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Monaro Pioneers Newsletter
2015
Number 9
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
FRENCH FAMILY GATHERING
This coming November marks the 175th anniversary of the arrival of Daniel French
and Isabella Whitton and their two children, William and Daniel, at Brungle
Station.
“Many family members know that the family came from Lanark Scotland,” said
archivist and historian Robert French, ‘but few know of family origins that go
back to Yorkshire in England and, before that, to Normandy.”
To mark the anniversary a family gathering has been organised at:
All Saints Anglican Church Hall, Tumut on Saturday 28 November.
Mr French will give a talk on “The Norman, English & Scottish Origins of the
French Family of Brungle” at 11 am, to be repeated at 2pm.
For catering and other purposes, booking is advisable.
“Family members, and others who wish to attend, should indicate which lecture
time would suit them” French said. “Tea and coffee and sandwiches will be
available for purchase before and after each session, a time for family members
to mingle.”
Those wishing to attend should rsvp to:
or
write to: 4 Ducros Street, Petersham NSW 2049
or
telephone: (02) 9568 1995 or 0427 105 675
Robert French
Mr French, a history graduate and a foundation member of the Australian Society
of Archivists, was, before retirement, the Director of the Sydney office of the
National Archives of Australia. He is also a former Deputy Archivist at the
World Bank in Washington DC. In retirement he has spent time researching and
writing history, including his own family history, and as an active member of
several local history societies in Sydney.
MONARO PIONEERS now on Facebook
The
Monaro Pioneers website now has its own Facebook page which is accessible at the
following URL:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/893648944008345/
CURRENT CORRESPONDENCE:
From:
Terry
Sent: 6 October, 2015 2:57 PM
Subject: Newsletter 2014 Number 9
Hi Ian
In the newsletter on the 21st Aug 2014 Jon & Tracey McColgan asked about Emily
Wilkie being aboriginal. Also, Linda Stapleton on the 23rd Aug 2014.
I would like to contact them if possible as I think I can help. Please pass on
my contact details.
Regards, Terry
Hi Terry,
Thank you for the offer, the email addresses for those folks are …
'Jon & Tracy McColgan' xxxxxxxxxxx
'Linda Stapleton' xxxxxxxxxxxx
Regards, Ian
TREVANION
On 06/10/2015 11:09, Jane Zyznik wrote:
Proposed Change: Trevanion, Charles Henry (I51022)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I51022&tree=MP
Description: Charles Henry Trevanion is my GGGrandfather (my GGrandfather was
George, my grandfather Arthur Raymond Leigh Trevanion.
On his Marriage Certificate to Sarah Groves on 2 Jul 1863, Charles states that
he is 29 years old & was born at sea. I therefore use 1834 as his birth year,
although I have not been able to trace a Birth Certificate or registration. He
also states that his parents were Charles Henry Trevanion (an Officer in the
British Army) & Lydia Francis. I have not been able to verify this information.
Jane Zyznik
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
GRANT
From:
Ian Harvey
Sent: 2015-10-05 9:59 AM
Subject: Grant Family Reunion
Hi Folks,
Just returned from the Grant Family Reunion in Wyndham, what an excellent event.
I had a great time talking to the descendants of Henry Grant and Janet Campbell
and collecting lots of new information to update the database. If you get
the chance to participate in any similar events, I thoroughly recommend it.
The countryside was just spectacular and all the dams are full, let's hope it
stays that way.
Just when I think there is light at the end of the Monaro Pioneers tunnel a
whole lot of new opportunities present themselves. Looks like I will still
be busy into the new year.
Regards, Ian Harvey
From:
Ian Harvey
Sent: 2015-10-06 9:57 AM
Subject: New information regarding the lineage of Henry Grant b1814
Linlithgow, Scotland
Hi Folks,
As you have no doubt gathered by now, I attended the Grant Family Reunion on the
long weekend in Wyndham. A few weeks prior I received an email from Joy
Franklin advising me that her sister Barbara had done a lot of research on the
Grant family origins in Scotland and had established a different lineage for
Robert Grant, the father of Henry Senior. I was doubtful at first without
seeing any supporting documentation but suggested to Joy that we meet and have a
chat at the Reunion. This we did and Joy very kindly loaned me her
Sister's substantial documentation to support her conclusions.
I have examined the material and contained within was a copy of the death
register entry for Robert Grant, husband of Catherine Ormiston, son of Henry
Grant and Anne Hardie. Robert having died February 5th, 1866 at Burgh
Abbey, Paisley, Scotland. This evidence was clear and indisputable (a copy
of which is now attached to Robert Grant's record in the MP database for you all
to see). I have used the material provided to validate as best I could the
findings of Joy's Sister Barbara and the new lineage is now in the MP database
for you to use and evaluate.
