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2015 Number 4

 

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 ANNOUNCEMENTS:

 

MONARO PIONEERS now on Facebook

 

The Monaro Pioneers website now has its own Facebook page which is accessible at the following URL:

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/893648944008345/

 

The Monaro Pioneers Facebook page is another source to use to gather family history information.

 

The MP Facebook is  another tool use to help build on the Monaro Pioneers database.

 

The MP Facebook page is a member base Facebook page.

 

Once members are approved, members usually send a thank you and a brief message how they are connected to the Eden/Monaro areas.

 

Members can then exchange family connections i.e. how they are related to each other.

 

Members are welcome to add photos, exchange information or connect to new family members.

 

Milestones such as the number of members are posted every few weeks.

 

A reminder post is posted to the Facebook page for members to refer to the Monaro Pioneers website for further information and to arrange for any updates needed on the database.

 

Photos that are added to the Facebook page may also be added to the MP database.

 

Members can connect to other members directly and send messages, etc. if necessary.

 


Towards Mrs Keefe's Farm

From: John S. Trengove
Sent: 2015-03-11 2:41 PM
Subject: Monaro history

 

Dear David Knox,

 

From one whom has a long held interest in the history of the Monaro, I have recently released a book entitled "Towards Mrs Keefe's Farm", in which your newsletter readers may be interested . 

 

Please see attachment (Book now available.pdf) announcing the availability of the book - a PDF e-book which brings much of the history of the Monaro of New South Wales, and the life of conditionally pardoned convict Joseph Wild, together in one fully illustrated work of 424 pages.

 

Thanking you, and Monaro Pioneers for the excellent work you are doing. 

 

From John S. Trengove (Author)

78 Botha Avenue, Reservoir

Melbourne, 3073

(03) 9469 2990

 

 

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 REQUESTS:

 

GAIT REUNION

Hello David,
Could you please advertise the following Reunion for descendants of William Gait/Bridget Curley to take place at Moss Vale NSW on weekend 30-31st May, 2015.
William and Bridget had four children:   Elizabeth,  Thomas,   Mary,  Ann Dinah (Diana).
Further information can be obtained by emailing me or Jannette Cameron (nee Gait) who is organising the reunion.
Contacts:   
jannette.cameron@bigpond.com    or     imason46@hotmail.com

 

Many thanks,

Irene Mason
 

 


WILLOUGHBY

From: Sue Zammit
Sent: 2014-09-26 7:28 PM
Subject: WILLOUGHBY REUNION 2015 AT BRAIDWOOD NSW

 

Hello David

I would like to introduce myself. My name is Sue Zammit and I live in Gisborne, Victoria. My fathers mothers family were the Smith family from Braidwood NSW. The father was Joseph Smith Born in 1843 in Pinxton, Derbyshire England. He married in 1867 in New Zealand to Mary Jane Granger She was born in 1853 in Surrey, England. They went on to have 16 children. The moved to Braidwood New South Wales, Australia in 1891 and Mary Jane went on to have another3 children, one of which was my grandmother Ethel Dorothea Louisa Smith. One of the Smith girls married into the Willoughby family that was settled in Braidwood. That is where the reunion starts. The Willoughby reunion is to be held at the RSL Club in Braidwood on 26,27,28 Sept 2015 There is a Facebook page under Willoughby reunion. I was wondering if you may be able to put a notice on your web site adverting for any descendents of John Willoughby and Mary Ann Mills. She was a half cast aboriginal. I have loads of information on the whole family if your are interested. I can be contacted at email suzyq14@bigpond.com There should be a very healthy turnout as the Willoughby clan is huge.

Many thanks for your time, hope to hear back from you .

 

Kind regards   Sue Zammit  (Gisborne, Victoria)

 

 

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CURRENT CORRESPONDENCE:

 

From: Gregory McInnes
Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2015 1:02 PM
Subject: Proposed Changes: TOMS, Elsie May I88893

Ian

 

Proposed Change: Toms, Elsie May (I88893)

 

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I88893&tree=MP

 

Description:  This Elsie May Toms born 1895 did not marry Henry Austin Caldwell 

 

See attached MC transcript.

 

Create NEW Elsie May Toms born @1916 to Arthur Toms (I11035) and Myrtle Miriam Kellond (I11036)

 

Attached            MC Transcript – TOMS, Elsie May to CALDWELL, Henry Austin (I88899) 20 May 1936  NSW Marriage Reg. 9178/1936

 

Regards, Gregory

Thanks Gregory,

Regards,  Ian

 


MEAKER

From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2015 9:45 AM
Subject: Headstone for Harriet Jane Meaker ID 15693

Hi David and Ian,

 

Please find attached headstone for Harriet Jane Meaker, buried at Pambula Cemetery NSW.


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian

 


BROADHEAD

From: Marg Denley
Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2015 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: Broadhead Family

Hi Ian

 

Just want to advise change of details Betty Broadhead Person ID I45361 (Daughter Daniel & Ettie Martha Frances Broadhead (nee Thomas)

Date of Death 30 April 2015 Delegate Nursing Home Delegate NSW

Burial 5 May 2015 Cooma Mittagang Lawn Cemetery.

 

Cheers,  Marg Denley

Thank you Marg,

Regards,  Ian

 


GRANT

From: jenny penno

Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2015 3:43 PM

Subject: grant family tree

 

Hello Ian My name is Jenny Penno & I’m the granddaughter of Charles Harold Grant the youngest son of Henry Grant jr.

I noticed Charlie Grant has hardly any info… He married Henrietta Vaughn in Sydney & had three children. Colin now deceased, Peter who is still luckily with us, and Hazel Dawn my mother who passed away in 2010.

He lived in Kingsford in Sydney & was greenskeeper for a park behind Kingsford junction. He apparently invented the stuff the use to mark basketball courts etc on grass.

I”ll tell uncle Peter about this & he’ll be able to provide more information. Also about Bob (Robert) Grant the second youngest of henry jr.

This is all very exciting as I moved down here to Brogo a few years ago. I knew Granddad Charlie was born in Wyndam & have visited it a couple of times to see the cemetery but i had no idea how many Grants there are. Its lovely to end up down here close to Wyndam with so many distant relatives around. I went to a market day in Wyndam & went into the hall & almost yelled out “I’m a Grant” just to see what happened.

Thanks for all your great work. Who are you a descendent of?

regards,  Jenny.=

Hi Jenny,

Thank you for the information.  If your Uncle Peter can provide any further information we would be most grateful.  Photos are also most welcome.

 

Perhaps when you want to "advertise" you are a Grant, you may want to also add you're related to the Scottish Grants so as not to be confused with the Irish Grants.

