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2017 Number 11




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From: John S. Trengove
Sent: 2017-12-03 12:38 PM
Subject: Monaro Database


Dear Monaro Pioneers, Editor/Website Coordinator,


I believe that the following information and attachment compliment the work of Monaro Pioneers, and could be of interest to readers of your Newsletter.  If you see fit, I would be pleased for the Attachment to appear in your Newsletter.


Thanking you, John S. Trengove,  Author 




Second Reunion of Descendants of James Rixon & Amelia Goodwin

20th May 2018, 10am – 4pm

St Matthews Church Parish Centre, Windsor, NSW

All descendants of James & Amelia are invited to gather at Windsor to celebrate 220 years of Rixons in Australia. 


For more details & to indicate your intention to attend please contact Joye Rixon Walsh on joye_walsh@yahoo.com 




From: Kris P
Sent: 2017-10-29 9:49 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Book request


Hi David


In addition to my earlier email I'm also seeking a copy of the Kiandra book: gold fields to ski fields


Kind regards,  Kris Tindale




From: Warren Wagner
Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:42 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Batch, Elizabeth Mary (I44654)


Proposed Change: Batch, Elizabeth Mary (I44654)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I44654&tree=MP


Description: I obtained the wedding certificate for this wedding. It states that Elizabeth 'Batch' (no Mary) married John Watkins Senior (widower) on 22 April 1879 at  Lake Plains Cootalantra  (BDM 2819/1879) with the rites of the Church of England.

Elizabeth is listed as a spinster. John Watkins Snr died 9 April 1884.

I also found a Trove article from Sydney Morning Herald, Sat 17th October 1896 -page 3 (I have a downloaded copy) where  this Elizabeth leaves her estate as a widower to a Mr John Wagner. John Wagner died at Coolringdon in May 1897. Why would she do that ?- Another family tree has unconfirmed details that Elizabeth wagner died on 30 Sep 1996. John Wagner is my forefather, I am a grandson of William Thomas Wagner, William was a child of Charles Henry Wagner & Sarah Pegram.

BDM (NSW-QLD-VIC-SA) have no death records for Elizabeth Wagner in the 1890 to 1900 area, only John Wagner. John Wagner had senility in his later years & was the same age  as John Watkins Senior, perhaps she separated from John Wagner, it is my strong opinion that John Watkins Senior actually married Elizabeth Wagner (nee Burch-sounds like Batch ). Birth certificates of Louis Wagner & his sister Bertha (Martha) Wagner state that Elizabeth was first married in Germany as Elizabeth Burch in about 1855 -in Wurttemberg Germany- just before sailing to Australia. Perhaps back then there was not the need to prove you were a spinster when marrying (or  remarrying )

My other suggestion is that Aston James Watkins did not marry Elizabeth Batch ( as per the details on the wedding certificate ). If anyone has details of Elizabeth Wagner death details I would be pleased to hear from you. I have had searches done at St Patricks Catholic Church in Queanbeyan with no results, nor with the Monaro Cooma Shire Council (Noelene Whiting was extremely helpful ).This is probably why BDM can't find her , I will now start searching for the death details of Elizabeth Watkins. I have created the Wagner Family tree at the My Heritage website -created Oct 2016.  Thank you for your knowledge and wonderful Monaro  Pioneers site, regards,  Warren .  Tel : 0408 210 888.

P.S. I can forward you a download copy of the wedding certificate & a copy of the Trove SMH 1896 probation article of Elizabeth Watkins.


Warren Wagner

Hi Warren,

Thank you for the information, Elizabeth Batch (Burch) may well have used that name to disguise the fact she was still married to John Wagner?  I will change our records to show Elizabeth Wagner nee Burch married John Watkins.  The NSW BDM index shows Elizabeth Watkins died in 1896 Cooma (13240/1896).

Yes please, I would definitely appreciate a copy of the marriage certificate and the trove article

Regards, Ian

Good morning Ian & David,

Thanks for the very quick response to my suggestions.

Please do not amend the entry for the marriage of Elizabeth Batch to Aston James Watkins in 1897 just yet.

After sending you the message yesterday, I read your history of John Watkins Snr & Ann Fraser, I also saw the photo that you have on your site, of their shared headstone, provided by the family members of their daughter Ann Watkins. I would not wish to upset the Watkins Family's precious memories of  John & Ann Watkins.

