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Monaro Pioneers Newsletter
2015
Number 12
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
The
Monaro Pioneers website now has its own Facebook page which is accessible at the
following URL:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/893648944008345/
CURRENT CORRESPONDENCE:
STEVENSON/ALLAN
From:
Wally Sue sims
Sent: 5 January, 2016 9:18 PM
Subject:
I would like to be able to contact Donald Barry who has contributed information
on John Stevenson and James Allan in 2012 newsletter as I am descended from them
also. Is this possible, thankyou, Sue Sims.
Hi Sue,
We can add your request to our next newsletter and hopefully encourage a
response for you.
Regards, Ian
Hi Sue,
The only email address I have for Donald Barry is
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cheers
David Knox
Newsletter Editor
O’HARE
From: Carol Ogilvy-Garnock
Sent: 5 January, 2016 4:25 PM
Subject: RE: Your genealogy user account has been activated.
Hello Ian,
I was researching my mother's family the O'Hare pioneers of Nimmitabel and
Corrowong/Currawong via Delegate.
With reference Number on your files re O'Hare William MP255917 Person ID
1255917.
We are sure this person has been mistaken to be Joan Alice O'Hare born 25th
April 1925 "Hollyridge" Delegate NSW.
Died 7th May 1985 and buried in the cemetery at St. Peter's Church, Corrowong
via Delegate.
The mistake in names is due to the fact that Joan was always called Billie by
her family so this may explain the information as to our knowledge Cyril Edward
j O'Hare and Mary Harriett Barnes (my Grandparents) only had 4 daughters.
Thanks, Carol Ogilvy-Garnock
-----Original Message-----
From:
ian@monaropioneers.com
Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2015 7:20 PM
To: Carol Ogilvy-Garnock
Subject: RE: Your genealogy user account has been activated.
Hi Carol,
Just send your additional/correctional information to me and I will update the
database.
Regards, Ian
On 27/10/2015 18:45, Carol Ogilvy-Garnock wrote:
> Thankyou Ian'
> How do I add information to you for documentation on the O'Hare Family
> of Corrowong.
> Carol
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
From: Warwick McCall
Sent: 5 January, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Canberra Pioneer Families
Hi Ian
Have been given a copy of the attached Canberra Times article. Produced in 2000
and about 40 pages in length. It is a broadsheet format and therefore difficult
to scan on my A4 scanner.
Would you be interested in any of the photos I am scanning out of it?
enclosed a couple examples. The articles are brief and give some details of the
family members, but will be difficult to scan. If you have particular families I
will see what I can do.
Cheers, Warwick
Hi Warwick,
Yes please, anything you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Those
photos are fabulous. If you have a current mobile phone with a high
resolution camera (12mpixels or above) you could try taking digital images of
each page?
Regards, Ian
MAYO
On 05/01/2016 12:55, Jill Walker wrote:
Proposed Change: Family: Mayo, William Frederick/Bowerman, Clara
(F68011)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F68011&tree=MP
Description: Please find some additional information for my grandmother Clara
Bowerman. She died in Canberra on 20 February 2001 and is buried at the
Queanbeyan Riverside Cemetery. They also had a daughter Gwendoline Agnes Mayo
born Cooma 4 February 1926, married Edward Piper on 15 December 1951. Gwen
died on 15 August 2007 and is buried in Queanbeyan Lawn Cemetery.
Jill Walker
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
ROBINSON
From:
Gregory McInnes
Sent: 5 January, 2016 9:04 AM
Subject: Proposed Changes: ROBINSON, Lawrence Henry I11081
Ian
Proposed Change:
Robinson, Lawrence Henry (I11081)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11081&tree=MP
Died: 9 February
1967; Base Hospital Goulburn, NSW; NSW BDM 15546/1967
Cause of Death: 1. Peritonitis; 2. Toxic Myocarditis
Buried: 16 February 1967, General Cemetery Goulburn, NSW
Occupation: at time of death, Labourer
Never Married
Address prior to death: Kenmore Hospital, Goulburn, NSW
Attached transcript of DC
Regards, Gregory
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
LOCKER
On 04/01/2016 15:01, Jackie Nelson wrote:
Proposed Change: Locker, Pearl Ann Ivy (I49615)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I49615&tree=MP
Description: Pearl children; Charles Ross 1919 -1946 Harold George Rupert
1920-1970 Joyce Rowena (Walsh) 9-11-1926 Linton Herbert 1928-1951.
