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Monaro Pioneers Newsletter
2015 Number 1
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
NEW
HEADSTONE IMAGES
Hi Folks,
Over the last couple of weeks I have received two great contributions, lots and lots of photos of headstones.
David Povey has provided images for the Christ Church Cemetery in Cooma, Old Adaminaby, Bredbo, Michelago, Jerangle, and Mittagang Road, Cooma cemeteries. I am still working my way through these images and adding them to the MP database, each linked to the individual(s) concerned and it may be a few more weeks before I finish.
Carlene Harris has also supplied images for Bairnsdale, Bombala, Delegate, Nimmitabel and Orbost which I will get to when I have completed the Mittagang Road Cemetery.
You can view these images in the database by using the Cemeteries and/or Headstones options and selecting a specific cemetery or you can search for a specific individual who you know is buried in one of these cemeteries to see if there is now a headstone image available. Alternatively you can use the "What's new in the last 30 days" option to see what images have been added recently.
I would like to thank these kind and generous people for their marvellous contributions and hope the images are beneficial for your research.
Regards,
Ian Harvey
MONARO PIONEERS now on Facebook
Thanks to one of our contributors Bruce Stubbs, the Monaro Pioneers website now has a Facebook group page created and is accessible at the following URL:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/893648944008345/
Please refer to emails within the CURRENT CORRESPONDENCE section for further details.
REQUESTS:
GAIT REUNION
Hello David,
Could you please advertise the following Reunion for descendants of William
Gait/Bridget Curley to take place at Moss Vale NSW on weekend 30-31st May, 2015.
William and Bridget had four children: Elizabeth, Thomas, Mary, Ann Dinah
(Diana).
Further information can be obtained by emailing me or Jannette Cameron (nee
Gait) who is organising the reunion.
Contacts:
jannette.cameron@bigpond.com
or
imason46@hotmail.com
Many thanks,
Irene Mason
LOVE FAMILY REUNION
Love Family Reunion, Saturday/Sunday, 4 & 5 April 2015 at Eden and Towamba, NSW.
Descendants of James Albert Love (1830 London – 1905 Eden) are invited to attend a reunion. James arrived on the last convict ship to Australia in 1849 and James married three times – Mary Maddison Hite, Ellen Hart and Matilda Newlyn and had 17 children. Descendant families include Clements, Collins, Fairweather, Galli, Harris, McGrath , Mitchell, Newlyn, Platts, Ramsey, Sawers & Watson.
Saturday, 4 April, 2015 4pm Tour of Eden Cemetery
6pm Dinner at Eden Fisherman’s Club, Imlay Street, Eden NSW
Sunday, 5 April, 2015 10:30am – 3pm Family Day at Towamba Sports Ground, Towamba – bring your own picnic lunch
RSVP & Enquiries to: Jennifer Smith Telephone: 02 64943017 Email: 2015lovereunion@gmail.com
Regards
Susan G Love JP
HENRY GRANT REUNION
From: John [mailto:haylockjohn@netspace.net.au]
Sent: 2014-12-02 4:44 AM
Subject: Grant Clan of Wydham NSW
Dear David,
A reunion of the descendants of Henry Grant Snr 1815 - 1881 is currently being planned (finally) for 2015 over the long weekend in October in Wyndham.
The year is significant as it turns out as it will be the 200th birthday of Henry Grant Snr Is it possible to have some information on this event included in the newsletter? I do have dates and events for that weekend if appropriate.
For your information and reference, I am the youngest child of Clyde and Annie Grant from Wydham.
In anticipation of a reply.
Regards
Maree Haylock (Grant)
WILLOUGHBY
From:
Sue Zammit
Sent: 2014-09-26 7:28 PM
Subject: WILLOUGHBY REUNION 2015 AT BRAIDWOOD NSW
Hello David
I would like to introduce myself. My name is Sue Zammit and I live in Gisborne, Victoria. My fathers mothers family were the Smith family from Braidwood NSW. The father was Joseph Smith Born in 1843 in Pinxton, Derbyshire England. He married in 1867 in New Zealand to Mary Jane Granger She was born in 1853 in Surrey, England. They went on to have 16 children. The moved to Braidwood New South Wales, Australia in 1891 and Mary Jane went on to have another3 children, one of which was my grandmother Ethel Dorothea Louisa Smith. One of the Smith girls married into the Willoughby family that was settled in Braidwood. That is where the reunion starts. The Willoughby reunion is to be held at the RSL Club in Braidwood on 26,27,28 Sept 2015 There is a Facebook page under Willoughby reunion. I was wondering if you may be able to put a notice on your web site adverting for any descendents of John Willoughby and Mary Ann Mills. She was a half cast aboriginal. I have loads of information on the whole family if your are interested. I can be contacted at email suzyq14@bigpond.com There should be a very healthy turnout as the Willoughby clan is huge.
Many thanks for your time, hope to hear back from you .
Kind regards Sue Zammit (Gisborne, Victoria)
CURRENT CORRESPONDENCE:
PLATTS
Brotherton, Pauline (I206235)
The family of the late Pauline Helen Beileiter wish to extend their thanks to everyone for their floral tributes, cards & kind thoughts during our recent loss of our wife, mother, grandmother & sister.
Please accept this as our heartfelft thanks. From husband Brian, daughters Sharon, Tracey, Susan & families.
ANNOUNCEMENTS : RETURN THANKS
4/02/2015 Bombala Times
---------------------------------------
Platts, William Neil (I41692)
PLATTS, William Neil (Neil) - passed away peacefully on Thursday, 22^n^d January 2015 at his residence, formerly of Southern Access Road, Rockton.
Aged 79 years.
Dearly loved Son of Jack and Lillian (DEC). Brother to Stan (DEC) and Ivey (DEC). Adored Uncle and friend to all the people that knew him.
The relatives and friends of the late WILLIAM NEIL PLATTS are invited to attend his funeral service to be held in the St. Mathis Anglican Church, Bombala on Friday, 6^t^h February 2015 commencing at 11:00am. At the conclusion of the service, the cortege will proceed to Bombala Cemetery, Bombala.
Allens Funerals Cooma
Alan & Catherine Dodd Director
Family Owned & Operated
FDA 02-64522094
ANNOUNCEMENTS : DEATH NOTICES
4/02/2015 Bombala Times
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BOLTON
On 03/02/2015 21:40, Shauna wrote:
> Thank you for your reply. How did you get the info? Was it through
> another's family tree? I'm just trying to follow all avenues :)
>
> Kind regards
> Shauna
>
> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, <ian@monaropioneers.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Shauna,
>>
>> Sorry, we have no contact information for that family. There is a NSW
>> BDM Index reference number for Cornelius' death so if you order a
>> transcription of his death you should be able to see where he is
>> buried.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On 03/02/2015 15:40, Shauna Knee wrote:
>>
>>> Comments (Bolton, Cornelius d. 1865 Cooma, NSW): Hello, I am
>>> researching the Bolton family. My connection is via my daughter Lucy
>>> Rose Rankin. Her grandmother is Ethel May RANKIN nee BOLTON.
>>>
>>> Could I please get the contact details of the person/s who have
>>> given you the information regarding Cornelius Bolton. I'm trying to
>>> locate his burial in the Cooma district.
>>>
>>> Your help would be most appreciated.
>>>
>>> Kind regards, Shauna
Cornelius's year and place of death registration was obtained from the NSW online BDM Index (freely available) as was his wife's information.
You can do your own verification by using the following link...
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/result?5
Regards, Ian
McDONALD
From: David and
Rita
Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2015 1:58 PM
Subject: mcdonald descendant of the Manaro
Dear Ian,
I do hope that this email link from the Monaro Pioneers is current and that I can make contact once more with other searchers.
My name is David MacDonald Roache and in the past (possibly about 2005/6) I added vital information as a descendant of Hugh (Ewen) and Janet McDonald (who ran the sub post office at The Tea Gardens, Holts Flat, NSW, until 1902/3) who took up residence in Nimmitabel itself in 1903.
My Father was Alexander MacDonald Roache (born Torpoint, Cornwall 1909), the first born child of Adelaide Hayden (from Jessie McDonald and John Hayden) and Patrick Roache, Jessie being a daughter of Janet and Hugh McDonald from Inverness-Shire, who arrived on the Manaro in 1858).
As I have lost touch with the above, and especially as Pattrick Buckley (who descends from Jessie's older sister. Isabella) who so enthusiastically helped me in my quest from 2003-2007 is no longer able to share the story with me, I would be more than happy to make further contact re the above.
David M Roache
Hi David,
We can add your email to our next newsletter and hopefully that might bring forth some contacts for you.
