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2016 Number 10




From: Kellie Brown
Sent: 2016-11-03 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Monaro Pioneers Newsletter - September


Hello David,

Can you please include an apology from me in the next newsletter.

Due to three recent family deaths I have not been much of a 'helper' for anything on the MP Site.

Every time I make plans to visit the National Library or Archives other issues arise and I get held up.

I apologise to everyone and hope I can get out of this rut soon.


Thank you,



MONARO PIONEERS now on Facebook









On 2016-11-08 22:25, Kate Kennedy wrote:

Proposed Change: McDonald,  Francis (I72209)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I72209&tree=MP

Description: Hello,

Francis McDonald (I72209) is my grandfather.  I can add several pieces of information to his records in the database:

1.  Francis' wife is Rebecca Pauline Reeves, born 8 April 1924 in Birmingham, Manchester, England.
2.  Rebecca's parents were Horace Miles Reeves and Mabel Gertrude Jackson.
3.  Francis and Rebecca were married on 15 October 1949, in Melbourne Victoria.
4.  Rebecca died on 23 December 1997, in Canberra, ACT.
5.  Francis and Rebecca had 4 children - what is the best way to provide their information and details?  Set them out one by one?   I have a file on ancestry.com that has all known information, if that helps.

Kind regards,
Thank you Kate,

If you could send your additional information to me in any format convenient would be most appreciated.

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-07 04:12, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Beven,  John (I20990)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I20990&tree=MP

Description: DEATHS.
BEVEN.-On the 23rd October, John Beven, of Beven Dale Yass, aged 74 years. The deceased arrived in the colony in the year 1823.  
Australian Town and Country Journal,  Saturday 11 November 1876
Bevendale Sold
 The pastoral and agricultural property, Bevandale, which was pioneered 100 years ago by the late Mr. John Bavan, and which has been in the Bevan family ever since, was sold recently to the Dowling Brothers. (Sons of Mr. L. J. Dowling, of "Denbeigh Grove," Bevendale, whose property adjoins.) Of late years the property was leased to Mr. James Medway, who combined extensive farming operations with grazing.
Goulburn Evening Post, Thursday 7 August 1947


Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-07 04:10, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Mahon,  Anne (I20991)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I20991&tree=MP

Description: DIED, AT her residence, Bevendale, Fish River, on 28th January, Mrs. ANN BEVEN, aged 84, relict of the late John Beven, leaving a family of five sons and daughters.
Goulburn Herald, Thursday 14 February 1889


Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-07 04:06, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Selmes,  George Francis (I341104)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I341104&tree=MP

Description: birth, but why name change?

Name:    George James Selmes
Gender:    Male
Christening Date:    21 Jun 1840
Christening Place:    Bungonia, New South Wales, Australia
Birth Date:    29 May 1840
Father's Name:    James Selmes
Mother's Name:    Maria
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13542-9 , System Origin: Australia-EASy , GS Film number: 993953


Regards,  Ian


On 2016-11-07 13:31, Shayne murphy wrote:

Comments: This site has become ridiculous it's so over engineered now.

Shayne murphy
Hi Shayne,

If you find the site too hard to use, you do have the choice not to use it.

Alternatively, we do welcome constructive comments.

Regards,  Ian



From: Louise

Sent: Monday, 7 November 2016 12:39 PM

Subject: Descendant of Francis Thomas & Terence Mahoney

Hello Ian,


My name is Louise.  I am currently researching my family tree.  Due to the overwhelming growth of my tree, I have decided (at this moment) to focus on one branch of the tree. I have decided to follow my maternal grandfather's side Allan Henry Thomas. 


To my wonderful surprise I have found your website and have discovered two branches of my tree and a very interesting part of Australian history.

Whilst I think I don't have a convict history, I do have a squatters background.


How do apply for a membership??  Would like to contact others and do a road trip down to this area.  I grow up in Sydney but have been living in Queensland for 20 years now.


Awaiting your reply, thank you

Louise Madsen

Hi Louise,

Only our Facebook page requires a request to join, but our website and database are free although the database does require a Login username and password for you to access (again free of charge).  Your first attempt to search the database will ask you to register and just follow the prompts from there.


The Facebook page has proven to be a marvellous means of making contact with distant family members.


Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-05 23:10, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: De Smet,  John William (I332849)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I332849&tree=MP

Description: Born: 23 November 1946, Canberra, ACT
Married: Anne Dymphna MURPHY, 1971, Canberra, ACT
Died: 25 July 2012, Canberra, ACT

Gregory McInnes
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-05 23:01, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: De Smet,  Emma M. (I113779)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I113779&tree=MP

Description: Middle name MARIA
Died: 25 May 1929, Rockdale, NSW
Buried: 27 May 1929, Woronora Cemetery, NSW

Gregory McInnes
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-05 22:40, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: De Smet,  Jules Louis Leopold (I113728)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I113728&tree=MP

Description: Add children for Jules & Grace:

1. Patricia Josephine De Smet, b 1916, Balmain, NSW: NSW BDM 1916/15451. Died 12 September 1989, Hawker,ACT. Cremated 18 September 1989, Norwood Park Crematorium, Mitchell, ACT
Married: Ronald Charles Bruce NORCOTT, 5 November 1938, Canberra, ACT. ACT BDM 1938/80054178
Ronald died 1 October 1986, Canberra, ACT. ACT BDM 1986/20020905

2. William De Smet, Born 1917, died 1917, Balmain, NSW. NSW BDM 1917/5365

Gregory McInnes
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-05 22:26, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: De Smet,  Albert Victor (I113725)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I113725&tree=MP

Description: Add child number 9 for Albert & Margaret:

Anthony Vincent De Smet born Canberra, ACT; married
Iris Kathleen O'REILLY

Gregory McInnes
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian 



On 2016-11-04 21:24, Christina Anderson wrote:

Proposed Change: Fisher,  Isaac (I15325)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I15325&tree=MP

Description: Isaac Fisher died 10.7.1887 aged 85
He is buried in the Matthias Church Currawang which is the Church of England/Anglican Church, not the Catholic cemetery
He is in the top right corner with a large stone.
The his brother is in Spring Valley Catholic cemetery.
John Fisher 1857-1939.