Mervan Robert belongs to Bernice Mansfield(Clugston and Jack Mansfield
Jackie Nelson (Mansfield)
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
GOLDSTEIN
From:
Nuala Goldstein
Sent: 2016-01-03 10:16 AM
Subject: Ancestors from Cooma
Hi David
We have corresponded previously when I found the death notice of our ancestors
in Cooma.
I have since got the death Certificate of Dora Goldstein and interesting find is
two names as witnesses of the burial
Also appear in the same street that Dora and David Goldstein lived in the 1891
census (Massie St)
C. Solomon and E Perkins .
I found info on your site that Charles Solomon owned a hotel in Massie St and E
Perkins was the hotel keeper.
Would there be any records to indicate if David and Dora lived or worked in the
hotel, Dora died in Vale Street which appears to be an intersection of Massie
st. I Belive the hotel was on the corner of Massie and Vale St.
Thanks, Nuala Goldstein
Hi Nuala,
The death notice information we have indicates David Goldstein was a Taylor so I
doubt he worked in the hotel.
I would guess the witnesses were friends who attended the funeral.
I would also suggest contacting the Cooma Historical Society care of the Cooma
Library to see what additional local material is available.
Regards, Ian
MAUNDER
From:
Teena
Sent: 3 January, 2016 8:28 PM
Subject: FAMILY ID F39938
Hi Ian,
Some additional information for –
Cecil George Maunder married Gertrude Elizabeth Sarah Pickering 16/08/1919
Issue –
Jack Maunder
born 13/09/1920 Pambula
died 16/09/1920
John Henry Maunder
born 20/09/1921 Pambula
died 11/04/1944 Warrant officer 466 squadron RAAF: cause of death- flying
battle: place of death-France : burial- Meharicourt Communal Cemetery Somme,
France
Yvonne Constance Maunder born 21/05/1925 Pambula
died December 2005
Vida Faith Maunder
born 1930 Annandale still living
Note: John Henry Maunder is 5th from the left in the back row of the
attached photo. His nick name was Lofty.
Parents of Gertrude Elizabeth Sarah Pickering are-
William John Pickering
born 13/05/1843 Camberwell, London died 25/03/1914
Elizabeth Constance Woods born 1858
Murrarundi
died 28/05/1925
William & Elizabeth were married on 10th October 1881 at St Barnabas,
Coonamble, NSW
I hope this all makes sense.
Please let me know if anything is unclear or you require further detail.
Kind regards, Teena
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
DUNCAN
On 02/01/2016 19:02, Patricia McGufficke wrote:
Proposed Change: Duncan, Arthur (I108040)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I108040&tree=MP
Description: Arthur was born in Bombala - his name is on the Bombala War
Memorial (check his military records).
Arthur Duncan was given an absolute exemption by the Military Exemption Court
held in Delegate in November 1916. George Thomas Willgoose was given a
provisional exemption, and Walter Henry Willgoose (both brothers of Arthur's
future wife, Lillian), was given a temporary exemption from service.
Arthur was living with his wife in Mila, near Bombala when he enlisted at the
Sydney Show Grounds in Sydney on 9 Oct 1917. He was Trooper No.4483, aged
25 years, and was attached to the 1st Light Horse Reinforcements. He was
transferred as a Staff Officer for Invalids from 19 Dec 1917. He embarked
Sydney per H.T. Port Darwin 30 April 1918, disembarked Suez 7 June 1918 and was
appointed as a driver on 14th August. Despite some minor illnesses in
December 1918, he continued to serve in AIF headquarters in the Middle East
until the middle of 1919 when he returned to Australia aboard the Malta on 3 Jul
1919, arriving Sydney on 10 August 1919.