Regards, Ian
MONTHLY FACEBOOK CORRESPONDENCE
From:
Bruce Stubbs
Sent:
2015-02-01 10:09 AM
Subject:
Facebook page Correspondence for Monaro Pioneers 13-01-2015 to 31-01-2015
Hi Ian and David,
Attached is Facebook page Correspondence for Monaro Pioneers 13-01-2015 to 31-01-2015 which can be added to the next newsletter.
Regards
Bruce
Subject: Re: Moruya Heads Cemetery, NSW.
On 29/01/2015 12:05, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> Moruya Heads Cemetery, NSW.
>
> AKA Toragy Point Cemetery, NSW.
>
> Elizabeth St,
>
> Moruya Heads NSW 2537
>
> Location Map
>
> Lat/Lng: -35.908727,150.161216
>
> Constable, John (I157924)
>
> Constable, Sarah Ann (I157925)
>
> Louttit, Joseph (I157740)
>
> Louttit, Lavinia (I217532) - I'm thinking the YOD is incorrect on the
> headstone.
>
> Louttit, John (I217528)
>
> The plaque re: Joseph Louttit is attached to the back of the
> headstone.
>
> Regards, Cathrine
Thanks for the photos,
Regards, Ian
McDONALDS
From: Lochaber
and North Argyll Family History Group
Sent: Sunday, 25 January 2015 9:44 AM
Subject: re: Poposed change
Hi Ian
My apologies. Her date of death was 11th MARCH 1861 not 10th March 1863 as I
stated - a typo on my part - however, her Gravestone in Reid CofE Cemetery in
Canberra shows her death date as 10th Mar 1861.
I've attached a copy of her Death Cert. which confirms it as 11th March.
However, as her DC confirms, her Maiden/Own Name IS McDonald and NOT Ross .
Something else:
We're having difficulty identifying which of the two Kenneth McDonalds on the
William Nicol was married to Catherine. You have him as born 1805 with 1
child. Whereas the Pax List shows the one age 31 (born 1806) as having 2
children and the one age 27 (born 1810) as having 1 child.
I also note that you show Kenneth as born in Glengarvie, Rothshire (Ross-shire I
presume). However, Glengarvie is in Strathdon in the Gordon District of
Aberdeenshire.
We have been unable to find baptisms for Archibald or Margaret in the CofS OPRs
or the RC Birth & Baptism records. Likewise for their marriage.
Regards, Les
==========================
Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group -
http://tinyurl.com/y6te7n
e-mail -
landnafhg@fsmail.net
==========================
Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group - http://tinyurl.com/y6te7n http://www.lochaberandnorthargyllfamilyhistorygroup.org.uk/
Thank you for the documents. The information we have is as supplied to us and I am not able to answer your question on Kenneth McDonald.
Regards, Ian
Hi Ian
Thanks. Although Archibald was buried as RC we can't find his birth, nor his marriage to Margaret, in the Catholic Records. We'll let you know if we find out anything more about these McDonalds.
Regards, Les
New Zealand Service Files Now Online
Records of all known New Zealanders who served their country
during the First World War are now free to access online
following a major digitisation project. To view, go to website:
http://archives.govt.nz/world-war-one
From: Jim and Siew McJannett
Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 10:57 AM
Subject: PHOTOGRAPH
Dear Ian,
I am a genealogist living in Cooktown in Queensland's Far North. A friend of mine who demolition work in Cairns, at times comes up with old papers and the odd photograph with rear identification. Recently he gave me the photograph of a young lady named on the rear by her serviceman boyfriend. I did some research and the homeland is in your quarter. I am not at home right now but will be so in a few days. If you would like the photo and research let me know and I shall get it to you. The name comes up on your index. Although found in rubble it is in fair condition. It would make a nice little love and otherwise story for your news letter. How the photograph came to be in Cairns is a mystery which may be solved by way of publication. All I would ask is that you keep me in the loop. I would like to know the answer if it surfaces.
Kind regards, Jim McJannett.
Thanks Jim for the offer, we would be happy to receive your material and add to our newsletter.
Regards, Ian
FURNELL
On 26/01/2015 17:43, Chris Livingstone wrote:
> Proposed Change: Furnell, Theodore L. (I108073)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I108073&tree=MP
>
> Description: His middle name is Lyndon.
>
> He married to Sylvia Marion GLENN on 8 Jan 1931, as details from
> Marriage Notice - Theodore Lyndon FURNELL and Sylvia Marion GLENN in
> The Southern Record and Advertiser on Friday 16 January 1931, page 1
> and confirms with me in NSW Registered as 1848/1931 but the registered
> name is FUNNELL!
>
> Chris Livingstone
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
On 23/01/2015 18:31, Min Tamsitt wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> Many thanks for this, and congratulations on such a wonderful site. Is
> it possible to be able to make contact with the people who have given
> info for you tree. I am particularly interested in the family of
> Albert Edward SMITH and his wife Daphne Moya, nee Ingram.
>
> I respect people's privacy but would be most willing if you would pass
> on my details to any one connected to this couple.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Sincerely, Min Tamsitt
Hi Mignon,
Thank you for the kind words.
You can see a list of contributors for the Ingram Tree information and their contact details at ... http://www.monaropioneers.com/ingram-h.htm
This email will also be included in our next newsletter which may help you.
Regards, Ian
REED
On 23/01/2015 17:39, Cathrine Constable wrote:
> Proposed Change: Reed, Elizabeth Bridget (I182959)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I182959&tree=MP
>
> Description: Hi Ian
>
> Elizabeth Bridget REED
> Died 11 Feb 1961, Murwillumbah NSW 5890/1961.
> Buried Catholic Cemetery, Murwillumbah NSW.
> Married 20 July 1909, Bemboka NSW 7468/1909 to John Thomas (Tom)
> WESTWOOD b. 1883, Central Cumberland NSW 15373/1883.
> Died 3 May 1932, Murwillumbah NSW 9084/1932.
> Buried Banner St., Murwillumbah NSW
> Son of Felix Westwood & Priscilla
>
> NB: NSW Marriage index as REID.
>
> The Bega Budget (NSW : 1905 - 1921) Saturday 3 July 1909
>
> LOCAL AND GENERAL
> Mr. Tom Westwood, well-known in Bega as something of a sprinter,
> returned from Billinudgel this week. He speaks well of the North as
> a place where labor receives a good wage and work is plentiful.
> "Tom" has taken a farm on shares at Billinudgel, and is to be married
> on the 20th instant to Miss Lizzie Reed, daughter of Mr. John Reed of
> Bemboka.
>
> The Bega Budget (NSW : 1905 - 1921) Wednesday 21 July 1909
>
> LOCAL AND GENERAL.
> On Sunday morning at Bemboka R.C. Church, Mr. Thos. Westwood, second
> son of Mr. Felix Westwood, of Sydney, and Miss Lizzie Reed, fourth
> daughter of Mr. John Reed, of Bemboka, were united in the holy bonds
> of matrimony.
> Rev. Father Gunning performed the ceremony. Miss Issie McDonald was
> bridesmaid, and Mr. A. Reed, brother of the bride, best man. After the
> ceremony, the wedding party adjourned to the residence of the bride's
> parents, where the wedding breakfast was served, and the usual, toasts
> honored. Mr.and Mrs.
> Westwood soon afterwards left for Bega, and took the boat at Tathra on
> Monday for Sydney, enroute to the North Coast. The newly married
> couple will reside at Billinudgel.
>
> Elizabeth 2nd Married to
> Angus Gillas McLEAN
> Died 1940, QLD 1940/C4374.
> Son of Donald Mclean & Mary Evans.
>
> Regards, Cathrine
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
REED
On 23/01/2015 17:28, Cathrine Constable wrote:
> Proposed Change: Reed, Matthias Gabriel (I182958)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I182958&tree=MP
>
> Description: Hi Ian
>
> Northern Star (Lismore, NSW : 1876 - 1954), Monday 21 June 1954.
>
> MR. M. G. (Tom) REED
> The death occurred in Lismore in the early hours of yesterday morning
> of Mr. Matthias Gabriel Reed, aged 66, of 13 Parkes Street, Lismore.
> He had formerly lived at North Lismore. Mr. Reed, who was better known
> as Tom, had not enjoyed good health for some years.