For whatever reason for marrying , if this is Elizabeth Wagner nee Burch, she would have had John Wagner JUNIOR (Jnr) with her, he being aged about 7 years at the time of the wedding. I realise John Wagner Snr was struggling to make ends meet & to provide, having arrived in Australia from Germany with very little- & with their first child Charles Henry Wagner with them.

As you will see on their wedding cert. BDM 2819/1879:  it shows Elizabeth Batch  & John Watkins SENIOR (Snr) in the presence of the officiating minister (his name appears twice) & ANN WATKINS ( I am assuming this is his daughter).

Neither John or Elizabeth's age are mentioned ( ND: not discussed ?/not divulged? ), John Snr is mentioned as a Free Selector  & a Widower.

Neither John Watkins Snr or Elizabeth Batch signed in their own hand.

I know that they stayed married until John Watkins Snr had his fateful horse injury.

My guess is that the John Wagner mentioned in the SMH Trove Probate article in 1896 is meant to be her son John Wagner Jnr, who would have been about 24 when Elizabeth died at about age 64, he probably cared for her in her later years (John Wagner Jnr did die in Kogarah & must have had a family as the Trove funeral notice for him states so).


Yesterday, I  ordered the death cert.  for Elizabeth Watkins  13240/1896, although it says no Mother or Father name listed for her ( as with all of the other certs. that mention Elizabeth Wagner (nee Burch & also Birch), it may confirm her country of birth & any children she may have had.

I would like to send you a copy of the death cert. when it arrives.

Then, if it turns out to be that Elizabeth Wagner (nee Burch) did sneakily & possibly unlawfully marry John Watkins Snr for comfort & convenience for both,( after a period of separation from John Wagner Snr ) there is still NO NEED to place her with John Watkins Snr  on your group sheet, but it would mean deleting the link with Aston James Watkins. We also know that the John Watkins mentioned is not John Watkins JUNIOR (jnr).

This way , our family has the correct knowledge of the final resting place of our Elizabeth & the Watkins Family won't have their treasured family memories tarnished or damaged.

Not everything has to be listed on the Monaro Pioneers Website.

Finally, I will attach some camera pics of their wedding cert. now  & will send a scanned copy when my scanner is repaired. I will also attach some certs. & articles relating to John Wagner JNR & of his elder sister Bertha ( referred to as Martha in later times ) she was John & Elizabeth Wagner's first born child in Australia, along with the death cert. for John Wagner SNR.

Regards, Warren.




I mentioned in my message, that on the wedding certificate it stated ND for the ages, I think I am wrong. Having read the certificate again just now, the stylising of the W in widower is similar to that in the Age section, so I'm guessing that it is a shortening  of W ithel D (witheld) & the W in Watkins is different because it crosses the T in Watkins.  Calligraphy deciphering is probably best left to someone like you who specialises in antiquated writings in documents.

Cheers, Woz.

Hi Warren,

Thank you for the copies of the certificates and newspaper reports.

I don’t believe that Charles Wagner, son of John and Elizabeth, was called Charles Henry nor do I think he is the one shown on the Death Certificate you provided.  I think Charles Wagner died on the 5th November 1939 in Queanbeyan and is buried in the Queanbeyan Riverside Cemetery.  He certainly could not have married Annie Doncaster in 1893 as he was still having children with Sarah Pegram until 1902 in Cooma.

Regards, Ian



From: Michelle
Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2017 8:49 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Hazelgrove, Edmund Horace (I51762)


Proposed Change: Hazelgrove, Edmund Horace (I51762)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I51762&tree=MP


Description: South Coast Times and Wollongong Argus (NSW : 1900 - 1954) Friday 18 May 1917 p 24 Article


Mr. Edmond Hazelgrove, of Lower Towamba, and Miss Smith, of Burragate, were married at Pambula on Monday week. Rev. Upjohn performing the ceremony.


Cheers,  Michelle

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Michelle
Sent: Friday, 1 December 2017 8:51 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Parker, Edley George (I78641)


Proposed Change: Parker, Edley George (I78641)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I78641&tree=MP




Glen Innes Examiner (NSW : 1908 - 1954) Sat 5 Aug 1933 Page 4



Mr. Hedley George Parker, third son of Mr. W. Parker, Tenterfield, died in the Kyogle Hospital recently, as the result of a very painful accident, when he fell into the steaming pond at the Kyogle Veneering Works. He leaves a widow and four young children. Two of his sisters, Mesdames John and Gordon Gill, reside in Sydney, also a brother, Const. Bert Parker.

