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Monaro Pioneers Newsletter


2015 Number 3





MONARO PIONEERS is now on Facebook.


The Monaro Pioneers website now has its own Facebook page which is accessible at the following URL:




The Monaro Pioneers Facebook page is another source to use to gather family history information.


The MP Facebook page is another tool use to help build on the Monaro Pioneers database.


The MP Facebook page is a member based Facebook page.


Once members are approved, members usually send a thank you and a brief message how they are connected to the Eden/Monaro areas.


Members can then exchange family connections i.e. how they are related to each other.


Members are welcome to add photos, exchange information or connect to new family members.


Milestones such as the number of members are posted every few weeks.


A reminder post is posted to the Facebook page for members to refer to the Monaro Pioneers website for further information and to arrange for any updates needed on the database.


Photos that are added to the Facebook page may also be added to the MP database.


Members can connect to other members directly and send messages, etc. if necessary.


 Footnote by Ian Harvey:  Our thanks go to Bruce Stubbs for the idea and the initiative to run with it.


Towards Mrs Keefe's Farm

From: John S. Trengove
Sent: 2015-03-11 2:41 PM
Subject: Monaro history


Dear David Knox,


From one whom has a long held interest in the history of the Monaro, I have recently released a book entitled "Towards Mrs Keefe's Farm", in which your newsletter readers may be interested . 


Please see attachment (Book now available.pdf) announcing the availability of the book - a PDF e-book which brings much of the history of the Monaro of New South Wales, and the life of conditionally pardoned convict Joseph Wild, together in one fully illustrated work of 424 pages.


Thanking you, and Monaro Pioneers for the excellent work you are doing. 


From John S. Trengove (Author)

78 Botha Avenue, Reservoir

Melbourne, 3073

(03) 9469 2990







Hello David,
Could you please advertise the following Reunion for descendants of William Gait/Bridget Curley to take place at Moss Vale NSW on weekend 30-31st May, 2015.
William and Bridget had four children:   Elizabeth,  Thomas,   Mary,  Ann Dinah (Diana).
Further information can be obtained by emailing me or Jannette Cameron (nee Gait) who is organising the reunion.
jannette.cameron@bigpond.com    or     imason46@hotmail.com


Many thanks,

Irene Mason



From: John [mailto:haylockjohn@netspace.net.au]
Sent: 2014-12-02 4:44 AM
Subject: Grant Clan of Wydham NSW

Dear David,

A reunion of the descendants of Henry Grant Snr  1815 - 1881 is currently being planned (finally) for 2015 over the long weekend in October in Wyndham.

The year is significant as it turns out as it will be the 200th birthday of Henry Grant Snr Is it possible to have some information on this event included in the newsletter? I do have dates and events for that weekend if appropriate.

For your information and reference, I am the youngest child of Clyde and Annie Grant from Wydham.

In anticipation of a reply.


Maree Haylock (Grant)



From: Sue Zammit
Sent: 2014-09-26 7:28 PM


Hello David

I would like to introduce myself. My name is Sue Zammit and I live in Gisborne, Victoria. My fathers mothers family were the Smith family from Braidwood NSW. The father was Joseph Smith Born in 1843 in Pinxton, Derbyshire England. He married in 1867 in New Zealand to Mary Jane Granger She was born in 1853 in Surrey, England. They went on to have 16 children. The moved to Braidwood New South Wales, Australia in 1891 and Mary Jane went on to have another3 children, one of which was my grandmother Ethel Dorothea Louisa Smith. One of the Smith girls married into the Willoughby family that was settled in Braidwood. That is where the reunion starts. The Willoughby reunion is to be held at the RSL Club in Braidwood on 26,27,28 Sept 2015 There is a Facebook page under Willoughby reunion. I was wondering if you may be able to put a notice on your web site adverting for any descendents of John Willoughby and Mary Ann Mills. She was a half cast aboriginal. I have loads of information on the whole family if your are interested. I can be contacted at email suzyq14@bigpond.com There should be a very healthy turnout as the Willoughby clan is huge.

Many thanks for your time, hope to hear back from you .


Kind regards   Sue Zammit  (Gisborne, Victoria)






From: Kelly Bartley

Sent: Monday, 6 April 2015 1:48 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Bartley, Joseph (I146576)


Proposed Change: Bartley,  Joseph (I146576)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I146576&tree=MP


Description: Something that might like to be added as a side note - Joseph Bartley came to Australia as a convict called Joseph Barclay aboard the ship Lady Harewood in 1832.  He was placed with Henry Badgery and worked for him for some years before receiving his ticket of leave in 1837 and then his ticket of freedom in 1840.  Links to substantiate this are:

Old Bailey Proceedings Online (www.oldbaileyonline.org, version 7.2, 05 April 2015), October 1831, trial of JOSEPH BARCLAY (t18311020-62).







In one of the links (obituary of William Bartley) it refers to Joseph's brothers as being a minister in England and an early Piano manufacturer in England and then USA.  I cannot find any information to substantiate this claim and believe it may be part of the story he told to substantiate his claim of being an honest upstanding citizen without any criminal record (also expressed in the obituary).  I am continuing to search for his siblings and family details from England and will advise if I find anything of note.


However, it appears that the apple doesnt fall from the tree as several of his children were also in trouble with the law for various offences including break and enter and violence.


kind regards,  Kelly Bartley

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: Mazza
Sent: Friday, 3 April 2015 4:11 PM
Subject: addition to John Charles Miners and Hannah Louise Spencer Caldwell

Hello David


I was just wanting to add a few people to our family history for the Miners group.


It is Allan Miners family branch.


Judith Miners   Her son  Stephen Patterson  his daughter Tamara Patterson d.o.b 10/12/1987 married Richard Alexander Brownlee Muir  d.o.b 16/10/1985  Married 18/12/2010 Kiama NSW   Their  daughter Leila Anne Muir born 9/3/2015 Canberra ACT.


Judith Miners   Her son  Michael Patterson  addition to the family  of another daughter  being  Imogen Grace Patterson d.o.b  28/11/2009  Wagga Wagga NSW.


This will bring our family up to date

Thank  you

Regards, Marian Reynolds

Hi Marian,

Thank you for the information, can you also tell us who Stephen and Michael married please?

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2015 8:49 PM
Subject: Headstone of Jacob Schafer and Phoebe Lily Calman

Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstones of Jacob Schafer and Phoebe Lily Calman.


Jacob was buried at


Eastern Suburbs Memoiral Park Botany Sydney NSW

A13 - Anglican F Monumental 13 - Grave 217


Phoebe is buried at:


Eastern Suburbs Memoiral Park Botany Sydney NSW

A5 - Anglican FM 5 - Grave 538


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,   Ian



From: rilygb
Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2015 8:40 PM
Subject: Grant and Arrold family history

Good evening gentlemen
My name is Rick Andrew and I have recently retired to the Sunshine Coast Qld. With some more time available I've started to find out more about our family history. My mother was Alma Grant, daughter of "Melon Dan" Grant. She married Percy (Patrick) Roy Arrold and subsequently Thomas Richard Andrew.
The Arrolds appear to have a range of variations to their surname, eg Arols, Arrol.
I'm just focussing on the basics at this stage as I'm new to this work.
I'd appreciate any advice or guidance you could offer to help fill in the lineage through Alma back through Henry Grant and beyond and also for William Arols/William Arrold. William appears to be a pioneer in the Queanbeyan area and also may have convict links?
My apologies for this bald approach to you. I can recall very briefly an uncle Barney whose address was something like New Building bridge via Wyndham. Alma's father, "Melon Dan", may have been a publican. The origin of the names "Melon Dan" and "Possum Jack" are also intriguing.
Thanks for your patience in reading this email and I hope that i have not caused any inconvenience by contacting you.
Kind regards,  Rick Andrew

Hi Rick,

You will find the family tree of Henry Grant and Janet Campbell on the Monaro Pioneers website …




and the family tree of William Arrold and Ann Bayleycorn as well …




We don't have very much information on your mother and her descendants as yet so any details you can supply would be most welcome.