>
> He was born at Bega and came to Ballina as a young man where he
> married Miss Christina Coleman, who survives him. About 25 years ago
> they settled in Lismore. Sons are Ambrose (Mt. Isa. Qld.), George
> (Tara, Qld.), and Kevin
> (Lismore) and daughters are Mesdames T. Frame (Codrington). G. Beatty
> (Sydney) A. McLean (McKee's Hill) H. L. Hughes (Lismore), T. Cubitt
> (Ballina), and J. Maher (Teven). Brothers are Mr. Ambrose Reed
> (Murwillumbah) and Jack Reed (Kyogle) and sisters are Mrs. L. McLean
> (Murwillumbah) and Mrs. M.
> Burns (Stoker's Siding).
>
> His funeral will leave St Carthage's Cathedral, Lismore tomorrow,
> after a service commencing at 11 a.m., for the Lismore cemetery.
>
> Mathias married
> Christina G. COLEMAN b. 1887, Lismore NSW 34135/1887.
> Died Feb 1973, Penrith NSW 40781/1973, late of St. Marys, formerly of
> Lismore NSW.
> Aged 86 Years.
> Dau of Charles Coleman & Susan Robinson Ainsworth.
>
> Regards, Cathrine
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
Subject: Re: Bodalla Estate cemetery
Date: 24/01/2015 08:04
On 23/01/2015 16:29, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> Bodalla Estate Cemetery
>
> Reed, Michael (I124911)
>
> Reed, Alice May, nee Anderson (I156489)
>
> After some snooping around, I think I can shine some light on the
> story behind Eurobodalla Cemetery.
>
> Back in 1858, Charles Harpur (known for being Australia's first native
> born poet) bought 500 acres of land at Eurobodalla and called the
> property 'Euroma'.
>
> In 1867, his second son, Charles Chidley Harpur accidently shot
> himself and died. His father buried him on top of the hill on the
> property, which is known as Harpur's Hill.
>
> In 1868, Charles died and was buried beside his son.
>
> Jon Prance wrote an article called 'The Graves of Harpur's Hill' in
> The Canberra Times, 14 May 1977.
> http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/110845662
>
> Jon described the trip he took to Eurobodalla, the discovery of the
> gravestones on top of the hill, and the life of Charles Harpur. A good
> read.
>
> If you google map at the intersection of Eurobodalla Road &
> Nerrigundah Mountain Road, look at the base of the hill, you will see
> a rock which has 2 plaques attached to it. One for Charles Sr., the
> poet, the other for Charles Jr. (A project funded by the Local
> Government Bicentennial Initiatives Grants Program.)
>
> As to where George Manusu & Edward Stormon's graves are remains a
> mystery.
>
> Regards, Cathrine
Thanks Cathrine,
Regards, Ian
BAILEY
From: Ann Lopez
Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2015 9:09 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Bailey, Joseph (I191682)
Proposed Change: Bailey, Joseph (I191682)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I191682&tree=MP
Description: Hello, I am enquiring about Joseph Bailey, son of John and Elizabeth Bailey. He is my 2 x great grandfather. My records show he died in 1928 at his home in Lawson and/or his daughter's home in Leichhardt, NSW on 22 April,1928, aged 69. According to his death certificate, he was born in Cooma in 1859. His father John listed as a drover. He was married to Louisa Butler from the Patricks Plains region of the Hunter Valley. Family legend has it that he was part of a stock run taking cattle to Normanton in North Queensland in the late 1880's. His bride to be Louisa travelled by ship alone to meet him there where they married and had 2 children, Queenie Norma and Rueben John William Bailey. They returned to Sydney via Singleton where a 3rd child was born, Martha who died as an infant in 1893. I believe he is from the Bailey family of the Monaro region but of course your records point to him as dying in Ulmarra the same year. Further evidence points to him coming from this region as he is listed as living in Newtown in 1915, his address listed as Carlisle St, "Monaro"being the house name.
I would appreciate any information you could provide me on the Bailey family and where Joseph may fit in.
Kind regards, Ann Lopez
Hi Ann,
Thanks for the information, I will amend our records accordingly. All the information we have on the Bailey family is available on our website.
Regards, Ian
LINDSAY
From: Peter
Willis
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2015 3:51 PM
Subject: Re:
John LINDSAY (ID I136821) Newsletter 8-2013
Hi Monaro Pioneer’s
In November 2014 I came across the Monaro Pioneer webpage. Therefrom I noted the John Lindsay enquiry by researchers Mr & Mrs Jennings in the archived newsletters. By definition, John Lindsay is my Great Great Uncle being that his youngest sister Mary Ann Lindsay is my Great Grandmother.
Family researcher’s knowledge of the Lindsay family is limited and until six months ago we were only aware of the existence of Mary Ann and some information post 1872.
John Lindsay:
Following the death of their mother Catherine in 1852, the five eldest children (Margaret, John, William [Jno], George, Peter) were admitted into ORMOND HOUSE Paddington NSW on 22nd December 1852. Mary Ann was admitted on the 26th April 1854 with her age being recorded as 2years2months.Official Registration records states the family were of the Presbyterian faith & that Catherine was deceased. [Sourced from actual copies of the ORMOND HOUSE admissions register supplied by NSW State Government Records]
Admissions to the Institution could be apprenticed from the age of 12 but remained under Institutional responsibility until reaching 19yo.
On the 5th September 1856, John was apprenticed to the Rev Thomas Druitt of Christ Church Cooma along with his eldest sister Margaret. (Mary Ann was apprenticed in 1861 to Rev Druitt.)
(The following has been sourced mainly from the Manaro Mercury)
By January 1870 John operated a Carrier Business between Cooma & the coast (Merimbula). It is understood that horses were used in the haulage.
In 1871 he married Margaret White (no additional information known)
By 1892, John had accumulated various rural properties in and around Cooma exceeding 100 acres in total.
Between 1881 & 1909 John served on the Jury at Cooma Court House on an irregular basis.
In both 1904 & 1907 John was elected to the Council of Commoners for Cooma Commons.
Also there were a few passing references of no significance noted during the research.
The death of John was announced in the Manaro Mercury 9th July 1928 – having passed away the previous Thursday. Cause of Death was pneumonia. At the time of death the family residence was in Hill Street Cooma. His wife Margaret had died several months earlier. (Details unknown)
John & Margaret had one daughter Margaret Isabella Lindsay. She was born in 1876 and known as “Bella”.
My only knowledge of Bella was her obituary that appeared in the Goulburn Evening Post 6th June 1941. Bella had been admitted to Kenmore Hospital Goulburn on 20th December 1927 suffering depression. She was an unrestricted patient & remained in residence for the remainder of her 63 years. Bella never married. On 26th May 1941, whilst walking along the banks of the Wollondilly River Bella slipped on rocks falling into the river & was drowned. The coroner’s inquest determined that the death was an accidental drowning and not suicide. (The newspaper report is fairly detailed)
Of John’s Siblings:
Margaret Lindsay was apprenticed to Rev Druitt 5th September 1856. She married Samuel Hain in 1863 & over the following four decades built a substantial retail business and large property portfolio in Cooma. Samuel died as a result of a Buggy accident in 1899 & Margaret died of influenza in 1918.
Peter Lindsay died 2nd October 1859 whilst in residence at Ormond House (by now known as Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children). He was buried at St Jude’s Anglican Church Randwick 3rd October 1859. The coronial report was published in full detail in the Sydney newspaper “The Empire” on 4th October 1859. It confirmed his death was as the result of Congestive Apoplexy and Peter had a previously undiagnosed Brain disease. (There was also a brief reference in the Sydney Morning Herald 8th October 1859)
Mary Ann Lindsay was apprenticed to the Rev Druitt in 1861 although only 9yo. She married Henry James Willis on the 11th December 1872 in the presence of her sister Mrs Margaret Hain. (See the Sydney Morning Herald 30th December 1872) Henry & Mary Ann established a Brick Manufacturing business in Cooma which was successfully operated until Henry’s retirement. Mary Ann died in 1930 following a short illness.
William Lindsay (Jno) was assigned to Dr H Douglass (a Member Of Parliament & Medical Doctor) on 17th July 1857. The Monaro Pioneers web page indicates his death in 1927 in Young NSW. However I am unable to confirm whether this is correct as the obituary in the newspaper has a three year discrepancy in age. It also states that William was a native of Grenfell & moved to Young during the Gold rush. (See Grenfell & Lachlan Advertiser 16th May 1927)
George Lindsay was apprenticed to Mr Hindmarsh of Kiama in October 1860. The Hindmarsh family were the principal pioneer family of that region & still have a major role there today. The Monaro Pioneer web page indicates his death in 1897 in Paddington NSW. However it is possible that this is incorrect as there is a 20 year age difference between George‘s age & that of the deceased recorded in the newspaper obituary. (See Sydney Morning Herald 26th May 1897)
Footnote on ORMOND HOUSE (From 1857 called The Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children)
Ormond House was established in June 1852 to cater for destitute children who were ineligible for adoption. Surviving parents of children admitted to care were required to make a financial contribution for their upkeep. It was established with support of the Government to address the chronic issues associated with existing orphanages. The standard of care for the children was significantly improved. (Note: John was recorded as the 62nd admission to the Institution.)