 

My wife is a Grant, her GGrandfather was Robert Grant, Henry's older brother.

Regards,  Ian

 


O’CONNOR

On 01/05/2015 19:13, Colleen Raynes wrote:

> Proposed Change: O'Connor,  Joseph (I66667)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I66667&tree=MP

>

> Description: Joseph O'Connor should be William Joseph O'Connor.

> William Joseph married Ethel Christina Thompson in 1916 at Cowwarr.

> They are my maternal grandparents. William (Bill) O'Connor was born at

> Briagolong, Victoria in 1880 and died 24th April 1969 at Geelong,

> Victoria. He is the son of Edward O'Connor and Bridget O'Connor nee

> Duggan

>

> Colleen Raynes

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


MCGREGOR

From: Peter Willis
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2015 5:05 PM
Subject: JOHN MCGREGOR [MP42728]

Hi Ian,

 

John McGregor is my Great x4 Grandfather. Currently the MP Webpage places his birth year c.1760 and without prior ancestral information.

 

I recently sourced information on Malcom McGregor [MP42731] being my Great x3 Grandfather; that records his father as John McGregor born 29th April 1770.

 

I am slightly sceptical as to its accuracy of this link but on face value I am unable to fault it. (My concern is; has the correct John McGregor been linked to the correct marriages & descendants)?

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The new information indicates:

 

John McGregor was born 29th April 1770 at Forteviot, Perth, Scotland. John married twice. He had one child with Mary McILREVIE. He had two children with Mary McMurchy (i.e. John & Malcolm).

John McGregor (the senior) died in 1856.

 

The information supplied on Malcolm from this source was:

Malcolm McGregor was born in Campbeltown Argyllshire Scotland on 15th March 1797 to John McGregor & Mary McMurchy. Malcolm married Isabella McILCHERE and had eight children. Malcolm passed away 5th July 1861 in Cooma NSW Australia. (This is consistent with MP Webpage)

 

The parent details from this source for John McGregor (the senior):

 

Alexander McGregor (Born Scotland c.1738) and was to marry Katrine Lindsay (Born Scotland c.1743) on the 26th December 1768 in Forteviot, Perthshire Scotland. They had three children all born in Forteviot.

John McGregor, born 29th April 1770 and died 1856 (as above)

Mary McGregor born 12th May 1771 was to marry Henry Deas 3rd February 1799 at Arngask. Died & was buried 20th November 1838 at Arngask.

Jean McGregor born 5th June 1774 further information unknown

 

Alexander McGregor died 30th May 1814 in Arngask. The details of Katrine’s death are not stated.

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Unfortunately at that point I lost the connection to the relevant webpage & have since been unable to find it to review.

 

However if anyone is currently researching the McGregor name or have updated primary documentation - they may be able to confirm or discount the above information– principally - that “our” John McGregor was born in 1770 and his parents were Alexander & Katrine!

 

Thank you,  Peter Willis

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


From: SuzieQ
Sent: 2015-05-01 8:59 AM
Subject: Rootsweb and Monaro Pioneers
 

Hello David

 

Is Monaro Pioneers being removed permanently from Rootsweb?

 

Regards,  Sue Lopes

Hi Sue, 

Yes the Monaro Pioneers database has been removed from Rootsweb for the time being.  Given that it was a limited subset of the real database available on the MP website it seemed superfluous to continue to maintain that version.  Besides, it was only updated monthly whereas the database on our website is updated daily.

Regards,  Ian

Excellent

Thank you for your reply

I really enjoy the Monaro Pioneers website

Cheers,  Sue


STURAH

On 29/04/2015 22:46, geoffrey john sturah wrote:

Proposed Change: Sturah,  W.H. (I154933)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I154933&tree=MP

 

Description: Wallace Hartley Sturah DOB 19/10/25 Died 15/2/03 buried Bega Cemetry.

 

geoffrey john sturah

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


ROBERSON

From: Betty Fuller

Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2015 6:54 PM

Subject: Francis Roberson line

 

Hello Ian, have been looking at the Francis Roberson line .. My grandmother Lydia married John Thomas Johnson and the list of the children has not listed the youngest .. My mother Annetta Evelyn Johnson was the youngest of the family born February 8th 1908 .. Would it be possible to add her name ..

 

Betty Fuller

Hi Betty,

Can you please tell me your father's details and when and where he married your Mum?

Regards,  Ian

 


HAIN

On 29/04/2015 18:40, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Hain,  Suzanne (I206370)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I206370&tree=MP

 

Description: Suzanne Janet CASTLES (nee Hain) Late of Queanbeyan, formerly of Bombala Passed away 7th April, 2015, at Clare Holland House Canberra.

Loved daughter of Clem (dec) and Freda. Loving mother to Melanie, Ryan and partners. Proud grandmother of four grand children. Much loved sister to Tony and Gail. Niece to Janet Niven.

Will always be loved and remembered by her family and many friends.

 

ANNOUNCEMENTS : IN MEMORIAM

22/04/2015 Bombala Times

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


SUMMERRELL

On 29/04/2015 18:37, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Summerrell,  Austin Charles (I1917)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I1917&tree=MP

 

Description: New individual, RHONDA SUMMERRELL b @1947 dau of Austin and Heather Summerrell

 

FORD (nee Summerrell) Rhonda of Dapto, formerly of Cathcart Lost her battle on March 30, 2015.

Loved daughter to Austin and Heather Summerrell (both dec). Cherished > mother of Daryl, Jodie, Debbie and their partners. Much loved Nanna > Rhonda and big Nan. Adored sister to Trudy, Margaret, Alby, Peter, > Dennis, Christine, Wayne, Maree, Kenny, Johnny.

Aged 68 years

Never forgotten

Laid to rest at > Bombala Cemetery

 

ANNOUNCEMENTS : DEATH NOTICES

22/04/2015 Bombala Times

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


MEIN

On 29/04/2015 17:52, Jenni wrote:

Proposed Change: Family: Mein,  Robert/Hay,  Isabella (F99251)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F99251&tree=MP

 

Description: Hi, David and 2nd wife Wilhelmina went to Clermont Qld in late 1890's. Things didn't go so well and David disappeared off the SS Julia Percy in November 1899. He left a note in his bag in his cabin.

We think he found out that Wilhelmina had conned him and he had made a fool of himself regarding her.