Christina Anderson
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-04 13:55, Christina Anderson wrote:

Proposed Change: Mooney,  Patrick Francis (I267279)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I267279&tree=MP

Description: It appears Mooney, Patrick Francis l267279 had 6 children.
Edward Mooney, Leo Mooney, Marie, John, Kathleen and Aileen.
Refer  http://www.monaropioneers.com/nimmitabel/pioneers/mooneya.htm

Cheers,  Christina Anderson
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: Gwen Hubert

Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2016 11:10 AM

Subject: Proposed Change: Family: Wellsmore, Henry Whalan / Roberson, Ivy


Proposed Change: Family: Wellsmore,  Henry Whalan / Roberson,  Ivy

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F1521&tree=MP


Description: 1--Sheila J. Wellsmore is daughter of Henry Whalan Wellsmore and Olive Sheils. She is listed with Henry Whalan Wellsmore and Ivy Roberson's children and Henry and Ivy would have helped rear her because Henry had custody of her.

2--Ida Monica was daughter of Sheila J. Wellsmore born 1926.

Sheila J. Wellsmore died 1926 and Ida Monica was adopted by Linda and William Wheeler. Linda is daughter of Alexander McPhie and Louisa Alice nee Wellsmore. Ida Monica is not listed as adopted by the Wheelers.


Gwen Hubert

Thank you Gwen,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-02 13:19, Jean Law wrote:

Proposed Change: Family: Gillen,  James Alfred / O'Brien,  Frances Agnes
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F117784&tree=MP

Description: Are you interested in further family details for James Alfred Gillen? I am the eldest daughter of his eldest son, James Patrick Gillen DOB 1913 died 1994. I can provide other family information

Jean Law
Hi Jean,

Thank you for the offer, yes we would be very appreciative of any additional information you could provide.

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-11-01 19:18, Cheryl rumble wrote:

Proposed Change: Wood,  William (I93054)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I93054&tree=MP

Description: My grandfather eric thomas was the youngest child of william and emily. His birth cert states he was born in 1899 not 1900.  Perhaps his birth was not registered until 1900 as he was born in december. Also there is no daphne in our family. This seems to be a common mistake that turns up from time to time. From my own research daphne wood was born to william and emily wood however her mothers maiden name was not povey. Thank you   cheryl rumble

Cheryl rumble

Regards,  Ian


Sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 13:19:18 +1100

Subject:   Photo

Hi Michael, 

I was hoping you help with a photo I uncovered. It is apparently the Cooma District Hospital nurses quarters (see attached photo). I have no idea when the photo was taken but am guessing late 1800 – early 1900, and I don’t know where it was.  Would you mind having a look to see if you know anything about it. The photo came from the State Library.  Look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks,  Dale


Hi Ian & David,

Could you please put this in the next newsletter to see if anyone can help Dale?

Regards,  Michael



On 2016-10-25 07:47, Danise Snow nee Staunton wrote:

Proposed Change: Kidd,  John George (I119641)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I119641&tree=MP

Description: Joseph Jardine KIDD aka George James KIDD (my Great Grandfather) is named in a Adelaide Advertiser article Thursday 31 December 1903 Page 6.
He is named as George KIDD and his son Joseph Jardine KIDD is also included in the article so they were living in the Port Adelaide (Queenstown/Alberton) district in 1903.
In his enlistment paperwork he states that he is from Scotland not Ireland.
On Elizabeth Josephine Alice KIDD (my grandmother) birth certificate he is Named Joseph KIDD Joiner 24 years old from Newry Ireland.

This all adds more to the confusion.  His death in SA is registered under both names Joseph Jardine & George James.  

Danise (Danni) Snow nee Staunton
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-25 02:15, Greg Fromyhr wrote:

Proposed Change: Seidel,  Annie (I243618)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I243618&tree=MP

Description: I have Annie Seidel's death certificate.  She was married first to Alfred Phillips then to Thomas Yates. She died in Brisbane on 2 October 1965.  She is my grandmother...cheers...Greg

Greg Fromyhr
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-24 16:33, Pam Greenhalgh wrote:

Proposed Change: Family: Sheffield,  P.A. / Davidson,  Joanne Terry
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F56354&tree=MP

Description: I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to get in contact with a Terry Davidson who supplied information regarding the Kidman'. I am interested in finding out about the book he completed. Any assistances would be greatly appreciated.

Pam Greenhalgh
Hi Pam,

We don't have an email address for Terry unfortunately, however this email will be included in our next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers can help you.

Regards,  Ian



Subject: Re: Wagner family of Cooma

On 2016-10-24 05:43, Leah Day wrote:

Hi Ian


I was wondering if you might be able to assist me with information on Elizabeth Wagner, wife of John Wagner, as described on your website.


This is my husband Ron's great-great-grandmother.


We are curious about the details of her birth in Germany in 1832 – and her death.


Do you know of the person who provided this information and is there a chance that I might make direct contact so that information may be exchanged please?


Should my research be confirmed I will be happy to share this for the Wagner family tree.


Also do you happen to know if there is a map of the Cooma Cemetery indicating those buried there, particularly without a headstone?


We cannot find a headstone for John Wagner.


Kind regards,  Leah Day

Hi Leah,

The information we have on Elizabeth Wagner nee Burch is as supplied to us and we do not have any contact information for that family unfortunately.  This email will be included in the next newsletter and perhaps one of our readers may wish to contact you.

I suggest you contact the Cooma Council about a cemetery map.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian


Thank for your prompt response to my inquiry and offer to include my email in your next newsletter, which I look forward to receiving.


