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Monaro Pioneers Newsletter

2014 Number 9

 REQUESTS:

WILLOUGHBY

From: Sue Zammit
Sent: 2014-09-26 7:28 PM
Subject: WILLOUGHBY REUNION 2015 AT BRAIDWOOD NSW

Hello David

I would like to introduce myself. My name is Sue Zammit and I live in Gisborne, Victoria. My fathers mothers family were the Smith family from Braidwood NSW. The father was Joseph Smith Born in 1843 in Pinxton, Derbyshire England. He married in 1867 in New Zealand to Mary Jane Granger She was born in 1853 in Surrey, England. They went on to have 16 children. The moved to Braidwood New South Wales, Australia in 1891 and Mary Jane went on to have another3 children, one of which was my grandmother Ethel Dorothea Louisa Smith. One of the Smith girls married into the Willoughby family that was settled in Braidwood. That is where the reunion starts. The Willoughby reunion is to be held at the RSL Club in Braidwood on 26,27,28 Sept 2015 There is a Facebook page under Willoughby reunion. I was wondering if you may be able to put a notice on your web site adverting for any descendents of John Willoughby and Mary Ann Mills. She was a half cast aboriginal. I have loads of information on the whole family if your are interested. I can be contacted at email suzyq14@bigpond.com There should be a very healthy turnout as the Willoughby clan is huge.

Many thanks for your time, hope to hear back from you .

Kind regards   Sue Zammit  (Gisborne, Victoria)

CAMPBELL

From: Judith Quinn

Sent: Friday, 25 April 2014 2:13 PM

Subject: RE: Proposed Change: Good, Mary Agnes (I269553)

Hello Ian

Would the below be appropriate for the Newsletter? If so, I would appreciate you forwarding it to the editor.

My great grandfather, Robert Allendale Campbell (1862-1939), and Mary Agnes Campbell (Wallace?) (d. 1936) had 16 children together in the Goulburn/Queanbeyan area. In an article on his death in the Burrowa News he was described as an  old identity of Queanbeyan . I would greatly appreciate any information/leads/contact related to this family and especially Mary Agnes who remains historically invisible to me.

Judith Quinn cwquinn@optusnet.com.au

Current correspondence:

ROBINSON

From: Phillip Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2014 5:43 PM
Subject: reunion

Hi Ian,

Well the Robinson Family Reunion was on the October long weekend last, It was a great success with about 150 people on Saturday and  close on 200 on the Sunday, they came from South Australia, Queensland,  Victoria and all over New South Wales.

I would like to  take this opportunity to thank you and Monaro Pioneers for running our add over the last 18 months/2 years, there were quite a few people that read the add and turned up 

Thanks Again

Phill Robinson

Hi Phill,

Glad we could help and that everything went well.  I Look forward to all the new and exciting info that must have been collected as a result.

Regards,  Ian

> From: graeme barrow

> Sent: Tuesday, 7 October 2014 9:24 AM

> Subject: Boloco church

> Dear Ian

>

> I am a researcher/writer in Canberra and am at present researching

> churches designed by Alberto Soares in the second half of the 19th

> century. One of these is St James's at Boloco said to have been built

> by brothers Henry and John Arthur Watson who migrated from England in

> the 1860s and bought Matong Station. However I can find no record of

> the Watsons in the "Monaro Pioneers" listings under W and wonder if

> you

know of them.

>

> Many thanks for any help you can give.

>

> Graeme Barrow

> Hi Graeme,

>

> We do have a John Arthur Watson in our database who married Annie

> Norman Preston in 1875 in Yass.  Annie Watson died February 1, 1878

> and is buried in the Cemetery opposite St. James' Church in Boloco.

> Unfortunately we have not as yet received any other detail on John

> Arthur Watson.

>

> We have no Henry Watson connected to John Arthur as yet but there is a

> Henry Watson who married Ellen Ferguson Gunning in 1873 and who raised

> a family (births registered in Cooma) and who could be the same person.

>

> According to the Monaro Monumental Inscriptions document produced by

> the Heraldry and Genealogy Society of Canberra there is a Book of

> Common Prayer which is inscribed : Given to St. James' Church Beloco

> by Mrs. Watson of Lutterworth, England 25 July 1873.  This could well

> be Ellen Ferguson Watson.

>

> Can you provide any more specific detail as to when the church was built?

>

> Regards,  Ian

Dear Ian

Many thanks for all that information. The fact that Annie was buried at Boloco is a pointer that her husband John Arthur Watson was one of the brothers. I have yet to discover the exact location of their Matong Station, but I'm assuming it's somewhere near Boloco.

The "Mrs Watson" who gave the bible to the church was the Watson brothers'

mother. She also donated 100 pounds ($14 000 today) to the cost of building the church.

The church has a plaque dedicated to the "Watson family, pioneers of the Monaro".

Construction of St James began in 1871 and was half finished in February 1872. It was dedicated in July 1873 and consecrated on 4 March 1877.

Thanks again.

Graeme

Hi folks,

Does anyone have any information on the Watson Family you can share with us?

Regards,  Ian

From: hagsoc@hagsoc.org.au

Sent: 2014-10-06 4:34 PM

Subject: Monaro Pioneers

Dear David

One of our members has drawn HAGSOC Council's attention to your newsletter, and mentioned that you are looking for a succession plan to enable you to retire in the foreseeable future. I have been asked to find out from you what the role of maintaining Monaro Pioneers involves, apart from the newsletter.

In seeking this information, I do not wish to raise your expectations because any possible involvement by HAGSOC would need to be considered by the incoming Council which will be elected at next month's Annual General Meeting.

Kind regards,  Pauline Bygraves

Secretary,  The Heraldry & Genealogy Society Of Canberra Inc

Hi Pauline,

The concern I have is the continuing existence of the Monaro Pioneers website and in particular the genealogical database containing over 350,000 names.  At present I "own" and fund the cost of the domain name Monaropioneers.com and I also fund the cost of the web hosting for the MP site.  I also maintain both the website and the database. 

I am not seeking to "retire" as such but I am concerned that if for some unforeseen circumstance I am no longer around, the current subscriptions would lapse and the MP site would be removed by the web hosting organisation and no longer be available for researchers to use.  The domain name and the website need to be independent and not reliant on my existence or financial ability.

Therefore, I am looking for an organisation who will be in existence into the future and can provide a hosting facility that can accommodate the MP Site and Database.  However, there must be a guarantee that the information on the MP site and in the database remains freely available and not subject to any fees or charges. 

The MP database continues to grow and evolve as more and more people provide family tree information as well as copies of photos and documents to our project and I want this process to continue into the future.  Maintaining the database is key to the ongoing benefit of the MP site.

I am happy to talk to your organisation at any time.

Regards,  Ian Harvey

Monaro Pioneers Project

ROBERSON

On 05/10/2014 19:06, Wayne Roberson wrote:

> Proposed Change: Family: Roberson,  Frederick/Berkery,  Bridget

> (F67743)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F67743&tree=MP

>

> Description: There were more children for Fred and Bridget, I know of

> the followng(not sure of birth or death dates:

> Daphne ( still living in cooma at Massey st) Rita ( passed on) Thelma

> ( passed away) Carl( still living in Stdney) And my father Selwyn

> Laurie (passed away)

>

> I have not heard of Dorothy, I think she may be from anohr line.

>

> Wayne Roberson

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

O’CONNOR

From: Denene and Stephen B.
Sent: Sunday, 5 October 2014 3:26 PM
Subject: MONARO PIONEERS SITE

Hi Ian

I was wondering about the information you have under William Edward O’Connor 1879-1945, his parents are Edward O’Connor and Elizabeth Patience Farrell.

William is my first great grandfather.

Do you know of someone I can contact about William, especially the comment listed as married twice – would you know who gave you that information or someone that really knows about William.

Also I have some information on some people within your site – do I email you or just use the Suggest tab under the person?

If you could please let me know, if you know, of someone that could help me, that would be great.

Thank you,  Denene

Hi Denene,

Unfortunately, we have no contact details for that family.  I have my doubts about the "married twice" comment and will remove it until such time as a second wife's details are supplied.  I am happy to receive your additional information either way whichever is convenient.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian

Thanks for getting back to me, I just thought I would try with you because of a story my uncle told me about his brother (my grandfather Joe, one of William’s sons) and well I don’t totally believe him and was trying to find proof.

William could very well have been married twice, but I am still finding this info out.  I don’t believe he was actually married to Josephine McEnerny because her death index listing says McEnerny and not O’Connor or Connor, and she may have gone by her middle name of May.  I do have some info on her.  I will sort out some details that I have and send through another time.

Denene

HAYDEN

On 05/10/2014 05:46, Tony Coles wrote:

Proposed Change: Hayden,  John George (I135901)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:

http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I135901&tree=MP

Description: Hayden, John George (I135901) was the son of "Big Jack"

Hayden, but he did not marry or have children.

From page 3 of the Southern Star (Bega, NSW) of Sat 25 Feb 1922:

"Death of Mr. John Hayden

After a long illness, Mr John Hayden passed away peacefully on Thursday evening, at the age of 61. Deceased was a son of the late Mr John Hayden, one of the earliest pioneers, and after whom the 'Big Jack'

Mountain is named. Deceased had been a sufferer for many years from asthma, and for the last seven months had been an invalid. He was a man beloved by all who knew him, and in horse-racing circles he was a leading breeder and owner.  He judged and raced many good horses, including London, which subsequently went to India and won good races there. One of his latest, and probably the best, is Sunny Bill, lately running in Sydney. Deceased was also an expert farmer and with his brother Malcolm worked their well-known maize flats near town. He never married, and was a quiet-living man, who had a large circle of friends, and there was no more popular man around Bega than Jack Hayden. His sister, Mrs E P Rodd. of Eden, was up to assist in nursing deceased in his last days. The funeral took place to the Church of England cemetery on Friday afternoon, and was largely attended."

The children attributed to him were actually the children of another John George Hayden, who was married to Bertha Agnes Nicol in 1891 in Paddington.  This John George died in Chatswood (15978/1919) and his father was Rev Thomas Hayden, the first rector of the Anglican Church of St John at Darlinghurst, NSW.

His daughter Charlotte Cary was married in 1915, and this was from page

10 of The Sydney Morning Herald of Wed 14 Jul 1915:

"EWINS-HAYDEN.-June 28, 1915, at St. Matthias', Paddington, by the Rev.

J. G. Fielding, Harold Egbert Ewins, late of Tamworth, prior to his going to the front, to Charlotte Cary, eldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs.

J. G. Hayden, and granddaughter of the late Rev. Thomas Hayden, first rector of St. John's, Darlinghurst."

  Tony Coles

Thanks for letting us know,

Regards,  Ian

BUCKLEY

On 04/10/2014 20:56, Bill de Dassel wrote:

> Proposed Change: Buckley,  Marion Elizabeth (I2211)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I2211&tree=MP

>

> Description: Marion Buckley was also mother to Olga Therese Buckley

> born in Nimmitebelle sometime before Marion was married. Olga Therese

> Buckley married Edward Charles Sarran sometime in the 1940's and they

> had five daughters.

>

> Bill de Dassel

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

BULGARIES

From: annes

Sent: 2014-10-03 9:36 PM

Subject: BULGARIES family tree

Dear David,  my grandmother was Mary Olive Ida Kiss, daughter of Elizabeth Bulgaries.  Here is a list of her offspring (including my father, Mervyn Earle Skates) for the Monaro database.   Anne (Skates)

.Offspring of Ida Olive Kiss and Cyril Ewart Skates

.         Dorothy Eunice Skates,       b 1907 Narrandera 26896/1907

                                                          d 1 June 1973 Pambula

Marriage: Edward Mongan 1934 Coolamon, 10103/1934

.         Madge Emerald Skates, b. 19 September 1909, Wagga Wagga. 37583/1909

                                               d. 31 May 1988, Wagga Wagga

Marriage: Victor C Robertson 1932 Coolamon, NSW, 7757/1932

.         Edna May Skates              b 25 May 1916

                                                          d 12 January 1988

Marriage: Keith Oliver Armstrong 1936: Coolamon 4340/1936

.         Hazel Nita Skates               b 1918

                                                d February 2004.

Marriage: Lyell Maxwell Poole 1940: Coolamon 26185/1940

.         Mary Olive Skates              b 1912 Junee 17453/1912

                                                          d 13 December 1996 Drummoyne

Marriage: Wilfred Edward Pennings 1940: Wagga Wagga 28980/1940

.         (Cyril) James Hewitt Skates, b. 1921

                                                                   d. 1993

Marriage: Rita Joyce Hacker 1951 Urana 6605/1951

.         Mervyn Earle Skates           b 29 September 1925

                                                d 13 April 2002

Marriage: Pauline Margaret Stoney 1949 Coolamon  14809/1949

.         (Ruby) Joyce Skates                   b          1928  Coolamon

                                                                   d        2010 Sydney

Marriage Ronald James Warwick in 1954. 13905/1954

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

LITTLEY

Subject: Proposed Change: Littley,  Betty Patricia (I41755)

Date: 01/10/2014 20:49

From: Gregory McInnes

Proposed Change: Littley,  Betty Patricia (I41755)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:

http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I41755&tree=MP

Description: Bombala Times Sept. 17, 2014

Obituary: Betty?s legacy still lives

BETTY Patricia Platts ? mother, grazier and gardener ? died on Saturday, September 6, 2014.

Betty lived on the southern Monaro, a few miles east of Bombala, at Stonehenge, for 62 years.  Travellers taking Cathcart Road will have watched the Crankies Plain landscape along  the Coolumbooka River change as the many trees and wind breaks she planted established and matured.  Family and the farm were her life and focus for more than 40 years.

She progressively took over the day-to-day management of the farm from her husband Norman (deceased) and his uncle Alban Platts.  The care of the stock and soils fell under her prudent management.  Maintaining the fences and yards, controlling weeds and the rabbits, all fitted into the annual joining and sowing calendar.  Each year there was time for tree planting and building tree guards.  The paddock trees and much of her large garden came from seed collected on trips through Cooma or Canberra.

Driving trips with Betty frequently involved a quick dash across the median strip to collect seeds or pieces of a shrub.  These treasures, stowed in empty takeaway coffee cups or a handbag, would be carefully planted, watered and nurtured.  Once ready, the seedlings would be given the best chance of thriving in the garden.  As her expertise and range of plants increased, street stalls, fetes and garden visitors were all recipients of a few plants.  While the garden was her haven and creative centre, the farm was the greatest challenge.

The seasons on the southern Monaro deal up many challenges and she took each on as it came, preparing and planning for what might come.  Dealing with the many years of drought she also made the most of the good seasons.  In the early years managing the farm, she was one of the few women taking on all aspects of running their farm business.  There was no job too mucky or too hard and she would be out in all weather.

Shelter sheds were built for lambing ewes and shorn sheep and each was planted with windbreaks and shelter trees to extend the protection.  Clearing sales were a favourite, each one being a likely source of second hand materials for building.  With these weekend excursions came the chance to catch up with neighbours, friends and family over a cuppa.

Along with the practical items came an increasing interest in collectables and old equipment.  Betty was a firm believer in reuse and recycle long before it gained fashion.  Old telephone line insulators still mark the electric fence line, and a wet day spent welding in the shed saw bits and pieces made into gate gudgeons or garden supports for roses and jasmines.