A third sister, Miss Bertha Parker, resides with her father at Tenterfield, together with his remaining brothers, Norman, Wilfred, Arthur, Lloyd, Ronald, Walter, Stanley, and Milton Parker. A number of relatives of the deceased reside in the Glen Innes district.


Cheers,  Michelle

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Michelle
Sent: Friday, 1 December 2017 8:18 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Gordon, Martha Ella (I78637)


Proposed Change: Gordon, Martha Ella (I78637)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I78637&tree=MP


Description: Hi Ian,

This newspaper article below actually shows a different date of marriage for Martha Ella Gordon and Edley Parker compared to the one on MP site.


The Kyogle Examiner (NSW : 1912; 1914 - 1915; 1917 - 1954) Tuesday 17 January 1928 p 3 Article


A very pretty wedding was celebrated in St. James Church, Kyogle, December 21st, by the Rev. E. H. Shaw, the contracting parties being Mr. E. Parker, second son of Mr. Wm. Parker and the late Mrs. Parker, of Tenterfield, and Miss Ella Gordon, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. R. Gordon, of Grevillia. Mrs. Shaw presided at the organ and rendered music suit able to the occasion. Mr. Charles Mulvena attended the bridegroom as best man, and Miss Pearl Gordon accompanied her sister as bridesmaid.

The bride, who was tastefully attired in a pretty frock of ivory mariette, trimmed with insertion and lace, also wore the customary wreath and veil, (kindly lent by Mrs. B. Ellis, of Omagh road, Kyogle). Her bouquet was of cream roses and ferns, tied with satin streamers. The bridesmaid was attired in deep cream crepe de chene, with hand-made posies. Her pale blue hat was trimmed with hand-made flowers. After the ceremony the company adjourned to the home of the bride's sister, Mrs. J. V. Slattery, where the reception was held, and at which the customary toasts were honored. Later the happy couple left by car en route to Tenterfield and Toowoomba, where the honeymoon was




Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Nicola Franklin
Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2017 11:37 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Reid, Elizabeth C. (I144754)


Proposed Change: Reid, Elizabeth C. (I144754)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I144754&tree=MP


Description: Hi guys,

This Elizabeth C. Reid is the same person as Elizabeth Annie Clare Reid (Person ID I313208 ). She married Michael Quirk, had 9 children (including my grandmother Harriet Rose b. 1933). Her mother was Mary Prior, b. 1861/2 who had 15 children and died age 59 (I have a portrait of her in 1880, I have her nose <3 but not her children thank goodness).


Please let me know if you need documents etc.


Thank you!


Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Sharon Gould
Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2017 8:09 PM
Subject: Arthur Ray Thompson


Arthur Ray Thompson

BIRTH 24 DEC 1900 • Bombala, New South Wales, Australia

DEATH 14 JAN 1923 • Picton, New South Wales, Australia



24 Dec 1900 • Bombala, New South Wales, Australia

NSW BDM # 1637/1901 THOMPSON ARTHUR R EDWARD MARTHA BOMBALA -- Registered after the new year



14 Jan 1923 • Picton, New South Wales, Australia

Name: Arthur R Thompson Death Date: 1923 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: Edward A Mother's name: Martha J Registration Year: 1923 Registration Place: Picton, New South Wales


 Parish Record.

Head stone  ST. Marks , Picton

Inquest about death.

News paper about Death.


Regards Sharon.

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Warwick
Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2017 1:55 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Walsh, Walter (I282847)


Proposed Change: Walsh, Walter (I282847)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I282847&tree=MP


Description: Believe there is another child here, Samuel Michael Born 7 0ct 1866 Collector. Can't find birth rego as yet.



Samuel Michael Walsh, labourer, of Koorawatha, died on the 15th September at Koorawatha at the age of 46. The deceased was born at Collector, near Goulburn, and was married to Miss Clara Humphries, in 1891, at Goulburn. He leaves a wife and two children.

Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940)

Thu 2 Oct 1913 Page 2


14126/1913 WALSH SAMUEL M WALTER               MARY A YOUNG


Married twice - Clara J. Humphies 1892 Goulburn and Everlyn Maud Norris 1908 Young.  Have headstones of both wives if interested.



Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Warwick
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 6:37 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Brogan, Winifred Catherine (I78503)


Proposed Change: Brogan, Winifred Catherine (I78503)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I78503&tree=MP


Description: Marriage






HARCOURT Winifred Catherine  Death notice      16NOV1965        Death    88 at Hospital    Sydney Morning Herald                17NOV1965       




Regards, Ian



From: Warwick
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 6:14 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Brogan, Lendsley Francis (I78513)


Proposed Change: Brogan, Lendsley Francis (I78513)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I78513&tree=MP


Description: Still born son

BROGAN (nee Edith Eileen Eyles).-November 22, 1914, at their residence, Wimmera, 40 Todman-avenue, Kensington, the wife of Lendesly Francis Brogan-a son (stillborn).

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Sat 5 Dec 1914 Page 12




Regards, Ian




From: Warwick
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Brogan, Lendsley Francis (I78513)


Proposed Change: Brogan, Lendsley Francis (I78513)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I78513&tree=MP


Description: Probable marriage









BROGAN GEORGE JAMES : Service Number - NX144481 : Date of birth - 28 Apr 1916 : Place of birth - SYDNEY NSW : Place of enlistment - BATHURST NSW : Next of Kin - BROGAN LENDSLEY




Regards, Ian



From: Warwick
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 10:27 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Murphy, Ellen (I78448)


Proposed Change: Murphy, Ellen (I78448)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I78448&tree=MP


Description: Death of Old Bunyan Resident


As previously reported, the death of Mrs. Ellen Brogan, of Bunyan, took place on 18th inst., her age being 84 years. Deceased was the widow of the late Mr. James Brogan. The funeral took place at the Rose Valley cemetery, the Rev. Dr. O'Donnell of Adaminaby officiating in the absence of the Very Rev. Dean Norris. The pall bearers were Messrs. F. Rowson, J. Murphy, F. Robinson and W. Power.

The survivors are, daughters, Mesdames M. J. Ashworth, Mascot, and Harcourt, Bunyan ; and sons, Mesdames Bernard of Bunyan, Len and Edward, Queanbeyan, Victor, Annandale, and H. Brogan of Berry. The deceased was born at Collector, and coincidentally died on the 16th anniver sary of her husband's demise.

Wreaths were from : Mr. and Mrs. John Murphy and family, Mr. and Mrs. L. Constance, Misses Marge and Edna Rowson, Mr. and Mrs. T A. Huggett. Miss A. Miners, Harnett family, Homeleigh, Mr. and Mrs. W. Tozer, Rosebrook, Mr. and Mrs. Frank Rowson, Mr. and Mrs. F. J. Robinson, Mr. and Mrs. O. Tozer.

Manaro Mercury, and Cooma and Bombala Advertiser (NSW : 1862 - 1931), Monday 26 October 1931, page 2



Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Sharon Gould.
Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017 9:19 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Bright, Albert Charles (I176895)


Proposed Change: Bright, Albert Charles (I176895)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I176895&tree=MP






Please note that he has to Birth records File Number are the same as you can see.. Charles Is my Great Grand Father.


Charles Albert Thompson


BIRTH ABT. 1 JAN 1875 • Cooma, New South Wales, Australia

DEATH 22 JAN 1952 • Picton, New South Wales, Australia


Name: Charles Albert Thompson

Spouse Name: Elizabeth Ann Lee

Marriage Place: Tasmania

Registration Place: Tasmania

Registration Year: 1906


Elizabeth Ann Lee


BIRTH 20 APR 1890 • Lefroy, Tasmania

DEATH 24 MAR 1970 • Camden, New South Wales, Australia


Regards Sharon Gould

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Bernard Wall
Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017 10:16 AM
Subject: Comments (Leecount, Samuel b. 1840 Nimmitabel, New South Wales d. 2 Feb 1910 Goulburn, New South Wales)


Comments (Leecount, Samuel b. 1840 Nimmitabel, New South Wales d. 2 Feb 1910 Goulburn, New South Wales): Are you able to supply any contact details for this Leecount family? I have a relative listed in this family and would very much like to make contact. Thank you.

Bernie Wall

Hi Bernard,

Sorry, we have no contact information for this family.  I suggest you put your request on our Facebook page.