Cootamundra Herald, Tue. 20 Jul 1943 P.2 Mr Arthur Duncan. Residents of
the Muttama district were shocked to hear of the sudden death of Mr Arthur
Dunan, of "Glencona." He had a bad turn about 4 o'clock this morning.
His wife called the ambulance and a doctor, but he had passed away before their
arrival. He had been suffering with heart trouble for some time. He was
52. He was a returned soldier of the last war, and was one of the original
settlers in the Muttama district under the Returned Soldiers' Settlement Scheme.
He has been on the property, "Glencona," ever since.
Deceased had always been a keen member of the Cootamundra sub-branch of the
Returned Soldiers League, and on the outbreak of the present war his son Milton
was the first in Cootamundra and district to enlist. He sailed with the
first contingent to leave Australia for the Middle East, and is now back here
with the rank of sergeant. The other members of the family were also
imbued with the desire to serve their country.
Lance is also in the A.I.F., and Geoff is in the R.A.A.F. The only
daughter, Laurie, is a member of the Australian Women's Army. The youngest
of the family, Murray, is going to school at Tumut.
Deceased joined the V.D.C. when a unit was formed at Muttama, but his failing
health caused him to dropout of the movement.
The sincere sympathy of the whole district is extended to the sorrowing widow
and family.
The funeral will leave the Presbyterian Church, Cootamundra, at 2p.m.
tomorrow, for the Cootamundra cemetery.
Cootamundra Herald, Fri. 23 Jul 1943, p2 Funeral of the Late Digger Arthur
Duncan Despite the belated alteration in the time of the funeral of the late
Arthur Duncan, of Muttama, to noon on Wednesday, many old friends and fellow
returned men of the last war gathered for the service at Scots and at the
graveside, conducted by the Rev. W.A. Loftus. Mourners present included
the widow, the son, Sgt. Milton Duncan (of this war) and the daughter (who is in
the A.W.A.S.).
His aged mother, residing in New Zealand, is 87.
This morning a lovely wreath reached Sgt.Milton Duncan from his fellow Diggers
of the statistics branch of the Records Office.
Additional children are named in the article relating to his death.
Patricia McGufficke
Hi Patricia,
Thank you for the information. Arthur lists he birth place as Edinburgh,
Scotland on his WW2 records.
Regards, Ian
BLEWITT
On 01/01/2016 18:54, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Blewitt, George (I109407)
Tree:
Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I109407&tree=MP
Description:
Sounds like there was trouble in the family"
Notice.
The public are hereby cautioned not directly or indirectly
In the Supreme Court of New South Wales, Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction.
Dated
this 20th day of October, 1860. ANTHONY S. FREESTONE, Proctor for Applicant.
Queanbeyan
Age and General Advertiser, Saturday 3 November 1860 page 4
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BLEWITT
On 01/01/2016 18:37, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Blewitt, George (I109407)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I109407&tree=MP
Description: This seems to be our George:
COUNTRY NEWS. QUEANBEYAN.
(From our own Correspondent.) On Thursday night a settler, named George
Blewitt, residing about fifteen miles from Queanbeyan, in the Burra, met with a
severe accident by falling into the fire, from the effects of which he died on
Sunday morning. The particulars are not known until after the inquest.
Goulburn Herald, Wednesday 24 October 1860 page 3
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
ELLISON
On 31/12/2015 18:25, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Ellison, Emily Rose (I17002)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I17002&tree=MP
Description: Birth
18458/1868 ELLISON EMILY R JAMES
SARAH YASS
OBITUARY
MRS. EMILY SOUTHWELL
The death occurred at Queanbeyan District Hospital yesterday of Mrs.
Emily Southwell, relict of the late Mr. Lewis Southwell.
Mrs. Southwell was born in Yass district 68 years ago, being a daughter of the
late Mr. and Mrs. James Ellison. She married Mr Southwell at the old
Presbyterian Church, Queanbeyan in 1888, both parties belonging to pioneering
families.
Mr. and Mrs. Southwell made their home in Queanbeyan district up till the death
of Mr. Southwell in 1916. For some years the late Mrs. Southwell resided with
her only daughter Mrs. J. Johns, at Hayes street, Queanbeyan. She had suffered
ill-health for some months and had been an inmate of Queanbeyan Distrlct
Hospital for several weeks.