You have Wilhelmina marrying in WA in 1931 - not so. She went back to Sydney and married Patrick Coleman about 1904. That marriage didn't last as Patrick shot through and died in Lancaster. Wilhelmina had a couple

of fraud issues as   she had money problems. She put the 2

oldest boys into an orphanage and kept the youngest boy and only girl with her. One of the boys (Allan)accidentally shot a man in 1913 and was sentenced to death but this was commuted. Wilhelmina changed the spelling to "Mayne" and their Christian names slightly. When her daughter Olive died her mother on death cert was named as Jane Elizabeth Taylor. Later Jane Mayne/Main popped up on the electoral roll in NSW with one son Edwin and Roland Allan (Allan). Jane died in 1941 in Sydney. When I tracked down a grandson of hers his first question was "who is Wilhelmina?" David's eldest kids never liked or trusted her and tried to find out info about her but never could. Her father was Robert Taylor a brick maker. A couple of her brothers were also and in the Dubbo area. I have info on deaths and marriages of the children of David and Elizaeth Gorman if you would like it. If you can find out anything about the Cluss part of Wilhelmina I would love to hear it - she apparently turned up at David's with at least one child but it is unknown what happened to it/them.

Regards,   Jenni

Thank you, any additional information you can provide would be much appreciated.

Regards,  Ian

 


ANDREW 

From: rilygb
Sent: Monday, 27 April 2015 12:19 PM
Subject: Alma Andrew nee Grant
 

Hi Ian
I noticed on the Index that Alma Andrew is shown as buried at the Mt Gravatt Cemetery. I hope I did not mislead you with the information I sent.
Alma's husband, Thomas Richard Andrew, is buried at Mt Gravatt. Alma died in Sydney and her ashes were sent to Albany Creek in Brisbane (not Mt Gravatt). I hope that helps.
Would you be able to advise where I might get more information on Melon Dan Grant (in addition to that already shown in the Index)?
Kindly yours,   Rick Andrew

Hi Rick, 

Thanks for letting me know, I will amend our records.

I am not sure what additional information you are seeking for Melon Dan?  Certainly a birth certificate would provide the exact date and place of his birth.  There is also the Electoral roles that should show his residential address and occupation for each of the years he is listed, Ancestry.Com have these roles on-line if you are a member.  The National Library via their Trove facility might turn up any newspaper references.   Otherwise, you will need to seek out a close family connection to find any anecdotal stories.

Regards,  Ian

Thanks for this Ian. I appreciate this advice. Will let you know if I can find future relevant information.
Cheers,  Rick


HUTTON

On 28/04/2015 18:14, Kevin wallace wrote:

Proposed Change: Hutton,  John (I349502)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I349502&tree=MP

 

Description: NSW BDM Death Registration John Hutton: 1874/006260

 

John was the sixth child of John Hutton (1835) and Ann Parry (1843).

The information listed here is taken from the death registration.

The boy only lived for five days and died on March 4, 1874.  Because of this there may not be a birth registration.  John died from Convulsions and had not received any medical attention in the five days.

The birthplace is listed as Canadian.  This was a mining area, called Canadian Lead on the Cooyal Creek, in the Home Rule area, east of Gulgong.

John was buried in Gulgong, on March 5; his father acted as the Undertaker and Samuel Bishop and John Whiteway witnessed the burial.

John s (senior) occupation is listed as miner and he was the informant of his son s death.  Ann Perry is listed as the mother.  The registrar of the death was F.L. Osborn on March 23, 1874.  This was the third child to die in infancy.

 

Kevin wallace

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


GOLDSTEIN

On 28/04/2015 12:48, Nuala Goldstein wrote:

Proposed Change: Family: Goldstein,  David/Blumbery,  Dora (F110895)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F110895&tree=MP

 

Description: David Died on the 29 November 1928 in Johannesburg South Africa

 

Solomon Died 5 December 1963 in Johannesburg South Africa

 

Nuala Goldstein

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


DAY/DOWLING

From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2015 7:57 AM
Subject: Headstones of Ernest Raymond Day and Ethel May Dowling

Hi David and Ian,

 

Please find attached headstones of Ernest Raymond Day and Ethel May Dowling.

 

Regards,  Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Regards,  Ian

 


MORGAN

On 27/04/2015 23:01, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Morgan,  Una Valmai (I315822)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I315822&tree=MP

 

Description: Died: 13 April 2011

Buried: Delegate Cemetery. CofE Section, Row N, Grave 4

 

Gregory McInnes

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


GOULD

From: Cheryle Mills

Sent: Monday, 27 April 2015 12:40 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Gould, Amy S. (I51817)

 

Proposed Change: Gould,  Amy S. (I51817)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I51817&tree=MP

 

Description: Ref MP51817 Amy Gould date of death was 1944 in Auburn NSW (died of Asthma) Amy Gould married to David Alexander Bell which were my grandparents, my mother (their daughter) being Lorna Bell.

I have a professional portrait (photograph)of them if it is required.

 

Cheryle Mills

Thank you Cheryle, and yes we would appreciate any images you can provide.

Regards,  Ian

Ian,

Here is the photo of my grandparents I mentioned.  David Alexander Bell (1892-1956) and Amy Bell (nee Gould) (1890-1944)

I have other ancestry information which I will send at a later date.

Kind regards,  Cheryle Mills

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


SHANNON

From: Pam Grover

Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2015 1:09 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Shannon, E.F. (I119518)

 

Proposed Change: Shannon,  E.F. (I119518)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I119518&tree=MP

 

Description: Hi Ian,

Thanks for all your wonderful work on the Monaro website. From the information found there I have discovered both that I have Jewish ancestry and also convict ancestry - both very interesting to learn!

 

I have noted in lots of my family listings that there are only initials used rather than whole names. I was just wondering if there is a reason for this or if it is possible to have this corrected:

 

E.F Shannon is Edith Fay (although always called Fay).

I am listed as P.D Gettens = Pamela (Pam) Dawn.

My husband is listed as U. Grover = David Frederick Grover We also have 3 children, as did my brother Brian - are you interested in this?

 

My mother's sisters are listed as B and E Shannon. They were Barbara Shannon

(dead) and Ruth Shannon (living).

 

Thanks again for your wonderful work!

Regards,   Pam

Hi Pam,

Thanks for the kind words.

 

For privacy reasons, our system only displays surname and initials and no other detail for anyone still living even though we may have quite a lot of information on those individuals in the database.

 

We do have full name and dob for the people you mention (except for you and your husband of course)

 

I am happy to add the information on your children and your brother's children to the database but of course the same rule will apply, if you wish to provide same.  Any additional detail you can supply would be much appreciated.