When the garden developed sufficiently to provide shelter, she began growing varieties of tree peonies from seed that have given her great pleasure.  She loved to share the treasures of her garden with friends old and new.  Many of you will still have plants that went home to your garden in the boot of the car after a visit to her garden.

In the years leading up to her retirement she was pleased to open the garden as part of the NSW Open Garden Scheme.

It was all hands to the wheelbarrows and rakes in the weeks leading up to the event.  Sheep manure to be dug and spread, mulch and bark chips to be spread, snakes to scare off and parking signs to paint.

Betty is survived by her brother John, daughter Anne, Anne?s partner Kelly, her grandchildren Ciara and Reece, thousands of trees and her garden.

A ceremony to celebrate her life will be held in her garden at Stonehenge on Saturday, September 20, 2014. All welcome.

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

STEWART

From: Gregory McInnes

Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2014 7:45 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Stewart, Elizabeth May (I185641)

Proposed Change: Stewart,  Elizabeth May (I185641)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I185641&tree=MP

Description: Bombala Times Sep. 24, 2014

Obituary: Elizabeth May Cameron - A hard but fulfilling life

ELIZABETH May Cameron – Bessie as she was known to all – was born on March 7, 1927, the fifth child born to Ronald and Maria Stewart.

Bessie was delivered by a midwife at home as the hospital expense was too much; her mother, however, developed blood poisoning and she and baby Bessie were transferred to Delegate Hospital.   After some tense days her mother was saved and went on to deliver three other sons.  Eight children all up – Freda, Ben, Jim, Joan, Bessie, Max, Peter and Barry.

Some of Bessie’s earliest memories were sleeping in a double bed in a small room, top and tail with her sister and small brothers.  Bessie, together with her brothers and sisters, attended Bendoc North school with around 30 other children and only one teacher who taught 1st to 8th grade.  She walked, like everybody else, to school, which was about 2 1/2 miles from home, in hail, rain or heat.  Walking home one evening, Bessie called in to a neighbour’s house for some lettuce and cabbage.  When a hailstorm hit half-way home, the children put the cabbages and lettuces on their heads for protection and the vegetables were chopped to pieces – needless to say their mother was not pleased.

At the time Bessie started school she had no books; all she had was a piece of slate about 10 inches square in a wood frame and a slate pencil.  In second grade she was given a book to write in.  No one was allowed to use their left hand.

Her school lunches were often spoilt by flies or, if honey sandwiches, ants.

Bessie always remembered that they received the  spelling of 10 words to learn for home work.  Their teacher would have a spelling competition of 60 words every term.  Bessie was competitive and mostly got first or dropped one word and got second.  They were given nice prizes and the family still has a clock and ink stand that Bessie won.  This teacher also taught the children how to catch and kill snakes without damaging the skin; interestingly, Bessie could always kill a snake, but a spider would always bring her undone.

A minister taught scripture at the school each Friday.  This was one of Bessie’s great joys at school, especially singing. She was told later in life that they never had hymns when the Stewarts weren’t there, as no-one would sing.  So that she didn’t wear out her shoes, she carried her shoes and put them on when she was close to school.  Some days they would freeze at school and the teacher would let the students take turns to go to the fireplace to get warm.

Joan and Bessie cleaned the school each Friday; they swept, mopped the floor and veranda, and dusted, for which they received sixpence and threepence respectively.  Bessie finished Grade 6, when the school was closed because of the Second World War.

As things got tough during the Depression the two older boys trapped rabbits and Joan and Bessie had to milk eight to ten cows each morning and night. After milking they would clear country; mustering for lamb tailing was one of her biggest horrors.   Bessie knitted every night.  She was never allowed to sit and read, as this was considered to be a waste of time. But she used to hide and read, and Joan would do all the work and cover for her, as long as Bessie told her the stories.  Bessie remembered her young life as being full, there was always something to do and she was never bored.

She would make a bow and arrow, a shangi or a hockey stick, play marbles or cards, or go fishing.  After Bessie left school in 1940 aged 12, she worked on the farm until a cousin from Sydney came to lunch and asked if she could go to the city to work for them as a dental nurse.  She travelled to Sydney by train, boarding in Bombala at 11am and arrived in Sydney around 4am the next morning.  Bessie worked in Sydney for around two years, still training in dentistry, when she received notice she was to be manpowered into a factory.   Her father intervened and she was transferred back home to work on the land army.

There she ploughed, sowed potatoes and cleared more land; the main objective was food for the forces.  Potatoes and turnips were bagged, put on the horse and cart, taken home and from there they were trucked to the trains.   It was hard work on the farm, and she long remembered forking up sheaf hay and forcing big sheep into a dip, as two of the heaviest jobs.  Through the war they made camouflage nets and knitted woollen socks.  They also made boiled fruit cakes for the CWA for the war effort.  They sent Ben and Jim food parcels, mainly consisting of tin fruit, dried fruit and fruit cakes, socks and hankies.

Most weekends after scrubbing the kitchen floor and cooking, Joan and Bessie would take their dogs and go for a kangaroo hunt.   This was necessary, as it was the dogs’ feed for the following week, but at time resulted in some hairy encounters.  The family did not eat kangaroo meat, but hares, rabbits and parrots were common meals.

When her brothers returned from the war, they would take Bessie and Joan to dances, but she always had to be back home to milk the cows and do the chores the next morning.

When Robert Cameron’s mother became ill, and he needed help in the house cooking and cleaning, Bessie went to ‘Pineleigh’ to help.   As time went by they grew fond of each other.  The couple became engaged in December 1948 and married on May 14, 1949 and the birth of their children followed. Firstly Hazel, then Pam a year later and then a year later Robert was born; sadly he passed away at two years of age.   This was a horrifically sad time in Bessie’s life but great joy followed when Doug was born three years later.

Bessie’s involvement with the Anglican Church started when she married in St Phillips Anglican Church, Delegate.   They were unpopular with the Catholics and Presbyterians alike, as the Stewarts were Catholic and the Cameron's were Presbyterian.  Together with Helena Rodwell, they ran a cake stall to raise money for the electric organ for this church.   Bessie then joined St Phillips Parish Council and was on the council for almost all of her church life and president for many years.  She was on the council when it was decided women could be on Synod.  Joan Chewyoweth, the Bishop’s wife at the time, and Bessie were the first two women on Diocesan Synod.   Bessie spoke at a function in Goulburn to more than 300 people, and when she finished her address she received a standing ovation.

She also taught Sunday School at Bendoc and later at Delegate.  Bessie worked tirelessly for the churches in the district.  She was very active in the restoration of the community church at Bendoc and saving the Presbyterian Church in Delegate from being sold.   Bessie was a member of the Delegate Hospital Auxiliary, Delegate Public School P&C, Delegate Tennis Club committee, Delegate Golf Club committee, Delegate Pony Club committee, member of the Bombala Mountain Top Bush Walkers, Chair of the Bendoc Progress Association, Bendoc Fire Brigade and a founding member of St Phillips Op Shop along with her church committees.

Bessie was also actively involved in the sporting lives of her children, and herself played tennis and golf.  She took up sewing, cake decorating, and spent years arranging flowers for church services, weddings and other functions.  She was quite famous in the district for her jam rolls and her extraordinary energy in cooking for street stalls.   She also loved her chooks, and had many battles with foxes, hawks and some of the farm dogs. Bessie was always on hand when Doug needed assistance mustering or shearing, and she liked nothing better than heading out on her four-wheeler bike with a tank of spray to kill tussocks.

Bessie was a true Christian.  She visited many young families when they moved to the district and made all new families feel welcome.   She always remembered what it was like to be a member of a struggling family of eight little Stewarts and it was in her character to always treat everyone equal.

Some of her other achievements and contributions to the district included being awarded the Centenary Medal for Service to the Community in 2001 and in 2003 she was awarded the Bombala and District Citizen of the Year.

Bessie was the “mother hen” of the Stewart family, attending family functions and maintaining contact with her sister-in-laws – Audrey Stewart of Bombala, Alma Stewart of Delegate, Jan Stewart of Candelo, Belle Stewart of Moruya and Margaret Stewart of Hobart.

These unselfish acts throughout her lifetime, were those of the wonderful woman and mother.

Rest in peace.

Extract from Bessie’s diary found in September 1994

Tuesday – Prepared dinners for Mila, rung around for street stall, cooked for street stall, six slices and six butter spreads.

Wednesday – Cooked all day again, 14 rolls, eight butter spreads and six slices.

Thursday – Cooked for stall, eight butter cakes and six rolls. Picked seven bunches of daffodils and potted 15 plants. Checked cows at Locks. Cooked two large cakes for Marshall and his 19 footballers. Mowed lawn.

Friday – Sat on stall day for half day. Did bouquets for local wedding.

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

STEWART

On 01/10/2014 19:12, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Stewart,  Ronald Esmond (I10509)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10509&tree=MP

>

> Description: Children of Ronald and Maria Stewart in order of birth:

> Freda

> Benjamin

> James

> Joan

> Elizabeth May [Born: 27 March 1927, Died: 2014] Max Peter Barry

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

KENNEDY

On 01/10/2014 19:00, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Kennedy,  Herbert (I64936)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I64936&tree=MP

>

> Description: Bombala Times Oct. 1, 2014,

>

> Obituary: Herb and Laura Kennedy -Together in life and death

>

> [Herb died 13-09-2014; Laura died 16-09-2014]

>

> HERB and Laura Kennedy were the children of Alice Niven and Clem

> Kennedy.

>

> The family resided at Rosehill, Rosemeath, and Herb and Laura attended

> the local school.

>

> In their younger years they would ride push bikes to the Olympia

> Theatre and played tennis at the Parsonage.

>

> After leaving the Rosemeath school, Herb and Laura took up farm and

> domestic duties.

>

> Laura was a very good knitter and made a living knitting jumpers and

> repairing clothes.

>

> Herb concentrated on farm duties and quickly got rid of cattle as he

> believed they damaged too many fences.

>

> He developed a large flock of heavy cutting Merino sheep based on

> Inglewood blood.

>

> Over the years Herb and Laura acquired many parcels of land in the

> district including Bucky Springs, Dundundra, Yandilla, Killarney,

> Wiles, Rosemeath and Laughton.

>

> After his farm duties, Herb?s main interest and passion was shooting.

>

> He began this by waging a war against rabbits.

>

> He was a founding member of the Bombala Clay Target Club before it

> went into recess, and then, once again, was one of the first to

> support the reopening of the club in 1967.

>

> Herb was a very good shot and took home many trophies.

>

> He also competed at neighbouring clubs at Berridale and Bega.

>

> Although travelling from home was not on his agenda, he was persuaded

> to travel with other shooters, to compete for the Ampol and Hudson

> Shields at Cowra and other gun clubs.

>

> Our Bombala Gun Club team was successful on many occasions.

>

> Herb also travelled to Melbourne and was successful in making the

> national team.

>

> One memorable occasion for Herb was a trip to Hay with Don Badewitz

> and Kelly Morgan to help out a friend with vermin on his farm.

>

> On the way he was very impressed with a display of old farm machinery

> and cars they were able to visit ? and he had his first taste of 

> chocolate heart; he had never had one before.

>

> Herb did not just shoot, he was a strong supporter of the club.

>

> He was president for a number of years and instigated and funded a

> trophy to support younger members, and he never missed a working bee.

>

> He was also a very generous supplier of meat when there were big

> events and had many visiting shooters.

>

> Herb was made a life member of the club, and was one of only two

> remaining foundation members when the club closed.

>

> Laura was also a keen supporter of the Bombala Gun Club and looked

> forward to the shoots and assist using her cooking skills.

>

> She was a tireless worker for the Bombala Exhibition Society being

> active in the kitchen, a steward for needlework and ultimately become

> a Life Member of the Society.

>

> Laura regularly cooked puddings for the annual show and it is rumoured

> that the kitchen helpers always left serving Laura?s pudding to th 

> last, in the hope they would get the leftovers.

>

> Laura was a member of the View Club and enjoyed going to the Delegate

> Dinners Club.

>

> Herb and Laura were long time members of the Bush Fire Brigade.

>

> They were also heavily involved in wild dog control due to the damage

> they inflicted, even today.

>

> The butchering of animals for baits regularly occurred at Yandilla

> usually in the middle of winter when the baits would last longer.

>

> Laura would turn up with baskets of warm food, freshly made sandwiches

> and cakes.

>

> The frozen fingers of the butchers would soon melt with Laura?

>  legendary cooking.

>

> During one of the aerial baiting sessions, Herb had a lucky escape.

>

> He had been throwing out baits in the back of the Cessna and not

> strapped in, when, on the final approach, the plane ran out of fuel.

>

> Herb sustained a broken nose in the heavy landing and this gave him

> another good yarn to tell.

>

> Herb and Laura were perfectionists in what they did and embraced

> technology such as electric wool presses, fertiliser regimes,

> all-wheel-drive bikes etc before many of their contemporaries.

>

> Herb was particularly proud on his achievements but was never one to

> boast.

>

> He remarked quietly many years ago to a colleague, ?it?s a pity abo t

> the price of wool, my clip won?t even pay for my tax bill thi  year.?

> What a problem.

>

> Herb and Laura enjoyed a simply and happy life which was complete with

> all the modcons.

>

> Laura had a fully automatic washing machine but still insisted on

> using the old ringer.

>

> In Laura?s final week in hospital she remarked that she like lollie 

> especially jubes.

>

> Janet was most amused when Laura said ?I only want a small packet?.

>

> This attitude to life and there business skills allowed Herb and Laura

> to become extremely wealthy.

>

> In their passing we thank the doctors, nurses and staff of the Bombala

> Hospital for their kind and loving care.

>

> Last of a family generation, true friends and family to all, we honour

> Herb and Laura for their contribution to the community and the legacy

> they have provided.

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

LOCKHART

On 01/10/2014 18:37, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Lockhart,  Margaret (I12318)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I12318&tree=MP

>

> Description: Married: 10 October 1861, Pambula, District of Eden, NSW

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

DOLAN

Subject: Re: Honorah DOLAN

On 28/09/2014 17:03, Gail Buswell wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I was just browsing RootsWeb at:

>

> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=monaropionee

> rs&id=I297378

> [1]

>

> which seems to be linked to "The Monaro Pioneers Project - Pioneers

> and Settlers Database" and gives this email address as the contact.

>

> Honora DOLAN was born Honora DWYER on 26 October 1850 in Dunderaligo,

> Yass to parents William DWYER (a squatter) and Mary (nee BARTLEY).

>

> She first married Patrick DOLAN on 4 May 1870 and had 3 children with

> him before being widowed upon his death in 1875.

>

> She then married James DUFFY on 26 Dec 1877.

>

> If you'd like further info, please don't hesitate to contact me back

> and let me know what info you would like.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Gail Buswell

>

> Jamberoo, NSW

Hi Gail,

Thank you for letting us know.  We would be most appreciative of any addition detail you can provide on Patrick Dolan, particularly his birth and death dates/places and parents plus everything you can regarding his descendants.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian,

I hope the information below is of use to you and the Monaro Pioneers Project. Where I've mentioned below, I can provide further information. I notice you need a log in to access the Monaro Pioneers Project, would I be able to get one of these so I can look at other information you have. You may already have a lot of info on Patrick's maternal grandparents Garret MALLON and Winifred COSTELLO, I'd like to see how much you have - otherwise I can send you quite a bit.