The family of five sons and one daughter, is well known in Queanbeyan distrlct
and includes Messrs. Elias, Alwin, Arthur, Verney and Victor Southwell, and
Rosabel (Mrs. J. Johns).
The funeral will leaye the Methodist Church, Queanbeyan, for the old Methodist
Cemetery, Queanbeyan at 3 o'clock this afternoon.
The Canberra Times, Friday 11 September 1936 page 5
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
SOUTHWELL
On 31/12/2015 14:33, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Southwell, Arthur Samuel Lewis (I17390)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I17390&tree=MP
Description: possible son
SOUTHWELL ALLAN BRUCE : Service Number - R39353 : Date of birth - 04 Jul
1928 : Place of birth - QUEANBEYAN NSW : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY :
Next of Kin - SOUTHWELL GLADYS mother, address as Cobargo
Warwick
Hi Warwick,
His parents are Alwyn Beaumont Southwell and Gladys Thomson.
Regards, Ian
LAING
On 31/12/2015 13:09, Susan wrote:
Proposed Change: Laing, Florence Jessie (I95544)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I95544&tree=MP
Description: Florence died 20 Jul 1967 and is buried at Grafton Cemetery
Susan
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
KILBY
On 31/12/2015 08:47, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Kilby, Mary (I7703)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I7703&tree=MP
Description: OBITUARY.
MARY (MRS. EDWARD) SMITH. Born 8th October, 1818; died August 7th, 1907.
[COMMUNICATED.] One by one the early settlers in this district are dying out.
Every year---almost every month - leaves their numbers less. The men and women
who more than half a century agone came and settled in the Queanbeyan
district ; helped here, to "replenish the earth and subdue it;" raised their
stalwart sons and daughters, the sturdy yeomanry of the present day; exerted an
influence for good on the future of the district ; and then, with hoary heads,
that "crown of glory," laid them down and ceased from their labours. Of such was
the subject of this memorial. Born at Ramsey, Huntingdonshire, England, in the
same year as, but a few months later, than Queen Victoria, noblest of England's
monarchs, she passed her girlhood and the earliest years of her married life in
the land of her nativity. Her husband was the late Mr. Edward Smith, who
predeceased her nearly 20 years ago. He was an enterprising, progressive man,
who, from humble beginnings worked his way upwards till he became a prosperous
farmer and successful horse-breeder. There was not a man in the district who
knew more about horses than he. Mrs. Smith emigrated to Australia with her
husband and three children in 1852, and on landing in Sydney came straight away
to the Queanbeyan district, where her husband entered into an engagement with
the late Mr. George Campbell, of Duntroon.
Subsequently he entered the employ of Mr. William Davis, on the Gininderra
Estate The writer first became acquainted with the deceased lady and her family
when her husband had just entered on farming pursuits on his own account on
Gininderra Plain, not far from the Glebe and Emu Bank. At that time Mrs. Smith
was in her prime, a bright-minded, cheerful-spirited woman, a wife and mother in
the highest sense of these words. Her practical christianity shone like a halo
around her, and one could not be in her presence or enjoy her acquaintance
long without discovering that she was a woman of rare qualities, and whose
influence was for good upon all with whom she was brought in contact. At the
time of her husband's demise she was the mother of six, three sons and three
daughters. Two of her sons, after farming in this district for a while, left for
the Richmond River district, where they are successfully following agricultural
pursuits. These were Shelton and George Smith.
The other son, Ellis, remains following the same avocation at Wallaroo, in this
district.
Her three daughters also reside in the district. They are Mrs. E. Cameron, of
Weetangara; Mrs. John Southwell, of Ottocliffe, Hall; and Mrs. Richard
Southwell, of Wallaroo, at whose residence the deceased lady died in the 89th
year of her age. For the latter part of her life she resided at Hall in a little
cottage of her own; and as the feebleness of age crept upon her, was cared for
by her daughters and granddaughters. Ultimately she made her home with her
youngest daughter, and there passed away as stated. For about 44 years the
deceased lady was a consistent and exemplary member of the Methodist Church -
first at Parkwood, and then at Wattle Park, and till extreme feebleness
prevented her, was always to be found in her place in church.