 

Regards,   Ian

 


ARNOLD / STEWART / SHOOKS / HAGGAR

From: Clay Hancock
Sent: Friday, 24 April 2015 1:35 PM
Subject: Arnold / Stewart / Shooks / Haggar Family Tree

 

Under the instruction from Kerry Ann Shooks, I have been requested to forward to you the attached photos ;-

1)    Francis ‘Frank’ Charles Hagger/Haggar b. 6/8/1898, Bombala NSW, twin brother of Walter E Haggar/Hagger 6/8/1898 – parents John ‘Jack’ Samuel HAGGER 1847, England & Emily Gorman 1847, England John & Emily married in 1876, Bombala, NSW, Australia (ka = Known as, or aka).

2)    Postcard from Francis ‘Frank’ Haggar, to Annie, with comments/remarks noted thereon by his niece Myrtle Maria Alexandrina ARNOLD 1904-1993

3)    Hannah ARNOLD, nee Haggar, 1877-1935 & her daughter Myrtle Maria Alexanderina ARNOLD 1904-1993

 

I suspect the  Postcard addressed to “Annie” is a 1st cousin of Francis ‘Frank’ Charles Haggar, namely Annie Elizabeth HAGGER, b 1875, Bombla, NSW, died 13/4/1905, Bombala, daughter of William James Henry Haggar 1841 & Elizabeth Alice Lomas 1843, married 1861 Bombala.

 

Kerry has requested that I (Clay Hancock) send these photos to you with the direction that the photos have come from herself, ie, Kerry Ann Shooks, 1955, daughter of Reynold Arnold Shooks 1930 Candelo, NSW, & Olga Rosemary Drysdale 1934, Coonamble, NSW – married 1954, Auburn, NSW.

 

I trust that you will be able to attach or place the photos appropriately in connection with either the Stewart / Arnold / Haggar / Shooks family trees.

 

If you have any questions in relation to the photos, please reply back to me;   if I am unable to satisfy your query, I will forward to Kerry for clarification.

 

Kind Regards

 

NB – I will be away travelling from 28/4/2015 to mid June 2015, but still able to receive email & mobile calls.

 

Clay Hancock

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 

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From: kerry Carew
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2015 8:53 AM
To: clay lory
Subject: Re: Please Can You Help Me With These Precious Photo's

Hi Clay,

                FW: Please Can You Help Me With These Precious Photo's

 

I would like these photo's sent to the following and said to have come from myself through Clay Hancock,  our family researcher.

Firstly I want Lex and Diane to have them,  also to Leah Beven who has an image up on Monaro Pioneers Haggar Page of Francis ‘Frank’ Haggar's (born 6/8/1898, #19530) twin brother William (Kerry, this should be Walter E Hagger, the other twin born 6/8/1898, #19531) in his later years, and then Ian Murphy (Kerry, I think this should be Ian Harvey, of Monaro Pioneers – Clay Hancock) Monaro Pioneers, and Maree Worthington.  Would you be able to help get this sorted please I know Maree Worthington has done an awful lot of research re Arnold family and it is excellent work for us all.

Let me know if the txt came up with the photo's Clay.

 

Hear from you soon,   Kerry

 


BALLANTYNE

From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2015 8:51 AM
Subject: Headstone for Rita May Ballantyne

Hi David and Ian,

 

Please find attached headstone for Rita May Ballantyne.


Regards,  Bruce

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


BALLANTYNE/HENRY

From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2015 8:37 AM
Subject: Headstones of Harold Henry and Thora Esme Ballantyne

Hi David and Ian,

 

Please find attached headstones for Harold Henry Ballantyne and Thora Esma Beath.

 

Both are buried in the Pambula Cemetery NSW.

 

Regards,  Bruce

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


BALLANTYNE

From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2015 8:20 AM
Subject: Headstone for Adam Henry Ballantyne

Hi David and Ian,

 

Please find attached the headstone of Adam Henry Ballantyne.

 

Regards,  Bruce

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


BAKER

From: Jan Visinko
Sent: Thursday, 23 April 2015 10:52 AM
Subject: William BAKER 1846-1919 Cathcart my g/grandfather

Hi Ian,

How do I access the genealogy on the Monaro Pioneers website, not having any luck although I used to. Would like to contribute.  I think Simon Baker was contributing but I cannot get him on his Orangetoast email address anymore although we had long email conversations - I would like to connect with him again too. 

Thanks, Jan Visinko, Blue Mountains NSW

Hi Jan,

All the genealogy information we have is contained in our database which is on our website and available to search for free.

 

To access it, just select the "Search the database" link on our home page.  The first time you do use it you will need to register a userid and password of your choosing to be used from then on to login to database.  The process is online and quite simple.

 

Unfortunately if contributors do not notify us of any email address changes, there is little we can do about it.

Regards,  Ian

 


GERATHY

On 19/04/2015 16:12, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Gerathy,  Norma Beryl (I348351)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I348351&tree=MP

 

Description: Born: 21 Sept 1921

Burial Location: Bombala Cemetery, Lawn (Old) Section, Beam B1-B, Grave 17

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


TOMS

On 19/04/2015 16:01, Gregory McInnes wrote:

> Proposed Change: Toms,  Eunice L. (I222199)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I222199&tree=MP

>

> Description: Name: Eunice Leigh Toms

> Died 14 March 1910, Bombala, NSW. NSW BDM 703/1910

> Buried: Bombala Cemetery, NSW. Exact location not know.

>

> Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


TOMS

On 19/04/2015 15:58, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Toms,  Iris J. (I222200)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I222200&tree=MP

 

Description: Born: 18 Feb 1910 Bombala, NSW. NSW BDM 1802/1910 Never married

Died: 11 Apr 2000

Buried: Bombala Cemetery, NSW  Church of England Section, Row J, Grave 2

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


MACINNIS

From: Iain Macinnis

Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2015 3:17 PM

Subject: FROM IAIN MACINNIS: JINDABYNE 1910

Dear Ian,

 

I recently came across these sketches amongst some family papers.  They were done in 1910 by Snr Const AD Macinnis, then stationed at Jindabyne.

 

Of any use to the site?  If not, please simply delete.

 

Kind regards,  Iain Macinnis

 

Jindabyne.  Court Room, 1910.jpg

Jindabyne.  Police Cottage - front, 1910.jpg Jindabyne. 

Police Cottage - out-building, 1910.jpg Jindabyne. 

Police Cottage - rear, 1910.jpg Jindabyne.

Sitting Room of Police Cottage, 1910.jpg

 

Thanks Iain,

I have added your sketches to the Jindabyne page under the Towns heading.

Regards,  Ian

 


WALTHARM 

From: carmel carroll
Sent: Thursday, 16 April 2015 3:25 PM
Subject: Hi

Hullo Ian,

 

I will be travelling through the Monaro area next week & hope you may be able to help me. 