Cheers,  Gail

Patrick DOLAN

Patrick DOLAN was born in Drumnee (around 5 miles from Ballymahon), Newtowncashel parish, County Longford, Ireland to parents James DOLAN and Bridget (nee MALLON). He was baptised on 22 Jan 1834 and his sponsors were Patrick DOLAN and Mary COSTELLO.

James DOLAN (Patrick's father) died on 10 March 1848 in Ireland.

Patrick immigrated to the Colony of NSW with his mother, Bridget DOLAN (nee

MALLON) aboard the "Rodney". They arrived on 18 Mar 1854.

As mentioned below, he married Honora DWYER and they had 3 children:

- Patrick (born 1874),

- Mary Martha (born 1871)

- Anne (born 1873)

I can give you info on all three children if you wish.

Patrick's occupation is listed as "Farmer" on his marriage and death certificate. Greville's 1872 Post Office Directory has Patrick and his brother Thomas listed as farmers at Boomer's Creek near Tangmangaroo (Yass).

Patrick died at Bowning, near Yass, on 21 July 1875. He was buried on 23 July 1875 in the Catholic Cemetery, Yass.

If you are interested I can email you immigration records, marriage certificate, and death certificate.

Bridget MALLON

Bridget MALLON (Patrick DOLAN's mother) was born circa 1813-1818 in County Longford, Ireland to parents Garret MALLON and Winifred (nee COSTELLO).

Bridget married James DOLAN on 14 Apr 1833 in Drumnee. Bridget and James had the following children:

- Patrick (above)

- Mary (born 1836)

- Thomas (born 1838)

- Ann (born 1840)

- Peter (born 1842)

I can give you further info on these children if you wish.

The family resided in Ballymahon, County Longford before Bridget's husband James, died on 10 Mar 1848. Following his death she applied to immigrate to Australia as her parents were in Australia (her father had been sent out as a convict).

Immigration details are above. On her immigration papers, Bridget was listed as a housekeeper who had a mother, 2 brothers and a sister residing in Yass.

Bridget remarried James MURPHY on 18 Oct 1855 in Yass Catholic Church.

If you are interested I can email you immigration records for Bridget and her other children, marriage entry from NSW BDM and further details on her parents Garret MALLON and Winifred (nee COSTELLO).

Hi Gail,

Thank you for the information.  I am happy to receive as much information on this family as you are able to provide.  Our database does enable us to include images of individuals and certificates if you can also provide them.

The registration process to access our database is quite simple and easy to do, it is an automated process which you can undertake on-line.  We require a userid and password to access the information we have to protect the privacy of any living individuals.

Regards,  Ian

From: GJ Bigpond
Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 10:15 PM
Subject: MY MEMORIES OF COOMA

Hi Ian 

my name is Grahame James and I have created a page called My memories of Cooma and was wondering if you would like to be a part of our new found group . I feel that your input would be a great benefit the 27 members who have currently joined. I thought having you on board would bring together the people of the Cooma Region and the history of the areas of the Region. 

Kind Regards,  Grahame James

Hi Grahame,

Thanks for the offer, perhaps you might care to expand on the objectives of your group and what your webpage will contain?

I personally have no connection with Cooma but perhaps our Newsletter readers might be interested in your endeavour.

Regards,  Ian

LITTLEY

On 26/09/2014 18:05, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Littley,  Betty Patricia (I41755)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I41755&tree=MP

>

> Description: PLATTS BETTY PATRICIA

> of Stonehenge, Bombala

> Passed away in Canberra Hospital

> on Saturday 2nd September 2014

> Wife of Norman(dec.1987) Mother of Tony (dec.1997), survived by her

> daughter Anne and partner Kelly and grandchildren Ciara & Reece.

> There will be a private cremation in Canberra. Her garden at

> Stonehenge will be open for a celebration of her life. Date to be

> advised

>

> ANNOUNCEMENTS : DEATH NOTICES

> 10/09/2014 Bombala Times

>

> Gregory McInnes

> Paul Fergus

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

ECCLESTON

On 26/09/2014 16:59, Paul Fergus wrote:

> Proposed Change: Eccleston,  George (I66793)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I66793&tree=MP

>

> Description: Dear Ian

> I would like to propose changes to the information about the marriage

> of George Eccleston and Catherine Curtis.  I have downloaded two

> reports of their marriage, both dated Thursday, 24 January 1833

> (Trove: the Sydney Herald http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12846122

> and the Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser

> http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2210490) which make it clear that

> Rev J J Therry married them in Parramatta and not in St Mary's Church,

> Sydney.

> No doubt, the records of their marriage were held in St Mary's Church,

> Sydney which would have been the principal repository for Catholic

> births, deaths and marriages records at the time which may explain why

> someone thought they were married in St Mary's Church.

> Both reports provide the additional interesting information that

> George Eccleston lived in Field of Mars and Catherine Curtis lived on

> Parramatta Road.  Given where they lived, their marriage in Parramatta

> would have been more convenient for them.

>

> Paul Fergus

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

On 24/09/2014 18:16, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Cootes,  Horace (I84098)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84098&tree=MP

>

> Description: Military: Voluntary Enlisted in the Militia Forces 26th

> June 1939 Army No. N482028

> Unit: 1st Divisional Signals, No 3 Coy "L"

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

On 24/09/2014 17:52, Gregory McInnes wrote:

  Proposed Change: Cootes,  Edward Francis (I10726)

  Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

  Link:

http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10726&tree=MP

>

  Description: Baptised: 18 July 1906 at St Matthias' Church of England,

  Bombala, NSW

  Marriage Note:

  Bombala Times       Friday 4 October 1929 pg 4

                  Wedding

                COOTES-RAYNER.

     At St. Matthias Church, Bombala, on the 25th September, the Rev. S.

Broadfoot solemnised the marriage of Elizabeth Marie (Bessie), third daughter of Mr. and Mrs. G. S. Rayner, Bombala, to Edward Francis Cootes, son of Mr. and Mrs. Charles Cootes, Bombala.

     The bride, who was given away by her father, was wearing a very pretty frock of white georgette, early Victorian style, being worn long at the back embroided in pastel shades. She carried a beautiful bouquet of white stocks, pale pink carnations and hyacinths.

     The bride was attended by Miss Una Paxton, who wore a pretty gown of pale blue Taffeta, and carried a sheaf of pink stocks and sweat peas.

Also four little flower girls : Joan Stevenson, niece of the bridegroom ; Muriel Rayner, sister of the bride, wearing pink dresses with hat to match and carrying baskets of pale pink stocks ; and Norma and Rae Turner, little twin nieces of the bride, dressed in pale blue and carrying baskets of sweat peas.

     The bridegroom was attended by Mr. W. Kilkenny.

     The Church was prettily decorated by friends of the bride, the flowers being brought from Sydney by Mrs. Lance Robey, cousin of the bride.

     The bride's mother received the guests (which numbered 100) in a gown of navy reversible satin, at the School of Arts Bombala.

     The bridegroom's gift to the bride was a diamond brooch, also an oak tray bearing the bride's initials. The bride's gift to the bridegroom was a gold chain. The bridegroom's present to the bridesmaid was a diamond ring, and the little flower girls received wristlet watches and signet rings.

     Many presents were received, including a number of cheques.

     Mr. and Mrs. Cootes left by train for Sydney where the honeymoon will be spent, the bride wearing a navy blue ensemble suit, with hat to match.

  Notes:

  Delegate Argus   Thursday 27 May 1926 pg 3

  Roundabout.

  (FROM OUR CORRESPONDENTS)

  Bombala.

  A fire broke out in the building in Maybe Street occupied by Mr. E. Cootes as a baker on Monday night at about nine o'clock. When the alarm was given the room in the middle of the place was well alight. This room was occupied by Mr. Douglas as part of his living rooms, Mr. Douglas being the baker employed by Mr. Cootes.

  About three quarters of an hour before Mr. Cootes had gone to a dance at Cathcart and Mr. and Mrs. Douglas had gone out of town to a friend's place, and there was no one in the house when the fire was noticed. A big crowd soon assembled and willing workers with buckets of water managed to save the adjoining premises, but the baker's shop and the butcher's shop in the same premises, occupied by Messrs. M'Kay Brothers, were completely destroyed. One wall of the 'Times" Office and part of the front were destroyed, and the stock was a good deal damaged by water and dirt. The whole of the 'Times" plant and machinery were carried out, and apart from the damage to the stock there was not much loss, excepting that of the building. Messrs. M'Kay Brothers were uninsured and their loss is severe, running into at least ?soo. Mr. Cootes and Mr. Douglas were covered by insurance, as was also the building, which was owned by Mr. Anthony Bastany. The 'Times" Office and plant were insured, but the insurance was light and had the whole been destroyed the loss to the owner, Mr. W. Tweedie, would have been severe. A good deal of damage was done to the stock in the premises on the other side of the burning building, and which were tenanted by Mr Smith and Miss. Ellison,  Mssrss M'Kay, and Mr.C. Williams.

  The Bombala Times Friday 28 May 1926

  I DESIRE to Sincerely Thank all those who gave assistance at the Fire on Monday night, and to announce that I am carrying on business temporarily in M. KILKENNY'S Shop.

          E. F. COOTES.

  Delegate Argus Thursday 3 April 1930 pg 2

           BOMBALA

     One of the local bakeries has changed hands, Mr E. Cootes having sold out to Messrs. Torpey Brothers.

  Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

On 23/09/2014 22:12, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Cootes,  Charles William (I11324)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11324&tree=MP

>

> Description: Baptised: 28 May 1899 in St Matthias' Church of England,

> Bombala, NSW

>

> Notes Military:

> Service Record

> Name:                          COOTES, CHARLES WILLIAM

> Service:               Australian Army Service

> Number:                      NX60215

> Date of Birth:                 1 Jan 1900

> Place of Birth:                BOMBALA, NSW

> Date of Enlistment:         11 Jul 1940

> Locality on Enlistment:     BOMBALA, NSW

> Place of Enlistment:         GOULBURN, NSW

> Next of Kin:                   COOTES, CHARLES

> Date of Discharge: 7 Feb 1944

> Rank:                           Private

> Posting at Discharge:       2/1 Battalion

> WW2 Honours and Gallantry:      None for display

> Prisoner of War:             No

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

On 23/09/2014 21:48, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Cootes,  Arthur Henry (I11327)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11327&tree=MP

>

> Description: Baptised: 7 December 1892 in St Matthias' Church of

> England, Bombala, NSW

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

On 23/09/2014 21:42, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Cootes,  Amy Constance (I84076)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84076&tree=MP

>

> Description: Notes

>

> 17/10/1924 Town Property Sale-P.J. Jonas has received instructions

> from Mrs Tracey to offer for sale, by public auction, on Thursday,

> 23rd October at 2pm-The Globe Hotel and Council Chambers properties,

> situated in the centre of the main street in Bombala. The properties

> together have a frontage of 118 feet to Maybe Street and a depth of

> 330 feet. The hotel building is constructed of brick and weatherboard,

> and contains 14 bedrooms, 4 parlours, bar, dining room, kitchen,

> garage, stabling, and all other conviences, subject to present lease,

> which has 6 years to run. The building known as the Council Chambers

> is a two-storey brick building on a stone foundation, and contains

> eight rooms, let as offices to the Municipal and Shire Councils and

> P.P. Board.

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

On 23/09/2014 21:35, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Cootes,  Amy Constance (I84076)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84076&tree=MP

>

> Description: Baptised: 4 October 1868, Parish of Bombala, County of

> Wellesley, NSW

>

> Died in the District Hospital, Pambula, NSW

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

On 23/09/2014 21:30, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Cootes,  Albert Edward (I324956)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I324956&tree=MP

>

> Description: Born: Richmond Hospital, NSW

> Died: Moruya Hospital, NSW

> Married: Pamela May Lyon, 17 December 1966 at St Luke's Church of

> England, Wakool, NSW

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2014 9:22 PM
Subject: Proposed Changes: COOTES, Edith Edna I10744

Ian

Proposed Change: Cootes, Edith Edna (I10744)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10744&tree=MP

Description:   

Attached            Marriage certificate transcript for Edith Edna Cootes and Alfred Mason

Regards, Gregory

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2014 9:15 PM
Subject: Proposed Changes: COOTES, Charles Wiliam I11324

Ian

Proposed Change: Cootes, Charles William (I11324)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11324&tree=MP

Description:   

Attached            Birth certificate transcript  for Charles William Cootes

Regards, Gregory

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2014 9:07 PM
Subject: Proposed Changes: COOTES, Charles James I10731

Ian

Proposed Change: Cootes, Charles James (I10731)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10731&tree=MP

Description:   

Notes Military

WWI AIF Nominal Roll Details:

Regimental No:                 2617

Place of Birth:                    Bombala, NSW

School:                                 State School

Rank on enlistment:       Private,

Age at embarkation:       22

Occupation:                        Tailor

Marital Status:                   Single

Address at date of enlistment: Cathcart via Bombala, NSW,

Next of Kin:                        Father, S Cootes, Cathcart via Bombala, NSW

Religion:                               CofE

Date of Enlistment:         05.08.1916

Unit Name:                         20th Battalion, 6th Reinforcement

Rate of Pay (before embarkation) per diem 5s , After embarkation 5 s per day of which 3 s allotted in Aust, 1s per day additional paid on completion of service.

Fate:                                      Died of wounds 3 April 1917

Roll of Honour

Date of Death: 3 April 1917

Rank: Lance Corporal

Unit: 56th Battalion Australian Infantry

Cause of Death: Died of Wounds

Cemetery or Memorial Details: FRANCE 832 Pozieres British Cemetery Ovillers-La-Boisselle

War Grave Register Notes: COOTES Lce Cpl. Charles James, 2617. 56th Bn. Australian Inf. Died of Wounds 3rd April 1917. Age 24. Son Samuel Charles and Elizabeth Cootes, of Cathcart, New South Wales. Native of Bombala, New South Wales. II. D. 17.

Source: AWM145 Roll of Honour Cards, 1914-1918 War, Army

Notes Death

Delegate Argus Thursday 3 May 1917 pg 2

The Roll of Honour.

Private C. J. Cootes, whom, last week we briefly reported as having died of wounds, was a son of Mr, and Mrs. Sam. Cootes, of Cathcart, who also have two other sons at the front. He was only quite a young man, and will be remembered by many Delegate people, as he worked here in the tailoring trade for a long time with Mr. C. C. Price. Of the devil-may-care style, who have made Australia famous, he was just the sort to make a fighter, and was a fine young follow in every other respect. He heard the call early in the war, and was delighted to have had the chance to do his bit. Poor Charlie has done it and done it well, and though we all deplore his death and sympathise with his sorrowing parents it is a consolation to know that he died as he would have wished — in the fight for home and liberty.

The Bombala Times Friday 29 March 1918 pg 1

                  ROLL OF HONOR.

In loving memory of Lnce Corporal; C. J. Cootes, died from wounds at Pozieres on 3rd April, 1917.