Also revealed was a new sister for Henry Senior, Catherine Grant who married
John Begg and whose son Henry Grant Begg is buried in the Wyndham Cemetery.
Again, this new information and all the connections is now viewable in the MP
database.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Regards, Ian Harvey
COOPER
From:
Dora Johnson-Smith
Sent: 4 October, 2015 11:51 AM
Subject: World War 2 Enlistees
Hi Ian
Could you please add my husbands father Harold Thomas Cooper to the WW2
Enlistees.
Photo is attached.
Kind Regards, Dora Johnson-Smith
His details are as follows:
CORPORAL
HAROLD THOMAS COOPER
NX121281
|
SERVICE |
AUSTRALIAN ARMY |
|
DATE OF BIRTH |
5 JANUARY 1921 |
|
PLACE OF BIRTH |
WOOLLAHRA, NSW |
|
DATE OF
ENLISTMENT |
29 AUGUST 1942 |
|
LOCALITY ON
ENLISTMENT |
MORUYA, NSW |
|
PLACE OF
ENLISTMENT |
INGLEBURN, NSW |
|
NEXT OF KIN |
COOPER, ARTHUR |
|
DATE OF
DISCHARGE |
7 JUNE 1946 |
|
POSTING AT
DISCHARGE |
1 AUST PW CONTACT UNIT |
|
ADDITIONAL
SERVICE NUMBERS |
N250197 |
Hi Dora,
Yes we have him listed too. No photo unfortunately.
Regards, Ian
COOPER
From:
Dora Johnson-Smith
Sent: 4 October, 2015 11:34 AM
Subject: The 1st AIF Participants
Hi Ian
Could you add my husbands grandfather Arthur Thomas Cooper to the WWI 1st AIF
Participants please.
His details are as follows:
ARTHUR THOMAS
COOPER
Service
Number: 1578
Rank: Corporal
Roll title: 2
Australian Remount Unit (November 1915)
Conflict: First
World War, 1914-1918
Date of
embarkation: 10
November 1915
Place of
embarkation: Sydney
Ship
embarked on: HMAT
Orsova A67
Photo is attched.
Kind Regards, Dora Johnson-Smith
Hi Dora,
Arthur Thomas Cooper is already listed among the WW1 Enlistees on our site but
we had no photo of him so your photo is much appreciated.
Regards, Ian
BYRNES
From: Susan
Sent: 1 October, 2015 9:57 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Byrnes, Martin (I148464)
Proposed Change: Byrnes, Martin (I148464)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I148464&tree=MP
Description: Martin died 5-12-1889 in Leichhardt, Sydney.
The BDM is 2758/1889.
Martin drowned 10 days before his wedding, aged 20 years.
Susan
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
COPPIN
On 30/09/2015 13:57, Susan wrote:
Proposed Change: Coppin, Arthur George (I164434)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I164434&tree=MP
Description: Arthur married Emily Jennings in Queensland, 1938/C3019
Susan
Thanks,
Ian
ABBEY
On 30/09/2015 17:35, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Abbey, Alexander (I233435)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I233435&tree=MP
Description: might be another child too:
Name Frances Abbey
Gender Female
Birth Date 06 Oct 1851
Birthplace New South Wales, Australia
Father's Name Alexander Abbey
Mother's Name Catherine Tully
Citing this Record
"Australia Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981," database, FamilySearch
(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT8S-3P5
: accessed 30
September 2015), Alexander Abbey in entry for Frances Abbey, ; citing
New South Wales, Australia; FHL microfilm 1,238,833.
Warwick
Hi Warwick,
Well spotted, she must have died in infancy but I am unable to find any
reference. You might have detected I recently began adding the images of
the convict records I can find to the database. Just another way to add
"richness" to the research process.
Regards, Ian
MAHONEY
From:
Rhubee Neale
Sent: 27 September, 2015 10:38 PM
Subject: update contact info
Hi! Ian,
It’s been a few years, I just want to update my contact details.
I changed my name legally to Rhubee Neale. My sister Letty has passed away
however I am still looking for family for my sister Linda Mahoney nee Gibson.
Thank you for you help.
Rhubee Neale
Hi Rhubee,
If your name appears on a webpage on the Monaro Pioneers site, you need to tell
me which one and I will change it.