I have been researching various family members through your website and find it a fascinating resource, which you and your team must be congratulated upon, on the hard work that goes into maintaining this wonderful history of the Monaro region.


Kind regards,  Leah



On 2016-10-22 22:32, Glenda Chapman wrote:

Comments (Gorman,  Mary Jane b. 15 Apr 1858 Coolringdon near Cooma, New South Wales d. 18 Jan 1947 Cooma, New South Wales): Thanks for updating this wonderful website.
There is a Death Certificate available for John Jones.
Registration Number 4505/1879.
He was married to Mary Jane Gorman and died on 30 March 1879.
Do you wish me to forward a copy of the certificate?
Hi Glenda,

Thank you for the offer, yes we would very much appreciate a copy of any certificates you can provide.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian,

Thank you for your prompt reply.  Thanks also for putting Fay Richardson in contact with me.  She has been very helpful.


Attached are some certificates and a newspaper article that you may find useful to update the Monaro Pioneers database.


The one relative that I am looking for is proving to be a bit of a "brick wall" - my great grandmother, Mary Ada Skipper.  If you acquire any information on who her real father was I'd very much appreciate it.  She was supposedly born 1 year before John Jones and Mary Ann/Jane? Gorman were married but both John Jones's and Mary Jane's death certificates state that they had 1 son.


Thank you Glenda,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-23 08:54, connie stevens wrote:

Comments (Stevens,  Thomas): Hi I thought you might be interested in this article about Thomas Stevens wife Mary Rattigan
   Orphan Girl Ships to Australia
To Sydney...Compiled initially from article by Trevor McClaughlin, 'Barefoot and Pregnant?Female Orphans who emigrated from Irish Workhouses to Australia, 1848-1850',.....Rattigan Mary 18 Ballymahon, Longford Thomas & Mary (both dead) RC Empl. at Parramatta Hospital. Sydney Morning Herald 12 Feb 1850 p. 2 Mary Rhattacan (?) She was charged with being indolent and impertinent and returned to Barracks. Im. Cor. 49/281 Parramatta; 50/357 sent to Twofold Bay with 7 other girls on the Shamrock 2 May 1850, Eden. Married Thomas Stevens in Boyd Town c. 1852, c. 5 children, died in childbirth 26 May 1861, buried Tree Waterholes, Kiah  . Mrs H Dulihanty, 7 Statham St. Faulconbridge, 2776
It starts like this,: Mary was an orphan from Ballymahon, Longford, Ireland. Her parents both died during the Irish Famine which saw Mary admitted into an Irish Work House (orphanage). Mary then became a forced orphan emigrant who left Plymouth on the 16th of December 1848. She arrived in Sydney on the 4th of April 1849. The ship on which she travelled was called the "Digby". She was 18 years old when she arrived. Upon her arrival to the colony she was indentured to the Parramatta Hospital, NSW. This contract would not see 12 months as according to "the Sydney Morning Herald", 12th of Febuary 1850, she was charged with being "indolent and impertinent". As a result she was sent back to one of the Sydney work houses and a few months later she was sent to Twofold Bay with seven other girls. The ship on which they sailed was called "The Shamrock" and its date of departure from Sydney was the 2nd of May 1850.  She married Thomas Stevens in Boydtown, NSW. She gave birth to five children and died giving birth to the 6th on the 26th of May 1861
This was supplied to Eden Remembers from a person that was related to her. I am descended from Eliza and Thomas.
Regards Connie Stevens
Thank you Connie,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-23 05:14, Lesley Egen wrote:

Hi Ian,

Just looking on Michael Hayes site – he married Ellen ROACH (born Ireland 1827) in 1863, they had 9 births between 1864 and 1882.

Ellen is quoted as dying May 1929 =102 years of age. I found a newspaper report stating her age as 88.

There is a photo of Ellen's grave/headstone on Australian Cemeteries and the inscription also states her age as 88

I wonder if the owner of the Hayes site is able to double check their information, please.

see below...

National Advocate (Bathurst, NSW : 1889 - 1954), Wednesday 8 May 1929, page 1


Mrs. Ellen Hayes, one of the oldest and most widely known residents of Hazelgrove died this morning at the age of 88 years. The deceased is survived by a family of four sons and four daughters to whom general sympathy will be extended. .


Regards,  Lesley E

Thanks Lesley,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-22 14:31, BETTY BOLTON wrote:

Ian and Michael

I am daughter of John Harold Bolton and have been doing family history research in UK and Ireland since my father passed away.  I was always his wish to find out more about his roots.

I have attached my file and research which I can back up with death certificates.  The marriage of Cornelius Boulton and Eliza Connors was sighted at the Catholic Church in Birr – for anyone checking it was not spelled correctly. 

I have tracked his military records (musters)  in the UK from when he joined to serving in Birr, in Ireland, to going to India and then discharge to Australia.

I then picked him up in Australia, working for Captain Brooks at Denham Court, near Campbelltown – he came to Monaro working for the Brooks family.

Have also been researching the Roberson family ancestry prior to Francis coming to Australia.  My father’s mother, Grace Eileen Roberson is a descendant.

I will send that file separately

Please email me if you wish to clarify any further details

Thank you,  Betty Revelant (Bolton)

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-22 13:46, Betty Revelant wrote:

Proposed Change: Bolton,  John (I69773)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I69773&tree=MP

Description: 1.    John Bolton (boulton) born.c. 1773  d.14/4/1860 aged 87, buried  Garsdon, Wiltshire England (died of age & debility in Union Workhouse, Brookenborough) Death certificate states age 87 but 1841 gives age as 60 considering he died of age & debility census age probably correct. Still checking dob for 1781
        +Hannah born.c.1781,  Died. buried 27/4/1824, Garsden,Wilts. (taken from parish records for Garsden)  
second marriage to Mary Bailey b.c.1788 marriage 5/11/1827    )  1841 Census John+Mary working Church Farm, Garsden.
                                (Cornelius there also , soldier 75th Regiment of Foot age 23)
parish records show name as Bolton but military records for Cornelius and Joseph and death certificate for John  as Boulton the Boltons in this area used the spelling Boulton as well.  Originally to set themselves apart from the Lancashire Bolton.