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2015 8:38 PM
Subject: Headstone for Arthur Harold Schafer and Cecilia Dorothy Brown

Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for Arthur Harold Schafer and Cecilia Dorothy Brown.


Both were buried at:


Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park Botany Sydney NSW

A5 - Anglican FM 5 - Grave 537


Regards,   Bruce


Regards,  Ian



From: Judith de Grauw
Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2015 11:13 PM
Subject: Fwd: John Bradley and Mary

Dear Ian, 

I am writing to you as the following message I sent to Amanda was returned as an incorrect address.

Would you kindly assist me?

Kind regards,    Judy de Grauw

Hi Judy,

The only address we have is the one you have already tried.  However, we can add your request to our next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers can help you.

Regards,  Ian


From: Judith de Grauw  
Date: 4 April 2015 8:08:11 pm AWST
Subject: John Bradley and Mary

Dear Amanda,

I came across your name in connection with your biography of William Bradley on the Monaro Pioneers website.

I am researching the Bradley-Morris family on behalf of their descendant, my sister-in-law, Patricia Poole (nee Osborn). Patricia is descended from John Bradley and Mary.

There are many family stories about John Bradley & Mary and also about Nancy Humue and George Morris. Some of these stories are plausible, some maybe less so.

I am a retired History teacher turned family genealogist.

Truly, any assistance or direction you might give me would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,  Judy de Grauw (nee Poole)


On 03/04/2015 16:18, Sharon Jarman wrote:

Subject: Re: Comments (Rankin, Donald

I am researching Amos Rankin and his 

family-ancestors and descendants. Amos being my brother in laws g-grandfather. It was not until the death of grandfather reginald Edward  Georeg Smith in 2007 that they found that he was a RANKIN. Only 2  days  ago I was given the names of Amos & his wife Jessica Dainer. I have  seen in this website that Amos had 2 children by another woman(he  and  Jessica never lived together from 1930s as thru Electoral roles).

I found that Amos was living with a Barry in the years prior to his death. (electoral roles) and noticed that you have withheld information on B. Rankin son of Amos. Are you in contact with Barry or any of his family. My brother in law is keen to get any information,  verbal, written and/or photos.

Regards,  Sharon Jarman

Hi Sharon, 

We have no contact information for Barry Rankin unfortunately.

We can put your email in our next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers might be able help you.

I am however, interested in your comment "It was not until the death of  grandfather Reginald Edward George Smith in 2007 that  they found that he was a RANKIN". Could you please explain how there is a connection?

Regards, Ian


When Reginald Edward George Smith died in 2007 on the death certificate I have been told was that his birth surname was Rankin.

His only son Reginald Griffiths Smith wife relayed to me thru my sister in law that Reg Edward George's parent's name were Amos Rankin and Jessica Dainer. I am assuming that was on the death certificate..I have not seen it.

The surname Smith was is use in 1942 when Reg married and then again  when he enlisted for ww2.

I remember that they had no idea of the name change.


Hi Sharon,

We have an Edward in our records, the son of Amos Rankin and Jessie Dainer, could he be Reginald Edward George Smith?

Regards,   Ian


I think so. I remember them saying that not just last name changed probably added Reginald after his grandfather. Amos died in 1975 in Canberra where had been living for quite some time.

I will be seeing the Smith family shortly to show them what I have found..hopefully I will get to see the death certificate and I will let you know the details then


Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: Amy Winner
Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2015 10:15 AM
Subject: Book - The Snowy Mountain Men WW1

Good morning,


At a friend’s dinner this week I was perusing her bookshelf (as I often do at other people’s homes to see what I may have missed reading) and I happily came across a book about the Snowy Mountain Men who were involved in the recruitment march for WW1.

My ancestor Arthur Winner was a part of this march and appears in this book. I was quite taken aback that all of these years later that we might be friends unknowing that our ancestors marched to enlist together, how very amazing!

My friend said that the book was recently launched in Quenbeyan and that if I contacted the Bombala Historical Society that I may be able to purchase a copy.

Can you assist?


Kind Regards,   Amy

Hi Amy,

Sorry, I do not have a copy of the book you mentioned nor do I have any involvement with the Bombala Historical Society.

This email will appear in our next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers can help you.  

Regards,   Ian



From: Gregory McInnes  

Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2015 10:51 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Stokes, June Patricia (I204690)


Proposed Change: Stokes,  June Patricia (I204690)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I204690&tree=MP


Description: DOB: 14 July 1927


In Loving Memory

June Patricia Beileiter

14/07/1927 to 20/03/2014

Sadly missed along life's way,

Quietly remembered every day.

No longer in our life to share,

But in our hearts, you're always there.

Don, Julie, Susan and Families



18/03/2015 Bombala Times


Gregory McInnes


Regards,   Ian



On 31/03/2015 14:50, John Richards wrote:

Proposed Change: Chalker,  P.W. (I256318)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I256318&tree=MP


Description: It has been suggested to me that Percy William Chalker born Jun 1920 at Cooma, is of indigenous ancestry.

Is there anyway this could be confirmed, or otherwise?

Regards,   John

Hi John,

We can put your request in our next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers can help you.

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2015 7:58 AM
Subject: Headstone for John Henry Johnston and Irene May Storer

HI David and Ian,

Please find attached headstones for John Henry Johnston and Irene May Storer.

Both are buried at Gypsy Point Cemetery VIC.


John was born on  12 Nov 1909 in Paddingtion NSW and died 23 Feb 1974 in Orbost VIC.


Irene was born on 3 June 1913 in Colac VIC and died 31 July 1988 in Bendgio VIC.


John and Irene married in 1937 in Eden NSW.


Regards,   Bruce


Regards,   Ian



On 31/03/2015 07:51, Bruce Stubbs wrote:

Proposed Change: Johnston,  John Henry (I87484)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I87484&tree=MP


Description: Daughter is Thelma I342582 and I52496


Bruce Stubbs

Well spotted Bruce, excellent detective work.

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs  

Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2015 9:25 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Wilkins, Edgar Courtney (I67333)


Proposed Change: Wilkins,  Edgar Courtney (I67333)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I67333&tree=MP


Description: Edgar died in 1938 in Fitzroy VIC. (BDM VIC Index 6320/1938)


Bruce Stubbs


Regards,   Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs  

Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2015 9:19 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Wilkins, John Claude (I67332)


Proposed Change: Wilkins,  John Claude (I67332)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I67332&tree=MP


Description: John died in QLD in 1946 (BDM QLD C2493/1946)


Bruce Stubbs


Regards,   Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2015 9:01 PM
Subject: Headstone of Ruth Ellen Bruce

HI David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for Ruth Ellen Bruce.