Regards, Ian
HILL/DONNELY
From:
fiona grove
Sent: Monday, 15 December 2014 10:26 PM
Subject: honeysuckle farm.
Dear Sir ,
i went
to a family reunion a few years ago and was told a lot of information about my
paternal grandmother. Her married name was Freda Hill but her maiden was
Freda Donnely. Dad said she came from Pambula. He said she lived on a farm
called Honeysuckle Farm.
Dad is dead now and was dead when i went to the family reunion. What i heard at
the reunion , and some of this may not be true or i have remembered it wrong,.
was that a relative of mine roberts? or robertson and a man named haore ? or
hore? bought the righs to some cattle that had escaped from the government
pastures and had gone wild. Haore and Roberts rounded up the cattle and took
them to Pambula where they had Honeysuckle Farm.
Honeysuckle farm ended up a model farm and my cousin had a newspaper article
where the cattle from Honeysuckle Farm had won prizes at the Bacchus Marsh,
Heidelberg shows. in maybe 1901? This is just what i remember from the reunion.
What i
remember from childhood was that grandma Hill had married pop and they lived in
Woonona Wollongong. When i was young, one Sunday morning everyone was excited
because "Aunty Sylvie " was coming. She was some relative of my maternal
grandmother,( who had died before i was born). Aunty Silvie was a child or
grandchild of the original Roberts? robrtson from Honeysuckle. ( must have
been grandchild of daughter of Roberts family?) .
Do you know these names or events and if so could you send me any informastion
about this . Pop Hill's name was Anthony Hill and the Hills were farmers out
Cootamundra way. The family story goes that pop went to a dance at Pambula and
saw Freda Donnely and straght away said "im going to marry her." they had
10 living children whom my father was the 3rd oldest, Leo Patrick Hill.
I hope you can help me put some pieces of the jigsaw together .
Thank you, Fiona Grove.(Hill)
Hi Fiona,
"Honeysuckle
Farm" is located on the road between Pambula and Wyndham. Freda was
Frederica Angela Donelly, the daughter of Frederick William Donelly and Alice
Robertson. Alice Robertson was the Gdaughter of John Robinson and Martha
Hoare. "Syvie" was Silvetta Donelly, sister to Freda and who married
Adolphus William Henry Lewis and moved to Brisbane, Queensland.
You will find details of these families in our
database, searchable via our website.
Regards,
Ian
dear
ian, do you think the story of the first fleet cattle being the original
honeysuckle farm cows is true. ? thank you fiona grove.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/16807532?zoomLevel=0.
this is the web site i found it mentioned in.
On
Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 10:23 PM, fiona grove <fjgrove8@gmail.com>
wrote:
dear Ian, i have only just found this reply . i usually use hotmail and dint
even know to look for an answer. thank you for your reply.. it sorts some
things. i found an article in the sydney Mail 1903 that was writing about
honeysuckle . it said the cows from the first fleet were rounded up by john
robinson and john hoare but later in the article it was talking about charlie
robertson owning honeysuclkle farm. if john robinson and charley robertson
related ??? this is confusing. thank you for your reply, fiona grove , ps freda
donelly married anthony hill. and had 10 children and ended up in woonona near
wollongong.
Hi Fiona,
I don't know the accuracy of the story but see no reason to doubt it.
You can see the interconnections between the families by using the MP database.
This email will appear in the next newsletter and that may bring forth comment
from our readers to help you.
Regards, Ian
BLISS
On 29/09/2015 08:03, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Bliss, James Stephen (I234804)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I234804&tree=MP
Description: Mr. James Stephen Bliss
The gentleman who was responsible for establishing the name of Bliss in Junee
and district, Mr. James Stephen Bliss, passed away in Junee during Friday night.
He was 78 years of age.
Mr. Bliss was born at Yass on 15th April, 1870, and came to Junee about
Mr. Bliss was married twice and by the first marriage there are three daughters
Mrs. Aitcheson, of Melbourne; Mrs. A. McRoberts, of Narandera; and Mrs. Doug
Clark, of Narandera.
By the second marriage he is mourned by his widow and the following sons and
daughters: Mrs. T. Mooney, of Lisgar Street, Junee; Harold Bliss (Narandera),
Mervyn Bliss (Sydney), Mrs. O'Rourke (Sydney), Bernie Bliss (Junee), and Miss
Marie Bliss (Sydney). Amongst the brothers and sisters who remain are Mrs. A.
Hall (Narandera) and Mr. Farrell Bliss (Yass).
The funeral look place at Junee on Saturday morning.('Junee Southern Cross.')