Betty Revelant (Bolton)
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-22 13:34, Betty Revelant wrote:

Proposed Change: Bolton,  John (I42426)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I42426&tree=MP

Description: John Bolton was not born in Scotland 3. John Bolton, born c. 1847, Birr/Tullamore, Ireland, died 12/4/1902, Snowy Plain near Adaminaby, buried Gegedzerick migrated to Australia with parents c. 1853
(place of birth as per Death Certificate)
son of
2. Cornelius Bolton  baptism christened  25/1/1818 (from parish records Garsden,Wilts) died.8/5/1865, Cooma. served 75th Regiment of Foot Ireland/India discharged from Regiment May 1853 to Calcutta for embarkment to Australia
+ Eliza Connors, born. c.1822. Birr, Kings County, Ireland. M. 1846, Birr, Ireland (marriage register sighted)  died.26/9/1866, reg 3913/1866 Cooma as Eliza Pedley. Eliza 2nd marriage to  Joshua Pedley( after Cornelius died) 1866 reg. 1823/1866 Cooma.s

Betty Revelant (Bolton)
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-19 17:12, Colleen Danes wrote:

Proposed Change: Phillips,  Richard William (I124626)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I124626&tree=MP

Description: Richard William Phillips was first married to Phoebe Sims daughter of George Sims and Elizabeth Mullally.  

There children were Mary Ann and John.

Colleen Danes
Thank you, 

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian

You have Richard on the site as being married to Phoebe over in the Sims area but I can’t see where you have them linked.  I am a descendant of Richard and Jane Gumbleton.

Please look again.

Regards,  Ian

Thanks Ian.  I like to see information correct.  You have a very good website.  Here is some more information if you would like to use it.


Samuel’s first wife was Hannah Draper and they were married 24 September 1828  in Trotton, Sussex, England


Samuel and Maria also had 2 girls

Anna born 28 October 1840 in Campbelltown married David Feck on 6 May 1857 in Campbelltown.

Maria born 24 March 1842 Campbelltown married George Trinnick on 3 May 1958 in Campbelltown.  She died 25 August 1881 in Flemington Vic. 


Richard William’s birth was never registered.   I have the birth certificates of his children and I don’t think he really knew when he was born because it works out to be a different year for what it says on the certificates of his age at that time.  When he was employed by the Railway it says that he was born on 5 February 1844 but I have his brother Samuel’s birth certificate and he was born in May that year so that wasn’t correct.


I found some entries from the the Boys Orphan School book at the State Library NSW:  Of all the sites that mention the Phillips family I have never seen a reference to this so I thought you might like to include it.


Brothers Samuel (age 8) and William (age 7) Phillips entered the Orphanage on 5 Feb 1851.  The document under parents name showed Father Dead, Mother Living


Then another entry says: The boys were returned to father by order of the Governor General on 2 Sept 1851.


The Boys Orphan School was an orphanage for the children of convicts when the parents were deceased.  The mother would be Martha Madden.


Martha Madden and Elizabeth Sims (Mullally) came as convicts on the same ship, Samuel may have gone to the Monaro district looking for work as there was a draught on in the Camden district at this time because of the women’s friendship.  As there would have been little communication, Martha may have got sick as she later died from Bronchitis and the two young boys were put into the Orphanage.  The girls and Richard would have been older.  We will never know now.


Regards,  Colleen

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-19 17:12, Colleen Danes wrote:

Proposed Change: Phillips,  Richard William (I124626)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I124626&tree=MP

Description: Richard William Phillips was first married to Phoebe Sims daughter of George Sims and Elizabeth Mullally.  

There children were Mary Ann and John.

Colleen Danes
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-18 23:52, LJ Phillips wrote:

Proposed Change: Murphy,  Reginald Muir (I2721)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I2721&tree=MP

Description: From 'The South Coast Times', 2 June 1949:

Mr R M MURPHY - Mr Reginald Muir Murphy, who collapsed and died suddenly at his home, 4 Todd street, Warrawong, on Saturday, was 47 years of age and had been employed in the Spun Pipe plant at the Steelworks.  The funeral on Monday was to Wollongong C of E cemetery.

LJ Phillips
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-18 23:46, LJ Phillips wrote:

Proposed Change: Murphy,  Eric Erwin (I2720)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I2720&tree=MP

Description: From 'The Sydney Morning Herald', 24 August 1979:

MURPHY, Eric Erwin - August 21, 1979 (suddenly), at Mater Hospital, late of 54 Robinson Street, Chatswood, dearly loved husband of Jessie Isabella Murphy (deceased), always loving father of Peggy (Mrs Matthews), Donald (deceased), Geoffrey (deceased), Desmond and Marie (Mrs Kirkpatrick), fond father-in-law of Rosalie, Lurline and Robert and dearest grandfather and great-grandfather of their children.  Aged 80 years.  Abide with Thee.

The Funeral of the late ERIC ERWIN MURPHY, of 54 Robinson Street, Chatswood, will leave St Andrews Presbyterian Church, 37 Anderson Street, Chatswood, this day (Friday), after a service commencing at 1.45 pm, for the Castlebrook Memorial Gardens, Windsor Road, Rouse Hill.  ALBERT & MEYER.

LJ Phillips
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-18 23:39, LJ Phillips wrote

Proposed Change: Murphy,  Mabel E. E. A. (I2320)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I2320&tree=MP

Description: From 'The Illawarra Mercury', 10 January 1981:

JAMIESON, Mabel - January 9, 1981, at hospital, of 4 Baan Baan Street, Dapto; beloved wife of the late William John Jamieson, dear mother and mother-in-law of Daphne and Jack Harrison (Dapto), Enid and Ray Summerfield (Unanderra), Maurice and Kay (Berkeley), loved Nan of her grandchildren and great-grandchildren, dear sister and sister-in-law of Ivy Jamieson, Ella Phillips, Theo and Peg Murphy, Nina Peel.  Aged 85 years.