Regards, Ian



From: Janice Ritchie
Sent: Saturday, 25 November 2017 6:34 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Thompson, Robert Chipp (I187114)


Proposed Change: Thompson, Robert Chipp (I187114)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I187114&tree=MP


Description: I propose that Robert Chipp THOMPSON is NOT the man who married Helen HOLLAND.

Robert Chipp THOMPSON's death certificate mentions only one wife, Jane SEWELL.


I believe Helen married Robert THOMPSON who was born c.1832 and died January 23 1882 at Bunyan near Cooma.

His death notice says he left a wife and 2 children, which matches the children Helen had at the time. I also believe she was pregnant at the time he died.

She married John LECOUNT 2 years later in 1884 under the name HOLLAND.



THOMPSON.— On January 23rd at his residence, Governor's Hill, near Banyan, Mr. Robert Thompson, aged 49 years,

leaving an affectionate wife and two children to mourn their loss.


Published at Cooma Saturday, 4th February, 1882.


Also, Jane SEWELL THOMPSON had another child in 1871. Doesn't make sense that Robert Chipp THOMPSON is the man that Helen married.


Janice Ritchie

Thank you Janice,

Regards, Ian



From: Shirley Ann Sproats
Sent: Monday, 20 November 2017 4:47 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Sproats/Barber


Hello Ian


I meant to reply sooner to the contribution and queries of Gary McKinnon re the above but somehow overlooked until now.


Gary was looking for the birth details of his ancestor, Charlotte Barber and her daughter Ann Elizabeth Sproats – but on a further read he has now found them on the MP site. I believe I supplied that information. I have Charlotte born in Bega on 10 April 1863 and dying at 153 Enmore Rd, Enmore on 30 Aug 1914 with daughter, Ann Elizabeth Sproats born 10 August 1883 at Wapengo near Bega.


Also, it is interesting that Gary too found the article from a memorial service held in the honour of Christopher Sproats that he was a Crimean veteran and had three brothers killed in the Indian mutiny. I have tried to research this “fact” and must get back to it. I have done a lot of research back into England about the Sproats’ ancestors and that is contained in a book I published on the Sproats – I can’t find the burial records for 2 of Christopher’s brothers with a question mark still over a 3rd so at this stage these might be the 3 brothers!   


There is a chapter on Obadiah and Charlotte in the Sproats’ book. Please give Gary my email details.


I have been busy the past couple of years researching and writing a book on the Hergenhan of Bega from which I am descended – a Hergenhan married a Sproats. I have had wonderful research done by a professional in Germany that is incorporated into the book. I am hoping to publish early next year.


Thank you for the ongoing dedication to the MP site – it is simply wonderful.


Best wishes,   Shirley Sproats

Thank you Shirley, I have copied Gary on this email and hope your connection is fruitfull.

Regards, Ian

Hello Shirley (and thank you Ian for Shirley's contact)

When I found the MP site a few months ago I had a lot more information to digest with that of my own. It was a welcome piece of new knowledge and thanks to yourself and other contributors to the site. It filled in a few gaps and taught me a lot about life in those times (eg as a Gold Miner in Hill End where I have been before) and in the  families movements. I have Charlotte and Annie's details now and that was my main mission but discovered all the extras of their ancestors thanks to MP/yourself. I would be pleased if you wanted to share any further Sproats/Barber information. I have been told stories of Obadiah gambling the family house away and leaving Charlotte and the children to fend for themselves. Obadiah went to NZ to work as I have postcards written to Annie by him but not sure why he went there. I think it was after Charlotte had died. Anyhow any new information would be much appreciated.

regards, gary



From: Denise Crook
Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2017 2:37 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Power, Mary Ann (I83036)


Proposed Change: Power, Mary Ann (I83036)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I83036&tree=MP


Description: I've discovered an error in the death of Mary Ann Kingston nee Power


Mary is my great grandmother and I have a copy of her death certificate which states her death as 13th March 1904 and she was buried in Cootamundra  Cemetery on 15th March 1904.

Are you able to rectify?

Denise Crook

Thank you Denise, your request change has been made.

Regards, Ian



From: Michelle
Thursday, 16 November 2017 1:10 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Crabtree, Aubrey Whitworth (I222573)


Proposed Change: Crabtree, Aubrey Whitworth (I222573)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I222573&tree=MP


Description: Hi Ian,

Aubrey's death was registered in Queensland in 1982.