(See Sydney Newspaper “The Empire” 17th January 1860 and 4th January 1861 for profiles on Randwick Asylum. An alternate critical review of the Parramatta Orphanage appeared 14th July 1860 & explains the need for Ormond House –Randwick Asylum)
The Lindsay parents:
I have been unable to confirm any details regarding William Lindsay (SNR). It appears that the name was reasonably common in that period making correct identification almost impossible without a confirmed event.
However a webpage with an association to the Hain family (refer “Turnbull Clan”) states Catherine’s maiden name was Catherine Wilson however no prior ancestral information was listed.
Having exhausted a number of potential identities; I have entertained the remote possibility that William Lindsay (snr) and Catherine Wilson may be those who were passengers & travelled in separate family groups on the “Lady Kennaway” in 1838. The ship left Leith, Scotland in April 1838 with around 280 assisted migrants & arrived in Sydney 11th August 1838. All passengers were listed as Protestant (Unspecified) religion. However at best this is guesswork but may assist further research if not previously considered. I became aware that the William Lindsay from that voyage “disappeared” from his family researches from 1841. Catherine is of the correct age.
Although the above does not provide a great deal of information concerning the Lindsay’s I hope my small contribution may be of some assistance (even if it is 18 months late).
Regards
On Account: Willis-Burke
Hi Peter,
Thank you for the information.
Regards, Ian
COLLINS
From: Liz Martel
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2015 11:01 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Collins, Henry John (I129652)
Proposed Change: Collins, Henry John (I129652)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I129652&tree=MP
Description: The records state that Henry John Collins was wounded on Gallipoli on 27 August 1915. I think this has been a topographical error, as the actual correct date is 07 August 1915. Which is also the date of the battle of Lone Pine although, without all my records to hand, I am unable to confirm whether he was actually wounded at this site. His date of death is correct, according to military records. I am still unable to confirm being related to him, but some of his and his families belonging were found amongst my Grandmother's belonging after she passed away, her maiden name was also Collins.
Liz Martel
Thank you for the information,
Regards, Ian
SHEEDY
On 20/01/2015 15:47, Warwick McCall wrote:
> Proposed Change: Sheedy, John (I168525)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I168525&tree=MP
>
> Description: Death info
>
> Death of Mr. John Sheedy
> The death occurred on Monday afternoon at Nurse McInerney's Pines
> Hospital of an old resident of the Goulburn district, in the person of
> Mr. John Sheedy, of Tarago, at the age of 61 years and six months. He
> had been in the hospital only a week, death being due to heart
> failure.
> He was a native of Canberra, and was a son of the late Mr. and Mrs.
> Michael Sheedy.
> Mr. Sheedy conducted the Victoria Hotel at Bungonia for a period of
> five and a half years, and about two and a half years ago he assumed
> control of the Lake Bathurst Hotel at Tarago. He is survived by a
> widow but no children. Mrs. Harris and Mrs. McInnes, both of
> Queanbeyan, and Mrs. Flanagan, of Sydney, are sisters of the deceased.
> Queanbeyan Age and Queanbeyan Observer, Friday 2 February 1917 Page 3
>
> Warwick McCall
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
APPLEBY
From: Valma Hick
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2015 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Newsletter 12 - Appleby - Connections
Ian,
Thank you for the sending me Belinda's contact details. Much appreciated. We have been in contact and are now exchanging family information.
Cheers, Valma
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valma Hick
> Sent: Sunday, 11 January 2015 9:01 PM
> To: Ian Harvey
> Subject: Newsletter 12 - Appleby - Connections
>
> Hello Ian,
> Could you please give me contact details for Belinda Watson - her grt grandfather Roy M. Appleby the son of Joseph Appleby & Catherine (Kate) O'Neil.
> Joseph brother of my great grandfather William Appleby. (William Appleby mar Mary Jane Summerell). I would be delighted to share our Appleby information with her.
> Kind Regards, Valma
Your very welcome Valma, I am glad you have a successful connection.
Regards, Ian
SMITH
From: Robyn Watts
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2015 6:00 PM
Subject:
Smith family information
Hi Ian
This is a bit “way out there” but I am hoping you may be able to help.
I was recently perusing my father’s army service record and on it was listed his Next of Kin and the name listed was Yvonne Emerald Agars (nee Smith) from Bega in NSW.
I googled this name and it brought me to the basic information on Rootsweb (Ancestry) and I noted that it said under the scant information that there was a “living female child”.
Now my father was divorced from Yvonne in about 1942 (she took one look at the farm and old house in South Australia out in the back blocks of nowhere and decided she didn’t like the look of it – understandably) and in later years he went on to marry my mother.
I believe that my father did not know of a child to this relationship and this female child would be my half-sister of whom no-one in the family is aware.
I have no information of her name or anything but believe she is still living. Is there any way I could find out from any other “Smith” family members if she is still alive/her name/and where she lives or a contact please?
The family information is, Yvonne’s father was VICTOR CRISPAN ONSLOW SMITH and he married LEILA MILLICIENT WILLIAMS. Their child was YVONNE EMERALD SMITH and my fathers name was MAXWELL JAMES AGARS. He died in 1982 in Elliston, South Australia.
Thank you for your time
Robyn Watts (nee Agars)
Hi Robyn,
I suggest you try our database search facility on our website www.monaropioneers.com where you will find more detail on the Smith Family. Unfortunately, the information we have received only refers to a female Smith (living) and we have no other details. However, this email will be included in our next newsletter and perhaps one or more of our readers may be able to assist you.
Regards, Ian
On 15/01/2015 14:11, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> My Dad was in Singapore, amongst other places on holidays back in
> September, and he gave me some photos of the cemetery which I had
> forgotten about until I noticed the cemeteries listed for Singapore.
>
> Photo 1:
>
> Column 124 I168432 Robertson, Keith
>
> I sent the 2nd picture as there a few names on the wall who are in the
> database.
>
> Column 122 I8144 Buckley, James Steve
>
> I246647 McGufficke, Norman McLaren
>
> Column 123 I353975 Hall, Francis Trevor
>
> Column 124 I167817 Mouat, Lester Edward
>
> I182327 North, Hilton Lawrence
>
> I354573 Sheldrick, Ernest Loyola
>
> Column 125 I257659 Walker, Leslie Raymond
>
> I353219 Williams, Ancel Arthur
>
> Column 126 I353822 Davis, Sidney Robert
>
> I170043 Hunter, Eric Luke Thomas
>
> Column 127 I357784 McAlister, Thomas John
>
> Regards Cathrine
Thank you Cathrine,
How sad!
Regards, Ian
BROWNLIE
From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2015 7:57 AM
Subject: Brownlie family information update
Hi Ian and David,
Below is some additional information for the MP Database:
Brownlie, Burnice May, I231031, buried at Korumburra General Cemetery VIC in 2007
Saario, Stanley Oscar, I231032, died 23 April 2014, buried on 2 May 2014 at Korumburra General Cemetery VIC
Brownlie, Gordon Henry, I231084, died 12 Nov 2013, buried on 19th Nov 2013 at Cann River Cemetery VIC
Brownlie, Ernest Hayden, I231099, buried on 2 Jan 2015, at Cann River Cemetery VIC, Lawn Section
Brownlie, Clarence Maxwell, I231079, died 1 June 2014
Mead, Stanley "Keith", I231051, born 10 Feb 1953, Orbost and died 28 Nov 2012 Bairnsdale, funeral service on 5th Dec 2012 Bairnsdale, private cremation
Mead, Leslie Allan, I231050, born in Orbost in 7th May 1949 and died 8th June 2014 at Cann River, buried on 19th June 2014 at Cann River Cemetery VIC, Lawn Section
Regards, Bruce
Thank you Bruce,
Your support of our project is much appreciated.
Regards, Ian
From: David
Baxter
Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2015 11:34 AM
Subject: David baxter moss vale
Hi Ian, My mother-in law went to Towamba school and I have just shown her the register with her and her family on it, she asked me if I could find any information on a school that she spent a lot of time in called NIAGRA or NIAGARA. Her name then was MARGARET BROWNLEE sometimes BROWNLIE. She was born in 1936 at Burragate. I have all her family history it is just that I could not find anything on the Niagra school.
Regards David Baxter.