The relatives and friends of the family of the late Mabel Jamieson of 4 Baan Baan Street, Dapto, are invited to attend the funeral service of their beloved mother, to be held in the Chapel, Wollongong Crematorium, on Monday, at 1.30 pm.  By request no flowers. H PARSONS, Wollongong.

LJ Phillips
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-18 23:30, LJ Phillips wrote:

Proposed Change: Murphy,  Albert Frederick (I2723)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I2723&tree=MP

Description: From 'The Manaro Mercury', 2 January 1914:

Mr Albert Murphy, of Glenbrook, Cooma, aged 42 years, died in the Cooma District Hospital on 29th December from pneumonia, after an illness of 11 days. The deceased was born at Jindabyne and leaves a wife and six children, the youngest being four years.  Deceased had been working for a considerable time at Glenbrook, and was highly esteemed by all classes.  The sympathy of the district is extended to the friends and relations in their bereavement.  The funeral took place at the Mittagong cemetery on Tuesday afternoon, and was largely attended.

LJ Phillips
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian 



On 2016-10-18 01:10, Bernard and Kath Dobson wrote:

Dear Ian, firstly thank you for the Eden /Monaro site, it’s been a great help. I was hoping you may have a record of those present when David Joseph O'Rourke drowned on 11/02 / 1923 in the Threadbo River. A report mentions he tried to save Eileen Deegan and Lucy O’Rourke. My mother, Mable Roland ,was raised with a Lucy O’Rourke, the natural daughter of Ann Elizabeth O’Rourke, who was a sister to the drowned man. My mother was born in 1908 and, at the age of 3 weeks was placed in Ann O’Rourke’s care, and my mother was to remain with Ann and Lucy until she married my father, Tom Walker,  in 1937. Mum told us very little of her early days so I was delighted to find so much information about the O’Rourke family on your site. Now I’m wondering if my mother was present when her ‘uncle ‘ David drowned, she’d have been about 15, and if the Lucy mentioned was actually Ann’s daughter, she’d have been about 18. Thank you again, I would be most grateful for any information, sincerely, Kathleen Dobson,( nee Walker.)


Kathleen Dobson.

Hi Kathleen,

The only information we have is available on our website.  You could try Trove on the NLA site to see if there is any more detailed newspaper accounts.

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-18 00:25, Michael Giddings wrote:

Proposed Change: Giddings,  Victor Raymond William H. (I165629)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I165629&tree=MP

Description: Victor died at his home at 195 Capper St Tumut on the 21/09/1996
Cassie died at Tumut district hospital on the 1/11/1994

Michael Giddings
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



From: clarkekn

Sent: 18 October, 2016 9:03 AM

Subject: Emailing: Baptism record for Charles Wright 3, Burial record for Charles 2 and Mary, IMG_0001, Wrights on Grevllle's 1872


         Hi Ian,

                   Thanks for your prompt reply.

                   As stated I am looking into the history of Bobundara which has to include the Wright family as a Charles Wright squatted there. In attempting to find out more of this man and his origin didn't yield much, but there were a few hints that he may have come From Sutton Forest. While googling around I did find a man of the same name at Sutton Forest and the Berrima Historical Society. So I made contact with a Max Rogers Research Officer, at that society and asked him. What Max did is above and beyond the call of duty in answering my query, some of which is attached.

                   It seems that there are three Charles in this story.

Charles(1) arrived in Sydney as a convict, served his time, and was a constable at Parramatta and received a land grant at Sutton Forest arriving there with four sons John, William, Charles(2) and one not named(possibly


                   Charles1 and his Wife died in 1842 and are buried at Sutton Forest and their son, Charles2 became the squatter at Bobundara.

                   William married and had a family of three. One not named on your web site. This was a son who was also named Charles(3) who was baptised at Sutton Forest, and this family also finished up at Bobundarah/Rocklodge.

                   This explains why the Greville's 1872 post office directory lists a Charles Wright as a selector on Myalla in that year, when Charles(2) died nine years earlier and his widow listed as the squatter. It must be Charles the 3rd son Of William and Mary.

                   I hope some of this makes sense to you (the attachments verify most of it), and that it adds to your web site.

                   In the past I have worked at Bobundara, and was puzzled as to why a cemetery exists there, in the middle of nowhere. On a recent excursion to Bobundara organised by Richard Brown for the two local historical societies I learned that there had been a town there and thought that there must be a story here, and started looking into it. It has snowballed somewhat and I have fair bit of stuff assembled. Is that the sort of thing that might be of interest to you?

                             Norm Clarke. 

Hi Norm,

Thank you, we welcome any new information you can provide.

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-17 11:06, LJ Phillips wrote:

Proposed Change: Turnbull,  Hilda Euphemia (I356422)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I356422&tree=MP

Description: From 'The Canberra Times', 16 August 1978:

SMITH, Hilda August 12th at Allambee Nursing Home.  Formerly of Hood Place, Watson.  Widow of the late Frederick Smith and loved mother of Cathleen.

The relatives and friends of the late Mrs Hilda Smith are respectfully informed that a Graveside Service will be held in the Church of England section of the Canberra Cemetery at 2 pm Friday, August 18th.  M H O'ROURKE FUNERALS.

From 'The Canberra Times', 24 August 1978:

SMITH The funeral of Hilda Smith, loved wife of Fred (dec), dearly beloved mother of Catherine, dearest sister of Iona (Wagga), Mary (Mrs Altrip, Canberra), took place at Canberra on August 18, 1978.