(QLD death index 1982/3141)


Cheers,  Michelle

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Michelle
Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2017 12:56 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Miners, Osborne (I63784)


Proposed Change: Miners, Osborne (I63784)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I63784&tree=MP


Description: Hi Ian,

I note BDM NSW states the christian name as "Osborne" but the death notice and electoral rolls of the day state "Oswald". BDM entries for his marriage and the death of a son, also note "Oswald"

His wife, Enid, passed away 25 June 1990 at Gwynneville NSW aged 69 years.


MINERS Oswald Death notice 02MAY2006 Death 92  late of Gwynneville Illawarra Mercury 03MAY2006

 MINERS, Oswald (Ossie). _ May 2, 2006. Peacefully at a nursing home of Gwynneville. Beloved husband of the late Enid. Loved father and father-in- law of *, * and *, * and *, *and *, *. Dear Pop to his 9 grandchildren and 8 great grandchildren. Loved brother of Grace (deceased), Myrtle (deceased), Lionel (deceased), Ida and their families. Ossie will be sadly missed by his family and friends. Aged 92 years "Gone for a haircut" Relatives and friends are invited to attend Ossie's funeral to be held in The Chapel, Lakeside Memorial Park, Kanahooka Road, Dapto on THURSDAY at 2.00pm. Following the service the funeral will proceed into the adjoining cemetery.


Cheers,  Michelle

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Les
Sent: 2017-11-08 9:47 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Archibald Parker


My name is Les Parker and  looking at my Father’s birth certificate I see that his father was Archibald Parker and was born in Cooma NSW. I would like to see if he is a descendant of the early pioneers

He did move to Walgett where my father was born in 1917. Hope you can steer me in the right direction

Les Parker

Hi Les,

Your father’s family are listed in our database which you are able to search free of charge.

Regards, Ian



From: Leonie Odell
Sent: Monday, 13 November 2017 3:44 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Martin, P.N. (I204902)


Proposed Change: Martin, P.N. (I204902)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I204902&tree=MP


Description: Peter Neville Martin born Bombala 25 July 1937 died 6 August 2017. Married Marlene Ann Ingram (daughter of Florence Kathleen and Arthur Charles John Ingram) 20 December 1958 in Delegate.


Leonie Odell

Thank you Leonie,

The Norwood Park Crematorium website shows he died Aug 25th.

Regards, Ian



From: janielle bryan
Sent: Monday, 13 November 2017 8:52 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Family: Jeffs, William Horace James / Edmonds, Dinah Jane


Proposed Change: Family: Jeffs, William Horace James / Edmonds, Dinah Jane

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/familygroup.php?familyID=F146351&tree=MP


Description: there is a child missing from this family. her name is Phyllis Doreen jeffs. you have her listed but not connected to her family. her mother is Edmonds, Dinah Jane and her father is Jeffs, William Horace James she was born in murrurundi on the 2nd April 1922. she died in queanbeyan 6th june 1991. here is a link to her listing http://www.monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I196477&tree=MP


janielle bryan

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: David Rivers
Sent: Friday, 10 November 2017 3:41 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Rivers, William Edward (I112322)


Proposed Change: Rivers, William Edward (I112322)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I112322&tree=MP


Description: William

Edward Rivers re-married on 30 May, 1929 at Cootamundra to Edith Meale.

They has 3 children -

Nola Anne Rivers - DOB - 18/4/1930  DOD - 13/4/1996;

Keith Richard Rivers - DOB - 21/9/1931  DOD 30/7/2017 and Shirley June Rivers - DOB - 18/6/36  DOD - 18/9/1994.


David Rivers

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: David Rivers
Sent: Friday, 10 November 2017 3:36 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Rivers, Stella (I300743)


Proposed Change: Rivers, Stella (I300743)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I300743&tree=MP


Description: Hi,  Stella Rivers date of death is 3 September, 2000 at Denhams Beach, NSW.