                If Thou shouldst call me to resign

                What most I prize, it ne're was mine,

                I ony yield This what is Thine,

                Thy will be done.

Inserted by his loving Father, Mother, Sisters, and Brothers.

Attached            Birth certificate transcript for Charles James Cootes

Regards, Gregory

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: Proposed Changes: COOTES, Arthur Henry I11327

Ian

Proposed Change: Cootes, Arthur Henry (I11327)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11327&tree=MP

Description:   

Attached            Birth, Marriage & Death certificate for Cootes, Arthur Henry

Regards, Gregory

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2014 8:41 PM
Subject: Proposed Changes: COOTES, Amy Constance I84076

Ian

Proposed Change: Cootes, Amy Constance (I84076)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84076&tree=MP

Description:   

Attached            Birth, Marriage & Death certificate for Cootes, Amy

Regards, Gregory

Thanks Gregory,

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2014 8:26 PM
Subject: Proposed Changes: COOTES, Albert I10742

Ian

Proposed Change: Cootes, Albert (I10742)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10742&tree=MP

Description:   

Attached            Birth, Marriage and Death transcripts for Cootes, Albert

Regards, Gregory

Thanks Gregory,

The birth transcription you attached was for Maud Mary Cootes, not Albert.

Regards,  Ian

COOTES

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2014 8:18 PM
Subject: Proposed Changes: COOTES, Albert I84077

Ian

Proposed Change: Cootes, Albert (I84077)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84077&tree=MP

Description:   

Baptized:                    10 July 1878, St Matthias Church of England, Bombala, NSW                    

Died:                           In his hut, Jincumbilly nr Bombala, NSW                                        

Attached                            Birth & Death certificate for Albert Cootes

Notes:

The Bombala Times (NSW) Friday 12 May 1916 (page 1)

Prte. Albert Cootes writes us from West Maitland to say that he has been transferred to that camp from Goulburn, and has been chosen as one of a party to shortly go to the front. He expects shortly to be home on final leave.

The Bombala Times (NSW) Friday 19 April 1918 (page 6)

Personal.

Pte. Al. Cootes has returned to Bombala, having been invalided home as the result of a gas attack in France.

The Bombala Times Friday 19 July 1929 pg 1

RETURN THANKS

I WISH to return my sincere THANKS to Dr. Jefferis, and the Matron and Staff of the Bombala Hospital, for their skilful and kindly attention to me during the eleven weeks I was in the Hospital, as I feel that I owe my life to their services whilst I was a patient.

ALBERT COOTES.

Delegate Argus Thursday 26 November 1936 pg 2

BOMBALA

Mr. Albert Cootes, a returned soldier, was found dead in his bed in a hut at Jincumbilly on Sunday morning. He had been a patient in the Bombala Hospital for a few days and had returned to his hut on Saturday afternoon. Deceased was gassed at the war, and this weakened his heart. He was 61 years of age and a native of the district, having lived here all his life. Lately he had been employed by Mr. Alex Bartley.

The Bombala Times Friday 27 November 1936 pg 1

DEATHS

With flag-draped coffin the last remains of Mr. Albert Cootes were carried by returned soldiers to the resting place in the Bombala cemetery on Monday last. After the impressive service of the Church of England had been read by the Rev. E. M. Cutcliffe the "Last Post" was sounded by Mr. Arthur Beileiter.  Mr Cootes was a victim of gas in the Great War, and since, his return to Australia, and his home district of Bombala he was a frequent sufferer from the effects of the gas. At the time of his death he was working at Ando for Mr. Alex. Bartley, and last week he came to the Bombala Hospital for treatment. He left the Hospital on Saturday afternoon and went to his hut at Ando, where he lived by himself. On Sunday morning Mr. Pattrick, who lives nearby, and knowing that he was sick, went to see how he

was, and found him lying dead in bed, having passed away peacefully in the night. His brother, Mr. Charles Cootes, was informed, and

he went out and made arrangements for the interment, the returned soldiers assisting at the obsequies.

The deceased was a single man, son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Charles Cootes, and brother of Mr. Charles Cootes, of this town, Mrs. S. Trevanion, Mila, and Mrs. P. Tracey,  Eden.

Regards, Gregory

Thank you Gregory,

Regards,  Ian

LOCKHART

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2014 12:28 PM

Subject: Proposed Changes: LOCKHART, David I106124 & Delitha I42482

Ian

Proposed Change: Lockhart, David (I106124) & Delitha (142482)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84080&tree=MP

Description:   

Attached            Baptism  transcripts for David and Delitha

Please note that the Baptism record for Delitha has her first name as DORITHEA

Regards, Gregory

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

LOCKHART

From: Gregory McInnes

Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2014 5:52 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Lockhart, Joseph (I106125)

Proposed Change: Lockhart,  Joseph (I106125)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I106125&tree=MP

Description: Born: c1816, Ireland

Died: 3 March 1874 at Wolumla, NSW

Buried: 5 March 1874, Wolumla Cemetery

The Argus (Melbourne) Monday 6 April 1874

EXTRAORDINARY SUICIDE IN NEW SOUTH WALES.

(from The Southern Standard)

An inquest was held at Wolumla on Wednesday, the 4th March, before Dr Shiels, coroner on view of the body of Joseph Lockhart, at his Iate residence, Wolumla.

Robert Gordon, having been sworn, stated that he had occasion to pass through deceased's farm yesterday afternoon. Had some conversation with deceased. Asked him how he was. Deceased replied, "Not very well, but I am very glad you have come or some one else for I am going to shoot myself this night. I have the gun all ready." Told deceased to pray to God for his blessing, and his mind would be changed from such thoughts. He told me he had been doing so for the last month. He said he was tired of living, and meant to put an end to his life. I asked him to get his horse, and go with me to my brother Simon's. He said he would not, that this was his last night, and that should you hear a shot after you get over the hill you will know I am dead. He asked me to be sure and send some one in the morning, as he vvould be sure to be dead. VVhen I saw him so determined I tried to borrow the gun, but he would not let me have it. We then had a conversation about a heifer. Deceased walked with me from the house to the stock yard a distance of 85 yards, and assisted me to put the heifer in the yards. He offered to sell me the beast for £7. I offered him five guineas, but he would not take less than seven. I told him to go and get a bucket and milk the heifer. He went down to the house. He remained about two minutes in the house. I was still on horseback at the stockyard, and could see the house.

He (the deceased) came out of the house with a gun in his hand. He called out to me, "These are my last moments." He was then trying to draw the trigger of the gun against a prop at the corner of the house, the muzzle of the gun being against his bowels. I called out to him to stop a moment, beckoning him to stop. I was then in the act of riding to where he was. When

36 yards from him, I saw him stoop over the gun and draw the trigger, and instantly heard a report, and saw the gun fall on the ground, and deceased placed his hands over his bowels, and cried out, "Oh God, put me out of pain. Deceased was still standing. I did not go any nearer, but immediately turned my horse's head, and galloped to my brother Simon's place, about a mile distant. My brother and another man returned with me immediately, and we found deceased Iying on the ground at the spot where I saw him fire the gun. My brother started to report the matter to the police at Bega, and get a doctor. I asked deceased what caused him to do this, and he replied, "I told you before that I was thired of my life." I saw him get up from the ground, and walk into the house and lie down in bed. He appeared quite sensible, and could speak plainly. I was present when he died.

David Lockhart stated, on oath - I am the son of deceased. Iast night, about

9 o'clock, I was informed that my father had shot himself. I started at once on horseback. I found my father inside the house in a kneeling position on the floor. I asked him why he did this, and he replied, "Davy, I have made my will, and Mr. Peck holds it." I said again, "why did you do this?" and he replied, "Because I am tired of my life.

To Coroner.  - I saw my father between 11 and 12 noon, same day, at Scott's public house. He was then what I call pretty groggy. I started him home. I have heard that, three or four years ago, my father attempted to poison himself after drinking. Deceased was about 58 years of age, and has lived alone on this farm for the last l8 months.

Dr. Evershed made a post mortum examination, and stated that he found a wound in the abdominal wall about an inch in diameter, two inches from the navel, on the left side, through which was protuding a portion of the omentum. Found a hole in the intestines and stomach, as if made by shot.

Found several Iarge shot in the abdominal cavity, and was of opinion that death was caused by the injuries to the intestines and stomach, and the great loss of blood.

The jury returned the following verdict:  - "That deceased came to his death by discharging the contents of a loaded gun into his body, on Tuesday, 3rd day of March, 1874 while labouring under a fit of temporary insanity brought on by excessive drinking of spirituous liquors."

This article also appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald, Monday 30 March 1874, and in the Queanbeyan Age, Saturday 4th April 1874 under the heading:

EXTRAORDINARY AND DETERMINED SUICIDE

Gregory McInnes

Thank you Gregory,

Very sobering!

Regards,  Ian

ELDRIDGE

From: Robert G Eldridge

Sent: Friday, 19 September 2014 2:07 PM

Subject: Jeremiah Eldridge research

Hello Ian,

I write specifically in reference to the Web page at http://www.monaropioneers.com/eldridge-j.htm

I am primarily trying to find why it is widely claimed that Jeremiah Eldridge was born in Seven Oaks, Kent. Presently I can only find references to Kent with nothing more specific than that. I recently purchased transcripts of the birth registration for Jeremiah's son Edward born 1856 and his last child born in 1874 and they both only show his birth place as Kent.

I have today emailed Sue Grieves, Carole Wheeler and Michael Povey using the email addresses shown on the Web page and I ask if you have an email address for Michelle Ambrosini, who has also contributed to this page, then if you can forward this email to them I would appreciate it.

I am aware that Pat Freebody died in the past year or so and emails to her husband Fred go unanswered.

Please feel free to give me a phone call if that's easier.

Regards,  Robert G. Eldridge

Hi Robert,

We don't have an email address for Michelle.

Regards,  Ian

WELLSMORE

On 17/09/2014 23:40, Kerry Donaghy wrote:

> Proposed Change: Wellsmore,  Caroline Elenor (I3974)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I3974&tree=MP

>

> Description: Cause of Death - Article in the Catholic Press stated

> that Caroline went to Cooma to have some teeth extracted but became

> ill and was taken to Cooma Hospital where she subsequently died of

> heart failure.

>

> Kerry Donaghy

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

KELLY

From: Peter Kelly [mailto:peterkell@bigpond.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2014 5:32 PM
To: iansharvey@bigpond.com
Subject: Kelly Family The willows & Mt Cassidy

Ian,

Few years on I have just read below Michael & Florence where my Grandparents .  Please pass on my email address.

KELLY

From: Timone Craperi 
Sent: Monday, 1 January 2007 1:16 AM
Subject: Peter kelly

Att. Ian Harvey,

I am researching Michelago Kelly family history.  My grandparents were Alban and Maud Kelly. I am son of Patrick Kelly and my great grandparents were John and Bridget Kelly, of Mt Cassidy.  

I have seen the information from another Peter Kelly, son of Micheal and Florence. Micheal was brother to Alban, my grandfather.

Could you please list this information. I would appreciate any contact  by email if there are interested members of the family.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Peter Kelly.

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

Hi Peter,

Unfortunately, we no longer have a contact email address but we can include your email in the latest newsletter.

Regards,Ian

From: Jane Ison

Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2014 8:01 AM

Subject: Comments

Comments: Hi Ian,

Although I don't have any ancestors in the Eden Monaro area my local research project is taking me there often. I am actually attempting to use a variety of sites to assist in eliminating the families of 'my girls' (those sent to the Newcastle Industrial School).

Once my workload decreases I will contribute if that is OK but in the meantime you might like to investigate some of their lives on nis.wikidot.com

Jane (Ison)

Thanks Jane,

Regards,  Ian

McNEE

On 16/09/2014 17:39, Margaret Anderson wrote:

> Proposed Change: Family: McNee,  James/McDonald,  Margaret Christina

> (F879)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F879&tree=MP

>

> Description: James McNee died 11 October 1952 in Sandgate, Queensland

>

> Margaret Anderson

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

McNEE

On 16/09/2014 17:38, Margaret Anderson wrote:

> Proposed Change: Family: McNee,  James/McDonald,  Margaret Christina

> (F879)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F879&tree=MP

>

> Description: Margaret Christina McNee (nee McDonald) Died 20 November

> 1961 in Sandgate, Queensland

>

> Margaret Anderson

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

HAYDEN

From: Carlene Harris
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2014 8:55 AM
Subject: Final Cathcart Gravestones

James Hayden – died  25/3/1896 aged 51 years

& Elizabeth Hayden – died 6/6/1928, buried 7/6/1928 aged 78 years

Mary Ann Hayden – died 25/1/1855 aged 35 years (looks like 33 but she was born in late 1919 – she was aged 3 on the General Muster of 1822, 6 in 1825 and 9 in 1828)

I have other photo’s which I have taken in Delegate, Bombala, Nimmitabel, Eden, Pambula, Bega, and Orbost Victoria while searching for my own relatives, mostly which are people on the Monaro Pioneers Website.

I will forward these over the next couple of weeks.

Cheers Carlene

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

TAYLOR/YEADON

From: Carlene Harris
Sent: Monday, 15 September 2014 1:08 PM
Subject: 15th lot of Cathcart Gravestones

Vivian Bede Taylor – died 6/9/1942 aged 56 years

Charles Frederick Yeadon – died 22/11/1918 aged 65 years

& Sarah wife of the above – died 14/9/1912

Just a few to go.

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

STOVE

From: Carlene Harris
Sent: Monday, 15 September 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: 14th lot of Cathcart Gravestones

James Stove – died 26/11/1957 aged 72 years – 2139 Private, 35th Battalion

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

STEWART

From: Carlene Harris
Sent: Monday, 15 September 2014 10:37 AM
Subject: 13th lot of Cathcart Gravestoves

Clyde O. S. Stewart – died 19/4/1941 aged 58 years

William John Stewart – died 10/03/1950 aged 70 years

Archibald Stewart – died 16/4/1919 aged 81 years

Cameron C. Stewart – died 5/4/1915 aged 23 years – 33rd Batt. A.I.F., Signaller – died of wounds in France

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

MADDEN/MARSHALL/DOWNEY

From: Carlene Harris
Sent: Sunday, 14 September 2014 9:27 AM
Subject: 10th lot of Cathcart Cemetery

Daniel Madden, native of Co. Limerick, Ireland – died 14/7/1906 aged 71 years ( will need to redo this one sorry)

Mary Madden – died 24/10/1914 aged 65 years

Gerard Thomas Marshall – died 7/1/1949

& Mary Downey – died 12/1/1954 – infant

Ian if there are any photo’s that I haven’t given information for please let me know.  There are many that don’t appear on the list I have as it was transcribed in 1981.  I believe there is a new version of the book at my Genealogical Society, so will check it out.

Thanks Carlene,

I have been able to link most of your images to the correct individuals in our database.  You can see them all by using the cemetery search option in the database.