LJ Phillips
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-17 11:02, LJ Phillips wrote:

Proposed Change: Turnbull,  Mary Ellen (I356419)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I356419&tree=MP

Description: From 'The Canberra Times', 26 March 1992:

ALTRIP, Mary Ellen Late of Phillip Ave, Downer on March 25, 1992 at Kankinya Nursing Home.  Beloved wife of Frank (dec).  Mother and mother-in-law of Vilma and Fred.  Dearly loved grandmother of Justine, Vanessa and Craig Connors.  Loved great-grandmother of Joshua and Aynsley.  Beloved aunt to all the Turnball Family.  At Rest.

ALTRIP The funeral of Mrs Mary Ellen Altrip will be held in the Chapel of the Norwood Park Crematorium TOMORROW (Friday), 27 March 1992 with a service commencing at 3pm.  Tobln Brothers, Member AFDA.

LJ Phillips
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 15 October 2016 at 21:01, Monaro Pioneers <ian@monaropioneers.com> wrote:

Hello Ann Pickering,

Your genealogy user account has been activated. Password: xxxxxxxxxx

Ian Harvey


From: Ann Pickering
Sent: 16 October, 2016 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: Your genealogy user account has been activated.

Dear Ian


Thank you so much for giving me access to the Monaro Pioneers site.. 


My cousin Helen Boot-Pickering and I are great-grandchildren of Victor Henry Sofala Watt who married Elizabeth Anne Borland who was born in Braidwood as the daughter of Alexander Borland b 1821, and grandchildren of her daughter Elizabeth May Watt (May Pickering) who married William Ernest Pickering. Between us, we are the custodians of the family history records left behind by Helen's father John Pickering and my parents Victor & Maxine Pickering, and we are just beginning to sort and scan them.  


 Your records are really helpful in that they clarify the ancestry of our grandmother and how her forebears came to Australia


 Here are some pieces of information in return. 


1. The death certificate for Annie Watt (nee Elizabeth Anne Borland, 1869)

2. A photo of the Watt family grave at Kojonup WA where Elizabeth Anne Watt, Victor Henry Sofala Watt, Vera Watt  and the ashes of our grandmother Elizabeth May Watt are buried.

3.. The death certificate for Victor Henry Sofala Watt - which says he lived for his first 31 years in NSW then moved to WA where he spent his last 59 years, settling at Cranbrook around 1911 where he and Elizabeth took up a farm which they called 'Braidwood'. 

You will also notice that his son is listed as Alick Victor Watt - not Alex as on your data base. This may make it easier to find his missing date of death 

4. A screenshot suggesting that Alick Victor Watt was buried at Albany WA. This makes sense as according to a 1949 press report about his parent's Diamond wedding anniversary, he took up a farm near his parents family at Cranbrook. 


I look forward to further researching your site to see if I can find out any more about the Braidwood connection in our ancestry and how long it lasted - maybe just till the marriage of Elizabeth Anne Borland? 


Ann Pickering 

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-16 18:37, Kerry Donaghy wrote:

Proposed Change: Russell,  U. (I207118)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I207118&tree=MP

Description: Dulcie Peisley married Michael John Russell at Bankstown in 1960. Michael (Mick) passed away in Sydney on 5 July 2016. Michael's parents were Joseph Alphonsus Russell (12 Nov 1896 - 20 Jan 1990) & Emily Grace Thompson (10 Mar 1898 - 30 Aug 1970).

Kerry Donaghy
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-16 20:45, Ian Wilton wrote:

Proposed Change: Swan,  Raymond George Wesley (I386265)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I386265&tree=MP

Description: married Vera Blanche Filby born 1895, Grenfell, 2810, Australia in 1934 Grenfell, 2810, Australia.

Ian Wilton
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-16 18:05, Ian Wilton wrote:

Proposed Change: McFarland,  M.E.A. (I303878)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I303878&tree=MP

Description: Death : Jul 13 2013, Dalmeny, 2546, Australia
Burial Bermagui, 2546, Australia
James Henry McFarland, Born Dec 23 1877,Ballynamallaght, County Londonderry, Northern Ireland. Death, Jun 17 1959, Hurstville, 2220, Australia
Married Jan 12 1904, Strabane, Northern Ireland
Matilda Moore Born Nov 17 1881, Glenlough, Bond's Glen, Londonderry, Northern Ireland.
Death Jan 10 1945, Keara, Australia

Ian Wilton
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-16 17:25, Ian Wilton wrote:

Proposed Change: Boon,  Florence Violet (I128528)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I128528&tree=MP

Description: Revised place of birth, Stoke Under Ham, Somerset, England

Ian Wilton
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-16 11:13, Peter STRAUSS wrote:

Hello Ian,


I am interested in the family of Hugh and Margret/Margaret McMahon, arrived on United Kingdom in 1841.

I think that the inclusion of "John McMahon b. 25/02/1842. Sydney" may be incorrect.

The NSW BDM Data base lists two John  McMahons born in 1842, both with parents Hugh and Rose, Ref. 2225/1842 V18422225 and 986/1842 V1842986.

In both cases the parents are listed as Hugh and Rose.

Why two listings I am unsure? I found no death of a John McMahon with hugh and either rose or Margret as parents so the second was not a consequence of the first dying.

Bearing in mind that this was before the requirement of compulsory registration.

There were two Hugh McMahons on the United Kingdom arriving in 1841, both from County Fermanagh. The families were Hugh and Margret with daughter Mary Anne, and Hugh and wife Rose.

Would it be possible for me to contact the contributor in order to clarify this please?

Also the only NSW birth that I have found to parents Hugh and Margret is daughter Margret in 1853.

Again the registration requirement may be the reason for the lack of information, although as the family were Catholic I would have anticipated a baptism which should have transmitted into a BDM listing.


Cheers Peter Strauss


Hi Peter,

Sorry, we have no contact information for that family.

I have removed John from the family list.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian,

Thank you for your response both to the McMahon family dilemma and my difficulties logging in.