Hi David,
Your email will appear in our next newsletter and I am sure one or more of our readers will be able to help you.
Regards, Ian
From: Peter Mc
Carthy
Sent: Tuesday, 13 January 2015 5:44 PM
Subject: Badja House
Hello Ian and David,
Thank you for connecting me to Michael Hawkins, Anne and Bob Norton also Linda Smith.
I have replied directly to each of the responses and look forward to their replies with great interest. I will in due course relate to you the outcome and the connection with ongoing research of WW1.
My wife also has a tenuous link to Cooma as her father ( Theo Psaros) was working for the Poteri brothers who conducted an oyster saloon in Cooma c 1915!
Best wishes
Peter McCarthy
From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Tuesday,
13 January 2015 7:47 AM
Subject: Facebook pages and adding Monaro Pioneers website to them
Hi Ian,
Below are four Facebook groups which have been active for the past 12 months.
Each one is exchanging knowledge, stories, memories, etc.
Each Facebook a person can join either as a Closed Group or a Public Group.
As these are closely linked to the Monaro Pioneers database, can I have your
permission to contact each administrator to the Facebook pages to see if the
Monaro Pioneers website can be added to each Facebook page?
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
History of the Monaro District - Closed Group
https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/monarohistory/
The Monaro District is rich in history and is where the roots of many pioneer
families lay. We invite people to interact, share knowledge, photos and
history and
join together to preserve more chapters of our wonderful history.
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
Bombala And Districts Old Time Photos
https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/283063951774289/
I set this site up because I love the history of Bombala and i would love to
share some of my old photos and would love to see any old photos the people of
Bombala and
Districts have the older the better please write a description of your photos
Eg. Names and places Thanks everyone and Enjoy :)
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
Cann River and Surounds
https://www.facebook.com/groups/562784500504670/
This Group is for pictures, stories and tails of the past and present because as
soon as it happens it’s the past. Recently I posted a picture in a group and it
was great to
hear of a girl in tears as she had never seen a photo of her dad before an
accident. So this why I have formed this Group so people can see photo, stories
of the past.
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..………………………………………………
History of Orbost and District
https://www.facebook.com/groups/758667127539210/
This page is about the pioneers and past and present residents of Orbost and
district to share their memories and photos of any kind.
Regards, Bruce Stubbs
Hi Bruce,
Certainly, please go ahead.
No doubt Monaro Pioneers should have its own Facebook page if only I had the
time???? Any volunteers?
Regards, Ian
Hi Ian and
David,
Thanks for allowing me to ask to get the Monaro Pioneers website on the Facebook
pages mentioned earlier. If you want a volunteer to do a Facebook page for the
Monaro Pioneers I am more than willing to do it.
Bruce
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the offer, if you know what to do then please feel free to undertake
the project. Let me know if your need anything to help in the process.
Regards, Ian
Hi Ian and David,
I have created a Facebook group page for the Monaro Pioneers at:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/893648944008345/
If either of you have a Facebook page, can you join to see if I have created the setting correctly?
I have set it up for now that I will approve any members and any posts that were created until further notice.
Regards, Bruce
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for your efforts creating the Facebook page. I am not a great user of Facebook myself, but I like what your have created.
Regards, Ian
FLETCHETT
From: Alison
Bradley
Sent: Monday, 12 January 2015 7:42 PM
Subject: Thomas Fletchett (Fletcher)
Hello Ian,
Regarding Thomas Fletchett (Fletcher aka Walker) born abt 1813 in Somersetshire, England and died 3rd Feb 1906 at Cambalong. On MP database it states he was a convict and came to Australia in 1833 on “Neva 111”. I have conflicting info that says Thomas was sentenced to 14 yrs in 1834 and came to the colony aboard “Waterloo”. Also that he was of a titled family and that his father, William, was the last of his family to assume the title. Thomas, not being a fit subject to receive the title. There are 3 males descending from him in Australia unable to claim the title.
On an 1851 England Census, it states that William, Thomas’s father, was a labourer as was one of his sons and another son was a blacksmith. Surely one would think if he was titled he would not be working as a labourer. How can I find out where this story of being titled came from. It is really baffling me and also my husband as it is his great great grandfather. Any light you can shed on this for us would be wonderful. Also on Thomas’s wife, Sarah Phebe McNamara, was she a convict or a free settler, and where did she come from? Many thanks Ian. You are doing a great job on MP.
Hi Alison,
Thank you for the kind words.
Do you have any documentary evidence that Thomas Fletchett arrived on the "Waterloo". From what I can find in the convict records online on Ancestry.Com the Thomas Flechett/Fletcher who arrived on the Waterloo was tried in Suffolk. Very confusing when there are two people with nearly identical details arriving so close together.
As to how you could substantiate the "claim" he was from a titled family I am unable to assist you unfortunately. Perhaps one of our newsletter readers can help?
Sarah McNamara came free to the colony.
Regards, Ian
Thank you Ian, I will have to dig deeper unless someone reads this and can throw some light on it for me.
Alison
Hello Ian,
I have searched the Australian Convict Transportation Register and the Thomas Fletcher/Fletchett aka Thomas Walker (his mother was Charlotte Walker) was also sentenced to 14 years, came out on the “Waterloo”, was convicted on 23rd July, 1834, and he was sent to Tasmania (Van Dieman’s Land), so I think this has solved the query, as our Thomas was sent to NSW. Yes, very confusing with same names, the clue was knowing that he used an alias and thankfully that showed up on the Register. I can’t find Sarah McNamara on the Free Immigration list that matches our Sarah, the only one that is listed arrived in 1845 on the Herald but in my records she married Thomas in 1842, maybe that is also wrong. Hopefully one of our MP readers can help.
Thank you again Ian.
Alison
KEEFE
On 12/01/2015 16:56, Steve Keefe wrote:
> Proposed Change: Keefe, Thomas (I2623)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I2623&tree=MP
>
> Description: I believe Thomas & Anastasia had a seventh child as
> follows:
> Mary Kathleen Keefe was born 1916, Berridale, NSW; died 24 Nov 1997,
> aged 81 years; was buried on 27 Nov 1997 at Woden Cemetery, ACT.
> Reference: ACT Death Certificate 1997/1389.
>
> Steve Keefe
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
McCARTHY
From: Linda Smith
Sent: 2015-01-12 8:14 AM
Subject: Re Peter Mcarthy
Hello Ian. I was wondering if Peter is related to Johann Arnold and Eva Susannah Schuppel. The family had the rocky hall guest house. Sorry for the spelling. Lola Workman's family. Frank Arnold, Geoff and Stan Umbach were cousins. We are related to the Owen Jones, descendants to George Arnold & Sarah Atkins 1871- 1946 from Pericoe. Lola has documented on ancestry and I have a copy of the history of the Arnold family. http://www.towambavalleyhistory.bravepages.com/Arnold.htm
Thanks Linda Smith n?e Bruce. My mum was Gwen Arnold.=
Hi Peter,
Another response to your email in our newsletter.
Regards, Ian Harvey
Monaro Pioneers Project
COMAN
On 12/01/2015 08:43, Cathrine Constable wrote:
> Proposed Change: Coman, William (I76418)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I76418&tree=MP
>
> Description: Hi Ian
>
> It appears that William was buried in the Moruya Cemetery.
>
> Freeman's Journal (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1932), Saturday 9 March 1895,
>
> DEATH OF AN OLD CATHOLIC COLONIST.
> The late William Coman, of Eurobodalla, a brief notice of whose death
> appeared in our last issue, was one of the oldest, if not the oldest,
> of the Catholic pioneers on the South Coast. The deceased gentleman
> (writes an esteemed correspondent) was born near Clonmel, County
> Tipperary, Ireland, in 1812, of a good old Catholic stock, and came to
> this colony in 1839, and with his parents and other members of the
> family settled near Moruya. He soon afterwards purchased some land
> near Kiora, where his father died. He was one of the first party that
> crossed to Gippsland droving cattle with Morris in the early days, and
> afterwards travelled extensively over the colony of Victoria. He
> eventually returned to New South Wales, where his brother James and he
> purchased Bumbo station. He subsequently acquired his brother's
> interest in this station. Then he became the owner of Eurobodalla
> station, where he lived for nearly 40 years up to the time of his
> death. Mr. Coman was an enthusiastic sportsman and a great lover of a
> good horse, and as a cattle-breeder was one of the most successful on
> the coast. The Eurobodalla station was well known to every traveller
> who passed through it, and the hospitality of the generous owner and
> his family is proverbial. Mr. Coman was married in 1842 to Alice
> Kirby, daughter of Edmund Kirby, then manager of the Kiora estate. The
> late Archbishop Kirby, known so long in connection with the Irish
> College at Rome, was a near relative of Mrs. Coman, Deceased leaves a
> widow and eleven children, seven sons and four daughters, all well
> known and highly respected in the Moruya and Bega electorates. The
> late Mr. Coman was a staunch, uncompromising Catholic, and in the evil
> penal days was the generous friend and advocate of many a poor convict
> of whatever creed. He was a great admirer of the FREEMAN, and a
> subscriber since its very start. He carefully preserved the first
> number till its destruction with other papers in the flood of 1870.