Her remains were interred by the side of those of her husband in the Weetangara
Methodist cemetery, on Friday last (9th inst), and the large cortege which
followed to her grave testified to the general esteem in which the memory of
this venerable lady was held. A noticeable and uncommon feature of the interment
was that the pall-bearers were six of the deceased's granddaughters, viz., Mrs.
W. H. Jones and the Misses Alice Cameron, Amelia A. and Adelaide Southwell, and
Rebecca and Lily Smith. The late Mrs. Smith saw her children's children to the
fourth generation.
The Age (Queanbeyan), Friday 16 August 1907 page 2
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
LOVE
On 30/12/2015 16:20, Susan wrote:
Proposed Change: Love, Ernest Albert (I16554)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I16554&tree=MP
Description: Ernest died 1981 (200575/1981)
Susan
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
LOVE
On 30/12/2015 15:13, Susan wrote:
Proposed Change: Love, Cecil Harold (I16553)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I16553&tree=MP
Description: Cecil and Florence divorced between 1940-1943.
Cecil is buried in Wamberal NSW cemetery
Susan
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
HAZELL
On 29/12/2015 22:32, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Hazell, Ada Elizabeth (I17742)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I17742&tree=MP
Description: OBITUARY
Mrs. Ada Elizabeth Southwell.
The death occurred recently of Mrs. Ada Elizabeth Southwell at the Canberra
Community Hospital following a sudden illness.
Mrs. Southwell, daughter of Mr. Charles Hazell, of Gunning, was born in
1867 and came to the Hall district as school teacher in 1889. Two years later
she married Mr. John Southwell, grandson of Thomas Southwell, pioneer Canberra
settler, and took up residence at "Carrington," Hall, until 1941, when the
couple moved to Ainslie. In her younger days Mrs.
Southwell was a well-known equestrienne in the Hall district, and was an active
worker for the Methodist Church at Wattle Park.
She is survived by her nine children.
The Canberra Times, Monday 8 December 1947 page 2
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
SOUTHWELL
On 29/12/2015 22:03, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Southwell, John (I17456)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I17456&tree=MP
Description: OBITUARY
MR. J. SOUTHWELL
The funeral of the late Mr. John Southwell, of Ainslie, was held on Wednesday at
Hall general cemetery, following a service at the Wattle Park Methodist Church,
at which Rev. D. A. Trahan officiated, assisted by the Rev. A. J. Arthur of
Queanbeyan.
The pall-bearers were four sons of the deceased, Messrs. Ira, Jock, Hazell and
Tamerlane. The chief mourners were Mrs. Ada Southwell (widow), daughters Amy
(Mrs. A. Gregory), Vida, Nora (Mrs. L. R. Smith), Iia (Mrs. W. Walmsley), Edna
(Mrs. J. Shepherd), brothers of the deceased, William, Sam and Edward Southwell,
and a sister, Lucy (Mrs. W.
Munday). One son, Neal, was unable to return from Tamworth to the funeral.
The Canberra Times, Friday 30 January 1942 page 4
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BRINSMEAD
On 29/12/2015 21:50, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Brinsmead, Lilian May (I18415)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I18415&tree=MP
Description: Possible alternative death
11076/1965 SOUTHWELL LILLIAS MINNIE WILLIAM
CAROLINE BURWOOD
The christian name more closely matched marriage name.
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
WESTROPP
On 29/12/2015 19:26, Narelle Walsh wrote:
Proposed Change: Mary (I6510)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I6510&tree=MP
Description: Mary was Mary Westropp, only daughter of Arthur Kiely Westropp of
Forthaine, Tulla, County Clare and Margaret O'Hehir, also of Tulla, County
Clare. Margaret was daughter of John O'Hehir (farmer) and Mary McMahon.
Narelle Walsh
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
CRONK
From:
greg shepherd
Sent: 29 December, 2015 3:57 PM
Subject: Arthur John Cronk.
