jones
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
WALLACE
From: Greta Jones
Sent: Monday, 9 June 2014 3:13 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Wallace, Percy (I90831)
Proposed Change: Wallace, Percy (I90831)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: =
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=3DI90831&tree=3DMP
Description: Percy and Sarah Wallace also had a Son named Cecil Henry Wallace who was born at Jindabyne on 30th April 1923.
Private Cecil Henry Wallace N268462 served in 4 Australian Infantry Battalion and died of illness 11th September 1945.
As I am able will also include a photo.
Regards Greta
Thank you Greta,
Regards, Ian
JONES
On 09/06/2014 15:40, Greta Jones wrote:
> Proposed Change: Jones, Veronica Rose (I76334)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link:
> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I76334&tree=MP
>
> Description: Veronica Rose Jones wife of Leslie Batten is still very much alive and living in Cooma.
>
> Greta Jones
Thanks for letting us know, I guess the entry in the Mittagang Cemetery list is just a reservation in her name.
Regards, Ian
From:
kate clery
Sent: Monday, 9 June 2014 10:12 AM
Subject: WW1 contributions
Hi Ian,
Reading about you wanting to get WW1 soldiers photos...there are images of soldiers on my website that you are welcome to copy.
www.towambavalleyhistory.bravepages.com on the index page there is a link to the WW1 & 11 section.
Regards, Kate Clery
Thank you Kate,
Regards, Ian
RANKIN
On 09/06/2014 09:21, Les Horn wrote:
> Proposed Change: Rankin, Donald (I156294)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link:
> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I156294&tree=MP
>
> Description: Donald, and his wife Catherine, were burien on Eilean Shona in Loch Leven.
>
> Alexander McDonald's Index of MIs on Eilean Shona (2002/3) gives the location of the MI as being in the SE Burial Ground (Glencoe &
> Tighphuirt) Section 'C' -
>
> "Donald Rankin who died at Killichonate 27 Mar 1842 aged 77 yrs (son of the late Neil Rankin Esq Kinlochleven) and husband of Isabella,
> youngest daughter of John McDonell Esq Aberarder and granddaughter of Colonel Alex McDonell "Keppoch of the Day" who was killed at Culloden
> 1746. This stone was erected by his sons Angus Rankin JP and brothers of Bombowlee, Tumut, New South Wales"
>
> Les Horn
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
ROBERSON
From: Michelle
Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2014 6:38 PM
Subject: 100th anniversary of the 1st World War
Hi Ian,
In respond to your message on the monaro pioneers newsletter regarding photos of diggers from World War One, I have attached a photo of my great-grand uncle Harold Patrick Joseph Roberson who was from the Jindabyne area. Harold was killed in action on the Western Front on 9 April 1917 aged 21.
Through my research I found this photo of him on the Australian War Memorial website. If you are looking for photos of diggers from the Eden Monaro region you might find some on the memorial website.
Cheers, Michelle
Thank you Michelle,
Regards, Ian
PRIMMER
From: greta jones
Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2014 4:00 PM
Subject: 3 WW1 photos 7 1 WW2 photo
Hello Ian,
Hope I have got the format right.
First photo Ernest Montie Primmer is person identity 153592, Second photo is of an unidentified soldier hoping someone can help with this one.
Third photo is Brothers Daniel O S McGregor ID: 145218 standing with John William Charles McGregor ID:145191 seated.
Fourth photo My Brother Norman McLaurin McGufficke (Dick) ID1246647 WW2.
Please let me know if this is acceptable, if so I will forward more.
Regards Greta Jones
Hi Greta,
Thank you for the photos. After examining the first and second photos I would suggest they are both of the same person. The facial features are very similar even though the first photo is somewhat blurred.
Regards, Ian
KELLY
From: Jeanie Brandeberry
Sent: Monday, 9 June 2014 4:32 AM
Subject: Kelly
The Thomas Joseph Kelly of Bega his son Edward Germaine had five children I see only three listed, Margaret, Thomas and Luleitha, the other two are Benjamin B. Aug 18 1921 D.1970. Then
Mary B. May20 1917. Also I am not sure who gets listed in the pioneers index, but didn't see Edward Germaine Kelly. A new subject, Karen Howe listed her grandparents has John Denis Harrington and Ellen Harrington nee Warner, who are mine also,I would like to know who her parents were, how do I do that. My mother Jean Anne Harrington married Thomas Joseph Kelly Thanks for any help.
Jeanie Kelly (Brandeberry)
Hi Jeanie,
Thank you for the information. The email address for Karen is 'Karen Howe', I suggest you contact her direct.
Regards, Ian
RAMSAY
From:
Brian and Georgie
Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2014 6:56 PM
Subject: make contact with a contributor
Hello Ian
Are you able to put me in contact with Georgina RAMSAY. She is a COLLINS descendant too but obviously does not know it…from Frances NANCARROW my great aunt.
Today I thought I must try and find person from Frances’ family and make contact.
My name is Georgina FROGLEY nee COLLINS and I have contributed some information in the past but am not really familiar how best to use your site.
Hopefully today is my day.
Many thanks, Georgins
Hi Georgins,
The email address is 'Georgina Ramsay'
Regards, Ian
SPENCER
On 08/06/2014 15:20, Kerry Donaghy wrote:
> Proposed Change: Spencer, Catherine Mary (I77460)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link:
> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I77460&tree=MP
>
> Description: Catherine died 11 September 1942 at her residence "Los
> Angelos" 73 Parramatta Road, Concord, NSW and was buried on 13
> September 1942 in Grave 822, Section 8 Anglican Portion, Rookwood.
>
> Kerry Donaghy
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
MAHER
On 08/06/2014 12:38, Brian Maher wrote:
> Proposed Change: Maher, L.K. (I201409)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link:
> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I201409&tree=MP
>
> Description: Lila Katherine Verdich (Maher) Born Tumut NSW 20-06-1918
> Died 9-12-2007 Spouse Roy Verdich.
> Son Brendon Robert Died 11-10-1994
> Son Ross Living
>
> Brian Maher
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
KELLEHAR
From:
Myles & Elizabeth Hannan
Sent: Sunday, 8 June 2014 12:30 PM
Subject: Kelleher Family Tree - Eden Monaro Pioneers Database
Ian,
Attached is a GEDCOM file containing details of the first six generations descended from John Kelleher and Mary Freese (or Frost), married about 1800 in County Clare, Ireland. I have suppressed details of living persons and included basic details of spouses’ parents, where known. I have included the Hannan Family Tree because I have updated some of the details within the Hannan Family Tree since I last sent it to you and the Hannan family tree is contained within the Kelleher family tree. I still have Hynes, Greenwood and Hallam families to come, another three or four thousand records.
Myles Hannan
Thank you Myles,
Incidentally, I have removed all the individuals with a name of "living" because it is pointless to include them in the database. In some cases where this would have left an isolated and unrelated individual, I have deleted them too.
The database does include many living people but no details other than name and initial are viewable for privacy reasons. As time passes and those people pass on, the information would become available. The database is designed to be a research tool for future generations with obvious benefit to present day users.
Regards, Ian
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