I am writing a Family History and have spent some today time trying to ensure that the McMahon part is correct.


Below is what I have written today as part of this story which has lead me to omit Joseph as well as John.


"The Monaro Pioneers and the Ancestry records list seven children to Hugh and Margret, Mary Ann born in Ireland and the remaining six born in New South Wales; one child who appears on several lists, John, was not a son of Hugh and Margret but of the other McMahon couple on the "United Kingdom" Hugh and Rose.


I have searched the NSW Births from 1841 to 1863 [Hugh Died in1862] and the only child registered to Hugh and Margret is Margret born in 1853 at Moruya. Of the others I have found deaths for Edward [NSW BDM 2874/1896 Moruya], Ellen [NSW BDM 5704/1912 Glebe] and Thomas [NSW BDM 1809/1915 Cobargo]. The only statements found purporting to connect Joseph to Hugh and Margret are on Ancestry and two have a Scottish Census which in fact name Hugh and Esther McMahon as the parents, three others have no source citation. I have decided to disregard Joseph pending any evidence of his existence in the family.


Compulsory Registration of Births Deaths and Marriages did not commence in NSW until 1856 and all of the children found on Ancestry were born supposedly before that year.


The birth years stated on the Ancestry trees may come from a Family Bible?


I am prepared to say that Margret, born in 1853 had at least two brothers and a sister. Given the era and the fact that the family was Catholic there may have been more."


Cheers Peter Strauss 


Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-16 11:11, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Dixon,  Lucy louise (I189062)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I189062&tree=MP

Description: Death of Centenarian.

The death occurred on Friday last of Mrs. Lucy Weatherstone, of Tamworth, in her 101st year. She was born on August 25, 1837, two months after Queen Victoria ascended the throne, and thus lived during the reign of five sovereigns, says the Northern Daily Leader(Tarmworth). Mrs Weatherstone was a native of Goulburn and resided there until her carriage, when she removed to Braidwood, a village then of only a few houses and one store, that now a fine thriving town. At that centre her husband, the late Mr. John James Weatherstone, conducted a carrying business. Later Mr. and Mrs. Weatherstone resided at Queanbeyan, and then Manly, later going to the north west and settling at Gunnedah, where Mr. Weatherstone was employed at Gunnible station as a wool-classer. He later conducted a butchering business at Boggabri, and then the family moved to Tamworth, where they have resided since, a period of 36 years. Mrs Weatherstone was at one time a certificated nurse and at tended the births of between 200 and 300 Tamworth children. There are four daughters and four sons surviving and 31 grandchildren, 29 great grandchildren, and nine great, great grandchildren.
Gloucester Advocate (NSW : 1905 - 1954), Friday 8 July 1938, page 2


Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-16 06:26, ellen hardcastle wrote:

Proposed Change: Halloran,  Gertrude A. (I188882)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I188882&tree=MP

Description: Gertrude joined the convent as Sister Mary Mercedes and she died in1990

ellen hardcastle
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-14 02:34, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Brogan,  Vincent (I78508)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I78508&tree=MP

Description: At the Goulburn Licensing Court yesterday, before the Licensing Magistrate, Mr. G. R. Williams, approval was granted for the transfer of the license of the Lake Bathurst Hotel, Tarago, from Mr. H. D. Chinnery to Vincent Brogan.
Queanbeyan Age Tue 13 Nov 1923

GOULBURN, Wednesday  
His curiosity aroused by a smell of gunpowder, Mr. J. O'Brien entered the upstair  parlour of the Lake Bathurst Hotel, Tarago, on Sunday evening, and found Vincent Brogan, 43, licensee, lying on the floor, with the top of his head blown off. A double-barrel breech-loading gun was beside the body.
Tea had been served, and O'Brien was searching for Brogan, who was his brother-in-law, when he made the discovery. A cloth belt from a woman's coat and a piece of tweed were found next the weapon. The belt had evidently been used to release the trigger, and the tweed to muffle the sound. None of the inmates heard the explosion. Brogan has left a widow and five young children. He had been licensee of the Lake Bathurst Hotel for two years, and it is stated he had had bad health during late years.
SMH page 10 Thur 23 April 1925


Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-14 02:00, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Goodwin,  Thomas (I180333)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I180333&tree=MP

Description:  BREADALBANE.
(From our Correspondent.)
THE grim destroyer, death, has again visited us, his victim on this occasion being one who had lived all his life in this neighbourhood, Mr. Thomas Goodwin, a resident who was very much respected, and was much esteemed for his straightforward, honest, and upright dealings. He had suffered for some time from a spinal complaint.
He died on Sunday evening, and his remains were followed to their last resting place on Monday by a large number of friends and relatives. The coffin was carried to the grave by a party of the local Oddfellows, and a large number of the members attended the funeral, but, owing to the short notice, the brethren were unable to all appear in regalia. The funeral was a very large one.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post, page 5 Saturday 26March 1898


Regards,  Ian


> On 2016-09-24 02:07, Trent Paterson wrote:
> Subject: Re: Visit to Square Range
> Gday Both,
> My father John is planning a trip through the Monaro District and very
> interested in visiting/experiencing the area of our ancestors. Dad is
> the Great-great grandson of Dougald McDonald, through his son David,
> and Grand-daughter Isabella Ann, so we naturally hold a close
> attachment to the Clan and their heritage.
> I have used the site to research places of importance that may worth
> visiting, but thought you guys might be able to add better insight
> into which locations are of most importance? For example, original
> homesteads, cemetery locations and places of importance for the
> McDonalds.
> Any help would be much appreciated. Also I have further information
> regarding subsequent generations/descendants of Isabella, my
> great-grandmother who sadly I never got the chance to meet.
> Regards,  Trent Paterson
> From: Ian Blyton
> Sent: 2016-10-11 1:39 PM
> Subject: Hi Ian
> Would you please pass on to Trent Paterson the phone number of bill
> McDonald   Nimmitabel  xxxxxxxxxxx he is a must contact for trends
> father on his trip to the Monaro
> Regards,  Ian blyton.