Ruth was buried at Bombala Cemetery NSW, Church of England (New) Section; Row K; Position Number: 24.


Regards,   Bruce


Regards,  Ian



From: Margaret Alcorn
Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2015 9:26 AM
Subject: additions

Hello Ian.

Some more work for you,


I235004 Mary Smith & I98639 Mary C Smith is the same person, Married I88434 Arthur Mullane, a daughter Alice Mullane was born 1917 Reg. 20443 Bega, died 1917 Reg.7256 Bega.


Their son Brian Arthur Mullane, also on official record as Arthur Brian Mullane died 9 March 1961 at Eastwood Reg.4935 Ryde, he married 1949 Reg.1229 North Sydney Shirley Hessell Rubie.


Regards,  Margaret Alcorn

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2015 3:54 PM
Subject: Headstone of Thomas Henry Ramsey and Maud Kerrison


Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached copies of headstones for Thomas Henry Ramsey and Maud Kerrison.


They are both buried at Bega Cemetery NSW at:


Anglican; section 7; Row M; Position Number: 1-3


Regards,  Bruce


Regards,  Ian



Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:48:43 +1100

From: shanell

Subject: Re: Comments


On 26/03/2015 14:08, shanell wrote:

Comments: Hi i am trying to find out if my grandfather Ronald Stanly Lovelock was an aboriginal from the yuin trib. His dob is 1/5/1933


Sorry, we have no information that will help you unfortunately.

Regards, Ian

Hi Ian

Would u know where we i could find this stuff out. Also how do we amend something like children on the sight. Pop has children and their is none written down..

Thanks again Ian.

Regards,  Shanell.

Hi Shanell,

You could try the local area History Societies, they may have information about the local indigenous population.

To add additional information to our database, just send your proposed changes to me and I will update our records.

Regards,  Ian



On 26/03/2015 23:26, Robyn Waite wrote:

Proposed Change: Passmore,  Elizabeth (I180770)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I180770&tree=MP


Description: Elizabeth Passmore  who was actually christened BETTE ST CLAIRE PASSMORE (not Elizabeth) became the acclaimed Australian artist known as Bette Hays. Born in Sydney in 1922, Bette Hays studied at the East Sydney Technical College under Frank Norton, Douglas Dundas, Jean Bellette, Alfred Cook and Roland Wakelin. She lived in Papua New Guinea for a number of years and taught at Townsville Grammar School for some time. She has exhibited in most capital cities in Australia as well as in London. Her work is represented in many private collections in Australia and overseas. Examples of her art:




She married Albert Arthur Blaxland Hays in 1948 and she died Dec 2004

in Townsville, Qld.


Robyn Waite

Thank you,

Regards,   Ian



On 27/03/2015 17:17, Kevin Wallace wrote:

Proposed Change: Wallace,  William (I268771)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I268771&tree=MP


Description: This is my grand-father


N.S.W. BDM Registration Number: 1966/23079 Date of Death: 9 MAY 1966

Place of Death: 22 PARK STREET, QUEANBEYAN, N.S.W.




Age: 76






Father's Occupation: LABOURER

Mother - Maiden Name: ELIZABETH ROBERTS


REGISTERED 16 MAY 1966 When Buried: 11 MAY 1966



Minister: D. GREENE



Where born: ARALUEN, N.S.W.

Time in Colony/State:  -

Place Married: NOT KNOWN

Age at Marriage: NOT KNOWN


Children of Marriage: LESLIE, AGE NOT KNOWN



Kevin Wallace


Regards,   Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Sunday, 22 March 2015 9:23 AM
Subject: Headstone of Jocelyn McCole


Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for Jocelyn McCole.


Regards,  Bruce


Regards,   Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2015 6:00 PM
Subject: Headstones of Dalby William Elton and Catherine Mary Jarman


Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstones for Dalby William Elton and Catherine Mary Jarman.


Both are buried at:


Shoalhaven Lawn Cemetery

SHOALHAVEN LAWN CEMETERY, Segment 7, ROW/SECTION J, no. 20 Interment 1


Regards,  Bruce


Regards,   Ian



On 21/03/2015 11:05, Matthew Cunneen wrote:

Proposed Change: Gammon,  Martin (I53572)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I53572&tree=MP


Description: Change of Date and Place of Death.


Date of Death: 22 May 1930

Place: Crackenback, Jindabyne, NSW



- NSW BDM 7976/1930

- The Manaro Mercury, and Cooma and Bombala Advertiser (NSW : 1862 -

1931), issue Friday 30 May 1930


Link:   http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/119079668?searchTerm=Martin%20



Matthew Cunneen

Thank you,

Regards,   Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs  

Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 6:48 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Morgan, Miriam Gertrude (I52528)


Proposed Change: Morgan,  Miriam Gertrude (I52528)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I52528&tree=MP


Description: Died in Canberra ACT on 14th May 1994.


Bruce Stubbs


Regards,   Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 6:52 PM
Subject: Headstone of Miriam Gertrude Morgan, Baden William and Barry Milton Bruce

Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for Miriam Gertrude Morgan, Baden William and Barry Milton Bruce


All are buried at:


Bombala Cemetery NSW

Church of England (New) Section; Row C; Position Number: 9


Regards,   Bruce


Regards,   Ian



From: Gregory McInnes

Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 6:14 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Baker, William Joseph (I40366)


Proposed Change: Baker,  William Joseph (I40366)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I40366&tree=MP


Description: Born: 1867 Araluen, NSW : NSW Birth 7388/1867 Braidwood Married

4 April 1895; Amy Ethel Rowse

Occupation: 1907 Telegraph Line Repairer

            1929 Telephone Line Inspector


Children of William and Amy

1. William T Baker, born 1897 Newcastle, NSW : NSW Births 5445/1897 Newcastle; died 1897 St Peters, NSW : NSW Deaths 6362/1897 St Peters 2. John Henry Baker, born 1898 St Peters, NSW : NSW Births 15988/1898 St Peters; died 1968 Sutherland, NSW : NSW Deaths 30819/1968 Sutherland 3. Florence Amy Baler MP I190519 4. George Baker born 1905 Newcastle, NSW : NSW Births

15677/1905 Newcastle ; died 1961 Boolaroo, NSW : NSW Deaths 16866/1961 Boolaroo 5. Edna May Baker MP I84099 born 16 Oct 1907 Narara Rd, Hamilton, Newcastle, NSW : NSW Births 38049/1907 Newcastle; died 5 Oct 1985 17/488 Port Hacking Rd, Caringbah, NSW; Cremated Woronora General Cemetery & Crematorium


Gregory McInnes


Regards,   Ian



From: Gregory McInnes  

Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 5:50 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Baker, Florence A. (I190519)


Proposed Change: Baker,  Florence A. (I190519)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I190519&tree=MP


Description: Full Name: Florence AMY Baker

Born: 1900 St Peters, Sydney : NSW Births 26358/1900 St Peters

Died: 1936 Bega, NSW : NSW Deaths 22080/1936 Bega


Gregory McInnes


Regards,   Ian



From: symonds3
Sent: Friday, 20 March 2015 4:06 PM
Subject: Sarah Jane McMAHON

Hi Ian,


I have been working on my McMAHON family for a number of years, who originated in Ireland.  You have one family member on the Monaro Pioneers website - Susan/Sarah McMAHON married to Thomas GUY - and I would like to pass a few details along to you that may flesh-out a few of her details regarding her parentage.