David Rivers

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Frances Ingram
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 9:50 AM
Subject: Delegate Station - the Fleming Reminiscences


Hi Ian

Just to say that I would like to contact Charles Jefferies if possible.  The document he is referring to is what I've called "The Fleming / McKay Reminiscences".  The original data was collected by Henry Edwards of Burnima from Thomas Fleming (not sure of the date, late 19C, I believe, as he was living at my g.g. grandfather's at the time).  It's a (more or less) primary source, and actually very useful in local history as most of the facts are verifiable ... as long as you mentally eliminate the "1833" date.  So, it's not "amendable" as such, being a document in its own right. 

The "1833" date comes from the fact that Fleming arrived at Bukalong with Duncan MacFarlane in that year, so for him the "beginning of the Monaro" = 1833. 

I have, however, found further primary evidence that this date is actually correct for Tombong, and in some ways, Delegate. 

This has left me in a bit of a dilemma, as it's now quite unclear as to who actually established Delegate Station; previously, it was assumed that the information in Claire Schofield's book, Bombala Hub of the Southern Monaro (which she partly took from Fleming) was correct.  However, with this new evidence, it would seem that someone else, probably James Ainslie, was responsible for the first settlement at Delegate, not James MacFarlane, John McLaren & Charles Wright as previously imagined.  I'm not disputing the 1827 - 8 date for the establishment of Delegate, just who actually did the establishing.  It can't have been "MacFarlane, McLaren & Wright" as "Wright" was not in the Colony at the time. 

I will be presenting this new evidence at a talk / outing which is being held by the Bombala Historical Society in November on the history of Tombong. 

Cheers & thanks for the amazing resource you maintain,   Frances Ingram 

Hi Frances,

We don’t have the email address you want as the original message was sent to Maureen McGee.  I have included her address so that you can contact her and hopefully Charles Jennings as a result.

Regards, Ian



Dear Maureen


Early History of the Bombala End of the Monaro District


I came across the information you submitted about the Monaro District on this site.  http://www.monaropioneers.com/properties/index.htm


I found it fascinating. I know many of the stations and properties very well.  I was born on Delegate Station in 1949. My family are decended from Robert Campbell, who settled it.


I just wanted to let you know that the dates of acquisition of Delegate Station you list – when it was ‘taken up by Merchant Campbell’ - are not correct.  The original homestead (which is still maintained) was built in 1827.  Campbell sent stock to Delegate from his properties on the Limestone Plains (Canberra) for summer pasture. The full story of Delegate is detailed in 'The Spirit of Wharf House’ by Charles Newman (Angis & Robertson 1961).  There are also some details here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delegate,_New_South_Wales


Kind regards, Charles Jennings

Thank you Maureen,

Regards, Ian



From: Richard Upston
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 9:29 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Hogan, Edward (I321823)


Proposed Change: Hogan, Edward (I321823)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I321823&tree=MP


Description: My mother is listed as Anne I Turner, a child of Edmund Turner and Annie Hogan, born in Braidwood in 1910. All of my records, including her marriage certificate, show her as Irene Anne Turner, not Anne I Turner, born 8th April 1910. Mum married Richard Arthur Upston on 25th January 1936 in Campsie and she died 11th May 1980 at Kogarah NSW. She is buried at the General Lawn Cemetry, Woronora, NSW. I have all the relevant certificates if you would like copies to verify the above. 


Richard Upston

Thank you Richard,

Yes we would certainly appreciate copies of any certificates you can provide.

Regards, Ian



From: eileen sawaid
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 7:07 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Chalker, I. (I298898)


Proposed Change: Chalker, I. (I298898)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I298898&tree=MP


Description: Ivy married walter alfred basil chappell in 1939 and they had 2 boys walter died in 1976 and then she went on to marrie colin thomas bewick anh she past away in 2004 in port macquire.

i have a copy of walters death cert if you need.


eileen sawaid

Thank you,

Regards, Ian



From: Kristine Howard
Sent: Sunday, 5 November 2017 11:35 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Pooley, Lewis Edward (I317662)


Proposed Change: Pooley, Lewis Edward (I317662)

Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I317662&tree=MP


Description: To add this link re Edward's War Service:


This booklet is the available story of Edward Pooley, one of the 88 Braidwood volunteers who did not return from World War I. It contains his details as recorded in the World War I Roll of Honour, his Enlistment Papers, Field Service records, any Casualty notification, correspondence relating to his death, details of decorations won.

It has been compiled by the Braidwood RSL Sub-branch.


Kristine Howard

Thank you,

Regards, Ian


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