Narandera Argus and Riverina Advertiser, Tuesday 14 December 1948 page 2
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BRUCE
On 25/09/2015 16:24, Alison Baker wrote:
Proposed Change: Bruce, Eileen Mary D. (I198951)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I198951&tree=MP
Description: Eileen Bruce (known as Dot, and my grandmother) married Leslie
Thomas Rice on 4 April 1925. Dot died on 8 October 1978 at Glenfield.
Alison Baker
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
LENANE
On 25/09/2015 16:20, Alison Baker wrote:
Proposed Change: Lenane, Mary (I84785)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I84785&tree=MP
Description: The Lennane (Linnane) families William & Bridget with children
Elizabeth, Mary and Fergus (Ferdinande)along with William's brother John Lennane
(Linnane) and his wife Mary with children Patrick, Margaret and Elizabeth all
arrived on the ship "Elizabeth" on 16 April 1850.
Alison Baker
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
LENNANE
On 25/09/2015 16:17, Alison Baker wrote:
Proposed Change: Lennane, William (I202014)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I202014&tree=MP
Description: William Lennane's wife was Bridget Lennane (Conroy).
They had eight children, Elizabeth (1840-1912); Mary (1844-1915) who married
Thomas Roach ; Fergus (1849-1908) ; John (1851-1896); Patrick (1854-1892); Ellen
(1856-); Celia (1858-) and William (1860-1931).
William died 19 August 1860 and Bridget died 27 August 1892
Alison Baker
Thank you Alison,
That information cleared up a loose end.
Regards, Ian
HAYES
On 25/09/2015 15:57, Alison Baker wrote:
Proposed Change: Hayes, Mary Jane (I187727)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I187727&tree=MP
Description: Mary Jane Bruce (Hayes) died on 7 May 1872 of typhoid, and only had
three children. Any children listed born after 1872 aren't the offspring
of William Bruce and Mary Jane Hayes.
Alison Baker
Thank you for letting us know,
Regards, Ian
MARGULES
On 24/09/2015 12:19, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Margules, Dallas Lestrange (I122081)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I122081&tree=MP
Description: WEDDING BELLS.
MARGULES-WEBB.
A VERY pretty wedding was celebrated at the residence of the bride's parents,
"Lindley," Wyangle, by the Rev. C. E. Burgess, on Wednesday, June 26, when
Dallas L., second son of Mr and Mrs Louis Margules, of Tomorroma, was married to
Selina Rose (Lennie), second daughter of Mr and Mrs John Whiteman Webb. The
bride, who was given away by her father, looked charming in a dress of white
silk trimmed with lace and true lovers' knots. She wore the usual wreath and
veil, and carried a bouquet of white roses and asparagus fern.
The bridesmaid, Miss Charlotte Margules, wore a white silk frock, with hat to
match, and carried a bouquet of roses and daphne. Mr S. Margules was best man.
The Wedding Hymn was sung by cousins of the bride, Misses Maud, Ciss, Annie and
Ruby Webb.
After the ceremony a well-prepared wedding breakfast was partaken of, the centre
of the festive board being adorned with a handsome three-decker wedding cake,
made by the bride's mother. The following toasts were honored : Bride and
Bridegroom,' proposed by the rev. chairman, the bridegroom making a happy
response; 'The Bridesmaid,' by the bridegroom, Mr S. Margules responding; 'The
Bride's Parents,' by Mr F. Margules, responded to by Mr Webb, who proposed ' The
Bridegroom's Parents,' Mr L. Margules responding and proposing the health of '
The Rev. Chairman and the Ladies.' The singing of the National Anthem concluded
proceedings.
Mr and Mrs Margules then left amid the good wishes of their many friends, per
motor, to train for Sydney, where the honeymoon was spent.
The bride's travelling dress was a navy serge coat frock, with black velvet hat.
The Tumut Advocate and Farmers and Settlers' Adviser, Tuesday 9 July
1918
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
GILLIGAN/BURKE
From: Sandra Hope
Sent: 2015-09-23 12:13 PM
Subject: Michael Gilligan/Mary Burke Family mp271014
Hi David
I have been researching the Michael Gilligan/ Mary Burke family for a time, as
they were my Grandmothers Grand parents.
I have information of two more children of Michael Gilligan Snr / Mary Burke
from Transcriptions and Marriage cert’s, also the
Would you like this information, if so please let me know.
Regards, Sandra Hope
Hi Sandra,
Thank you for the offer. Can you please forward to Ian so he can add it to the
database.