We originated in Australia with the arrival of Bryan McMAHON, an Irishman from Limerick, who enlisted in the English Army in 1808 aged 14 and fought in the Napoleonic Wars in the 39th Regiment in Messina and Malta, before being sent to Canada to fight in the American War 1812-1815.  He and six others became separated from their regiment on 9th and 10th April 1815, they were tried for desertion on 24th April, and transported to Australia for Life.  Bryan arrived on "Atlas" in July 1816, received a Conditional Pardon in 1832, and built the first inn at Berrima, "McMahon's Inn" on the corner of Bryan and Jellore Streets in Berrima.  Bryan's first child, Allice McMAHON, was baptised in June 1830 at Bong Bong - her sponsors are shown as Patrick McMAHON and Ann MORGAN.


Bryan McMAHON's younger brother, Patrick McMAHON, also joined the English Army, the 103rd Regiment, and served in Canada before returning to England where the regiment was disbanded in 1817.  Patrick's pension records show he was wounded on the right-hand side, admitted 25 June 1818, and was a Chelsea Pensioner.  Patrick arrived in Australia aboard "Orpheus" as a convict guard attached to the NSW Veterans Company in 1826.  Patrick McMAHON married convict Ann MORGAN on 2 August 1830 at St Matthew's Church of England, Windsor-NSW.  They appear on the Convicts Permission to Marry Index, granted 7 July 1830.  Patrick died 2 April 1862 at Sutton Forest, and is buried at Berrima Cemetery in an unmarked grave.  His daughter His brother (my ggg-grandfather) Bryan McMAHON is also buried in Berrima Cemetery with a headstone.


Ann MORGAN was a Welsh convict, born about 1810 in Radnorshire.  Ann MORGAN, aged 19, stole a silver watch from a man in Presteigne-Wales and had two previous convictions, and was transported on the "Princess Royal" arrived May 1829;  on her arrival she was assigned to Lieut William BALL of the Royal Veterans at Windsor.  It seems that Ann MORGAN was in and out of Sydney gaol a number of times over the years, but I haven't established for what offences.  She is mentioned in Babette Smith's book "A Cargo of Women" about the women convicts on the 'Princess Royal' - "Sir Robert Peel's secretary received a letter from the visiting magistrate at the gaol in Presteigne, a small town on the Welsh/English border.  The secretary assured the magistrate that while the law did not authorise females to be sent to the hulks, he would ensure the troublesome dairymaid, Ann Morgan, would be dispatched on the next available transport, which was even then preparing for the voyage.” - also - “The Welsh dairymaid, Ann Morgan, who had married Private Patrick McMahon in 1830, ended her seven year sentence in May 1835.  Over the following six years she was regularly in Sydney gaol until she could raise the bail to get out again.  There are no details of her crimes, but the records indicate her husband was still alive.”


She died 7 August 1852 aged 42 years. Her abode was in Harrington Street in Sydney, and she was buried on 9 August, but her place of burial has not been confirmed - probably Devonshire Street Cemetery.  She and Patrick would appear to have been estranged, as only Sarah is mentioned in the obituary;  Sarah's name is also on her father's death certificate lodged by her cousin Bryan Patrick McMAHON, and likely she was still in contact with her father.



Patrick McMAHON and Ann MORGAN had only one child, Susan Jane McMAHON, born 1831, and baptised at St Mary's Cathedral in Sydney in 1831.  Her name also appears in records as Sarah Jane, or only Jane, at different times.  She was first married to William BAUGHURST on 18 January 1848 at St Andrew's Scots Church in Sydney.  I have no other information on William BAUGHURST, but he is possibly a convict named William BANGHURST who arrived on "Aurora" in 1833 and received his Certificate of Freedom on 23 June 1841.  I have no idea what became of him, but he has disappeared before 1862 when he married Sarah McMAHON.  There seems to be a link between William BAUGHURST/BANGHURST and Thomas GUY, possibly business partners, and Sarah has married Thomas GUY following the death of William -

Sadly, Sarah/Susan/Jane died 28 September 1862, only 25 days after her marriage to Thomas GUY, and 5 months after the death of her father. 

Hoping some of the above information may prove useful to you. 

Best wishes,  Trish Symonds
Nowra NSW

Thank you,

Regards,   Ian



On 19/03/2015 14:03, Matt wrote:

Proposed Change: Rixon,  Mary Louise (I54064)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I54064&tree=MP


Description: Change of Date and Place of Death.

Correct details:


Date of Death: 17 December 2003

Place of Death: Toronto, NSW, Australia



Thank you,

Regards,  Ian


On 19/03/2015 11:07, Bruce Stubbs wrote:
Proposed Change: Mansfield, Maria Jane (I230993)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Description: Children also:

James Hopkins I303667 (father is listed as John on death certificate)

William Mustard I16442 (father is listed as William on death

John Charles Mansfield I82117 (died 19th Sept 1935 in Redfern - listed
as Richardson. BDM NSW Index 12794/1935. father = Richardson (this is
his step-father)

Bruce Stubbs
Thanks Bruce,
Can you please tell me when and where James Hopkins died?
Regards, Ian

Hi Ian,

James died 25 Sept 1963 in Rosanna VIC.

Attached is his headstone of his and Elizabeth Jane Cameron's grave.


What Cemetery are they buried in?

Hi Ian,

James and his wife and two children are all buried at the Warringal Cemetery, Heidelberg VIC.

Regards,   Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



On 19/03/2015 10:53, Marian Donnelly wrote:

Proposed Change: Hartneady,  Mary (I248860)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I248860&tree=MP


Description: As I am travelling to Ireland I was interested in "Farcia County Clare" where Mary Hartneady was noted to have been born. I  did some research to see where it was and kept coming up with blanks for Farcia. After a bit of web searching I have come to the conclusion that "Farcia" is a misspelling and it should be FEAKLE. There are a few referenced to the Hartneady Family in Feakle County Clare.


Marian Donnelly

Hi Marian,

Thanks for letting us know.

Regards,  Ian



On 18/03/2015 16:58, Kaye Bedingfield wrote:

Proposed Change: Peisley,  Jessie (I241164)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I241164&tree=MP


Description: Jessica Canice Peisley

Born 28th December 1914, Died 7th June 1963 aged 48  Buried Catholic Section of Bombala Cemetery.

Married Kevin Arthur Bedingfield 1st January 1941 Five children - Lawrence John Bedingfield Janice Mary Bedingfield Kaye Elizabeth Bedingfield Michael Gerard Bedingfield Timothy Joseph Bedingfield


Kaye Bedingfield

Thank you Kaye,

Regards,  Ian



From: Wayne Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2015 8:27 PM
Subject: Corrections to listing on Monaro Pioneers

Hi Ian,

I wish to draw your attention to a number of errors in the list of Irene Lillian Turner and Philip Allen Mark Robinson (incorrectly spelt as "Phillip Alan Mark Robinson") my grandparents:


1. The spelling of my grandfathers names is incorrect and should be spelt as "Philip Allen Mark Robinson" as per his marriage certificate NSW BDM 1467/1938 and Cooma Cemetery list for lawn plot 559.