Hi Again Ian.
Attached is a PDF on my Family tree the Cronk/Shepherd & Sparrow &
White/Robinson
I noticed that the Monaro Pioneers has very little about them so I thought that
I would forward you my information.
This is from my point of view. All I ask is that I be mentioned in the Source
details and the same goes with the Pendergast family tree.
Regards Greg
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
PENDERGAST
From:
Greg Shepherd
Sent: 29 December, 2015 9:38 AM
Subject: Reginald John Pendergast
Hi Ian.
I thought you might like some additional information about the Pendergast
family.
Especially from Reginald John Pendergast’s Son Terence Joseph
Pendergast’s point of view, Reference Number MP48190
Please attached a PDF file for Reginald John Pendergast.
I hope you can use it
Regards Greg Shepherd
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
LAING
On 27/12/2015 15:11, Susan wrote:
Proposed Change: Laing, William Allan (I54100)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I54100&tree=MP
Description: William died 11-3-1974. He is buried at North Rockhampton Cemetery,
Queensland.
Susan
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
COMAN
On 27/12/2015 14:47, Susan wrote:
Proposed Change: Coman, Jack (I54101)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I54101&tree=MP
Description: Jacks name is John Thomas Coman. He was born (1895
B56117)
He died Feb. 1967 (1967 B87362) aged 72 years.
John & Emma Jane are
buried together at Mt. Gravatt Cemetery, Brisbane.
Susan
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
McMILLAN
On 27/12/2015 01:37, james mcmillan wrote:
> Proposed Change: McMillan, John Durras (I185752)
> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
>
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I185752&tree=MP
>
> Description: married to sarah date unknown, father of john, gibson, stella and
linda
>
>
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/27936936
>
> james mcmillan
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
NAPTHALI
From:
Harry Napthali
Sent: 18 December, 2015 11:54 AM
Subject: H Napthali
I wish to advise that Mr Harry Napthali passed away on 31 October 2015.
Kevin Napthali
Hi Kevin,
Our sincerest commiserations on your loss, thank you for letting us know.
Regards, Ian
ROBINSON
From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: 17 December, 2015 6:53 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Robinson, John Adam (I10392)
Proposed Change: Robinson, John Adam (I10392)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10392&tree=MP
Description: Died: 1971, Sale, Vic; VIC BDM 7637/1971 Married 1: Rose Ann
ANSWER, 1906, Vic; VIC BDM 4632/1906 Rose was Born 1885 Bairnsdale, Vic; VIC BDM
14922/1885 and Died 2 July 1907, Orbost, Vic; VIC BDM 9770/1907
Child of John & Rose: Millicent Ida Rose ROBINSON; Born 19 July 1907, VIC BDM
21249/1907; Married Hugh MATTHEWS 28 April 1924 in Vic; VIC BDM 3080/1924; Died
1971 Fitzroy, Melbourne, Vic; VIC BDM 24930/1971
Married 2: Florence Ellen BUTTERS, 1912, Vic; VIC BDM 4818/1912
Children of John & Florence;
1. Florencce Ellen ROBINSON Born 1913
2. John Kenneth ROBINSON Born 2 Feb 1915 3. Bruce Alexander ROBINSON Born 5 May
1917 4. Bernard Richard ROBINSON Born 1918
Gregory McInnes
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
ROBINSON
On 17/12/2015 09:43, Gregory McInnes wrote:
Proposed Change: Robinson, Robert Clive (I11082)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11082&tree=MP
Description: Delegate Argus (NSW) Thursday 25 December 1930 Page 2
Roundabout.
(FROM OUR CORRESPONDENTS)
CRAIGIE.
A very enjoyable party was held at Craigie on Saturday night, in the form of a
Kitchen Tea to Miss Hilda Elton, whose marriage to Mr. Robert Robinson is to
take place shortly. About sixty people came along, and the presents, about 50 in
number, looked really nice arranged on a large table on the stage.
Dancing continued till 12 p.m., when several short speeches of thanks were
given, and the young couple honoured with "For they are Jolly Good Fellows."