Regards,  Ian

FULTON/GERATHY

From: Carlene Harris
Sent: Sunday, 14 September 2014 8:56 AM
To: Ian Harvey
Subject: 8th lot of Cathcart Cemetery

Hannah Fulton – 1852 – 19/3/1926

John Fulton – 1844 – 14/9/1936

James Joseph Gerathy – died 1/10/1915 aged 72 years (will redo this one as well)

Michael J. Gerathy – died 18/12/1934 aged 76 years

& wife Esther – died 21/6/1954 aged 96 years

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

FOLEY

From: Carlene Harris
Sent: Sunday, 14 September 2014 8:41 AM
Subject: 7th lot of Cathcart Cemetery

Sorry about the Daniel & Mary gravestone I will get another photo next time.

Daniel Foley – died 20/9/1891 aged 42 years

& wife Mary Foley – died 15/1/1910 aged 54 years

James Foley – died 29/3/1905 aged 72 years

& son Weston Michael – died 20/10/1901 aged 21 years

& George Thomas, son of W. and E, Foley – died 27/11/1916 aged 3 years

John Allen Foley – died 3/8/1979 aged 62 years

Robert W. Foley – died 17/6/1973 aged 64 years

William G. Foley – died 28/5/1961 aged 84 years

& Ellen E. M. Foley – died 21/7/1970 aged 84 years

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

POWER

From: Gina Power
Sent: Saturday, 13 September 2014 10:43 PM
Subject: Big Thank You

Dear Monaro Pioneers,

I wish to thank you and all those who have contributed to this site. 

I too have been building my family tree and am a direct descendant of one of the Power Clan Branches 

I have not yet had to "Pay" to find my family heritage. Only through sheer dogged determination, detective work and driving my family crazy have gotten thus far with my tree. 

Anstatia was my "bugbear" I couldn't work out how she fitted in but knew she was only part of the picture.

By sheer dumb luck I stumbled upon your site when researching a Michael John Power looking for his daughter Matilda Anne.  Lo and behold there was Anstatia!

So thank you again, another piece to the puzzle put into place...... a few more to go.

I will endeavor to help out in any way I can.

Sincere thanks,  Regina Power

Thank you Regina, we are delighted you have found our site beneficial.  There has been hundreds of contributors whose generosity has made the Monaro Pioneers Database possible and without them we would all be "paying to find our heritage".

We look forward to receiving any assistance you can provide.

Regards,  Ian

BAKER/BLAGRAVE/BOURKE

From: Carlene Harris
Sent: Saturday, 13 September 2014 9:55 AM
Subject: Cathcart Graves

Hi Ian,

Giving you information on those photo’s not clearly readable.  I have a list of the Cathcart Cemetery from the book “Monumental Inscriptions Monaro” counties of Beresford, Wallace and Wellesley by the Heraldry and Genealogy Society of Canberra 1982. 

Unfortunately I didn’t manage to get photo’s of all the gravestones due to camera problems.  On my next visit down south I will endeavour to get a photo of the ones I missed.

William Baker - died 21/11/1919 aged 73 years

Mary Guenievere Blagrave – born 22/11/1901, died 10/5/1909, daughter of J.C. & C.F. Blagrave

Emily Bourke – died 18/10/1926 aged 89 years

I will the remaining photo’s over the next few days.

Cheers Carlene

Thank you Carlene,

Regards,  Ian

THOMAS

From: brett frost
Sent: Friday, 12 September 2014 4:31 PM
Subject: kiandra cemetery

Hello, you have done a great job with the cemetery list, thankyou it has been a big help to me. My GGG Grandmother  was buried in Kiandra, could I have her added to your list. on her death certificate it reads’. MARY THOMAS  BURIED AT KIANDRA 19 SEP 1886.BORN 1813 CORK IRELAND.

REGARDS BRETT FROST

Hi Brett,

Thank you for the information, I will update our records accordingly.

Regards,  Ian

JOHNSON

From: Ro Boersma
Sent: Friday, 12 September 2014 3:19 PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers Database - Samuel (Bongamin) Benjamin JOHNSON

Dear Ian,

I believe I have more records to add to your wonderful database.

ID: I148264

Name: Samuel Bongamin JOHNSON

Given Name: Samuel Bongamin

Surname: Johnson

Sex: M

Birth: 1882 in Bega, NSW 1

Death: 1949 in Sydney, NSW 2

Edith Maud(e) Beach, (third child of William Beach, World Champion Sculler)

b. 17 Jun 1877 (23104/1877) Wollongong NSW, baptized 4 Aug 1877 in St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,

d. (29321/1952) Oberon NSW (SMH 21.04.1952 – 20 Apr 1952 age 76 Oberon NSW),

m. (5017/1900) Wollongong NSW, Samuel Benjamin Johnson, b. (15398/1882) Bega NSW,

d. (1497/1949) BDM has Bongamin, Sydney NSW.

Father – Father – William Xerces (Zerries) Johnson, Mother – Bridget Mary Linnegar m. (1865/1870) Bombala NSW

Children of Samuel Benjamin and Edith Maud(e)

Hazel S Johnson,

b. (8905/1900), Wollongong NSW,

d. (4041/1900) Wollongong NSW,

William Harold Johnson,

b. (18307/1901) Wollongong NSW,

d. (5742/1959) Campsie NSW (SMH 19.03.1959 –18 Mar 1959 age 58 late of Greenacre NSW)

Samuel C X Johnson,

b. (21679/1902) Eden NSW, (SMH 21.04.1952 referred to as "Mick")

Sarah (Sadie) R Mabel Johnson,

b. (35833/1903) Wollongong NSW,

d. (SMH 18.07.1983 - 16 Jul 1983, age 79, late of Bundeena NSW, formerly of Tourist Hotel Oberon NSW),

m. (57/1922) Sydney NSW, George F Kirby, b. ~1901, d. (SMH 26.09.1984 - 24 Sep 1984, age 83, late of Bundeena NSW, formerly of Oberon NSW)

Children of Sarah (Sadie) R Mabel Johnson and George F Kirby

Norma Kirby,

b. ~1923,

d. (SMH 19.03.2003 – 15 Mar 2003 age 80 late of Bundeena NSW),

m. (104/1944) Sydney NSW Poul Verner Larsen, (BDM has Paul Varner)

b. ~1917, d. (SMH 15.07.2003 – 13 Jul 2003 age 86 at Sutherland Hospital Sutherland NSW.

Children of Norma Kirby and Poul/Paul Verner Larsen

Sari Larsen, b., d., m. Rik (e) (SMH 18.07.1983)

Erik (Ben) Norman Larsen,

b.~1950,

d. (Daily Telegraph (Sydney) 10.11.2010 – 07 Nov 2010 age 60 suddenly late of Kincumber NSW Funeral 11 Nov 2010 St. Pauls Anglican Ministry Centre corner Avoca Drive and Empire Bay Drive Kincumber NSW),

m. Kris ? (Daily Telegraph (Sydney) 10.11.2010)

Francis George Beach Johnson,

b. (42053/1907) Wollongong NSW BDM has mother Ethel M,

d. (30096/1943) Petersham NSW,

m. (8173/1931) Sydney NSW, Kathleen E South/Southern (BDM has both names)

Harry A Johnson,

b. (39511/1911) Dapto NSW, (SMH 21.04.1952 "Alex"),

d. (St George & Sutherland Leader 26.10.2010    – 25 Oct 2010  'Herb' age 89, late of Cronulla NSW, formerly of Bundeena NSW)

Bernard Clarence Johnson,

b. ~1914,

d. (10170/1923) Annandale NSW (SMH 20.08.1923 age 9, at Royal Alexandra Hospital for Children Camperdown NSW

Edna May Johnson,

b., unknown

d. unknown

m. (8414/1946) Sydney NSW Charles Desmond John Thomas, b. (14254/1911) Camperdown NSW, d. (20547/1975) NSW (SMH 05.08.1975 – 04 Aug 1975 late of 14 Marmion Street Camperdown NSW Funeral Woronora Crematorium 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW ashes collected)

Kind regards,  Rosemary Boersma

Thank you Rosemary,

Regards,  Ian

Dear Ian,

I have just discovered that you already have William Beach, as the father of George Hill Beach.

ID: I282383

Name: William BEACH

Given Name: William

Surname: Beach

Sex: M

Birth: 6 Sep 1850 in Surrey, England

Death: 28 Jan 1935 in Brownsville near Dapto, NSW 1

Burial: St. Luke's Church of England Cemetery, Brownsville, NSW 2

(Courier Mail 29 Jan 1935 resided Champion Cottage Brownsville Dapto NSW)

Father - Alexander Richard Beach, b, 5 Jan 1822 Chertsey Surrey England, baptized: 3 Feb 1822 Chertsey Surrey England, d. 7 Dec 1870 Kangaroo Flat Vic (inquest 9,10,17 Dec 1870 Gunn's Hotel Kangaroo Flat Vic), m. 2 Nov 1844, Saint Marylebone, Middlesex England Mary Gibbons b: 1823 Abingdon Berkshire England d. (72801/1866) Wollongong NSW (BDM has Beech Mary, aged 43). (buried St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW, (in Goldsmith grave) headstone states d. 22 Oct 1866 age 41

It's not proven, however, we believe Alexander Beach left the district soon after his wife, Mary, died. He possibly re-married 3598/1869 BEACHALEXANDER R WHITE ANN WAGGA WAGGA

Bendigo Advertiser (Vic.); 9, 10 and 17 December 1870:

Alexander Richard Beach died Wednesday night 7th December 1870 from injuries received earlier in the day in a scuffle with Loftus Porter, a miner, in the Digger's Rest Hotel. Porter had punched Beach on the face.

A witness said that Beach had told him "Jim White and Loftus Porter had been punching him and kicking him."

Beach "was a farrier by trade and very quiet in his temper".

He was living with and working for James White of Kangaroo Gully.

The inquest was held at Gunn's Hotel, Kangaroo Flat.

Bendigo Advertiser (Vic.); Friday 17 February 1871:

Sandhurst Circuit Court.—This court was occupied for about five hours yesterday in trying the case of Loftus Porter, for the manslaughter of Alexander Beach, at Kangaroo Flat.

The jury then retired, and after a short absence returned with a verdict of not guilty, and the foreman was about to express the dissatisfaction of the jury, when His Honor refused to accept any rider or complaint.

The prisoner was acquitted.

Alexander and Mary (Gibbons)Beach  arrived in Australia as Assisted Immigrants in 1855 on board the ship "Lloyds".

State Records Office:  Alexander (33), Mary (32), Mary (9), Emma (7) and William (4),

Mary Jane Beach,

b. 1846 Paddington Middlesex England (Shipping Records),

d. (11990/1908) Wollongong NSW,

m1. (3527/1865) Wollongong NSW John Hayward,

d. (5745/1870) Ryde NSW (BDM has age 40 died Gladesville NSW)

m2 (2431/1872) Kiama NSW Thomas Cook

Emma Elizabeth Beach,

b.1848 Rochampton Surrey England,

d. 5 Dec 1932 (20101/1932) Wollongong NSW, age 83 buried St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,

m. (1870/9216) New Zealand (Family Search –‘Latter Day Saints’ 9 Aug 1870 Cromwell Otago New Zealand), William Godfrey Goldsmith,

Susan Beach,

b. (8446/1856) Wollongong NSW,

d. (8922/1883) Kiama NSW, m. (439/1879) Sydney NSW, (SMH 18 04 1879 -10 Apr 1879 St Davids' Church Surry Hills NSW by the Rev. J.D. Langley) James Richard O’Donnell, b. (2914/1857) Concord NSW, d. (4697/1935) Liverpool NSW

William Beach and Sarah Duley/Dewley were married 16 April 1873 (your database has the year, however not the day or month)

William  his wife Sarah Beach had 12 children:

Mary Emma Beach,

b. 9 Jan 1874 (12610/1874), Kiama baptized 22 Feb 1874 St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW.

d. 6 Aug 1943 (21462/1943) North Sydney NSW (SMH 09.08.1943  funeral 9 Aug 1943, cremated Northern Suburbs Crematorium Delhi Road North Ryde NSW, m. (6570/1897) Wollongong NSW, William Arthur Goldsmith, b. 13 Dec 1872 (1872/4401) New Zealand, d. 5 Jun 1941 (10661/1941) North Sydney NSW, Royal North Shore Hospital St Leonards NSW, cremated Northern Suburbs Crematorium Delhi Road North Ryde NSW,

NB. William Godfrey Goldsmith who married Emma Elizabeth Beach in Cromwell Otago New Zealand were the parents of William Arthur Goldsmith

Arnold Edward Beach,

b. 5 Jun 1875 (13188/1875), Kiama NSW, baptized 18 Jul 1875 St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,

d. (24138/1941) Richmond NSW (SMH 29.12. 1941 – 27 Dec 1941 at son Sylvester James' house Windsor Street Richmond NSW, headstone buried 29 Dec 1941 age 66 Sandgate Catholic Cemetery Pacific Highway Sandgate NSW)

m. (5296/1899) Albion Park NSW, Bridget Jordan, b.(13272/1875) (BDM has Jorden), Kiama NSW, d. (24049/1940) Newcastle NSW, 7 Nov 1940 (Ros) headstone age 64 buried 8 Nov 1940 Sandgate Catholic Cemetery Pacific Highway Sandgate NSW Father – James Jordan, Mother – Mary Crowley m. (2809/1873) Kiama NSW

Edith Maud(e) Beach refer below

Lucy Beach,

b. 25 Aug 1879 (26165/1879) (Wollongong Family History Library) Wollongong NSW, baptized 25 Sep 1879 in St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,

d. 12 Jun 1902 (7589/1902) Wollongong NSW, m1. (2436/1900) Wollongong NSW, Sydney Willis Gear, b. (21942/1875) Wollongong NSW, d. (7766/1942) Bowral NSW, (SMH 17.06.1942 -Jun 15 1942, age 66 years at Mittagong NSW  Father - George Gear, Mother - Amy Griffin, m. (3737/1870) Wollongong NSW

m2. (4138/1904) Leichhardt NSW Elizabeth Garrett, b. ~1860, d. (6528/1922) Burwood NSW (Robertson Advocate 07 Apr 1922  (suddenly) 3rd April 1922, at her residence, Arthur Street Croydon, of Mrs Elizabeth Gear, wife of Mr S W Gear. The remains were interred on 5th April 1922 Church of England Cemetery Rookwood.)