2. The "Children from the marriage were" is incorrectly ordered and should be as follows:

Children from this marriage were

   F    i.  Rosalind Lillian Robinson was born in 1939 in Cooma, NSW and died in 1939 in Cooma, NSW. 

   F    ii.  Margaret Lillian Robinson

   M   iii. Phillip James Robinson

   F    iv. June Victoria Robinson

   M    v. Anthony Owen Robinson

3. Note the above correction for Rosalind as per NSW BDM death certificate 897/1939 which also has a second listing as name "stillborn".  


Should you require further details or clarification, please don't hesitate to contact me.


Regards,   Wayne Anderson

Hi Wayne,

Thank you for letting us know,

Regards,  Ian



From: Stephen Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2015 6:04 PM
Subject: Changes to my Grandmother's entry on the Eden Monaro Pioneers

Hi Ian


After some extensive research exploring my grandmother’s family, I would like to offer the following to your database:


My Grandmother: Alice Maud SMITH

ID: I70696

Ref No: MP 70696

Born: She was born 19 June 1879 in Bombala, NSW.  (According to your database she was born is the USA; which is incorrect). 

Died: Ballarat, Victoria 1966

Buried: Colac, Victoria


Alice Maud Smith’s father was: Henry Smith

Born: 1835/6

Died: 1 August 1920 (Aged 84)

Buried: Bombala Cemetery, NSW

Henry’s Father: Charles Smith

Henry’s Mother: Unknown


Alice Maud Smith’s Mother was:  Elizabeth Anne Smith (nee Adams)

Born: 1849/8

Died: 17 November 1929 (Aged 80)

Buried: With her husband Henry Smith at Bombala Cemetery, NSW

Elizabeth’s Father: Thomas Adams

Elizabeth’s Mother: Roseanne Adams


Henry and Elizabeth Smith’s Children:

1.       Alice Maud Smith (my grandmother – details above)

2.       Harry George Smith b. 1881 Bombala, NSW   m. Caroline A Whitby 1911   d. 1957 Petersham

3.       Ellen Edith Smith b. 1882 Bombala, NSW

4.       Ada Smith b. 1884 Bombala, NSW    m. Fredrick W Newport 1905    d. 1980

5.       Beatrice Smith  b. 1887    d. 1889


Hope this helps?    Happy to support your database.

Stephen Kelly

Hi Stephen,

Thank you for the information.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian

Sorry to do this to you.  Can you please hold off on making the changes re my Grandmother Alice Maud Kelly.  One of my sisters has alerted me to some problems in the reliability of the info I forwarded to you.  I am now concerned that it is incorrect.  As you would appreciate, it is extremely difficult when trying to identify my family roots with the name of Smith.  Just when you think you have it right, you are knocked backwards to the starting point of the journey time and time again.

Once again, my apologies.  I sincerely thought I had 'cracked the nut' this time, but alas, no.

Thanks,  Stephen Kelly

Hi Stephen,

We already had your Smith family in our database with only the link to Alice Maud and Charles Kelly missing.  We can always correct it should you discover any more incorrect entries.

Regards,  Ian



From: Sylvia Bowman
Sent: 2015-03-17 4:48 PM
Subject: McRae's in the Monaro area attn. Kevin Browning


Hi David, can you relay this message to Mr. Kevin Browning, I'm not sure that his email is still the one on the Monaro Web site.

Some time ago like maybe 2 yrs. I contacted him regarding a posting he made about a Mr. Donald McRae.  Kevin posted a cutting out of a newspaper about Mr. Donald McRae going on a walk to get his morning paper and died.

From a book which I purchased at one of the Clan Gatherings in Toukley on the Central Coast NSW that had been published under the name Macraes Down Under, compiles from genealogies supplied by members of the Macrae Family History group, Flora Willmott and Jack McRae.

I had a feeling when I saw the clipping that it could be my line of family from my grandmother Sylvia Mary McRae.

And today yep, Kevin and I are related.  Not only by this family but the marrying of brother/sister to sister/brother as well. 

I guess you can tell I'm excited. I think it means that Kevin and I are related.

I don't know where Kevin's family come into the picture, but we had, on 14th February, 2015 a clan gathering in Armidale to attend the AGM  (members of the newsletter) and the Laird of the McRae clan, Hon. Marigold McRae and her daughter the constable of the Eilean Donan Castle in Scotland were touring Aus. and NZ.  We had a great time.

I won't babble on but a lot of information on the McRae's in the Monaro could be accessed by this book. I'll look to purchase another copy and send it to the Monaro Pioneers, or better still the last male member of my family is my Dad's 

brother Harry Bowman, in Canberra. Alas Harry is in his 90's and has Dementia.


Hi Sylvia,

No luck with sending the emails to Kevin so the fall-back position will be to publish your email in the next MP Newsletter.

Cheers, David



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2015 7:36 AM
Subject: Headstone of Colin Allan Grant

Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for Colin Allan Grant.


He is buried at


Woronora General Cemetery & Crematorium Sutherland NSW

Loc: Anglican; Section: 6; Position: 0869

Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Katrina

Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 7:06 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Warren, Edith Ann (I70785)


Proposed Change: Warren,  Edith Ann (I70785)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I70785&tree=MP


Description: Edith Ann Warren was born 6 January 1884  and died 11 June 1974 at Canley Vale.



Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: Katrina  

Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 7:01 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Warren, Thomas (I70778)


Proposed Change: Warren,  Thomas (I70778)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I70778&tree=MP


Description: Thomas Warren died 17 July 1887 at Billylingera and was buried 19 July 1887 at Cooma as per his death certificate



Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: Katrina

Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 6:56 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Warren, Thomas (I70787)


Proposed Change: Warren,  Thomas (I70787)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I70787&tree=MP


Description: Thomas Warren was born 12 October 1854 Goulburn and baptised 26 January 1855 at St Saviours Church. His parents were Thomas Warren and Sarah Pheobe. Thomas died 4 October 1887 at Nimitybelle and was buried in the old church of England cemetery Nimitybelle. All information as per his birth and death certificates.



Thank you Katrina, we can add a copy of his BC and DC to his record in our database if you wish to supply them.

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs

Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 9:06 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Ivill, Mary Alma (I265101)


Proposed Change: Ivill,  Mary Alma (I265101)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I265101&tree=MP


Description: Mary's parents are Whelan, Julia Grace ID I58847 and Ivill, Percival Augustus, I93290


Bruce Stubbs

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 8:23 AM
Subject: Headstone of Marion Mary Ann Rozynski


Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for Marion Rozynski.


Marion was buried in the General Section; Row I; Position Number: 83 of the Delegate Cemetery NSW.


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 8:07 AM
Subject: Headstone of David Henry Sturgess and Mary Rowley Lane


Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for David Henry Sturgess and Mary Rowley Lane.


Both are buried in the Church of England Section of the Orbost and District Cemetery.


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 7:51 AM
Subject: Headstone for John Sturgess and Anne Frances Allen


Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for John Sturgess and Anne Frances Allen.


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs  

Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 7:37 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Smith, Alfred Donald (I58971)


Proposed Change: Smith,  Alfred Donald (I58971)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I58971&tree=MP


Description: Death = 21 JUL 1993 (Ryerson Index)


Bruce Stubbs

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 7:31 AM
Subject: Headstone for Robert Sivewright and Mary Ann Martin

Hi David and Ian,


Please find attached headstone for Robert Sivewright and Mary Ann Martin.

Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs  

Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 7:22 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Woods, Edmund Francis (I3913)


Proposed Change: Woods,  Edmund Francis (I3913)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I3913&tree=MP


Description: Death = 31 JAN 1983 at Erowal Bay (Ryerson Index)


Bruce Stubbs

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Sunday, 15 March 2015 2:08 PM
Subject: Headstone of Lionel Vernon Roberts

Hi David and Ian,


Attached is the headstone of James Frederick Victor Roberts.


Buried at


Rookwood Necroplois, Anglican & General Cemetery Trusts, Rookwood NSW


Area: Angelican; Pvte 1039; 18 Batt ALF; Section 15; Row 30; Grave No. 4588


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Sunday, 15 March 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Headstone of George Grogan and Myrtle Roberts


Hi David and Ian,


Attached is the headstone for George Grogin (Grogan) and Myrtle Roberts.


Buried at


Rookwood Necroplois, Anglican & General Cemetery Trusts, Rookwood NSW


Area: Anglican; Section 7; Row 19; Plot 747/748


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs

Sent: Sunday, 15 March 2015 1:16 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Nicholson, Joan (I266852)


Proposed Change: Nicholson,  Joan (I266852)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I266852&tree=MP


Description: Middle name = Elizabeth.


Married in 1954 in Marrickville NSW (BDM NSW Index 16445/1954)to David Smallwood Pearse.


Died 29th April 2008 in Warilla NSW (Ryerson Index).


David was born in 1921 and died 24th June 2005 in Warilla NSW (Ryerson Index)


Bruce Stubbs

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Sunday, 15 March 2015 1:28 PM
Subject: Headstone of James and Ameila Brownlie

Hi Ian and David,


Attached is the headstone for James Brownlie and Amelia Jane Rixon.


Buried at


Rookwood Necroplois, Anglican & General Cemetery Trusts, Rookwood NSW


Area: Anglican; Section 13; Row: 9; Grave Number: 0000206


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian



On 13/03/2015 07:42, Kevin Wallace wrote:

Proposed Change: Dwyer,  Bridget (I257849)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I257849&tree=MP


Description: National Library of Australia - Trove


The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW: 1842   1954)  Friday December 31, 1875.

Page 5.




An inquest was held at Upper Araluen on the body of Mrs. Joseph Roberts, who fell into a diggers' hole last Monday, after being at a party.  She died yesterday .  From the appearance of the body, foul play was suspected.  A verdict of accidental death was returned.


* * * * * * * * * * *


The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW: 1842   1954)  Friday January 7, 1876.

Page 5.

EXTRAORDINARY VERDICT - At an inquest hold last week, at Araluen, before the Braidwood coroner and a jury of twelve men, touching the death of an old lady named Bridget Roberts, the local journal reports that this intelligent jury handed in the following verdict:- "That deceased came by her death through accidentally falling into a hole of decomposed granite on 27th December instant."


Kevin Wallace


Regards,  Ian



On 13/03/2015 07:38, Kevin Wallace wrote:

Proposed Change: Roberts,  Joseph (I257848)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I257848&tree=MP


Description: National Library of Australia - Trove


Freeman's Journal (Sydney, NSW: 1850 1932) Saturday November 25, 1877.

Page 9.



(From our Correspondent.)

Sad and violent deaths appear to be the order of the day.  I chronicled one in your columns about a fortnight ago; it now becomes my duty to give the main facts of another heartrending case which occurred last Wednesday night.  A man named Joseph Roberts was driving his sister to her home in Upper Arnluen on the night mentioned at abut half-past 9 o'clock, when the cart in which they were riding suddenly bumped considerably, throwing the driver out of his cart on to the top of his head   as he never spoke more.  Death must have been instantaneous.  The funeral took place on Saturday last, and was very largely attended.  I should have mentioned that an inquest was held on the body at Mrs. Costello's hotel, Araluen, by the Coroner  Bonn, Esq., J.P.  After hearing the evidence, the jury (6) returned the following verdict, "That the deceased was killed by being accidentally thrown out of a cart .


Kevin Wallace

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: Pam Birchall
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2015 9:05 PM
Subject: Bliss Family

Hello Ian,


With Anzac Day so close I’ve been doing a little bit of research here at The Heads to try & help our very busy R S L Secretary complete the ‘Deceased Members’ File which goes back quite a few years.  Some of the records before he was elected have been archived so I’m trying to fill in some gaps.  So that led to talk about family trees so I looked up Ancestry and there was his tree done so wasn’t he lucky.


Yesterday I was talking to his wife {we’ve not met as she is not a well lady & doesn’t attend meetings etc.} and she thanked me for giving Phill the information and yes, the conversation turned to her tree & I said, if, someone had also put her tree on Ancestry I would print it out for her.  Of course I couldn’t be so lucky but I’ve been doing some looking & turned to your site as I usually do & there was the Bliss family.  I had also found a very great deal on the Bliss Family online by googling  “George Henry Bliss +” .  I’m sure you’ll have seen it already, but if not, well >>>   Shirley Anne nee Connell and is the Granddaughter of Alice V.M. Bliss who married Nicholas M Connell.  Shirley seems to think the Connell’s were O’Connell’s before they came to Australia.


So, I just wanted to say thank you for what you have on your site, especially for giving Shirley a Convict.  Once I find some time to do some research I’ll pass on what I find.  That is after I’m back from Qld. and my model train Convention.


As always, my best regards,   Pam..

Thanks Pam,

Regards,  Ian



From: Jeff Lehmann
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2015 7:07 PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers

Hello Ian,

I am a researcher for the Sale & District Family History group.

We are at present researching the older homes in Sale and who Lived in them or owned the properties.

One such property was purchased by Thomas Venables. Thomas married Ellen Thomson.

We have found his marriage and his 12 children.  On your site there is a photograph of Thomas and Ellen.

I have emailed dorothymulvihill@hotmail.com for permission to use it in our publication.  To date there has

been no response. Is it possible through you to obtain permission to use it and do you have a short story about

Thomas and Ellen we could use, also their birth and death dates.


Regards,   Sandy Lehmann

Hi Sandy,

Is your organisation planning to charge a fee for the results of your efforts?

Regards,   Ian

Thanks for your reply Ian,


Yes, once we have the publication put together we sell the books raise funds to keep our group going.  Unfortunately we are not eligible for other funding so we have to raise it ourselves.

The photograph would be on a page with the Bon Accord home and the person or group who own the photograph acknowledged as a contributor.


regards,   Sandy

P.S   If you are interested we have a facebook page and a listing on flika.

Hi Sandy,

You have already used the only contact information we have.  Any other information we have is already on our website.

Regards,  Ian


From: Chris Livingstone
Sent: 2015-03-11 2:22 PM
Subject: Newspaper Clippings and Grave Photos

Hi hard working fellows,


I really appreciate for your hard work on your website and I want to help you!


1. I have been extensively finding in Troves and attending libraries to search for Birth, Death, Obituaries and Marriages Notices has given me clues of information is very helpful to add in my tree. If any are in your website do you wish a copy of the newspaper clippings?


2. I have been at Queanbeyan and Michelago Cemeteries in 2013, and other Cemeteries including Rookwood and took grave photos of my ancestors that is in my tree, not all of them and have watermarked it because it is my hard work but I am happy to share it in your website. Will you be happy have my photos watermarked ‘'says ‘taken by clivo1961@tpg.com.au’ to put in your website?