Subject: Re: Visit to Square Range
Date: 13-10-2016 17:03
From: Trent Paterson

Thank you both for your help, It is much appreciated.

As for further information to add to the database, let me know what format this needs to be in. I also have archival photos of Dougald McDonalds children and Isabella Ann's wedding to the daughter of James Hasty Paterson, who strangely enough was a pioneer in the Manning/Great Lakes Region and arrived on the "British King" as did the McDonald clan.
An interesting connection. Find attached a rough photo from my camera of the Wedding. The big bear of a man sitting is David McDonald (MP81169) and the adults to his left are Isabella Ann McDonald (MP85861), William George Paterson (MP72148), Alexander Hugh Hamilton MM (MP85864) and the brides widowed elder sister(his mother) Laura Marcella McDonald (MP85858).

Thanks again for your help,   Trent Paterson

Hi Trent,
I am happy to receive information in any format and scanned images to add to the MP database.
When you say "rough" photo, does that mean you could supply a better quality photo?
Regards,   Ian

Gday Ian,

That photo in in great order and will work on getting a better copy, and others to you. As for further generations of Isabella Ann McDonald, I can give you the next two generations of William Lesley Kelsey Paterson


1.William Lesley Kelsey Paterson (b. 7 Sep 1920 Mosman NSW d. 20 Aug 2001 Kogarah NSW) "8th Division, 2nd AIF. POW on the Thai-Burma Railway) m Beryl Anne Pender (b. 9 Mar 1926 Gunnedah NSW d. 25 Jun 2014 Hawks Nest NSW) 


            2. John William Paterson m Sharon Lynn Denton


                        3. Christopher John Paterson m Sunanta Polmontree


                                    4. Kelsey John Paterson


            2. Trent David Paterson


            2. Jane Louise Paterson m Daniel Demellweek


                        3. Issac Demellweek (male b. 21 Aug 2008 Mackay QLD)

                        3. Xavier Demellweek (male b 10 Jun 2010 Cessnock NSW)

                        3. Tyler Demellweek (male b. 10 Mar 2012 Singleton NSW) 


The only other of Isabella's children to have married and have children was Colin David George Paterson (MP84353). But from all reports there was some falling out and although I know of, and have contact with his descendants, that line is short. 


As for the McDonald/Paterson connection, this is of real interest to me, as two of David McDonald's (Dougald's son) daughters married into this pioneering family from the Manning/Great Lakes region? They came from the same part of Scotland and arrived on the same boat (only several years later). Did the families already know each other? Or was it pure coincident? It really gets me wondering about clan structure, and the impact our people have had on the building of our Nation. At the moment I am reading original diary excerpts from David McDonald which I'm not sure have been published elsewhere? They are not from the Bombala Times, rather "Manuscripts of the late David McDonald". Great reading. If I can help with anything else, feel free to get in touch as we have a lot of memorabilia hanging about.

Regards,  Trent

Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-13 18:26, Lisa Beccaria wrote:

Hi Ian,

I came across your website and wondered if there was any way that yourself or the group could help me out. I have information about my great grandfather Charles James Weatherby who was from Yass and went to WW1 I believe he was a local taxi driver (he married Gladys Ethel Taylor). My grandfather Keith Leslie Weatherby was also born in Yass in on 29th December 1924. My grandmother (Keith’s wife Ursula) had always mentioned to me growing up that she believed that Keith was aboriginal and that it was most likely Gladys Taylor his mother that may have been. Keith as a child grew up in an orphanage after Gladys died, so finding any family history on this is very problematic. I know that this email might be a very long shot, but I thought I would try and if you had any suggestions on where I might be able to find more information out.

Kind regards, Lisa

Hi Lisa,

We do have some information about Charles James Weatherby and his family in our database which you can search via the link on our website home page.

We have no information to indicate any indigenous connection.

Regards,  Ian



From:  marjorie mcgovern

Sent:  Thu, 13 Oct 2016 14:35:51 +1100

Subject:  John Ramsey ID 136173

Some corrections on my g-grandfather’s info.


Family 1     Martha Moorhead

Family 2    Mary Moore


Mary’s son was Edwin Ernest Ramsey (not Edward) d. 25 Feb 1990 Pambula.


Martha had twins    William Walter Ramsey 2/8/1884-27/2/1889 Bega (5 yrs) and

                                 Richard Robert Ramsey 2/8/1884-28/6/1975 Newcastle NSW


John Ere Ramsey (Jack) b. 8 Jan 1876 Wolumla NSW d. 8 Nov 1952 Auckland NZ


Kezia Ramsey b. 24 April 1870 Eden NSW d. 14 July 1957 Newcastle


Marjorie McGovern


Thank you Marjorie,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-11 09:51, Stephen Rowelll wrote:

Proposed Change: Family: Rowell,  Edward Arkle / Burgess,  Catherine Angelina
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F42703&tree=MP

Description: Edward Arkle Rowell had another son Francis Thomas Rowell born 1918 died 2007 in Sydney

Stephen Rowelll
Thank you,

Regards,  Ian



On 2016-10-11 00:05, Fay Richardson wrote:

Hi Ian

In the last newsletter you had a request from Glenda Chapman regarding the birth of Ada Mary Skipper. There is no record of a marriage of Mary Jane Gorman and William Skipper as it seems she was still married to a John Jones who she married in 1877.The record I have regarding John Jones shows he died in 1888 after William Skipper died in 1885.Mary Jane then went on to marry William Alexander Burke in 1891.

If Glenda would like to contact me at the email address you have in your records I would be glad to hear from her.

Regards,  Fay Richardson.

Hi Fay,

Glenda's email address is ...  Glenda Chapman <xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Regards,  Ian


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