> The late Archbishop Vaughan was a guest at Eurobodalla on the occasion
> of both his visitations to the Moruya district, and in the course of
> an address in the Moruya church he referred to his stay at Eurobodalla
> with evident pleasure, specifying Mr. Coman and his family as 'amongst
> those who would maintain the Catholic religion in its majesty and
> purity." The late Archbishop Polding, Cardinal Moran, and Bishop
> Higgins always found a home at Eurobodalla, while on their episcopal
> tours. In fact Eurobodalla was well known to all members of the
> priesthood who visited the South Coast. Mr. Coman during his long life
> enjoyed excellent health till within a few weeks of his death, and had
> the consolation of receiving the last rites of Holy Church from Father
> Cassidy, P.P., Moruya, who attended him to the last. All his children
> and his only surviving brother, and sister were present when he
> passed, away, to receive, we hope, his eternal reward.
> He was buried in the family burying-ground in the Catholic cemetery,
> Moruya, the large numbers who followed his remains to the grave
> testifying to the respect in which he was held during life. The late
> Mr. Coman was a fine type of the Irish Catholic gentleman^ honourable,
> generous, and hospitable, and one of whom it may be truly said that
> "he never had an enemy." He died full of years and honour, and from
> many a heart besides those of his kindred a fervent prayer will be
> offered to Heaven that the soul of this venerable and pious Christian
> may find everlasting rest.
>
> Regards, Cathrine
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BRIDLES
From: Maree Myhill
Date: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:58 PM
Subject:
Fwd: Re. Bridles are Adaminaby, New Year's Day
Hi David & Ian,
Happy New Year to all at Monaro Pioneers.
I thought you may be interested in the story below, about a Bridle family reunion at Adaminaby on New Year's Day, which I also sent to the Tumut & Cooma papers.
My father, Clyde Bridle, who is the only surviving member of the Jim & Clara (nee Green) Bridle family, turned 91 today & is still going strong.
Kind regards, Maree Myhill (nee Bridle)
Hello to Tumut & Cooma paper editors,
The following story & photographs may be of interest to you, re. the Bridle family spending the day at Adaminaby on New Year's Day. Clyde Bridle from Tumut is the only remaining member of the Bridle family of Jim & Clara, & is aged 90 years. The day at Adaminaby was spent visiting old family properties.
Kind regards,
Maree Myhill (nee Bridle)
Captions for photos:
1. The Bridle family gathered at Pheasant Hill, Adaminaby on New Year's Day. Left to right - Owen Bridle & Noel Bridle (Tumut), Jim Clugston (Canberra), Clyde Bridle & Janet Howard (Tumut), Stephen Thorp (Cooma), Maree Myhill (Young), Leslie Clugston & June Dean (Queanbeyan) & Lurline Thorp (Cooma).
2. The Bridle family at Adaminaby on New Year's Day. Left to right - Owen Bridle (Tumut), Maree Myhill (Young), Noel Bridle (Tumut), Leslie Clugston (Queanbeyan), Clyde Bridle (Tumut), Lurline Thorp (Cooma), June Dean (Queanbeyan), Janet Howard (Tumut), Jim Clugston (Canberra) & Stephen Thorp (Cooma).
Bridle Reunion on New Year’s Day at Adaminaby
Descendants of Jim and Clara Bridle (from East Blowering and Tumut) met at Adaminaby on New Year’s Day. Clyde Bridle is the only remaining child of Jim and Clara, at almost 91 years of age, and was joined by nieces and nephews from Tumut, Cooma, Canberra, Queanbeyan, and his daughter from Young for the day.
The group met at Adaminaby’s Big Trout for morning tea. From there, they drove along the Bugtown Road to the old Bridle property, known as ‘Pheasant Hill’, which was 8 miles from Old Adaminaby. Clyde’s brother Jack Bridle was known to say, “There were no pheasants, no bugs and no town”. (The term pheasants may have referred to native lyrebirds around the area.) They found interesting old items scattered around the old house site and dam, including a cast iron boiler and a single furrow plough. Jim and Clara’s other eight children were all born at Adaminaby, when they resided at ‘Pheasant Hill’ from 1906 to 1920, before they moved to Blowering, near Tumut. The children went to Hollymount, a subsidised bush-school, where they walked 4 miles to the school. Jim had the Yaouk to Adaminaby mail run for many years, a round trip of 40 miles 3 times a week on horseback.
A picnic lunch was shared under a shady tree on the property, where Clyde proposed a toast of “Happy New Year” to everyone.
The convoy then drove to the old property known as ‘Bugtown’, 2 miles further along the creek, then back to ‘Glynwood’, the old Green family property which belonged to the Bridle siblings’ grandparents. The Bridle family often walked the 2 miles to visit them. The original brandmark of ‘AGG’, of Andy Green of Glynwood, was taken for display on the day. None of these original old buildings survive, but several trees are now the landmarks of these properties, namely gums and fruit trees at ‘Pheasant Hill’, poplars and fruit trees at ‘Bugtown’ and pine trees at ‘Glynwood’.
It was a wonderful day of reminiscing, remembering stories heard over the past 90 years and the Bridle folk no longer with us, including Jack and Naomi Bridle, Rolfe Bridle, Kitty and Duncan Prosser from Tumut, and Trixie and Ronald Clugston from Adaminaby.
From: Sue Lambert
Sent: Sunday, 11 January 2015 1:31 PM
Subject:
Pioneers
Hi Ian,
Thank you for your wonderful Monaro Pioneers site. I look forward to it each time.
Just a quick question......what period of time do you consider families to be pioneers? Is 1870 too recent to be included?
Thank you,
Kind regards, Sue Lambert
Hi Sue,
Thanks for the kind words, we do have some families listed who came to the area in the 1870s.
Regards, Ian
MORTLOCK
From: Robyn Young
Sent: Sunday, 11 January 2015 11:57 AM
Subject:
Mortlock
Genealogy
Ian
Could you please delete or change the photo on the John Thomas Mortlock site. They have it as Mary(Maria) Mortlock nee Pegram which is incorrect This poor lady is always getting mixed up. As you can see from the Memorial Photo she is Katherine Mortlock who died 26 Apr 1906. She married Thomas Mortlock & is the daughter of Samuel Herbert & Eliza Brown. Her correct maiden name was Katherine (Kitty) Cerokess Herbert. I am an descendant of the Mortlock/Parker line.
Regards Robyn Young
Hi Robyn,
Thank you for letting us know.
Regards, Ian
BODALLA ESTATE CEMETERY
On 10/01/2015 16:03, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> Bodalla Estate Cemetery NSW.
>
> Photo 1: ID:73599 - Frederick Cyril Constable
>
> ID:73434 - Mavis Irene Constable (nee Maples)
>
> Photo 2: ID:116618 - Robert Constable
>
> Photo 3: ID:116610 - Eva Annie Edith Constable (nee Lavis)
>
> Photo 4: ID:116620 - Daniel Constable
>
> ID:116616 - Beatrice Ada Constable (nee Lavis)
>
> Regards, Cathrine
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BODALLA ESTATE CEMETERY
On 10/01/2015 16:31, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> BODALLA STATE CEMETERY
>
> Photo 1: ID: - Darryl Ian Constable - son of Frederick Cyril Constable
> (73599) & Mavis Irene Constable (nee Maples) (73434)
>
> Photo 2: ID:171509 - William James Constable
>
> Photo 3: ID:171510 - Emily Selina Constable (nee Sutherland)
>
> Photo 4: ID:155797 - Eric Rolland Constable
>
> Regards, Cathrine
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
On 10/01/2015 16:48, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> Photo 1: ID:116776 - Leslie William Lavis
>
> ID:116765 - Alice Lavis (nee Constable)
>
> Photo 2: ID:203681 - Valda Marie Maples (nee Constable)
>
> Photo 3: ID:110287 - William James Constable
>
> Photo 4: ID:171511 - Winifred Doris Constable (nee Reed)
>
> Photo 5: ID:105323 - Robert Cyril Lavis ( 7 November 1916 - 3 September 1974)
>
> Regards, Cathrine
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
WATLING
On 10/01/2015 15:20, Warwick McCall wrote:
> Proposed Change: Watling, Samuel (I69006)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I69006&tree=MP
>
> Description: Question death date.