 

Among my ancestors I have an ex convict, George Waltham; around 1840/2, he lists himself as an overseer for Thomas Willmot, at Nimatta Bell at Moniera. Thomas Willmot`s  usual address was at Bowral/Berrima.

 

By any chance do you have any idea, as to the whereabouts of Thomas Willmot`s  property? I have not been able to track anything down. I do realise that information for this early time may be very scarce. I do enjoy your Web site, it is a mighty job, you & your volunteers are to be commended.

 

I do have a copy of George Waltham`s Will, 1843, it was not registered, but was made out in the correct manner, with witnesses & executers. Georges death is not registered either, but we think he must have died around this time. Thomas Willmot & Charles Throsby were the Executors.

Many thanks,  Carmel Carroll

Hi Carmel, 

We have no information of any property owned or leased by a Thomas Willmot.  However, there was a property in the name of Charles Throsby.  You can see the detail we have at … http://www.monaropioneers.com/runs.htm 

I suggest you contact the Bombala Historical Society to see if their local knowledge can be of more help.  

Regards,  Ian

Hullo Ian, many thanks for your response, this is of great interest also, but will have to be at a later date.

 

The 3 children of George Waltham would have been aged 10 to 13i sh when he died. The 2 boys turned up 10 years later in Moama, & had been a puzzle as to how & why. Recently we discovered that Charles Throsby & another fellow drove stock from the Berrima area, to Moira Station north of Moama in the 1840`s.

 

We are surmising Charles possibly took the lads with him, these boys had inherited land in Liverpool & breeding mares, Charles being their guardian. Thomas Waltham at age 27, paid 3.5 thousand pounds for the Inn in Moama. He is on your newspaper database, mentioned in the obit of Mr Maiden.

 

Ian , many thanks for your interest,  Carmel Carroll

 


CALDWELL

From: jules connors
Sent: 2015-04-16 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: Monaro Pioneer's Newsletter - March 2015

Hi Ian,

Subject John Caldwell 

I would like to add the following information 

Descendants of John Caldwell

Parents 

John CALDWELL

1771 – 1872

 

·         Janet Sussanah RENFREW

1780 – 1881

 

Parents of John 1771

Robert Caldwell

1734 – 1803

Margaret Barker

1739 – 

 

Julie

Thank you Julie,

Regards,  Ian

 


WHITBREAD

On 15/04/2015 16:57, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Whitbread,  Doris Irene (I11123)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11123&tree=MP

 

Description: Born: 1905, Eden, NSW. NSW BDM 12869/1905

Died: 28 April 1961, Burwood, NSW. NSW BDM 10184/1961 Probate granted 13 September 1961. NSW State Records Probate Packet series 4-529199

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


RIXON

On 15/04/2015 16:34, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Rixon,  Amelia Jane (I11650)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11650&tree=MP

 

Description: Probate granted 4 December 1957. NSW State Records.

Probate packet series 4-469613

 

Bombala Times Friday August 30, 1957

 

OBITUARY

Mrs. A. J. Brownlie

 

As previously briefly mentioned, the death occurred in the Western Suburbs Hospital, Sydney, on 12th August, of Mrs. Amelia Jane Brownlie, a well known and respected Bombala resident after a long illness. The late Mrs. Brownlie was 73 years of age and had lived in the district practically all her life. She spent her early life in the Rockton locality, being a member of the Rixon family.

Her husband, the late Mr. James Brownlie, who predeceased her some twenty years ago, acquired a grazing property at Rosemeath, near Bombala, where they lived for many years. Eventually she made her home in town.  She was the mother of a family of five sons and seven

daughters- Les, Pat, Bruce, Keith and Kevin, Ethel (Mrs. Berry, Lakemba), Elsie (Mrs. J. Bicket, Bombala), Alice (Mrs. Stone, Bankstown), Clare (Mrs. Olive, Caringbah), Jean (Mrs. Alcorn, Auburn), Doll and Gladys-all of whom survive and have the sympathy of district friends. An unassuming kindly woman, with keen home and garden interests, she was held in high regard amongst her friends. Her remains were interred in the Church of England portion of the Rookwood cemetery.

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


ELTON

On 15/04/2015 16:26, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Elton,  Violet Alice (I11048)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11048&tree=MP

 

Description: Divorce: 1941

The Sydney Morning Herald Wednesday 31 October 1941 DIVORCE COURT The following decrees have been made :  Mr. Justice Roper.   Decree nisi: .......

Violet Brownlie v Alexander Brownlie; ...

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


WILLIAMS

On 15/04/2015 15:29, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Williams,  Amelia (I11046)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I11046&tree=MP

 

Description: Died: 23 September 1946 NSW BDM 17196/1946

Buried: Towamba Cemetery [Mrs Amelia Elton: on a wooden cross with a picket fence surrounding the grave].

Pobate granted 17 January 1947. NSW State Archives

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


ROBERSON

From: Greta Jones

Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 12:17 PM

Subject: Ian Alfred Roberson

Hi Ian,

Thought it would be nice to add Ian to WW2 list.

Ian Alfred Roberson is the son of Alfred and Rachel ID MP42482.

Ian was commonly known as Tommy.

Other children are:-

Kathleen who married Gordon Wallace. Deceased Myra who married Stan Weston deceased Inez deceased Ray married Una McGufficke Am working on more detail for this family.

Regards Greta Jones  

Thank you Greta,

Regards,  Ian

 


WALLACE

From: Greta Jones
Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 11:45 AM
Subject: WW2

Hi Ian,

Am forwarding (2) photos of Cecil Henry Wallace ID 1345078, perhaps you would like to add one or both to his history.

Many thanks Greta Jones

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


MACDONALDS

From: Ron Dunbar
Sent: Monday, 13 April 2015 12:16 AM
Subject: Could you assist

 

Have Found the probable location of Patrick Macdonalds farm (Jingera)

his daughter was the Alice Macdonald who married John Thomas Keevil, later known as Thomas John Sutherland (see the information I supplied previously).  This has answered a lot of Questions to which I needed answers before finishing off the manuscript of the history of Thomas John Sutherland tentatively called “The Bushrangers Apprentice”.  I would appreciate any info on the Jingera myths and legends that might help colour the story, I already know of the story that James Vennel may have been one of the unidentified members of the Clarke gang on the Araluen gold coach job and the additional story that John Thomas Keevil was a cockatoo for the same job.  If you have the parish map for that time could you give me the reference so that I might locate a copy.  Thomas John Sutherlands farm was just down the road between Anembo and Jerangle.  Hope this might fill out one of your historical holes.

Regards,  Ron Dunbar

Hi Ron,

All the information and documents we have are already available on our website.