Regards, David Knox
From: Lloyd Eastgate
Sent: 23 September, 2015 5:03 PM
Subject: Thank you
Hi Ian,
I just want to say thanks for all the work that this group does. I am new at
this and was tediously trying to find my wife's ancestors and by happy chance I
came across the Monaro website, and there was all her Grand parents and Great
Parents. Plus a whole lot of information about them that would have taken a lot
of patience and effort to compile, something that would have taken me literally
years at the pace I have been going.
Thank you so very much again
Lloyd=
Hi Lloyd,
We are delighted that you have found our website useful, perhaps you can also
add some information that may be helpful to others.
Regards, Ian
COMAN
On 21/09/2015 16:18, Janene Collins wrote:
Proposed Change: Coman, Ellen Laura (I76671)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I76671&tree=MP
Description: Ellen Coman & Vincent Collins had more descendants than
shown:
Add:
Cyril died 31 July 1965
Leo (Tom) Collins DOB: 30 Aug 1916 Died: 16 July 1981 Nita Collins DOB:10 June
1918 Died: Yes; Buried Candelo NSW Joan Collins DOB: 7 June 1920 Died: 2013;
Buried North Sydney NSW Phillip (Pat) Collins DOB: 6 July 1922 Died: 27 April
1964 Elizabeth Collins DOB: 7 March 1923 Died: Yes Buried Goulburn NSW John
(Joe) Collins DOB: 6 Nov 1924 Died: 15 Dec 1982 Lismore NSW; Buried Lismore NSW
Sheila Collins DOB: 10 Aug 1926 Died: Yes Buried Goulburn NSW Mary Collins Died
at Birth
Janene Collins
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
AHKIN/COLLINS
On 21/09/2015 15:54, Janene Collins wrote:
Proposed Change: Ahkin, R.J. (I148013)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I148013&tree=MP
Description: Roma June Ahkin DOB 1 June 1928 in Bega NSW; Died 11 December 2013
in Brisbane Qld.
Married to John Joseph Collins; they had eight children:
David John Collins
Richard Anthony
Felicity Jane
Janene Mary
Mark Joseph
Anthony McKee
Louise Prudence
Justin Damien Collins
Janene Collins
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
COLLINS
On 21/09/2015 15:48, Janene Collins wrote:
Proposed Change: Collins, Jean Joseph (I148017)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I148017&tree=MP
Description: This entry appears to be my father; his name was John Joseph
Collins (known as Joe. DOB 6 Nov 1924. He married Roma June Ahkin in Bega NSW
Janene Collins
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
CALDWELL
On 20/09/2015 19:01, Kerry Donaghy wrote:
Proposed Change: Caldwell, Thomas H. W. (I50499)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I50499&tree=MP
Description: Name: Caldwell, Thomas Henry Wallace
DOB: 18 July 1892
Death: 1969 - Brunswick, Victoria (regn. 9313)
Married: Bresnan, Eileen Alice-1917-Victoria (regn. 5611)
Military: S/No. 5662 RAN 1916-1926
Kerry Donaghy
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
BRIDLE
On 20/09/2015 05:49, Tricia Moon wrote:
Proposed Change: Bridle, Daphne Jean (I357827)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I357827&tree=MP
Description: Daphne Jean Moon died in Foster Vic not Forster NSW. The date is
correct but not the place. I am her daughter in law.
Thanks, Tricia Moon
Thanks for letting us know,
Regards, Ian
TURK
From: Warwick
Sent: 18 September, 2015 7:55 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Turk, Sarah Benn (I17457)
Proposed Change: Turk, Sarah Benn (I17457)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I17457&tree=MP
Description: Name Sarah Turk
Event Type Christening
Event Date 22 Dec 1811
Event Place Hartfield, Hartfield, Sussex, England
Gender Female
Father's Name Joseph Turk
Mother's Name Elizabeth Turk
Citing this Record
"England, Sussex, Parish Registers, 1538-1910," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KG8K-WWY
: accessed 18 September 2015), Sarah Turk, Christening, Hartfield, Hartfield,
Sussex, England, 22 Dec 1811; citing 00747, West Sussex County Record Office,
Chichester; FHL microfilm 1,067,264.
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BROWN
From: Warwick
Sent: 18 September, 2015 7:34 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Brown, Sarah (I17430)
Proposed Change: Brown, Sarah (I17430)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I17430&tree=MP
Description: Name Sarah Brown
Gender Female
Christening Date 27 Jun 1841
Christening Place Narellan, New South Wales,
Australia
Birth Date 20 Apr 1841
Father's Name Thomas Brown
Mother's Name Sarah
Citing this Record
"Australia Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTC6-R5W
: accessed 18 September 2015), Thomas Brown in entry for Sarah Brown, 27 Jun
1841; citing ; FHL microfilm 993,953.