>
> Fatal Accident. -
> Yesterday Dr. Waugh held an inquest at the Harrow Inn, Towrang, on the
> body of Samuel Watling, farmer aged forty nine years. Ellen Watling,
> the daughter of the deceased, deposed that on the previous day she and
> her father were travelling in a cart drawn by one horse ; in
> attempting to avoid a boggy place one of the wheels came against a
> tree, by which the cart was capsized ; witness jumped out, but the
> cart fell upon her father, who said I am dying, witness was unable to
> lift off the cart, so went for assistance; when extricated deceased
> was quite dead. James Hawkins deposed that he was called by last
> witness; found deceased lying on the ground, with the side of the dray
> resting on his chest; he was quiet dead.- Dr Hanford deposed that from
> hearing the evidence of previous witnesses he had no doubt Hint death
> was caused from internal haemorrhage ; the ribs were literally
> flattened down upon the viscorn. - The jury returned a verdict of
> accidental death.- Goulburn Herald.
> Illawarra Mercury, Tuesday 24 September 1867
>
> Warwick McCall
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BERMAGUI GENERAL CEMETERY
On 10/01/2015 15:09, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> Photo 1: Bermagui General Cemetery, NSW ID:104798 - Lionel John
> Constable
>
> ID:83733 - Phyllis Amy Henrietta Constable (nee Smith)
>
> The following headstone are Lionel & Phyllis' sons. I was absolutely
> gobsmacked when I stumbled across this plaque. I was so not expecting,
> or was looking for that, a nice little find. I was delighted to find
> inscribed the parents & siblings names on it or I would never have
> known who these men belonged to. A newspaper article re: Lionel &
> Phyllis' fatal road accident indicated that there were 3 boys, 3 girls
> so that's what I had been looking for.
>
> Photo 2: Wollongong Lawn Cemetery, Kembla Grange, NSW ID: Gene William
> (Jim) Constable
>
> ID: Arthur Leslie (China) Constable
>
> Photo 3: Bermagui General Cemetery, NSW ID:73460 - Raymond James Ginns
>
> ID:73462 - Alma May Ginns (nee Constable)
>
> Regards, Cathrine Constable
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
NOWRA GENERAL CEMETERY
On 10/01/2015 14:24, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> Photo 1. Nowra General Cemetery, NSW. ID:171532 - Cecil Constable
>
> ID:171533 - Joyce Isabel Constable (nee Reed)
>
> The following headstones are of Cecil & Joyce's deceased children.
>
> Photo 2: Nowra General Cemetery, NSW ID: Stanley Cecil Constable
>
> Born 5 Dec 1939, Moruya NSW.
>
> Died 14 April 1978, Toowoomba QLD 1978/C2329 (accidental drowning)
>
> Photo 3: Nowra General Cemetery, NSW ID: Barry John Constable
>
> Died 15 October 1951, Nowra NSW 29939/1951. Age 9 yrs.
>
> Photo 4: Nowra General Cemetery NSW ID: Judith Ann Constable
>
> Died 22 August 1958, Camperdown Children's Hospital NSW, 16555/1958.
> Aged 22 months.
>
> Regards, Cathrine Constable
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
PAMBULA CEMETERY
On 10/01/2015 11:38, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> More Pambula cemetery headstones
>
> Photo 1: Catholic section ID:12663 - Charles Edward Bray
>
> ID:12662 - Bessie Bray (nee Robertson)
>
> Photo 2: Old Catholic section ID:37542 - Thomas O'Mara Bray
>
> Photo 3: Catholic section ID:77846 - William Melville Bray
>
> Photo 4: Catholic section ID:284481 - Timothy O'Mara Bray
>
> Regards, Cathrine Constable
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
PAMBULA CEMETERY
On 10/01/2015 11:25, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> Pambula cemetery headstones.
>
> Photo 1: Old Catholic section ID: 10288- Thomas Bray
>
> Thomas' Headstone Inscription
>
> THOMAS BRAY
>
> Died 17 October 1894
>
> Aged 79 years
>
> Sweet Jesus have mercy on his soul
>
> Released form sorrow sin and pain.
>
> And freed from every care by angels hands
>
> to heaven conveyed to rest for ever there.
>
> Photo 2: Old Catholic section ID: 38137- Daniel Bray
>
> Daniel's Headstone Inscription
>
> In Loving Memory of Daniel Bray
>
> Beloved son of T & J Bray
>
> Died 29 March 1897
>
> Aged 43 years
>
> May his soul rest in peace
>
> Photo 3: Catholic section ID: 10252 - Timothy Thomas Bray
>
> Photo 4: Catholic section ID:12375 - Mary Ann Pearl Bray (nee Grant)
>
> Regards, Cathrine Constable
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
WATLING
From: Warwick McCall
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2015 8:26 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Watling, James (I86718)
Proposed Change: Watling, James (I86718)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I86718&tree=MP
Description: OBITUARY.
MR. JAMES WATLING.
Mr. James Watling, an old resident of Wedderburn and Appin, died on Thursday morning of last week, 9th April, at his son's residence, Denbigh, Cobbitty, at the advanced age of 83 years.
Deceased had only been in residence at Denbigh a few weeks, but for 21 years he had resided at Wedderburn, and on his retirement from agricultural work went to live with his son at Appin. He was born at Goulburn where he spent the early years of his life, then as a grazier carried on his pursuits at Lake George, Bungendore, and was in that district for some thirty years, before leaving for Wedderburn.
He is survived by his wife, three sons and one daughter. Members of the family are: Nathaniel, of Goulburn; Richard, of Denbigh, Cobbitty; Herbert, of Appin ; Ruby, Mrs. Todkill, of Brayton. There are 20 grandchildren and 10 great grandchildren. Mr. Benjamin Watling of Boxers Creek, near Goulburn, is a brother of deceased, and Mrs. Murdoch, of Camden, is a sister; Mrs. Wilmot is a step-sister. The funeral took place on Friday afternoon at St. Peter'
Church of England, Campbelltown, the Rev. J. F. Rofe, and the Rev. J. T.
Phair; R. D., performed the last sad rites. Mrs. Rofe officiated at the organ at the church service.
Camden News, Thursday 16 April 1942
Warwick McCall
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
Subject: BEGA CEMETERY
On 10/01/2015 10:34, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> All of these headstones are in the Catholic section, Bega Cemetery
> NSW.
>
> Photo 1: ID: 15014 - Catherine Underhill (nee Bray)
>
> ID: 133086 - Sarah Janet Diversi (nee Underhill)
>
> ID:133078 - Victor Emanuel Diversi
>
> Photo 2: ID: 133088 - John Diversi &
>
> ID:133090 - Sarah Janet Diversi (nee Tozer)
>
> Photo 3: ID: - Augustus (Gus) Bray
>
> Augustus is the youngest son of Johanna Bray (nee O'Mara) (38184).
>
> Unable to locate a NSW Birth index for him. NSW death index
> 37499/1970, Bega NSW.
>
> Parents are listed as Daniel & Johanna but I don't believe that
> Daniel was his father
>
> as Daniel died March 1897 and Augustus wasn't born until October
> 1899. Raises some
>
> Doubts.
>
> Regards, Cathrine Constable
Thank you Cathrine,
Regards, Ian
Subject: BEGA CEMETERY
On 10/01/2015 10:30, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> Photo 1: Catholic Section ID: 168411 - Harold Coulson Bray
>
> Either the actual year of birth is wrong on the headstone or his WW2
> information.
>
> I tend to think the headstone is wrong as he is Darcy's older
> brother.
>
> Regards, Cathrine Constable
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
Subject: BEGA CEMETERY
On 09/01/2015 18:01, Rob Constable wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> All of these headstones are in the Catholic section, Bega Cemetery
> NSW.
>
> Photo 1: ID: 15014 - Catherine Underhill (nee Bray)
>
> ID: 133086 - Sarah Janet Diversi (nee Underhill)
>
> ID:133078 - Victor Emanuel Diversi
>
> Photo 2: ID: 133088 - John Diversi &
>
> ID:133090 - Sarah Janet Diversi (nee Tozer)
>
> Photo 3: ID: - Augustus (Gus) Bray
>
> Augustus is the youngest son of Johanna Bray (nee O'Mara) (38184).
>
> Unable to locate a NSW Birth index for him. NSW death index
> 37499/1970, Bega NSW.