Regards,  Ian

 


KELLY

From: Terry O'Hanlon
Sent: Sunday, 12 April 2015 9:39 PM
Subject: William Kelly

 

Hi Ian,

I am a new member of the website. I have some info about one of the many early Kelly families around Ironmungy.

Currently the Monaro Pioneers web site indicates info for the husband of Roseanna Murphy as William C Kelly . I have death birth and marriage certificates that seem to indicate the info is incorrect. My info indicates William John Kelly born Ryde 17 May 1838 and died 15 Sept 1925. (NSW 1925/13270 attached) is Roseanna’s correct husband. His death cert shows Rosanna and all the children as well as 2 later wives after she died.

I also have other info on the family.

1.    I am confident Catherine Kelly, William J’s daughter  (my great grandmother) died 1930 Sydney and

2.    I believe there is a good chance William J may possibly be a nephew of Mary Anne Rolfe (Kelly) , Joseph Rolfe’s wife, hence William J working on the Rolfe station in the 1860’s and possibly dying on a Rolfe property at Liverpool in 1925.

 

Some of this info has been cross checked  with Cheryl May and Jan Wise if you have contact with them in relation to the Seears family, one of whom married Bridget Kelly (Catherine’s sister).

 

I am interested to get any other info and share what I think I have found.

 

RegardsEdward (Terry) O'Hanlon

Hi Terry,

Thank you for the transcriptions, that certainly resolved a number of loose ends in our database.

Regards,  Ian

 


WINTER

On 12/04/2015 23:01, Warwick McCall wrote:

Proposed Change: Winter,  Edmund John (I207215)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:   http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I207215&tree=MP

 

Description: LDS have this marriage, but WA??

 

Name: Edmund John Winter

Birth Date:     1874

Age:   23

Spouse's Name:       Sarah Ann Mcdonald

Spouse's Birth Date: 1876

Spouse's Age:          21

Event Date:   01 May 1897

Event Place:   St. Patrick'S, Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia

Father's Name:        William Winter

Mother's Name:       Maria Rolfe

Spouse's Father's Name:     Coll Mcdonald

Spouse's Mother's Name:    Ellen Connelly

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01696-8 , System Origin: Australia , GS Film number: 1363695 ,

 

Warwick McCall

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


SUMMERRELL

From: robyn summerrell
Sent: Sunday, 12 April 2015 6:49 PM
Subject: Summerrell family

Dear Sir

 

I have just had a look at my family tree, Donald Edward Summerrell spelt with a double r.

 

I need to ask where you got the information on his 1st wife Colleen Helen Maritn.

 

You have me listed as their daughter? and Male?

 

My birth certificate has me registered as the daughter of his 2nd Wife Dorothy June Ward


I'am sure you can understand my confusion and surprise.

 

Also, do you have or can you help me get information on my family.

 

I have some of my grandparents, Stephen Edward and Vera Loiusa Broadby but nothing of my Father or his siblings.

 

Or of my Mother, whomever she may be?

 

Your help would be appreciated
Sincerely,  Robyn Summerrell
Hi Robyn,

Thank you for the information, I will correct our records.

The information we have on the Summer(r)ell family has been provided to us and there are some contact details on the Summerell page in our Pioneers Index.

Regards,  Ian

 


FISHER

On 12/04/2015 17:25, Warwick McCall wrote:

Proposed Change: Fisher,  Robert (I7940)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I7940&tree=MP

 

Description: GUNNING.

(From our Correspondent.)

Obituary.-After a long and painful illness, Mr. Robert Fisher of Lerida Creek passed away on Saturday, the 3rd October. Great sympathy is felt for Mrs. Fisher and family.

Goulburn Evening Penny Post, Tuesday 6 October 1885 page 4

 

Warwick McCall

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


SPARROW

On 12/04/2015 17:11, Kevin Wallace wrote:

Proposed Change: Sparrow,  George Joseph (I181717)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I181717&tree=MP

 

Description: Goulburn Herald (NSW: 1881-1907) Thursday, 07 May 1885.

Page 2

 

Sudden Death. - News was received in town on Monday of the death, suddenly, on the previous evening, of Mr. George Sparrow of Felled Timber. Deceased was a very old and deservedly respected resident of the district.

 

Kevin Wallace

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


SOUTHWELL/SHUMACK

From: Bevan Stone
Sent: Friday, 10 April 2015 4:04 PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers database

Dear Ian

 

the attached might assist you in completing the info on the children of William Southwell & Eliza nee Shumack - who appear in Southwell, Shumack & Read sections

 

if you have any questions please ask – similarly if you want any reference material re what is in the attachment

 

use only what you want

 

Kind regards, Bevan Stone

Thank you Bevan,

Regards,  Ian

 


STURGEON

From: pam sturgeon
Sent: Friday, 10 April 2015 3:47 PM
Subject: Updates to database

Hi Ian
 
I can't find our little Sonny's headstone in the photos for Christchurch Cemetery. He has his own little stone between his parents Andrew and Louisa Grace Sturgeon and is memorialised on her stone. He is in the database as MP170269/I170269. B 1881-D 1885 Andrew Sturgeon, scalded, aged 3yrs.
 
Can you also update Florence Sturgeon with death information please. Her ID is MP170270 /I170270. These are the correct dates as she visited Orange before her death.
 
According to Ryerson - Burn Florence death notice was SMH 10 Oct 1974, death 4 October 1974, late of Hurstville.
NSW Archives estate papers - Series 4-788513 Title: Florence Burn - Date of Death 04/10/1974, Granted on 21/02/1975
NSW BDM - 17365/1974 Burn Florence Father Andrew Mother Grace
 
Florence Sturgeon's husband Lindsay Burn was an engineer in Thailand during WW2. His death is recorded as 14 November 1844. There is an excellent website devoted to Sumatran Internees. Briefly - Burn Lindsay Muntok. Banka Island, Sumatra, Engineer, Civilian deaths WW2, Draughtsman Mining Engineer, Takuapa Valley Tin Dredging, Thailand. Aged 48 in 1942. Palembank, Sumantra internee. Wife Florence evacuated to Sydney, Australia. Died in captivity 14 Nov 1944 (58) Muntock per Sumatra Internees
 
Lindsay Burn also served in WW1, recording his birth place as Edinburgh, Scotland. His parents show as being George and Eliza Nisbet BURN on internment records for WW2.
 
Roy Sturgeon born 1889 ID MP170272/I170272 I have being born 9 July 1989, scan of baptism attached, Christchurch Cooma. Sorry about the quality.
 