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BROWN
From: Warwick
Sent: 18 September, 2015 7:31 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Brown, Henry (I17769)
Proposed Change: Brown, Henry (I17769)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I17769&tree=MP
Description: Birth/Christening from LDS
Name Henry Brown
Gender Male
Christening Date 24 Oct 1855
Christening Place ST. CLEMENT, YASS, NEW SOUTH
WALES, AUSTRALIA
Birth Date 21 Sep 1855
Birthplace Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Father's Name Thomas Brown
Mother's Name Sarah
Citing this Record
"Australia Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTHK-CHB
: accessed 18 September 2015), Thomas Brown in entry for Henry Brown, 24 Oct
1855; citing Sydney, New South Wales, Australia; FHL microfilm 993,965.
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
HUTCHISON
From: Sam Hutchison
Sent: 16 September, 2015 11:44 AM
Subject: William Hutchison
Hi,
Just interested in information found on this site. I have found information on
William Hutchison saying that he came out to Australia on the 'Undaunted'
1834-35. However the 'ship list' site says that this ship sailed once in 1857.
Maybe I have missed something obvious.
Regards, Sam Hutchison
Hi Sam,
Yes that is the information we have and Ancestry.com shows the Hutchi(n)son
family on the ship "Undaunted" arrived in Sydney February 3rd, 1835 as
unassisted immigrants.
Regards, Ian
GRAHAM
On 16/09/2015 12:21, Lester Hamilton wrote:
Proposed Change: Graham, Catherine Julia (I165753)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I165753&tree=MP
Description: Died 14 June 1870, Long Swamp, Bungendore Buried 16 June 1870, Long
Swamp Parents John Graham & Catherine Brennan
Lester Hamilton
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
DOWLING
On 15/09/2015 21:18, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Dowling, Robert William (I297148)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I297148&tree=MP
Description: GUNNING. (From our Correspondent.) FATAL ACCIDENT.- A sad case
occurred at Dalton on Saturday by which a lad of 12 years of age lost his life.
The name of the lad was Robert William Dowling, son of Mr. Robert Dowling, a
sheep farmer, residing about three miles from Dalton. The youth had, in company
with an aunt, been out for a load of wood for his grandmother, and on the way,
when within sight of his grandmother's house, he fell off the top of the load,
and the wheel of the dray passed down his face, chest and body.
Constable John Mara, seeing the horse and dray going rather rapidly past the
police station, ran out and stopped the horse, and Miss Dowling, the boy's aunt,
said she thought Robert was hurt. The constable ran to where the boy was lying
and found a pool of blood under his head ; the poor lad gave one gasp and
expired. Constable Mara came into Gunning and forwarded a telegram to the
coroner, John Davidson, Esq, to Goulburn This is another instance in favour of a
resident coroner for Gunning, as it is an absurdity for a coroner to reside 30
miles from Gunning, which is the centre of its own district.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post, Tuesday 29 August 1882 page 4
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
PENDERGAST
From:
pates
Sent: 15 September, 2015 7:47 PM
Subject: Peter Joseph William Pendergast
Hello,
My name is Rebecca Pate, and I am the grand daughter of
the above. I would like to point out that I have come across the above person on
your Monaro Pioneer sight as Peter W Pendergast. There is a picture of a
headstone with the entry at the Moonbah cemetery, however I can't remember who's
site he was on (possibly a Powers' site).
I would like to inform you, and if possible ask if a note
can be attached to Peter and the photo of his gravestone, that his correct name
is Peter Joseph William Pendergast, and that the head stone is incorrect - it
shows Peter W J Pendergast. I purchased the headstone as a present for my Mum
(Gwenneth) Barbara Anne Sharp nee Pendergast, in about 2006. She had always
wanted a headstone for her father. Unfortunately somewhere along the way, the
2nd and 3rd letters were transposed, I didn't have the money or time to have it
fixed and it was placed as is.
I possibly have a receipt to verify this, which I may be
able to find if needed to verify this. Also at the time we sought the grave
information from Neen Pendergast and Brian & Doc Pendergast and a third
brother.
Hoping something can be done about this.
Rebecca Pate
Hi Rebecca,
I have changed our database record to show your Grandfather as Peter Joseph
William Pendergast as you requested. The image of his headstone we have
does show his middle initials correctly.