>
> Parents are listed as Daniel & Johanna but I don't believe that
> Daniel was his father
>
> as Daniel died March 1897 and Augustus wasn't born until October
> 1899. Raises some
>
> Doubts.
>
> Photo 4: ID: 168411 - Harold Coulson Bray
>
> Either the actual year of birth is wrong on the headstone or his WW2
> information.
>
> I tend to think the headstone is wrong as he is Darcy's older
> brother.
>
> Regards, Cathrine Constable
Thank you Cathrine,
Regards, Ian
From: Rob Constable
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2015 5:27 PM
Subject:
BEGA
CEMETERY
Hi Ian
All of the headstones are in Bega Cemetery NSW.
Photo 1. General Section ID: 168417 – Daphne Bray (nee Robertson) &
ID: 168433 – Dulcie Murphy (nee Robertson
Photo 2. General Section ID: 168416 – Darcy Bray
Photo 3. General Section ID: 10282 – Daniel Clarence Bray
Photo 4. Catholic Section ID: 37541 – Olive May Schafer (nee Bray)
I previously informed you that Daniel Clarence Bray was in the Catholic Section, but after taking a photo of the cemetery layout sign, I discovered that I was wrong. Daniel’s religion is catholic though.
I have more photos I need to send you.
Regards, Cathrine Constable
Thank you Cathrine,
Your generous support is much appreciated.
Regards, Ian
McGREGOR
From: Ben Hardy
Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2015 1:48 PM
Subject:
Pls add
to database McGregor
Good morning Ian,
My name is Ben Hardy and I am one of the descendants of the James McGregor http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I112043&tree=MP
I’m doing a bid of work and wanted to know how I can update the Monaro pioneer site with photos / news clippings etc
Here is a WW1 photo of Raymond James Basil Hardy I would like to add.
I look forward in hearing from you.
Kind regards, Ben Hardy
Thank you Ben,
I have added your photo to the record of Raymond James Basil Hardy.
Regards, Ian
Thanks Ian,
If I have any more photos I will send them on for you to update.
Kind regards, Ben Hardy
HYLAND
On 07/01/2015 17:24, Vicki Sanger wrote:
> Proposed Change: Hyland, Claude Vincent (I27520)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I27520&tree=MP
>
> Description: Children: 1. Effie Josephine Hyland born 2 Oct 1922 Died
> 10 Aug 2009
> Married H A Francis.
> 2. Lorna Alice Hyland born 26 April 1925 Quaama Buried 18 Dec 2009 St
> Paul's Cambridge Park NSW Married Eric Nelson Bayliss 6 Nov 1945 Nth
> Sydney NSW. Eric died 11 March 1976.
> 3. M N Hyland
>
> Vicki Sanger
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
HYLAND
From: Vicki Sanger
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2015 5:48 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Family: Hyland, Ernest Charles/Stove, Ethel Jean (F26949)
Proposed Change: Family: Hyland, Ernest Charles/Stove, Ethel Jean (F26949)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F26949&tree=MP
Description: 1. Errol George Hyland born 3 April 1931 Bemboka Died Oct 2004 Merimbula. Buried 26 Oct 2004 Pambula Cemetery. Married Gwen Rodd 4 November 1950 Methodist Church Bega.
Gwen Rodd born 17 Sept 1931 Pambula. Died 12 July 1989 Pambula.
2. Elaine Marjorie Hyland born 22 April 1933 Bega. Died 28 July 1973 Orbost Vic.
3. D W Hyland
4. J M Hyland
5. Geoffrey Gordon Hyland born 23 Jan 1941 Pambula. Died 26 Sept 1945 Sydney.
6. Robert John Hyland born 19 May 1945 Pambula. Died 13 April 1997 Hospice Nth Shore Auckland New Zealand.Married Robyn Margaret Drummond 1963 Eden.
Robyn born 9 Jan 1948 Camperdown Died 23 Jan 2002 Wangaratta Vic 7. D R Hyland
Vicki Sanger
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
TAYLOR
Subject: Re: Proposed Change: Taylor, F.B. (I253461)
Date: 07/01/2015 17:05
On 07/01/2015 16:46, Vicki Sanger wrote:
> Proposed Change: Taylor, F.B. (I253461)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I253461&tree=MP
>
> Description: Frederic Basil Taylor Born 26 December 1932 Cobargo Died
> 23 September 2011 Bega
>
> Vicki Sanger
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
TAYLOR
On 07/01/2015 16:48, Vicki Sanger wrote:
> Proposed Change: Taylor, E.M. (I253463)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
> Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I253463&tree=MP
>
> Description: Eva Marie Taylor born 19 April 1926 Quaama Died 5 August 2007 Bega
>
> Vicki Sanger
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
MORGAN
Subject: Re: Sarah Jane Morgan [Sep 1861 - Jun 1943]
On 06/01/2015 10:27, Neil Smith wrote:
> Hello Folks,
>
> From what I have found the captioned lady married twice.
>
> The first marriage was to James Henry Griffin which did not last very
> long.
>
> Goulburn Herald (NSW : 1881 - 1907), Thursday 15 March 1883. [MC 240]
>
> MARRIED. FEBRUARY 23rd 1883, at St. Luke's Church, Sydney, by the Rev.
> T. W. Unwin, JAMES HENRY GRIFFIN, mariner, of Sydney, to SARAH JANE,
> third daughter of Mrs. E. MORGAN, Sugarloaf, Tarlo.
>
> James Henry Griffin was shot dead over another woman in Feb 1884.
>
> Evening News (Sydney, NSW : 1869 - 1931), Wednesday 12 March 1884.
>
> The Surry Hills Tragedy. LOVE AND JEALOUSY. A JEALOUS BUTCHER SHOOTS
> HIS RIVAL.
>
> At the Central Criminal Court to-day, before his Honor the Chief
> Justice, William Rice, a young man described as a butcher, was
> arraigned upon an indictment charging him with that he did feloniously
> kill one James Griffin, a sailor, at No. 59, Phelp-street, Surry
> Hills, on the afternoon of February 28.
>
> The second marriage was long lasting. On 11th Oct 1886 [MC 4312 -
> source Patricia Hayward] she married Hugh Gordon Patterson.
>
> Goulburn Evening Post (NSW : 1940 - 1954), Thursday 17 June 1943.
>
> MRS. H. G. PATTERSON A very old resident of Murringo, Mrs. Sarah Jane
> Patterson, wife of Mr. Hugh Gordon Patterson, and mother of five sons
> and two daughters, died on Saturday afternoon last in the young
> District Hospital, to which she was taken by ambulance a few days
> before. The late Mrs. Patterson was a native of Goulburn, the daughter
> of the late Mr. and Mrs. J. Morgan, of that city, and was 83 years of
> age. She married Mr. Patterson in 1886, at the age of 24 years, and
> went to live at Murringo 46 years ago. Both were highly respected and
> popular, although Mrs. Patterson was always a great woman for her own
> home and family. Five sons and a daughter survive their mother, one
> having predeceased her. Two sons are with the military forces. The
> surviving children are: Ruby Hilda, (Mrs. Ben Smith, Murringo), Robert
> (Murringo), Albert (known as "Buddy." A. I. F.), Francis (Wanbanumba),
> Allen (A.I.F.), and Lawrence. There are 26 grandchildren and three
> great-grandchildren.
>
> Boorowa News (NSW : 1951 - 1954), Friday 30 April 1954.
>
> OBITUARY - MR. H. G. PATTERSON [Born 10th April 1858 - Manar Station
> Braidwood to David Patterson and Thirza Rex]
>
> The death occurred at Murringo on April 13 of Mr. Hugh Gordon
> Patterson, at the age of 94 years. Deceased was a resident of Murringo
> for the past 57 years. He was born at Braidwood in 1858, and at Dubbo
> in 1883 married Sarah Jane Morgan, who predeceased him. For many years
> at Murringo he followed his occupation of saddler. He is survived by
> five sons and one daughter. The sons are Robert, Albert and Lawrence
> (Murringo), Francis (Leichhardt) and Allan (Port Macquarie). The
> daughter is Ruby (Mrs. Ben Smith, Murringo). He was predeceased by one
> other daughter, Isobel. Rev. A. A. Smith, of Boorowa, officiated at
> the Murringo church service and at the graveside in the Church of
> England portions of the Murringo cemetery. Pallbearers were sons
> Robert, Albert, Lawrence and Frank Patterson. In charge of funeral
> arrangements were Messrs. Patterson Bros., of Young. The casket was
> covered with many beautiful floral tributes.
>
> Cheers Neil Smith
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
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