Miss Elton was presented with a bouquet of flowers by the children. It is
desired to thank Mrs. W. Ivill and Mrs. Forrest, through whose energy the little
function was so successful.
----------
Children of Robert and Hilda
1. Robert Arnold ROBINSON
2. Rodger Ronald ROBINSON
3. Alan Clive ROBINSON
Gregory McInnes
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BURKE
On 13/12/2015 11:53, Kerry Donaghy wrote:
Proposed Change: Burke, James (I214)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I214&tree=MP
Description: Baptised 17 August 1851, Ballinabrackey, Co. Westmeath
Kerry Donaghy
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
MACK
On 12/12/2015 09:10, warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Mack, Henry (I301470)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I301470&tree=MP
Description: Are you sure on this death date, there seems to be two Henry Mack's
in Adelong: (deaths)
6461/1921 MACK HENRY 87 YEARS ADELONG
16912/1916 MACK HENRY HENRY
WINIFRED ADELONG
The 1916 death is related to a shooting incident:
ADELONG TRAGEDY.
INQUEST OPENED.
ADELONG, Tuesday.
The inquest on the body of Henry Mack, grazier, of Adelong, was opened at the
Adelong Police Court to-day, before the Coroner, Mr. W Roche, J P. James Mack, a
brother of the deceased, who was remanded on the previous day on a charge of
murder, was present in custody. Inspector Butler watched the case on behalf of
the police. The accused is a man of spare build.
Dr. Finley said that on receiving a message from Constable Jones on the 5th inst
he proceeded to the residence of the deceased. He there saw the body of Henry
Mack, and found life extinct. Death was, in his opinion, caused by haemorrhage
and spinal cord injury, caused by gun-shot wounds.
He thought the shots had been fired about five yards away. In reply to the
accused, witness said the deceased's right hand was clasping a stick about nine
inches long.
Accused: Do you think there were any symptoms of insanity in our family?
I cannot express an opinion. Death would be practically instantaneous.
Sergeant Bolton said that on November 5 James Mack came to his office and said,
"I have shot Harry, sergeant, up at the house, You had better come up. " On
arrival there he saw the body of Henry Mack lying on the
ground near the veranda. Deceased was dressed in shirt,
trousers, and
socks. He had no boots on. The body was lying face downwards, and there was a
large jagged wound in the neck, from which blood was flowing. He then cautioned
the accused, and asked what started the row. Accused
replied, "It was over a land court case. The row started in the
kitchen. He picked up the tongs and tried to hit me. He then went outside, and
said, 'Come out here ' I told him I would not fight. Mother stood at the door,
and Harry struck the door with the axe several times.
He finally forced the door and knocked me into the corner shouting 'I'll do for
you. ' I got hold of a potstick, and said, 'No fighting ' I then went to the
bedroom, picked up a stick, and threw it out of the the window. I took a
double-barrelled gun, and pointed it at him through the window from the bedroom
" Witness asked him, "Did you know it was loaded'" He said, "Yes, I pointed it
at him through the window, and it went off. I cannot say that I saw the deceased
when the shot went off" . The sergeant then took possession of the gun, and
examined it in the presence of the accused. He found two empty cartridges
recently discharged, and said to the accused, "You have fired two shots " He
said, "No only one " I said, "How then do you account for two empty cartridges
in the gun". He appeared surprised, and said, "I must have fired two shots. A
man gets excited " Witness then arrested him on a charge of murdering Harry
Mack. Later, in company with Constable Jones, witness returned to the house with
the accused. After cautioning him witness said, "You told me you put the gun out
through the bedroom window." He then took him to the kitchen window, pointing
out the broken pane, and said "Do you see these shotmarks?" He replied, "Yes."
Witness said it would be impossible to hit those posts from the bedroom window,
and the shot must have been fired from the kitchen window. He then asked accused
to show how he took aim, and from the position in which deceased was lying it
would have been impossible to have fired from there. He asked him to account for
the marks on the post. Accused replied, "I don't know, sergeant. I must have
been mad I do not remember ." The longest stick produced witness removed from
the fingers of the deceased. By the Inspector: Accused could have got out
by another door had he wished to.