Regards, Ian
Hello Ian,
I'm very sorry, Granddad's name was correct as Peter
William Joseph Pendergast on your data base, I should have double checked what I
wrote, the headstone is definitely incorrect as it caused quite a concern with
my mother (Gwenneth) Barbara Sharp nee Pendergast. I also have rang and double
checked with my Aunt Joyce as to Peter's correct name. My mother passed
away on the 31st August 2015 in Mackay Qld if you would like to add this to your
data base.
Again I am very sorry for the inconvenience.
Rebecca Pate
Hi Rebecca,
No problem, all fixed now.
Regards, Ian
DOWLING
On 15/09/2015 16:41, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Dowling, Robert (I27315)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I27315&tree=MP
Description: DALTON. (From Our Correspondent.) Mr. Robert Dowling, of "Colong,"
Dalton, who died on the 26th instant, at the age of 75 years and 8 months, was a
fine old man, and the district will be the poorer by his death. It was an honour
to know him. He took great interest in all public affairs. He was an Oddfellow,
and was one of the oldest members in the district.
He was the father of a family of 17. His widow and 14 in family survive him
eight daughters and six sons. Of the six sons four are married, and of the eight
daughters six are married. The sons are
The funeral took place on Wednesday at Greendale, The Rev. Mr. Noake, C. of E.
Rector, conducted a short service at the house, and officiated at the graveside,
making a very touching address. The wreaths and floral tributes were beautiful.
The cortege was the longest ever seen here. A large body of Oddfellows marched
to the grave, and Mr. Stone read the burial service of the order.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post, Tuesday 3 August 1920 page 1
BROTHER AND SISTER DIE.
GUNNING, Tuesday.Mr. Robert Dowlling, of Coolong station, Dalton, died last
night, aged 75 years. Deceased, who was a native of the district, was a
successful pastoralist, and took a prominent part in public matters. For six
years he was a council for of the Gunning shire. He leaves a wife and a grown up
family. His sister Mrs James Merriman, of Jerrawa, who went to see him last
night died suddenly this morning, apparently from the shock, aged 78 years.
Young Witness, Friday 30 July 1920
Warwick
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
TINGEY
From:
Gladys Faulkner
Sent: 13 September, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: Charles Lewis Tingey
Hello Ian
I wonder if you would mind forwarding my email address to Christine Darlington
please.
Charles Lewis Tingey was the grandfather of my husband Edward (Peter) Faulkner.
I would like to be in touch with her if she agrees.
Regards, Gladys Faulkner
Hi Gladys,
The email address you need is … xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Regards, Ian
ROBERTS
From:
Marg Roberts
Sent: 10 September, 2015 5:51 PM
Subject: roberts William and Margaret
ROBERTS MP 73895
Maude Elizabeth died 26-8-1982
David llewellyn died 9-9-1987
Ernest William died 24 6 1986
Marg Roberts
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
BROTHERTON
From: Cridland, Nicky
Sent: 10 September, 2015 9:07 AM
Subject: Brotherton Family
Hi Ian
I'm hoping you may be able to help me with some information about the Brotherton
family.
We are trying to organise a retirement gift for a friend and would like to find
a historical parish map showing his direct ancestor's land. I have found a few
maps but think there would be others bearing the Brotherton name.
Can you please tell me, or direct me to who might know, which parish the
majority of Brotherton's lived in? I have looked up Bombala, Maharatta and
Coolumbooka.
Kind regards, Nicky Cridland
Hi Nicky,
I suggest you try the Bombala Historical Society.
https://www.communityheritage.net.au/bombala-history-society
Regards, Ian
McDONALD
From:
Eva St-Amour
Sent: 9 September, 2015 2:48 PM
Subject: genealogy and families
I can’t tell you how happy I am to find your site – let’s not get lost now.
My McDonald family came from Islay to Duntroon in the 1800’s. It is very
difficult to find more detailed information.
so here I am......I hope to learn a lot from your organization.
There were two
brothers
Allan McDonald (married to Flora Patterson) and Alex McDonald (married to ?
McGillivray.) That is....if I am correct.
Now in 2015 – Allen would be my great-great-grand father.
I live near Ottawa and just love genealogy....I am almost 81.....so I don’t have
too much time to get the important information to terminate my research.
As far as I know the brothers lived on Lot 25 – concession 8.....
Please give me hope and answer this note as soon as possible. We have been
to visit the area several times in the past and just love it. It’s so
lovely in the fall.
Bye for now. I will keep my fingers crossed.
Thanks for reading me.