William Alexander Beach,

b. 9 Aug 1881(18927/1881) Dapto/Wollongong NSW, baptized 27 Sep 1881 St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,

d. 8 Jul, 1937 (14193/1937) Canterbury NSW (SMH 10.07.1937 – 08 Jul 1937 age 54 at Canterbury Hospital Canterbury Road Campsie NSW late of 32 Arthur Street Punchbowl NSW), buried Woronora Cemetery & Crematorium Anglican Monument 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW), m. (10122/1923) Hurstville NSW, Maud Lydia Findlay, b. 12 Dec 1890, d. (12352/1974) (SMH 20.08.1974 - 19 Aug 1974, age 83 late of Caringbah NSW buried Woronora Cemetery & Crematorium Anglican Monument 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW)

Harold James (Bluey) Beach,

b. 29 Dec 1883 Wollongong (22745/1884), baptized 16 Feb 1884 St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,

d. (10885/1928) 05 Sep 1928 Sydney/Canterbury NSW, age 43 buried 07 Sep 1928 Woronora Cemetery & Crematorium Anglican Monumental 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW m. (7887/1909) Dapto NSW, Ellen (OSarah) (Ocganna Sarah) Stevens, b. (5882/1886) Ashfield NSW, d. (34929/1963) (SMH 03.12.1963 01 Dec 1963 age 77 buried 4 Dec 1963 Woronora Cemetery & Crematorium C of E (Anglican) Monumental 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW,

Mabel (May) Peters Beach,

b. 14 Jan 1886 (24260/1886) Wollongong NSW, baptized 24 Feb 1886 St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,

d. (18000/1948) Hurstville NSW, (BDM has Mathieson) (SMH 19.07.1948 - 17 Jul 1948, age 63 buried Woronora Cemetery & Crematorium C of E (Anglican) Monumental 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW), m. (8813/1906) Sydney NSW, William Loahardt/Lochardt/Lockhart Nairn/Nairm/Nairne Mathieson/Matheson, d. (13122/1940) Sydney NSW, (

Sarah Wentworth Beach,

b. 20 Nov 1887 (25108/1887) Wollongong NSW, baptized 28 Dec 1887 St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW, d. (1078/1948) Petersham NSW, m. 1 Mar 1913 (1374/1913) St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW, Hector McDonald (Don) Ross, b. (8912/1889) Waterloo NSW, 01 Dec 1888, d. (29596/1958) Parramatta NSW, (SMH 22.10.1958 – 21.Oct 1958 at Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay NSW, late of 7 Railway Street Burwood NSW),

Frank Richard Beach,

b. 16 Sep 1889 (24520/1889) Wollongong NSW, baptized 28 Oct 1889 St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,

d. (12441/1957) Rockdale NSW, (SMH 20.06.1957 - 19 Jun 1957, age 68, buried Woronora Cemetery & Crematorium C of E (Anglican) 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW), m. (14653/1911) Sutherland NSW, Maud Pearce, b. (19981/1887) Liverpool NSW, d. (12496/1951) Rockdale NSW 18 Jun 1951 buried Woronora Cemetery & Crematorium C of E (Anglican) 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW

George Hill Beach (already on your database)

b. 29 Sep1891 (38538/1891), Wollongong NSW, baptized 5 Nov 1891 in St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW, d. (29260/1954) Paddington NSW, (SMH 11.10.1954 - Funeral 11 Oct 1954 (ashes) at Woronora Cemetery and Crematorium Woronora NSW m. (8426/1915) Sydney NSW, m. Margaret Johnson, b. ~1892 Victoria , d. (6441/1923) Paddington NSW (SMH 18.06.1923 –15 Jun 1923 age 31 Royal Hospital for Women Paddington NSW Funeral 18.06.1923 Woronora Cemetery & Crematorium C of E (Anglican) 121 Linden Street Sutherland NSW  Father – William Xerces (Zerries) Johnson, Mother – Bridget Mary Linnegar m. (1865/1870) Bombala NSW

Your database indicates that George Hill Beach married Genevieve Florence Johnson. This is incorrect (no marriage located on BDM). Genevieve Florence lived with George Hill Beach following death of her sister Margaret. Unable to marry as the C of E Anglican church didn't permit. d. (1246/1962) Sydney NSW as Florence Genevieve H Beach

Harrie (Harry) Gibbons Beach,

b. 4 May 1893 (39273/1893) (BDM has Harrie G) Wollongong NSW, baptized 1 Jun 1894 in St Luke’s C of E (Anglican) Dapto (Brownsville) NSW,  d. (35122/1965)  (BDM has Harry Gibbon) Gosford NSW, m. (8288/1924) (BDM has Harrie G )Dapto NSW, Florence L Fountain, b.(9520/1884) Waverley NSW, d. (81521/1971)  BDM has Lockie, age 90 Cooranbong Newcastle NSW

Myra Adeline Beach,

b. 22 Mar 1896 (18044/1896) Wollongong NSW,

d. (13697/1944) Wollongong NSW headstone 04 May 1944 age 48 buried St Luke's C of E (Anglican) Brownsville NSW, m. (11338/1918) Dapto NSW, William Vincent Clifford b. 17 May 1896 Dapto NSW, (18076/1896) Wollongong NSW. d. (200567/1980) NSW (SMH 04.03.1980 – 03 Mar 1980 age Albion Park NSW, buried 05 Mar 1980 St Luke's C of E (Anglican) Brownsville NSW) Father – Cornelius Clifford, Mother – Mary Duffy, m. (4332/1882) Moruya NSW 

My concern is that s the years rolled along the family moved away from the South Coast. Does the Monaro Pioneers Database wish to include the children of William and Sarah Beach's children and their children's children?

If required, I will provide details of the siblings of Sarah Beach, nee Duley/Dewley. I am a direct relative of  one of Sarah Duley/Dewley's brothers.

Kind regards,  Rosemary Boersma

Thank you Rosemary,

I am happy to add the later generations to our database if you can supply the information in a gedcom file.

Regards,  Ian

From: Ivan O'Mahoney

Sent: Friday, 12 September 2014 5:17 PM

Subject: Tv documentary query

Dear Ian, dear David,

My name is Ivan O’Mahoney. I am a Sydney based documentary filmmaker and television producer. I produced among others a four part series for ABC called Great Southern Land which included this short segment on the Snowies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ValkfzoADM&list=PLR-fqqs9YBrIHcUqaZ67wfmu7RrVPxXSG

Ever since, I have been fascinated by the building of the Snowy Hydro Scheme and am looking at developing a three part series on that subject. However, unlike other shows that have been made on the topic (and there have been quite a few), I’d like it to focus not on the

engineering but on the people, and how the influx of workers changed the face of towns like Cooma forever.

I’d like to tell the story through the eyes of those effected by the town’s instant growth, the original locals; those who worked as doctors, as

policemen, as pub, brothel or night club owners and; those who ran the banks, and those who actually settled to work on the scheme.

I am also really interested to know whether there was more to the social experiment, often heralded as the birth of multicultural Australia, then meets the eye. Most accounts have it that people from all over war ravaged Europe valiantly set their differences aside upon arrival, just to ‘get on with the job. ‘Jews and Germans, Croats and Serbs, Poles and Italians.

I can not imagine that there wouldn’t have been some serious conflict at times between individuals or even groups, who had found themselves

on opposite sides of WW II not much earlier. Whether and how that conflict was overcome, I think is an interesting part of the research.  The

question, also, I guess is whether towns like Cooma became real ‘Frontier’ towns due to the transient nature of its population post 1949.

If there are any books that you could recommend, or journals or personal narratives, that focus on or address any of these issues, I’d be very grateful if you could point me in the right direction. I hope this email isn’t too presumptuous, but given the depth of your interest in the

region’s history I was hoping that your group would be a good starting point!

Kind regards,  Ivan O’Mahoney

Hi Ivan,

We can certainly put you email in our next newsletter and perhaps our readers can help you.

Regards, Ian

That would be terrific. Thank you so much. People can get in touch with me on ivan@in-films.com

Regards,  Ivan

LESLIE

From: David Theodore
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2014 5:35 PM
Subject: Miss Nellie LESLIE

Hi Ian

Have just discovered your page on the Red Cross during the First World War and notice a person that could be the one I am looking for. Her name is Miss Nellie LESLIE and she did four years service the Australian Red Cross Society. I also believe she had a sister/relative Miss L Leslie (I have no first name) who also served for four years. (I have their certificates here in the museum’s collection).

If at all possible could you see if you have any further details on them, or point me in the right direction for further research. This would be appreciated.

Many thanks and I hope you can shed some light on them for me.

Kind regards, David Theodore

Hi David,

All the information we currently have is already available on our website.

If you would care send me a copy of their certificates, I could forward them to the contributor of the Red Cross material and she may be able to assist you.

Regards, Ian

BOBBIN

On 08/09/2014 09:42, Warwick McCall wrote:

> Proposed Change: Bobbin,  Geoffrey (I59570)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I59570&tree=MP

>

> Description: MR. GEOFFREY BOBBIN

> The death occurred at the Cooma District Hospital on Tuesday, November

> 18, of Mr, Geoffrey Bobbin, aged 71 years, of Brent Street, Cooma. The

> late Mr. Bobbin, who was a son of the late Mr. and Mrs. James Bobbin,

> of Nimmitabel, had spent the whole of his live in the Monaro district,

> where he was highly respected. He was employed on Coonle Station for

> 23 years and the Dalgety Shire Council for 13 years.

> He was married twice. His first wife dies in 1922, leaving him with

> one daughter, Mrs. Neuss, who at present resides in Goulburn. He later

> married Miss Phyllis Rixon and she survives him, together with four

> sons, Alan, William, Owen and Noel, and two daughters, Dorothy and

> Audrey.

> The funeral left Cooma on Thurs day, and the internment took place at

> the Church of England portion of the General Cemetery at Goulburn.

> Goulburn Evening Post (NSW : 1940 - 1954) (about),Tuesday 25 November

> 1941

>

> Warwick McCall

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

DYBALL

On 08/09/2014 09:05, Warwick McCall wrote:

> Proposed Change: Dyball,  Beatrice Cecilia M. (I59605)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I59605&tree=MP

>

> Description: DEATH UNDER AN ANAESTHETIC COOMA, Thursday. An inquest

> was held by the District Coronor, Mr. H. H.

> Solomon, into the death of Mrs. Beatrice Bobbin, wife of Mr. Geoffrey

> Bobbin, of Rock Flat, near Cooma. A verdict was returned that she died

> from failure of the heart's action while under chloroform from a

> surgical operation, that such anaesthetic was properly administered,

> and every effort was made to restore animation. The deceased, who was

> 40 years of age, entered the district hospital on Monday, for an

> operation for Internal trouble. She was examined before the

> anaesthetic was administered, and appeared a fit subject, but

> succumbed a few minutes after the doctor commenced to administer the

> anaesthetic.

> he Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) (about), Friday 24

> February 1922

>

> Warwick McCall

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

FERGUS/ STEVENSON

From: Paul Fergus
Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 6:53 AM
Subject: James Fergus and Jane Steveson and Charlie Fergus

Dear Ian

Thank you for your continuing work documenting Monaro Pioneers.  I thought you might be interested in these three photographs of James Fergus and Jane Stevenson, their son, Charlie, and their grandson, Abel.  These photographs were sent to me some years ago by Abel's son, Cedric Holston Fergus, who is probably the oldest surviving descendant of James Fergus and Jane Stevenson.

Also attached is a photograph of Mary Hilley, the wife of John Adam Fergus and daughter-in-law of James and Jane.  Mary Hilley and John Adam Fergus had eight children, four boys and four girls.  The second child, William, died in 1872 as an infant.  Abel Fergus was the third child and my grandfather, Charles Albert Fergus, was the fourth.  Charles Albert was followed by four girls.

Regards,  Paul Fergus

Thank you Paul,

We have 3 of the daughters listed but don't know anything about the 4th daughter.  Are you able to provide any details on this missing individual?  

Regards,  Ian

Dear Ian

I'm sorry I cannot help with any details about this child except to say that it seems she was born in about 1878 after my grandfather (25 March 1877) but before Mary Jane Fergus (28 February 1879).  Research on the NSW register of births, deaths and marriages does not give any information about her.

I am not now sure where I got the information about this child and I checked John Richards’ database to see whether he had any information about her.  The database that he gave me in 2008 does not contain any information about her.  From my early childhood on the property owned by John Adam Fergus at the confluence of the Strike-a-Light and Wangarah creeks 11 miles from Bredbo on the road to Jerangle, I have a vague recollection of a small private cemetery on the property.  Possibly the child was buried in that cemetery.

I am working through all my documents at the moment to put them into a database one of my brothers wrote for me.  It gives me much greater scope to search my documents than any of the genealogical programs of which I am aware.  I am finding it is a remarkably powerful tool, especially when used in parallel with my genealogical program.  Hopefully in the course of this work I will discover more about this child.  I'll let you know if I do.

Regards, Paul 

From: Richard Horobin
Sent: Saturday, 6 September 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Nimmitabel Meatworks

Dear Mr Harvey,

I live in Canberra, and I'm interested in rail corridors and the historical remnants along them.  I support "rail trails", too.  All that made me very interested in your article about the Nimmitabel Meatworks.  I then thought I'd try to locate it on Google Earth or their maps.  

Unfortunately, the river named in the article is not "McLaughlin" but "MacLaughlin".  The first one is in far north NSW, and the second is where you'd expect it (Nimmitabel-ish).

Then came my second disappointment.  I tried to use the "contacts" link, but it failed.  http://www.monaropioneers.com/nimmitabel/town-history/meatworks.htm works fine, but the other links fail.  eg Home goes to http://www.cooma.nsw.gov.au/monaropioneers/index.html which is missing: 404.  After a bit of fiddling, I've discovered that the correct address is http://www.monaropioneers.com/pioneers.htm

I can see that the Cooma council has tried to host the 'monaropioneers' web site, but they seem to have messed it up.

Could you please direct this message to your webby person.

richard horobin

Curtin

Thanks for letting us know,

Regards,  Ian

COWELL/JEFFREY

From: Gladys Faulkner
Sent: Saturday, 6 September 2014 4:35 PM
Subject: Joseph Cowell's wife Mary Jane Jeffrey

Hello Ian

I have just registered on the Monaro Pioneers website.

My husband is a gg grandson of Joseph & Mary Jane Cowell

I though you may like to have the following information

Mary Jane Cowell was described as a widow when she married George Thomas Morrison, a widower, described as a farmer from Bendock, Victoria, at Cooma on 27.7.1892.

I have just received her death certificate transcription.

Mary Jane Morrison died at Belmore Avenue and Station Road Belmore, in the Municipality of Canterbury at the age of 87 from "senile decay"

She was buried in Rookwood Church of England Cemetery the next day.

The informant on the death certificate was her son N.J. Cowell of Bombala

If possible I would like to receive you newsletter

Kind regards,  Gladys Faulkner

Thank you Gladys, we will gladly add you to our newsletter distribution list.

Regards,  Ian

ELTON

On 05/09/2014 18:22, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Elton,  Esma Lena (I84059)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84059&tree=MP

>

> Description: Died: 21 February 1998

> Buried: Bombala Cemetery Uniting (Methodist) Section, Row F, Grave 247

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

KELLOND

On 05/09/2014 11:33, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Kellond,  Ivy Lea Labara (I36992)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I36992&tree=MP

>

> Description: Baptised: 26 October 1885, St Matthias' Church of

> England, Bombala

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

ATKINS

On 05/09/2014 11:31, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Atkins,  Robert Edwin (I36999)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I36999&tree=MP

>

> Description: Born: 25 December 1884: "Woodlyn" Creewah nr Bombala, NSW

> Married: 25 December 1907, St Matthia's Church of England, Bombala

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

ALLEN

On 05/09/2014 11:14, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Allen,  Sylvia L. J. (I170672)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I170672&tree=MP

>

> Description: Full Name: Sylvia Lillian Jane ALLEN

> Birth: c1914

> Death: 5 October 1988

> Buried: Bombala Cemetery,Uniting (Methodist) Section, Row D, Grave 12

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

HUCKINS

On 05/09/2014 11:04, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Huckins,  Alice Ada (I5071)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I5071&tree=MP

>

> Description: Died: 2 June 1941

> Buried: Bombala Cemetery, Uniting (Methodist) Section, Row D, Grave 10

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

CRIBB

From: Sue Wesson

Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2014 7:53 AM

Subject: mary cribb wife of robert charles cribb

Hi Ian

I am writing on behalf on my niece who is married to one of Robert Charles (1810 - 1842) Cribb's descendants.  We have drawn a blank on Mary/Mary Ann who was the mother of Thomas Cribb (1841 - 1910).  The new BDM  index is horrible and doesn't allow you to search for the marriage of a single individual who may have married again after the death of a spouse.  Robert Charles died in 1842 of an accidental drowning (aged 32) and I can't find a death cert for Mary/Mary Ann who was probably born c. 1810 (children born 1831 and 1841).  Robert Charles was a convict from Gloucester.  I think that Mary/ Mary Ann must have married again and achieved a new surname.