Keep up the wonderful work, and effort,
Cheers,  Pam

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


TOZER

On 10/04/2015 11:03, John Tozer wrote:

Hi,

 

I have to correct some advice that I gave some time ago and that was given to me (and acknowledged at the time as)   anecdotal family history  . Like a lot of  anecdotal family history , it is now clear that it is incorrect/can t possibly be true!

 

In the first line of the entry for Ada Jane Tozer in the Thomas Tozer Pioneer Entry below, I stated that  Ada Jane Tozer was, according to anecdotal family history, raised with her sisters Eleanor and Georgina, by her grandparents Austen and Ellen Tritten after their mother Mary Ann died in 1891.

 

Since the said grandparents had died   Austen Tritten (sometimes

Tritton) on 12 August 1874 and Ellen on 22 January 1887   by the time ADA Jane s mother died on 23 September 1891, she and Austen can t have raised the three girls. Accordingly, can you please delete the first line/sentence in the  Other Events  entry for Ada Jane. At this time, the rest of the entry remains correct. If I get to the bottom of who raised who and when with the three girls and it is based on more reliable information, I will let you know.

 

Regards,  John Tozer

Hi John,

Thanks for letting us know.

Regards,  Ian

 


RAMSEY/KERRISON 

From: marjorie mcgovern
Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:54 PM
Subject: Ramsey/Kerrison update
 

Hello 

The recent inclusion of Thomas Henry RAMSEY and Maud KERRISON’s grave at Bega Cemetery should also include his half-sister, Mary Catherine Beatrice Hilda RAMSEY (all three are buried together).

Marjorie McGovern (their grand-daughter)

Hi Marjorie,

We have not received an image of the headstone for Mary Catherine Beatrice Hilda Ramsey as yet?  Are you able to supply same?

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian 

Please find attached a photo of my grand-parents (and great aunt)’s grave at Bega Cemetery NSW. These are my mother’s parents.  Maud was the daughter of James George KERRISON (b/d Bombala NSW) and Janet Waters BROWNLIE (of Aston Station).   Mary RAMSEY never married and lived with my grand-parents at ‘Glen Alpin’ farm, Candelo NSW. This photo was taken last year after a tidied up.

Marjorie McGovern,  Canberra

Thank you Marjorie,

Regards,  Ian

 


LOVELOCK

From: jx bennett

Sent: 2015-04-09 6:02 AM

Subject: RE:Monaro Pioneer's Newsletter - March 2015

Hello David

Thanks for the latest newsletter. As always I'm amazed at the time and effort you must put into the website, thanks and thanks again.

 

There's a query from shanell asking if she can discover if Ronald Stanley Lovelock was a Yuin tribe member. Shanell could perhaps contact

 

Merrimans Aboriginal Land Council

13 Umbarra Road WALLAGA LAKE 2546

PO Box 13 WALLAGA LAKE NSW 2546

merrima@bigpond.net.au

phone 02 4473 7288

fax 02 4473 7478

 

Also, I have birth/marriage/death certificates produced by a transcription agent. Do you want copies of these for my various families? Also newspaper clippings through Trove? You must be snowed under with work so please let me know the best way to forward info to you. I keep promising my Jackson family and must get stuck into it. It's so voluminous I'll send it in pieces I think.

 

By the way Joseph Jackson was murdered by William Curtin as the website notes. Curtin was found guilty and hanged but the rope broke and he survived the hanging. He subsequently got a royal pardon and his sentence was revised to life on Norfolk Island. He was pardoned and lived on in NSW. I'll dig out my info on him and pass it on if it's of interest.

 

Thanks,  Jan Bennett

 

Thanks for the information Jan,  I have passed this on to Shannell.

Ian would be most interested in the certificates, etc that you have.

Regards,  David Knox

Newsletter Editor,  Monaro Pioneers

Hi Jan,

I would be very grateful to receive copies of your transcription certificates to add to our database please.

I would also be happy to receive any newspaper transcriptions as well.

Regards,  Ian

 


WILKINS

On 09/04/2015 02:05, ann murray burke wrote:

Proposed Change: Wilkins,  Edgar Courtney (I67333)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I67333&tree=MP

 

Description: Edgar was Edgar Claude Wilkins - NOT Edgar Courtney he married Elizabeth Wilhemina Tucker (she was known as Wilma) they had two children Lloyd Claude and Roma Nea.

Elizabeth Wilhemina died 1966 in Victoria Cert No.22600 - her death certificate states she was Elizabeth RYAN I have been unable to find a marriage certificate for this marriage - her 2nd husband/partner was Michael Ryan who was from Ireland and the electoral roll has him down as a Crane Driver.( I spent many a happy sunday with Wilma and Mick going for a drive) Elizabeth Wilhemina was the daughter of Elizabeth Jane Gillard and William Thurston Tucker

 

Edgar's brother John - was John Counrtey Bellamy Wilkins who died in Queensland in 1946 - I have no information on John other than his death certificate shows the above full name for him.

 

ann murray burke

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


ROBINSON

From: Gregory McInnes 

Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:30 PM

Subject: Proposed Change: Robinson, Creswell Keith (I10705)

 

Proposed Change: Robinson,  Creswell Keith (I10705)

Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I10705&tree=MP

 

Description: Died: Woden Valley Hospital, Canberra, ACT

Funeral: 15 Sept 1976, Bega, NSW

 

Additional children:

Christine Robinson

Susan Robinson

Robert Robinson

 

Gregory McInnes

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


ELTON

From: john adamson
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 9:35 PM
Subject: Ref MP 87881

 

Just noticed that my Aunt Etta Elton has been named as Henrietta in the Elton & Ingram records.  We are not sure if she was baptised Henrietta but she was registered at birth as Etta. Her year of death was 2004.

 

Thank you  Kay Adamson

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


BROWN/OLIVER

From: Rosemary Stewart-Beardsley
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 9:34 AM
Subject: WW1 photos.

Dear Ian,

 

There appears to be some confusion about photographs of two Berridale WW1 soldiers. I have attached both. They are both from the Snowy River Shire's Memorial Book to the men from the Shire who were killed in the Boer, 1st and 2nd World Wars. Your site has a photo of Negus Brown in WW1 album which, in the Shire album is shown as James Cecil Oliver. Are you able to shed any light on the problem? 

 

Regards,  Rosemary Beardsley

Hi Rosemary,

The AWM shows the same image for Negus Brown as we do ….

 

https://www.awm.gov.au/search/all/?query=negus+brown&op=Search&format=list&section%5B%5D=events&section%5B%5D=units&section%5B%5D=places&section%5B%5D=articles&section%5B%5D=books&section%5B%5D=people&section%5B%5D=collections&submit=

 

Perhaps the photos were accidentally transcribed in the memorial book you have?