Eva Jeannette MacDonald.....................now Eva St-Amour
Hi Eva,
If by Duntroon you mean the area near Queanbeyan, New South Wales, Australia and
now part of the Australian Capital Territory then sadly we have no information
about Allan McDonald or his brother Alex.
Regards, Ian
AVERY
From: Helen Gray
Sent: 8 September, 2015 12:57 PM
Subject: Birth of Male in 1897 in Adaminaby to Family living there at that time
Hello Ian,
I am researching a Family members movements in the 1860 - 1900 who while living
in Adaminaby gave birth to a son, William Charles Avery. Fathers name
Sextus William Avery, we are assuming was working in Adaminaby and had come from
Colerairne Victoria. The family moved to Goulburn in the last 1890s -
early 1900's.
Could you please help in verifying those movements, and possible in what
occupation Sextus Avery occupied while living there. And did he occupy
residence in the old township?
I would appreciate any help, and would even come to Adaminaby to further my
enquiries. I will be in Cooma this weekend and could come out if the
Historical Society will be open.
Thank you, Helen Gray
Hi Helen,
We do have the family of William Sextus Avery in our database but we don't have
any information on when he arrived in Adaminaby or when he and his family left
for Goulburn. The Electoral rolls for 1930 show William Sextus Avery was a
Police Sergeant in Goulburn so it is quite probable that he was a Policeman
while residing in the Monaro area. If he was a Policeman in Adaminaby, he
certainly would have resided in the Police station in the old township.
We have no connection with any of the local History Societies.
Regards, Ian
RITCHIE
From:
Arlen Frank
Sent: 2015-09-07 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Monaro Pioneers Newsletter
Dear David:
I would like to call the attention of your readers to the "Hugh and Isabella
Ritchie" Public Member Tree I recently uploaded onto Ancestry. One of the three
Ritchie families of County Tyrone, Ireland that emigrated to NSW in the early to
mid 1800s, that of John and Mary Ritchie, settled in Bega. One of their sons,
Robert Ritchie, has already been covered by the Monaro Pioneers website;
the entire family can be found on my tree.
Thanks, Arlen W. Frank
From:
Harry Napthali
Sent: 6 September, 2015 1:51 PM
Subject: Contact wth Terry Irvine
Re the enquiry via the Newsletter from Terry Irvine of 15 August 2015.
Could you please forward me his address, or give him mine. I will then contact
him direct re my book “Tjilbees Travels and History”
Regards,
Harry Napthali
Hi
Harry,
Thanks for responding, the email address you need is … 'Terry
Irvine' <xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Regards, Ian
From:
Ruth
Sent: 5 September, 2015 7:20 PM
Subject: Book Search
Hello Ian.
Firstly, LOVE your newsletter! Can’t imagine how I survived without it.
I am looking for a book entitled:
Queanbeyan Pioneers: First Study by Rex Cross
I have the second study, but the first is proving hard to find. I was
pointed in the direction of the Book Store in Bungendore, but it has since
closed down. My enquiries to second-hand book shops in Queanbeyan and Canberra
have been equally unsuccessful. I am hoping one of your many readers may
have a copy they no longer require that I could purchase or know where I could
find a copy elsewhere.
Keep up the good work.
Regards, Ruth
Hi Ruth,
Thanks for the kind words, your request will be in the next newsletter.
Regards, Ian
FELTIS
From:
linley walker
Sent: 6 September, 2015 11:54 AM
Subject: Contact for Lizzie Leech
Dear Ian, A
person who receives the Monaro Pioneers Newsletter has emailed me to tell me
that Lizzie Leech is looking for information on Minnie Amelia Feltis. I have
some information that I'm happy to share with her. Please pass on my email
address to Lizzie.
Kind regards,
Linley Walker
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
HUTCHISON
On 02/09/2015 16:39,
Linda wrote:
Proposed Change: Hutchison, Annie Florence (I5372)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I5372&tree=MP
Description: Have you got the photo of Annie Florence which was handed around at
the Hutchison reunion if you haven't give me a line
Linda
Hi Linda,
No we don't have a copy of that photo but sure would like one.
Regards, Ian
The photo they handed around was when she was bridesmaid
so its not a real clear picture some people may have already cut it down to the
size that Irene Ramsay sent me I think most of the other pictures are already up
there was just a few other ones that you may already have I will attach them
here for you to have a look at or if any one has ancestry I have them all up on
that site
If they dont come out when I have time on the week end I
will scan seperately again.
Linda
Thank you Linda,
Regards, Ian