Kind regards,  Sue Wesson

Hi Sue,

I am not sure if you are asking a question below.  However, to assume you are seeking further information on Mary Ann, the only details we have are already available on our website.

Regards,  Ian

Thanks Ian

I appreciate what is there and wondered if there were leads to any more.  If we find more I will let you know.

Cheers,  Sue Wesson

BOBBIN

On 02/09/2014 09:35, Warwick McCall wrote:

> Proposed Change: Bobbin,  Laura Elizabeth (I73095)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:

> http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I73095&tree=MP

>

> Description: Birth

> 13380/1908 BOBBINS LAURA E    JOHN   VICTORIA A    COOMA

>

> Parents John Bobbin and Victoria Dyball

>

> Being Victoria's death was 7 5 1908, expect it may have been from child birth

>

> Warwick McCall

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

PEISLEY

From: John Bobbin
Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 9:39 AM
Subject: Peisley, Vida Isabel - 1996

Hi Ian,

Vida, I knew her all of my life as Totsie. She married Bill Walker and had Marjorie (dec), Neville still alive living in Mitchell St Eden, Trevor (dec - car accident), Laurie still alive and living in Eden, he has just remarried a Filopino woman. Totsie left Bill and had 2 girls Mouya and Beverley to Bill's half brother Maxwell Walker (dec)

John Bobbin MClinSc(LifestyleMed)

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

ELDRIDGE

From: Warwick McCall

Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 9:16 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Eldridge, Georgina Isabella Jane (I63892)

Proposed Change: Eldridge,  Georgina Isabella Jane (I63892)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I63892&tree=MP

Description: another daughter Vera L. Born 1915 Cooma NSW BDM #16571 Parents Edward N and Georgina I

Warwick McCall

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

Subject: Adaminaby photos

From:    "Irene Ramsay"

Date:    Tue, September 2, 2014 9:52 am

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Hi, I have a friend who descends from the West/Lynch  Family that owned the Hotel in Adaminaby, she has photos of the old Hotel and Henry West and a group of others outside the Hotel, she would like to donate the photos  so the will be preserved, I don’t know if there is an Adaminaby Historical Soc , I thought you may like to copy them and could you suggest where they would be best deposited

Congratulations  for a marvellous site, Regards  Irene Ramsay

Hi Irene,

I am happy to receive a copy of the photos your friend has to see if we can use them on our site.  As for the originals, you could try the Cooma Historical Society or the National Library in Canberra.

Regards,  Ian

From: Gregory Thorp
Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2014 4:45 PM
Subject: SUBMISSION TO MONARO PIONEERS NEWSLETTER...."SNOWY to the SOMME"

"SNOWY to the SOMME " giving a history of the 55^th battalion in  the first World War  has been recently published. I commend  this book  to those prepared to learn more  of  what their WW1 soldier  ancestors endured."Fine big countrymen ...typical of the Monaro and the Riverina” (whence many of them were recruited) is how they  are described.

The Snowy River Marchers, including my relatives Albert Goodman and Joseph Heywood who arrived in Goulburn at the  end of January,1916 were part of the 4^th reinforcement of the 55^th battalion.   A battalion is  is about one thousand men. The marchers  went to France (via England).

The Nominal Roll in "Snowy to the Somme" includes the names of about 3,000 officers and men who served in the 55th in Egypt, Belgium and France .  An unusual feature is that twenty of the men are shown in the roll under their real name and also  the different name  under which they enlisted.  Whilst the army files for these twenty men  show the alias under which they enlisted and the correct name, it seems that military records always remained in the  enlistment  name and their  birth name was shown  as  their “alias.” This means military records such as enlistment and discharge papers and medals awarded are not in the soldier’s correct  name. Unless one can find the alias for them ,you won’t even have a chance to find the real name.

It is reasonable to assume that some  who enlisted under a wrong name would not have been found out . A common reason for doing this was to avoid obtaining parental approval to serve overseas if under 21 years of age. The enlistment application had a section (usually on page 1) which read CONSENT OF PARENTS OR GUARDIANS (for persons under 21years of age) to consent for "Active Service Abroad". Where the applicant was clearly of age, a different form was used.  There are  those  who say  that any man of eighteen years was free to enlist for overseas service in WW1 without his parent’s consent. I would  enjoy telling  you the army name for such “experts” but perhaps, being Monaro bred, you already know it!

 A letter sent on 20/2/1923 to the Next of Kin of one Cooma- born soldier in the 55^th battalion (who enlisted under an alias) with  his Scroll and Plaque as a fallen soldier  stated "It is to be noted that the name inscribed on this memorial is that under which the deceased served and died and no variation to this rule is permissible”.

  It seems some men who wanted an alias gave the surname of their local priest as next of kin.  That  may have helped get advice of their death to their real family. Does anyone know the name of the Catholic priest in Adaminaby  during  WW1 please? That is a long shot in  looking for a  lost relative of mine.

Below is an image  of the Plaque sent out in early 1923 to next of kin of fallen WW1 soldiers. It is about 12 cms diameter and made of bronze. It was given the nickname "Dead Man's Penny” and would now be a rare and  valued memorial should any readers find one in their family possessions. Should you find a Plaque with a strange name, it is now a simple process to search that name and possibly it may lead to  another name which will be known to you. What is a pity to my knowledge, except for the 55th.battalion  men,  no one yet has attempted to  alphabetically catalogue all the alias names discovered by the military  or the names of  all  next of kin . Such lists  could be of great help to  researchers.

CARROLL

From: Lindsay Upton

Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 8:23 AM
Subject: James Carroll buried in Michelago Cemetery

Hi Ian,

Through your cemetery website, I have just discovered that my 3^rd great grandfather James Carroll, is buried in Grave 32, Block 1 of the Michelago Catholic Cemetery.

According to my records he died on 4 February, 1882 and was buried on 6 February, 1882.

I was wondering whether it would be possible for someone to transcribe the gravestone and forward it to me.

I’m happy to pay for this service.

Best regards,

Lindsay Upton (Mrs)

31 Pigeon Mountain Road

Half Moon Bay, 2012

Auckland

New Zealand

Hi Lindsay,

We can put your request in our next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers can assist you.

Regards,  Ian

CAPON

From: Robert Lloyd - Jones
Sent: Sunday, 31 August 2014 8:24 AM
Subject: Family Searches

Hi Ian,

I have been searching for an early resident of Bangalore Gap with many problems. I know that Charles Frederick Capon arrived in Australia on the Eliza 19/2/1855 as a seaman.  My great grandmother arrived  in the colony 29/7/1854 and was living in Maitland. The pair moved to Bangalore Gap where my Grandfather William Henry Capon (Born 26/9/1858) and his brother Charles Frederick Capon (Born 1/7/1856) were born. Charles and Bridget were school teachers at Bangalore Gap. What intrigues me is why did they go to Bangalore Gap, Where is Bangalore Gap. I have searched the district and found a rough map reference Bangalore Gap Goulburn 34.53.17 East 149.35.50 East Australia but I wished I knew more. I know of all the descendants and areas that they lived in including Marulan.

Basically I was hoping that you  may have a point that I could put up this information where others  might have data that I could use.

I hope I am not wasting your time .

Regards, Bob Lloyd-Jones

Hi Bob,

The only information we have is already available on our web-site.  Goulburn is outside of our area of interest although we do have family trees in our database for people who lived in and around Goulburn.  I suggest you try contacting the local history society in Goulburn to find more detail on Bangalore Gap.

Regards,  Ian

DOUCH

From: Patricia McGufficke
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2014 4:29 PM
Subject: Extra photos

Did another check of files and found these that might be useful.

John Joseph Douch was born at Berridale and died in Atherton Qld.

The Canberra Times, 21 May 1945.  Lieut. John Douch Death on Service.

The death was announced recently of Lieut. John Douch, eldest son of Mr and Mrs R. Douch, of Causeway.

   The late Lieut. Douch is believed to have been one of the youngest members of the A.I.F. to receive a commission.  He was a carpenter apprentice at the outbreak of war and enlisted at the age of 17, being one of the first 10,000 men to offer in NSW.  He was engaged in the fighting on the Owen Stanley Range and for his conspicuous services on the Kokoda trail, he was recommended for a commission.  He was granted a commission at the age of 19 years.

   His death was the result of an accident in a northern area where he was engaged in training operations.

   Following the announcement of his death, his parents have received letters from his fellow officers which stated that their son was a soldier of outstanding ability.  One letter stated that he would be very greatly missed and that men of his calibre were few and far between.

DOUCH, Lieutenant. John Joseph. NX.96146.  2/6 Australian Commando Squadron was known as The Purple Devils.

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

TWIGG

From: Patricia McGufficke
Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 10:21 PM
Subject: Bombala 8

Kathleen Twigg buried Grave 799 Catholic Section.

Edwin White hard to read from photo.

Headstone Inscription

     In Loving Memory of

  EDWIN HAROLD WHITE

    Died 21-6-1973,  75Yrs

      Always in Our Hearts

Mabel’s grave is next to her husband, Andrew, possibly Grave No. 712.      

Thanks Pat,

Regards,  Ian

From: Joye Walsh
Sent: 2014-08-28 5:42 AM
Subject: Newsletter

Hi Ian

We are OS so I have just had time to catch up with your latest newsletter.

Thank you for all the wonderful work you do to continue to maintain this wonderful resource. I am pleased the recent Family History Expo refueled your enthusiasm. It would be a great loss for it to flag.

However, reading of the process involved in uploading the cemetery photos made me feel quite tired! Thankfully you have been "refueled".

Ever appreciative

Joye

INGRAM

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 9:57 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Mary Ann (I13518)

Proposed Change: Ingram,  Mary Ann (I13518)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I13518&tree=MP

Description: Mary Ann Ingram born1 Feb 1861 Saucy Creek, Bombala, d. 11 Jul

1940 Bombala, m. 24 Aug 1880 Delegate, Samuel Henry Cuzner (surname spelt Cuzzener on m/c). He b. 8 Feb 1858 Goulburn, d. 5 Jul 1926 Berrima District Hospital, Berrima, NSW.

Coronor's Inquest 5 Jul 1926  At Bowral.  Injuries accidentally received in falling over a precipice.

The Sydney Morning Herald Thur 8 Jul 1926 p12 Old Man's Death.  Mittagong, Wednesday.

While returning from Bowral Mr Samuel Cuzner, an old resident of Mittagong, fell down a precipice.  He was not discovered until the morning.  He was conveyed to the Berrima District Hospital, but pneumonia supervened, with fatal results. Mr Cuzner was a well-known Salvationist in this district.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks Pat,

Regards,  Ian

ATKINS

From: Pat McGufficke  

Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 9:50 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Atkins, Henrietta Mary (I60962)

Proposed Change: Atkins,  Henrietta Mary (I60962)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I60962&tree=MP

Description: Henrietta born 23 Jun 1874 Maharatta, Bombala, NSW d. 22 Aug 1922 Bombala, m. Alexander McKay 28 Nov 1894 Bombala.

Bombala Times Newspaper

25 August 1922:  Mrs. Alex McKay died at the residence of her mother, Mrs. W.S. Atkins, Bombala, Tuesday last.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks Pat,

Regards,  Ian

TWIGG

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 9:37 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Twigg, Annie Eileen (I247712)

Proposed Change: Twigg,  Annie Eileen (I247712)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I247712&tree=MP

Description: Annie Eileen Ellison died on 21 Sep 2012 in Canberra, ACT, where she and her husband had lived.  Before she married she was a nurse at Bombala District Hospital.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks Pat,

Regards,  Ian

DOUCH

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 8:54 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Douch, Jean E. S. (I16439)

Proposed Change: Douch,  Jean E. S. (I16439)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I16439&tree=MP

Description: Jean Elizabeth Sarah Douch born 4 Sep 1905 Bombala, died 3 Jul

1978 Manly.  John Leo McDonnell born 1900 Glebe, NSW died 25 Jun 1946 Manly NSW.  Buried CofE Section Frenchs Forest Cemetery, Sydney, Row F, Grave 25.

Headstone photographed by Bevan Stone (to come).  After John died, Jean married Stan Ewell but no children from either union.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks Pat,

Regards,  Ian

DOUCH

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 8:49 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Douch, Roy (I13241)

Proposed Change: Douch,  Roy (I13241)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I13241&tree=MP

Description: Died 19 Jul 1974 at Repatriation Hospital, Narrabeen, NSW (source Diane Douch)

Pat McGufficke

Thanks Pat,

Regards,  Ian

DOUCH

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 8:45 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Douch, Mona Marion (I16437)

Proposed Change: Douch,  Mona Marion (I16437)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I16437&tree=MP

Description: Born 10 Oct 1896 Bombala, Chr. 4 Aug 1897 St Matthias' Bombala, died 16 Jun 1920 Bairnsdale.

Mona never worked and did not marry. She stayed at home and helped with the household duties.  She died at Bairnsdale, Victoria, in 1920, the same year her son, William Henry was born (You may not want to put this in, but she was the mother of William Henry Douch born 1920 Bairnsdale, died 1927 Bombala).  You currently have William as a son of Mona's parents.  His death may have been registered Victoria.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks Pat,

Regards,  Ian

SIRL

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2014 8:09 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Sirl, Henry E. (I86736)

Proposed Change: Sirl,  Henry E. (I86736)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I86736&tree=MP

Description: SMH, Tue. 4 May 1920

SIRL - The Relatives and Friends of Mrs Minnie Elizabeth Sirl, are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of her late beloved Husband, Henry Ernest, to leave his late residence, Livery Stables, Gunbridge Street, Chatswood, This Day, at 2.30pm, for Methodist Cemetery, Gore Hill.

Street name difficult to read -may not be correct.

Pat McGufficke

Thank you Pat,

Regards,  Ian

INGRAM

From: Patricia McGufficke
Sent: Tuesday, 26 August 2014 10:48 PM
Subject: Bombala 6

Death Notice in Canberra Times 15 Nov 2004, Rodney Charles Ingram, died 12 November 2004 aged 77 years, late of Bombala.  Much loved husband of Elizabeth (decd).  Devoted father of Brett and Tracy, father-in-law of Charmayne and John, affectionately known to his 7 grandchildren as "Poppy from Bombala".  Funeral to be held on Wednesday 17 November 2004 commencing at 11am at St Mathias' Church, Bombala.  Buried 17 November 2004 at Bombala Cemetery.

Not sure if Brian William is buried Bombala or Delegate.

Thanks Pat,

Brian William Ingram is buried in Bombala Lawn Cemetery.