Please let me know if you want them to which email address? I rather email it to you rather post a CD.

Warm Regards,  Chris

Hi Chris,

Yes we welcome any headstone images you can contribute (even with a watermark).

Preferably we would like to receive transcriptions of any newspaper entries if possible, saves space and can be more appropriately attached to the event in an individual's record.

Regards,  Ian



On 11/03/2015 13:40, Chris Livingstone wrote:

Proposed Change: Butler,  George David (I98976)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I98976&tree=MP


Description: He died on 19th October 1890 at Bombala. The source is from 2 newspapers is The Sydney Morning Herald on Thursday 23 October 1890, page 1 and Evening News on Thursday 30 October 1890, page 2.


Is he is buried at Bombala Cemetery? I have seen someone took all graves at Bombala Cemetery is sharing with you from previous newsletter, I would appreciate a copy asp?


Many thanks, Chris

Thank you Chris, the last 3 years newsletters are available to view on our website.

I can find no record of his burial in the Bombala Cemetery lists.

Regards,  Ian



On 11/03/2015 08:56, Kevin Wallace wrote:

Proposed Change: Axelby,  Keith Albert (I347711)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I347711&tree=MP


Description: Marriage of Keith Albert Axelby and Tessie Sharp


The Canberra Times (ACT: 1926-1995) Wednesday February 16, 1944 Page 4.


Axelby Sharp

The wedding took place at St. John's on Saturday, February 5, of Tessie third daughter of Mr. and Mrs. T. Sharp, of Westridge, to Keith, second son of Cpl. and Mrs. A. Axelby, of Westridge.

The bride, who entered the church on the arm of her father, wore a charming old world style frock of satin brocaded taffeta and an embroidered veil which fell from a coronet of orange blossom and tulle.  She carried a bouquet of frangipanai and carnations.

She was attended by her sister Dulcie, who chose old gold lace over taffeta, with a matching veil which was held in place by a top knot of tiger lilies.  She carried a bouquet of tiger lilies and delphiniums.

The flower girls were the nieces of the bride and looked sweet in green georgette frocks. They carried baskets of roses and hydrangeas.

The groom's brother Colin Axelby, was best man.

While the Register was being signed Mr. J. Owens sang "Because."

After the ceremony 70 guests were received by Mrs. Sharp, who wore a black and white frock with black accessories.  The groom's mother also chose black and white.


Kevin Wallace

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: Laurie
Sent: Tuesday, 10 March 2015 9:14 PM
Subject: Death Notice Pat Umback

Hi Ian,


I am enclosing the death notice for inclusion in the Monaro Pioneers Index. Also in the Bega District News of 10/3/2015.


Taken from the Merimbula News of 10/3/1915.  I notice he is not listed with George and Winifred's other children (who are now deceased) on the Monaro Pioneers Index.  Looks like he would have a large family to add as well.


Regards,  Laurie Marlin


12/10/1926 ~ 20/01/2015
Youngest son of George & Winifred Umback (both dec) Brother of Fred, Joe, Alf, Jean, Tom (all dec) of Wyndham
He is survived by his wife Grace, six children, thirteen grandchildren, two great grandchildren.
He successfully run Umbacks Tractor/diesel service at the Rock for 60 years.
Sadly Missed

04/03/2015  -  DEATH NOTICES

Thank you Laurie,

Regards,  Ian



On 10/03/2015 17:43, ramona wrote:

Proposed Change: Bombala, NSW

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/placesearch.php?tree=MP&psearch=Bombala%2C+NSW


Description: Ellen Jackson married Ah hung on 8th January 1876




Regards,  Ian



On 10/03/2015 14:25, Kaye Bedingfield wrote:

Proposed Change: Bedingfield,  James Montague (I31949)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I31949&tree=MP


Description: I have no record of an Emily Bedingfield but have to request changes of details to others and an addition of one please.

Kevin Bedingfield son of James Montague Bedingfield - born 28/9/16 died 22/7/1990 Marion was born 18/12/1910, died October 1910 Aileen was born 21/2/1912, died 24/2/1912 Desmond was born 17/12/1914


Kaye Bedingfield

Thank you Kaye,

Regards,  Ian



From: Judith Quinn
Sent: 2015-03-08 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: Monaro Pioneers Newsletter


Dear David

Thank you for the latest newsletter which prompted me to have another look at the website.

My grandmother is Linda Gunning (Campbell) reference MP331967. My research differs to what appears on the website and I would be grateful for any assistance/confirmation from any of your members as I have come to a ‘brick wall’.


From my research:

Robert Allendale Campbell and Mary Ann Good were married 19/7/1883 (see attached); had one child William James Campbell born 15/1/1884 who died short thereafter. Mary Ann died 26/8/1888 and is buried at Enfield Cemetery (death transcript attached).

Robert Campbell died 9/2/1939 (death transcript attached) which shows his wife as Mary Anne Good. This has caused much confusion because the first Mary Ann Campbell died in 1888 but the second Mary Ann Campbell died in 1936 (see attached death transcript). So it appears he had two partners, both named Mary Ann, but details for the second Mary Ann have been interposed with the details of the first Mary Ann. I THINK.

Linda was born 31/8/1893. Her birth was not registered but confirmed through her baptism at Goulburn (baptised Elizabeth) where her parents are shown as Robert Campbell and Mary Walshe. From her father’s death transcript it shows his last child as Donald (born 2/11/1913) and a copy of his birth transcript is attached and shows his mother as Mary Ann Good (which couldn’t be as she died in 1883).

I also think Robert Allendale had another son, Archibald born about 1890. Attached is a copy of Olive Campbell’s birth transcript (born 12/12/1897). This was also used as confirmation of my grandmother’s birth.

There is a lot of confusion within this family. From my grandmother’s marriage certificate, it shows her mother as Mary Agnes Wallace. From various baptismal certificates of her siblings it shows Mary Agnes Walsh(e).


So I think Mary Agnes Good was the mother to Robert’s first child, William, but not to the other children.

My brick wall is ‘who is my great grandmother’?


David, any comment or thoughts would be appreciated.


Regards,   Judith Quinn


Hi Judith,

Quite a puzzle you have.  There is certainly no way to clearly resolve the matter from the certificates you supplied.  Which only leaves "educated guesses".  A couple of possible clues, the first being the fact that Mary Ann Campbell nee Good the first, died in Heydon Street, Enfield, Sydney and the death informant was James Witton of the same address - were they in a relationship before her death?

Second, if Robert and Mary were separated at the time of her death, was Robert in a relationship with Mary Anne/Agnes Wallace/ Walshe and they simply had the second Mary Anne/Agnes assume the identity of the first Mary Ann for convenience.   

There is an Annie M. Good born to Benjamin and Mary Good (Mary Ann the 1st's sister) but she is born in 1887 which is far too young to be the mysterious Mary Anne/Agnes the 2nd.

From the certificates there is obviously another female unaccounted for.

Sorry I can't be of much help but I have changed our records to best reflect what you have established.

Regards,  Ian

Thank you so much Ian.

It does look like the second Mary assumed the identity of the first Mary but I have no idea why and I don’t know how or what to do to try and clarify further.

There is certainly no way to clearly resolve the matter from the certificates you supplied – what other certificates could I obtain which may help?