Regards,  Ian

Dear Ian,

 

It would seem as if that is the case. The Snowy River Shire's Memorial Book was commissioned in the early 1960s and I suspect that either the man who collected all the photos and information made a mistake or the publishers did. Either way, it clearly wasn't proof read very well (if at all) and it has taken 52 years for anyone to spot the mistake!!

 

Regards,  Rosemary 

 


WINNER

From: Frances Ingram
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 7:58 PM
Subject: Re.: Winner

Hi Ian 

Now, this is cheery red!!  There is no way of contacting her, but the book is available from the Delegate Progress Association phone:  02 6458 8388.  I think it's about $25. 

I'd be grateful if you could pass on this information to her. 

Regards,  Frances Ingram  "WINNER

Thank you Frances,

Regards,  Ian

 

………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

From: Amy Winner
Sent: Thursday, 2 April 2015 10:15 AM
Subject: Book - The Snowy Mountain Men WW1

Good morning,

At a friend’s dinner this week I was perusing her bookshelf (as I often do at other people’s homes to see what I may have missed reading) and I happily came across a book about the Snowy Mountain Men who were involved in the recruitment march for WW1.

My ancestor Arthur Winner was a part of this march and appears in this book. I was quite taken aback that all of these years later that we might be friends unknowing that our ancestors marched to enlist together, how very amazing!

My friend said that the book was recently launched in Quenbeyan and that if I contacted the Bombala Historical Society that I may be able to purchase a copy.

Can you assist?"

 


BROWNING/McRAE

From: Kevin B
Sent: 2015-04-08 7:31 PM
Subject: ACTIONED RE: Monaro Pioneer's Newsletter - March 2015

Hello David,

 

Well done on the great work you are doing.

 

I saw the email from Sylvia Bowman included in the latest Newsletter:

BROWNING/McRAE

From: Sylvia Bowman
Sent: 2015-03-17 4:48 PM
Subject: McRae's in the Monaro area attn. Kevin Browning

 

And the fact you had no luck sending an email to me. You must have my old email address at cybercentral. Could you please update your record to xxxxxxxxxxxxxx and also advise Sylvia of the new address.  By the way I am not a gun nut as my email address may suggest. I am actually compiling a record of all the heritage artillery pieces in Australia. 

 

My contact numbers are xx xxxx xxxx or xxxx xxx xxx. Please pass these to Sylvia as well.

 

Regards,  Kevin Browning

 


WARREN

From: Alan Patterson
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Warren

Ian,

 

Attached is small gedcom with details of descendants of Thomas Warren from Queanbeyan, Braidwood and Nimmitabel.

 

I noticed a recent entry from Katrina with similar details.

 

Mine includes some updates. eg. his daughter Edith Ann Warren married Alfred Richard Bohlmann who changed hi name to BOWMAN. His children carried the new surname. 

 

Best wishes,   Alan Patterson

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian

 


KEENAN

On 08/04/2015 15:36, Michelle wrote:

> Proposed Change: Keenan,  Dorothy M. (I137989)

> Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers

> Link:  http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I137989&tree=MP

>

> Description: Hi Ian

> Dorothy was born 1 July 1910, Tumut, and died as Dorothy Mary Lovering

> in Macksville NSW 8 October 2008.

> She married Horace Joseph Lovering in 1929  Marrickville.

> Horace was born 28 Jan 1908 at Narrandera, (son of Joseph John

> Lovering & Rebecca Ellen Garner) and died at Macksville NSW 23 May

> 1992.

> Both have memorial plaques at Woronora Cemetery.

> 7 children

> Three deceased

> 1.Alan Joseph 5 feb 1940-7 Jul 2005

> 2.Millicent Emma died 1946.

> 3. Alison Doreen died 1952.

>

> Michelle

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


SNOW

From: ryanbrisi
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:07 PM
Subject: Please Add Photo to MP 117474 Charles SNOW

Ian,

Please add him too.

Thanks Rae.

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


ROBINSON

From: Phillip Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:13 AM
Subject: Robinson

Hi Ian,

Because my grandfather Mark Robinson, had a limited education and could only just read but not spell when he (Mark Robinson) registered the birth of his first born son (our father) the name written by the Registrar was Philip Allen Mark Robinson But all of his life our Father always spelt his name PHILLIP ALAN MARK ROBINSON and always signed his name ALAN (see attached photo)  

Our sister Rosalind Lillian Robinson was born and died on the 19 Dec 1938  and not 1939, see the enclosed document, you will also note the spelling of our father's name on this document (PHILLIP ALAN MARK ROBINSON)

Hope this clears the mater of his name up

Phill Robinson

Thank you Phill,

Regards,  Ian

 


DOOLAN

From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:04 AM
Subject: Headstone for Ernest James Doolan

Hi David and Ian,

 

Please find attached headstone for Ernest James Doolan.

 

Ernest was buried on the 6th of Feb 1991 at:

 

Macquarie Park Cemetery & Crematorium NSW

Loc: Roman Catholic Lawn; Section: Block 15; Position: 0732

 

Regards,  Bruce

Thanks,

Regards,  Ian

 


ROBERTS/DOOLAN

From: Bruce Stubbs
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2015 9:54 AM
Subject: Headstones for Maude Isboel Roberts and Martin Patrick Doolan

Hi David and Ian,

 

Please find attached headstones for Maude Isobel Roberts and Martin Patrick Doolan

 

Maude was buried on 1 Nov 1971 at:

 

Macquarie Park Cemetery & Crematorium NSW

Loc: VAUGHAN CATHOLIC LAWN; Section: Row 32; Position: 0050

 

 

Martin died on 28th Feb 1966 at St Leonards NSW and was buried on the 3rd March 1966 at:

 

Macquarie Park Cemetery & Crematorium NSW

Loc: VAUGHAN CATHOLIC LAWN; Section: Row 32; Position: 0050

 

Regards, Bruce

Thank you Bruce,

Regards,  Ian

 


GATEHOUSE

From: ROBERTSON, Susan
Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2015 2:25 PM
Subject: gatehouse family [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi

I am wanting to get in contact with an Allan Gatehouse who went to school in Cooma in the 1960’s.  There are no Gatehouses listed in the white pages for Cooma and the email address for the contributor on the page failed.

 

Are you able to provide me with any information on how I might contact any of the family members of the Gatehouses?

 

Look forward to hearing from you.  Susan Robertgson

Hi Susan,

We can put your request in our next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers can help you.

You could also try our Facebook Page  ..  https://www.facebook.com/groups/893648944008345/

Regards,  Ian

 

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