Regards,  Ian

STEGEMAN

From: narm
Sent: 2014-08-26 3:55 PM
Subject: William Stegeman

Hi Ian,

Thanks for forwarding on that info re William Stegeman.  I knew he had written about the Men from Snowy River March, as I found extracts in some papers published

by the late Tony Garnock published during the 1988 Bi-Centenary Celebrations where he referred to him as Bill Stegeman.  As I have included a couple of paragraphs in my book, I felt I would like to know something about him, I wonder if he is still alive.

I appreciate  your help,

Regards,  Natalie

WHITE

From: Pat McGufficke  

Sent: Monday, 25 August 2014 10:48 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: White, Thomas (I40593)

Proposed Change: White,  Thomas (I40593)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I40593&tree=MP

Description: Thomas White baptised 7 Mar 1852 Cooma CofE (AGCI)

Pat McGufficke

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

INGRAM

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Monday, 25 August 2014 10:29 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Coulson Victor (I40625)

Proposed Change: Ingram,  Coulson Victor (I40625)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I40625&tree=MP

Description: Add child:  Neil Coulson Ingram m. Jennifer Mary Kimber 1959 Delegate.

Neil's son, Paul Coulson Ingram born 1961, d. 25 Aug 1973 Photo to come.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

REED

From: Trevor Reed
Sent: Monday, 25 August 2014 3:48 PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers

Ian

I have discovered previously unknown information regarding both sides of my family by, per chance, clicking onto Monaro Pioneers, which has proved invaluable.

My principal investigations have centered on Reed & Rankin families and to my dismay I find my father’s details are missing from the Reed side.

May I bring to your attention my father’s details, as follows;

Reed, Alfred 1847 – 1911

9. Reed, Arthur Thomas 1891 – 1966

Children – 43 is Donald Edward born 1923 Bermagui, died ?

                   46 should be Alfred John born 24/6/15 Bermagui, died 29/10/59 Sydney – This is my father.

Ian, if you would amend the records to note the above I would be very grateful.

Thanks,  Trevor Reed

Hi Trevor,

Thank you for the information, your father will be added to our database with the next update.

Regards,  Ian

WHITE

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Monday, 25 August 2014 3:55 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: White, Leo C. (I73130)

Proposed Change: White,  Leo C. (I73130)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I73130&tree=MP

Description: Leo Clarence White born 1903, died 1984 Bombala.

m. Rita Bridget Casey 1934 Mudgee, NSW.  She died 1997 Bombala.  H'stone photo to come.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks Pat,

Regards,  Ian

CARR

From: Laine Harvey
Sent: Monday, 25 August 2014 12:41 PM
Subject: james carr

Greetings Ian

I am hoping you might be able to help researching an ancestor who came to Victoria via The Monaro.

I have attempted to register with the Monaro Pioneers site, but am unable to logon at present.

My ancestor is James Carr and I see he is listed along with John James Carr who might be a son.

James was an Irish born convict. I have all the details of his life happenings and  moves from arrival in NSW to his death in Maffra (the Victorian one)and am happy to share them if you are interested.

I know he was convicted at Lenten Assizes Meath in 1822 and that he was described as a thresher and reaper from Co Meath.

What I don’t know is anything about his family in Ireland.

In 3 weeks I am leaving for the UK and shall be in Ireland in early October.

Currently I’m on a mission to seek out anything that might give some indication of his parents name or a better hint of his birth place.

Please can you possibly help?

Laine

Ian, have just received confirmation that I am registered, thanks

Hi Laine,

The only information we have is what is available on our website.  If you can add to/or correct what we have we would be very grateful.

Regards,  Ian

Thanks for the quick reply Ian.

I was able to look at the info on John James Carr and he looks unfamiliar, but I'll have a closer look later.

The connection to James Carr failed to come up. My Internet is playing up and perhaps that's the cause. Anyway I'll keep looking to access that from your site.

Congratulations on your site. What a lot of work has gone into getting all that together and organised so well.

As I get together a story of my Carr ancestors I'll pass it onto you.

Laine

STEVENSON

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2014 12:01 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Stevenson, James (I93011)

Proposed Change: Stevenson,  James (I93011)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I93011&tree=MP

Description: Born 18 Dec 1864, died 16 Oct 1865, buried Grave 19a Bombala, aged 1 year 2 months.

Pat McGufficke

Thank you Pat,

So sad that so many infants died so young.  I can't even begin to imagine how those pioneering families coped with such tragedies.

Regards,  Ian

STEVENSON

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2014 11:58 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Stevenson, Agnes (I93010)

Proposed Change: Stevenson,  Agnes (I93010)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I93010&tree=MP

Description: Agnes born 13 Jul 1862, died 14 Dec 1864.  Buried Grave No. 19a Bombala Cemetery, aged 2 years 5 months.

Pat McGufficke

Thank you Pat,

Regards,  Ian

STEGEMANN

From: Robin Daley
Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2014 11:36 AM
Subject: William Stegemann

Hello Ian

I wrote to you once before about William C. Stegemann and how I managed to buy his books from him in 2002.

I have a letter from him written in 10 May 2002 which will throw some light on who he was.

In it he says:

Dear Mrs Daley

Herewith is a copy of my book “A Monaro Mosaic: patterns of Monaro life, events and people.” Your request came as a huge surprise to me. I have not sold a copy of this book since 1997. The cost $10 plus $2.00 postage, etc. Please make your payment to me, personally, as Linbarroo Publishers ceased to exist a few years ago. Many thanks.

“When I was the Rector of the Anglican Parish of Berridale and we lived in the Rectory in Bent Street, Berridale, our neighbours were a family name Daley. My wife and I are wondering whether you are connected with that family? The years were from 1971 to 1975.”

Thank you for your interest in my book,

With warmest wishes,

Sincerely,

(Reverend) W. C. Stegemann (retired)

P.S. I have autographed the enclosed book for you.

In another letter he says he and his family lived in Berridale from October 1971 to December 1975 and how much they loved “the whole of the Monaro and the mountains”.

As far as we know we have no connection to the Daley family he talks about as being his neighbours but we have found that my husband Phil has ancestors in common with some of the Monaro pioneering families, something we didn’t know when we moved here 30 years ago. Phil is from a pioneering family from the Hawkesbury Valley and with, on average, 10 children in each family, apparently the valley became too small for some so they moved to the Monaro as well as moving to other parts of the NSW.

The Monaro Pioneers website is a masterpiece. It is amazing.

Cheers,  Robin Daley

Dalgety.

Thank you Robin for your response to the item in the recent newsletter, I have copied Natalie on this email.

Regards,  Ian

O’NEILL

From: Bernard Wall

Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2014 6:08 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: O'Neill, Mary (I107519)

Proposed Change: O'Neill,  Mary (I107519)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I107519&tree=MP

Description: Mary O'Neil married John Riedy in 5/5/1844 in a Catholic ceremony at Bungonia near Goulburn, NSW . Mary arrived in the company of John Wall and his wife Mary (nee McNamara) per the “Fairlie” on 5/11/1841 as an Assisted Immigrant (19 pounds); she was 17 years at the time (born abt

1824) and listed as being under the protection of her aunty Mrs Mary Wall.

Mary O’Neil’s immigration papers list her Occupation as House Servant; Religion, Roman Catholic and Native Place, Askeaton, Co Limerick. She could neither read nor write. On Mary’s death registration her parents are listed as John O’Neil and Mary. She died 1896 aged 72 years at Braidwood (NSW BDM) and is buried in Braidwood cemetery where there is no listing for her father but her mothers name is shown as Mary.

Bernard Wall

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

FORD

From: David McKay

Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2014 5:35 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Ford, Ellen Emily (I28911)

Proposed Change: Ford,  Ellen Emily (I28911)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I28911&tree=MP

Description: Please note, Ellen Emily Ford did not marry John Joseph Baines.

The BDM certificate quoted is incorrect. An error at BDM NSW. I rang them as they had duplicate certificates. The certificate Number is correct for the marriage of John to Ellen Emily Reid.

My Partner is the daughter of Ethel Wilson and I can provide more detail re her Death and other siblings not listed if you are interested? I would like to communicate with the provider of the information if this is acceptable?

Kind Regards,  David McKay

Thank you David,

We would appreciate any additional information you can provide.

We have no contact details for that family unfortunately.

Regards,  Ian

CONSTABLE

From: Cathrine Constable

Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2014 4:44 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Constable, George Henry (I62623)

Proposed Change: Constable,  George Henry (I62623)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I62623&tree=MP

Description: Hi Ian,

It appears that George has lost his wife, Mary Ann Charman and his 13 children (software hiccup).

Pleased to hear that the Merimbula trip was a rewarding one for you. Good on ya.

Regards, Cathrine.

Hi Catherine,

Thanks for letting me know, should be fixed now.  I will be doing a complete reload in the next few days which fixes those sort of glitches thank goodness.

Regards,  Ian

WILKE

From: Linda Stapleton
Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2014 2:44 PM
Subject: Re Wilke family

Ian,

Would you be able to forward my details on to Tracey McColgan.(as per below) I do not have any information for her but would like to possibly join efforts in finding out about both our Willkie’s ancestors.

It is quite ok if she doesn’t wish to communicate. J

Thank you,  Linda Stapleton.

WILKIE

From: Jon & Tracy McColgan 
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2014 9:19 PM
Subject: Aboriginal heritage

Hi Ian,

I believe My great great grandmother Emily Wilkie may be aboriginal. I was wondering if you can help me with this?

John Wilkie married Ann ?

Emily Wilkie born NSW daughter of John and Ann married  Joseph Richmond in 1871

Their son was Hugh Richmond he married Elizabeth Smith 1905

They had Mary Ann Richmond my grandmother and 4 other children (Hugh, Arthur, Elizabeth, Andrew)

Mary Ann Richmond married Roy Elton 1927

They had 6 children 3 boys and 3 girls. My mother is one of the 6 children Lois Muriel Elton Mongan.

Any information you can help me with would be great.

Regards, Tracy  McColgan ( Mongan)

Hi Tracy,

Unfortunately, we have no information that might help, all we have is already available on our website.

Regards,  Ian

The address you need is 'Jon & Tracy McColgan'

Regards,  Ian

Thank you much appreciated

My pleasure, I hope you are successful in the quest.

Regards,  Ian

INGRAM

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2014 4:41 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Gordon Desmond (I213294)

Proposed Change: Ingram,  Gordon Desmond (I213294)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I213294&tree=MP

Description: Gordon Desmond born 29 Aug 1927 Bombala. Gordon was a member of the Bombala Rugby League Club and represented Group 19 in 1953.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

INGRAM

From: Pat McGufficke

Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2014 4:32 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Ben (I351627)

Proposed Change: Ingram,  Ben (I351627)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I351627&tree=MP

Description: Benson William Ingram born 2 Aug 1936 Delegate, died 17 Sep

2004 Bombala.  He married Dianne Elizabeth Cuthel 16 Jan 1965 in the Roman Catholic Church Bombala.  He and Dianna lived Hyde Street, Bombala, in 1980.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

ELLIOTT

On 23/08/2014 16:59, Patricia McGufficke wrote:

  Proposed Change: Elliott,  Brenda Mary-Mae (I342428)

  Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

  Link:

http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I342428&tree=MP

  Description: Pretty sure this is Mary Brenda Atkins, born 18 Jun 1911

  Bombala, daughter of William John B Atkins and Mary Violet Elton.  I

  am connected to the Elton family and had her death registered as 1 May

  1989.  She married Harold Claude 1928 in Queanbeyan - her name is

  recorded as Mary B Atkins in the NSW BDM's.

  Patricia McGufficke

Proposed Change: Elliott,  Brenda Mary-Mae (I342428)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I342428&tree=MP

Description: Checked a little further, and she is shown on the electoral rolls as Mary Brenda up until around 1968, then she is shown as Brenda Mary Elliott, living with her son Anthony Claude (Tony) Elliott and his wife Eileen Joyce (Rayner) at 2 Dickenson Street, Bombala.

Pat McGufficke

Thanks Patricia,

Regards,  Ian

MEAD

From: leonie mann

Sent: 2014-08-23 3:15 PM

Subject: Newsletter

Hello,

I am a descendant of Samuel Mead daughter of Ivy Myrtle Hayse I would love to have the newsletter sent. I would also like to update the site my mother and that of my Aunty Phyliss are incorrect My Uncle Dave (Dave )and Uncle Arthur are still living.

Hi Leonie,

Please send your required changes/additions to me and I will gladly update our website.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian

I am very excited about this it is such a big and growing family especially Mum being one of 11! So it may take me a little while because I want it to be as accurate as possible what a shame she is not here to help me. Uncle Dave lives in  Bairnsdale but I am on the Gold Coast as are both my sisters Someone is tapping me on the shoulder from the past because today I picked up an obscure book which had photographs of country England 1844-1914 and one was of a hotel in a town I had never heard of Billericay, Essex  it had a photo of the Rising Sun Hotel I remembered that My Grandfather Thomas Hayse from what Mum told me he used to work on a goldmine called The  Rising Son!  (@ ? Bendoc? I also knew Samuel Mead had come Brentwood Essex and when I looked it was very near....so I decided I must look at the website again I will be in touch

Kind regards,  Lee(Leonie Valda May Mann

From: Ian Harvey
Sent: 2014-08-23 7:40 AM
To: Tilba Woodturning
Subject: Your gravestone photos of Bega, Bombala, Cathcart, Eden and Pambula cemeteries

Hi George,

What a pleasure it was to meet and talk with you at the recent Sapphire Coast Family History Expo.

Thank you for the photos you provided of the afore mentioned cemeteries.  I have now been able to process them and upload them into the MP database a little quicker than I anticipated.

I thought you might be interested in the process involved so I decided to attempt to explain what I have to do and that might help you understand why it does take time to accomplish.

Firstly, I needed to edit each individual photo to reduce its file size and to rename the file to reflect the individuals concerned.  My file naming convention is Surname, Christian names.  Where a headstone has multiple individuals listed, i.e. husband and wife the file name contains all the individuals i.e.  Husband's Surname, Christian names and wife's Christian names nee maiden surname.  Surname first is vital to enable the search process to be more efficient.

I used separate folders for each cemetery to make it easier for me to keep track of what I was doing.  Once each photo file is processed and a cemetery's photos are complete I then have to upload that cemetery folder to the MP website.  When the upload is complete, I then have to "add" each photo individually into the Headstones category within the MP database.  This again involves editing each individual photo record to assign it to its respective cemetery, linking the photo to the individual records of the persons listed and attaching it to their Burial event and finally adding the name of the provider of the photo as the "owner".  I then repeat the process for the next cemetery until every cemetery and every photo has been added.

The final result being anyone can now find your photos in the MP database by searching for Media or Cemetery or Headstones or by the individual(s) concerned.  I personally think the Cemetery search is perhaps the most interesting because the software will show all the headstones currently available within the MP database for that cemetery as well as a list of all the individuals within the database known to be buried in that particular cemetery.  Not very exciting you might say, but I found the process quite sobering when looking at the cemeteries of Gallipoli, Belgium and France for example.

Anyway, it does take a bit of effort but hopefully the end result is worth it.  At least your excellent photographs can now be appreciated by other MP users.

Regards,   Ian

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