If I could only find others researching this family, they may have some clues but I am thinking no one else has come up with the two Mary’s, everyone has accepted it as has been on your website.

If you think of anything I can do I would be most appreciative.

Thanking you,  Judith

Hi Judith,

I think your only hope is to find a descendant of the family who has family knowledge.

Regards, Ian




From: Bruce Stubbs

Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 7:48 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Armstrong, Mary A. (I146218)


Proposed Change: Armstrong,  Mary A. (I146218)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I146218&tree=MP


Description: Mary A is Mary Ann Armstrong, born 1911. Mother to June Margaret Young (I231080)


Bruce Stubbs

Thank you Bruce,


Your MP Facebook page initiative is an outstanding success and a marvellous addition to the Eden Monaro cause and I for one congratulate you for the effort and ongoing support.


Regards,  Ian



From: Janice Williams
Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 8:30 PM
Subject: William Edward Hargraves Hammond


Dear Ian,

I’ve been checking the family tree for my cousins and came across your conversation with Lynne Hammond on the Monaro Pioneers website.

My cousins are descendents of  Florence E Hammond born in Paddington. After looking at NSW Birth Deaths and Marriages Florence’s parents are William E H Hammond and Mary. I found the marriage certificate for William and Mary Keane in 1876. I also found William E H Hammond born in 1851 to parents Henry and Ellen. Henry Hammond and Eleanor McQuigan married 1848. According to Lynne’s email William’s brother Arthur was born in 1849(I didn’t find anything for his birth). I found a death certificate in for Ellen Hammond in 1855. The marriage certificate for a Henry Hammond and Jane Reynolds states they were married in 1857.  Jane Reynolds is Henry Hammonds second wife and she isn’t the mother of Arthur or William Hammond. Coming into a conversation and not knowing the full story can be hard to work out. You might already know this information but this is what I discovered.

Kind regards,  Janice Williams

Hi Janice,

Thank you for the email, yes we do in fact have a lot more detail on the Hammond family in our database which is available for you to search and peruse.

Regards,  Ian



From: David
Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 5:50 PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers Newsletter

Hi Ian,


Enjoy reading the newsletter each month and whilst it is lengthy, is certainly worth the read. In this month's newsletter, I was amazed to come across an item that I would have overlooked if only glancing at the names. In this instance "Brown" submitted by James Read (signed off C Read) that name meant nothing but the "Read" did due to some connections on my wife's side.


Even more exciting was when I read the article I saw the name "Elwin Timothy Starr" now that was exciting because he is my Great Uncle, his sister is my Grandmother.


If at the contributor of this article is interested I have a tree on the Boaden's & Starr's that may have information that may be of help to him/her.


Just shows you that you should read each article, you never know what you will find. happy for you to pass on my email address to the Reads if they are interested in following anything up.


Kind Regards,  David McKay

Hi David,

Thank you for the kind words, it is very gratifying to hear you have found the newsletter of interest and value.

The email address for James is .. 'James Read' ……………………………………………

Regards,   Ian



From: Elizabeth Sherry
Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 4:43 PM
Subject: Louisa Quinn

Dear Ian


The following letter was posted in the latest newsletter



From: Joan Butt

Sent: Sunday, 15 February 2015 5:09 PM

Subject: Family Tree information

Hello Ian

Not sure if you can help at My name is Joan Butt and I am the grandaughter of Louisa Ernestine Quinn born Delegate 1900. She gave birth to my father Louis Desmond Quinn in 1916 and passed away 2 weeks later as a result of the pregnancy . The person responsible for the pregnancy was a Thomas Johnson and I would like to find out if there was ever a marriage between Louisa & Thomas. My Great Grandmother was Mary Jane Quinn (nee Foley) she had Louisa to a Mr Henry Clarke as a result of their affair. This was after Marys Janes husband Lawrence Quinn passed away.(1898) Trying to find what the legal name of my father should be as we are unable to obtain his birth certificate. I would appreciate any information if possible so that I can do more for the family Tree. Thank you in advance Joan Butt 



I have downloaded a newspaper clipping from Trove that gives Joan some of the information she was after. Not pleasant reading but explains the circumstances. I am attaching the article and was hoping you would be able to forward it to her as her email address is not given. 

Regards Betty Sherry

Hi Elizabeth,

Joan's email address is 'Joan Butt' ……………………………………

Regards,  Ian



From: Nathaniel jaggers
Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: help contacting a contriutor


Greetings Ian.  In your last newsletter there was a section on ROGAN  13.2.15 from a gent named Tony Paul. He mentioned “The Rogue of Rogans Hill”  My g g g grandfather was John Rogan who was granted land at what is now called Rogans Hill in 1818 by Gov Macquarie.  I would like to contact Tony so that we can compare notes.  Could you please give him my email address  …………………………………………


John was a bit of a rogue. 


On 21st April 1821 the "Sydney Gazette" reported that John Rogan had been appointed a constable for the districts of Castle Hill and Pennant Hills. Four months later (8th September) the same paper reported that William Fishburn had replaced John Rogan as constable. The latter had been dismissed for drunkenness and neglect of duty


Then there was this record of road rage :


On 18th July 1818, in the "Sydney Gazette", John offered this apology: he said that, "in the most wanton manner" he attacked the person and property of Mr James Smith by driving his cart purposely against the one-horse carriage of Mr Smith, and used insulting language to Mr Smith. Mr Smith instituted proceedings against John Rogan, but consented to drop the charges if John would publicly apologise and pay all costs.


Nat Jaggers

Hi Nat,

The contact email address is ………………………..

Regards,  Ian


From: Bruce Stubbs

Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Monaro Pioneers Newsletter

Hi David and Ian,


Did you receive the correspondence I did from the Facebook page for Feb?





On Sunday, 8 March 2015, 8:36, David Knox wrote:


Dear Bruce Stubbs,

The February 2015 edition of the Monaro Pioneers Newsletter is now available from the Monaro Pioneers website. 


Here is the link to access this edition  .....




Thank you & enjoy,


David Knox

Newsletter Editor

Monaro Pioneers

Hi Bruce,


Yes, we received your information.  Given you supplied a copy of what is already on Facebook we decided not to reprint it in the newsletter but to encourage people to use the facebook page.  We do have space constraints on our website so it is necessary to be selective of what we display.


The success of your page is extraordinary and I do think an article that describes the page and what people are using it for would certainly be suitable for the newsletter.  Would you be able to create such an article?   


Regards,  Ian



From: Ronald Boyd
Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2015 10:03 AM
Subject: Marjorie Hope Boyd (Went)

Hi Ian can you possibly update the web page details on my mother Marjorie Hope Boyd (Went) Daughter of George Henry Went


167 ID personal ID 167591
Born Monday 8 November 1924 Pambula Hospital NSW
Died 17 December 2008 Rothwell Aged Care; Rothwell, Brisbane Qld
Cremated 24 December 2008 Norwood park Mitchell ACT


28 July 2012, Marjorie ashes were spread on the waters at the South Western End of the Batemans Bay Bridge abutment.


Photo attached of Marjorie.
I note you have a note


At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld.

I do not quiet understand who this person is and as Marjorie is my mother I give my permission to add these details to your website on our family.
I think personally a photo adds more to the person that just their BDM details

Thanking You,  Ronald Boyd

Hi Ronald,

Thank you for the information and the Photo.

Regards,  Ian



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