The Sydney Morning Herald, Wednesday 8 November 1916 page 13
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THE ADELONG SHOOTING,
James Mack Discharged.
The jury in the case against James Mack, who was charged with murdering
his brother, Henry Mack, of Adelong (N.S.W.), on November 5, found
the
accused guilty of manslaughter, with a strong recommendation to mercy,
considering that he thought he was in danger of his life. The point was taken
immediately by Mr. J. W. Abigail (who appeared for the defence) that his honor
would rule the verdict to be one of not guilty, because clearly it was a verdict
of homicide in self-defence. On Friday morning his honor, is giving his reserved
decision on the point, said that he had decided to discharge the prisoner, and
Mack was accordingly liberated.
The Farmer and Settler, Tuesday 12 December 1916 page 4
warwick
Hi Warwick,
You are correct, there were two Henry (Harry) Mack's. Father and son and I
have adjusted the database accordingly.
Regards, Ian
HAIGH/PRICE
From:
Janeece
Sent: 11 December, 2015 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: Haigh-Price
Dear David,
The query you have received from Bill Streat re: William Haigh and Mary Ann
Price has a few strange assumptions in it. I’m not sure if I have had
contact with Bill Streat before but his name seems familiar. On your
records you have their son William Haigh, his wife Emily Hall and their
descendants which was supplied to you from Judy Gill. Unfortunately Judy
is not very well at present having had a stroke recently and is in still
convalescing. If you wish you may pass my email address on to him and see
if I can explain the research Judy and I have done over the years as he seems
quite confused. Maybe he doesn’t live in Sydney and have access to the
State Records etc.
Hoping this doesn’t give you too much work David but hope I can be of some help
in this instance. I really enjoy your Pioneer Register which I receive it.
Kind Regards, Jan Stoker
Hi Jan,
The email address for Bill is … xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I am sorry to hear about Judy, please pass on our good wishes to her and hope
she makes a full and speedy recovery.
Merry Christmas.
Regards, Ian
SCHUBACK
From:
Susan Henshall
Sent: 9 December, 2015 10:22 AM
Subject: Birth Details of Johanna Schuback nee Jess
Dear Ian,
Johanna Jess was Born on the 7th September 1845 (Source Early Church
Record Baptisms 719V62). Father, James Jessie; Mother,
Catherine Lyons
She was Baptised on the 1 October 1845 in the Parish of St Mary's Cathedral,
Sydney. Her sponsors were James and Hanah Dwyer. Next to the
comments is another reference number (2332 V134 - Johana)
Also born to the same parents. Mary Jessie (Early Church Record
Baptisms 904 V61) Date of birth 11 March 1842. Father Jas. Jessie;
Mother Cate Lyons; at St Mary's Church. No sponsors. Mary died
in 1861 when she drowned off Bradley's Head. Age 18. On the NSW
Death Registry 00962, no parents are mentioned. Although next to
occupations it says "Adopted Daughter of A Anderson (who ran a boarding house in
Sussex Street) and who also drowned on the boat.
Timothy James James married to Eliza bartley was either born in Sydney on 5th
December, 1843. Father, James Jesse; Mother Catharine Lyons. OR he was
born about 1836, arriving in Hobart January 1837 aged 1 on board the William
Metcalf as free immigrants. There was another child John aged 2 on board.
They travelled to Sydney in 1840 on the Mandarine with 4 unnamed children on
board, as Unassisted Immigrants. This John George is probably the same
who died in Murwillumbah aged 101.
Re the parents of Timothy James Jess who married Elizabeth Bartley and Johanna
Jess who married Sebastian Schuback, I have found some records that may belong
to them.
When I am convinced that these records do belong to these particular Jess,
Jessie, Jesse family I will contact you again.
I hope this information is in a format that you can use. I'm not good at
scanning documents and sending them by email. I could copy them and post
them if you wish.
Kind Regards, Sue Henshall
Thank you Sue,
I am happy to received photocopies of documents and I can scan them and attach
to individual records in the database.
Regards, Ian