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2018 Number 05


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On 2018-06-09 21:40, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Bell, Marie (I69360)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian,
Marie Ellen Bell and Allan James Stokes married in 1961 (reg. Cooma)
Allan passed away 1 July 2017 Cooma* and Marie passed away 23 Nov 2017* also at Cooma.
Marie's mother, Ethel, passed away 1986. (BDM NSW- Cooma?)

*Monaro Post(Cooma)

Cheers,  Michelle
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-06-09 01:25, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Bell, Gertie (I69351)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian
Gertrude Lucy Bell born 1891 NZ, married Robert Frank Imlay 1927 Chatswood NSW
"Gertie" died 1981 Taree NSW

Robert Frank Imlay** born 14 April 1900 Steyning, England, died 24 Jan 1965 Taree NSW

** England BDM AND 1911 Census note "IMLACH"

Cheers,  Michelle

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-06-09 01:09, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Bell, Nellie (I69350)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian

UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969 for Nicholas Buijs
Name:     Nicholas Buijs
Gender:     Male
Birth Date:     abt 1883
Marriage Age:     41
Marriage Date:     13 Mar 1924
Marriage Place: Shanghai, China
Event Type:     Marriage
Father:     Jacob Buijs
Spouse:     Ellen Edith Bell
Spouse Gender:     Female
Spouse Marriage Age:     36
Father-in-Law:     Paul Thomas Bell
Piece Description:     RG 33: Foreign Registers and Returns, 1627-1960

BUIJS    Ellen Edith    Death notice    16JUN1978    Death    91     at Cooma District Hospital, late of Nimmitabel    Sydney Morning Herald    17JUN1978 page 32

BUIJS    Ellen Edith- June 15, 1978, at Cooma District Hospital, late of Nimmitabel, wife of the late Nicholas Buijs, loving sister of John (deceased), Reginald (deceased), Charles (deceased). Also of Hugh, Ida and Gertrude. Aged 91 years.

BUIJS    Nicholas    Death notice    16MAY1950    Death        at Roseville    Sydney Morning Herald    18MAY1950 page 22

BUIJS, Nicholas.-May 16. at Roseville, beloved husband of Nelle, brother in-law of John. Hugh, Reggie (dec.), Gertie, Dorrie, Ida and Charlie. Greatly loved,  Privately cremated 17th inst.

cheers, MIchelle
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-06-04 21:54, Lachlan Turner wrote:

Good afternoon Ian (Monaro Pioneers),

I am hoping that you may be able to assist with my enquiry, as it is a little outside the main purpose of your website - but I am trying a long shot here in the hope of some success.Over the last few years I have developed an interest in Court House Buildings in country NSW and am researching old court house buildings. I understand that there existed a Court of Petty Sessions at Berridale from October 1958 to April 1979. I am assuming that court proceedings may have been held in a building that was either built for that purpose (i.e. a Court House), or maybe some other building (e.g the Police Station).

I would be interested to know more details about any court buildings and if they still exist. I have tried to locate them but have been unsuccessful, hence I am requesting your assistance.

Currently I am collecting as much information about court houses in country NSW with the view to writing a book about them.  Much of the history associated with former country court houses is disappearing and it is my aim to gather as much as possible before it is too late. If by chance that you have any information and hopefully a photograph of any such building, may I please have a copy, as I will be most pleased to include it in the book with suitable acknowledgment. I have so far visited and photographed over 350 buildings in NSW that are, or were, court houses at some time.  I am currently in the process of expanding my research to also include old court house buildings.

Please feel free to pass this request on to someone else if you wish. 
Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
I look forward to your reply.
With many thanks.

Kind regards,  Lachlan Turner

Hi Lachlan,

I suggest you put your request on the two facebook pages following..



Regards,  Ian


On 2018-06-04 00:44, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Sheils, James Clive (I50600)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian

Children of James Clive Sheils and Una Alma Grace Clarke

1.THORA UNA b 1923- died 26 May 2009 Narranbundah ACT
Married 1. HAROLD JAMES  MCINNES n 1942 Queanbeyan Harold died 1966 Queanbeyan

Married 2. HENDRIKUS ADRIANUS (Harry) STEENKAMER died Aug 30 1993

The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Wed 1 Sep 1993 Page 26
Family Notices
STEENKAMER Hendrikus Adrianus (Harry). August 30, 1993. Result of boating accident. Late of Batehaven and Canberra. Beloved husband of Thora. Loved father of Larry and Sherly. Stepfather of Bruce , Blen and Brian Mclnnes. Grandfather of Jade and Ben. Poppy of Keith, Tony, Danielle, Selina, Craig

2.JOAN BEULAH b 08.04.1925 13.01.2018 Canberra
Francis (Frank) Marryat born  01.12. 1926 Caulfied Vic

The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Mon 5 Sep 1983 Page 12
MARRYAT, Francis Herbert (Frank). Suddenly at home, 2 September, 1983.
Late of 9 Bannister Gardens. Griffith. Dearly beloved husband of Joan.
Devoted father of Ian, Phillip and Narelle. Loved father-in-law of Judy and Peter. Loved grandfather of their children.

3.    BERYL ESMA c 1927- 08.04.2001 OConnor ACT
Married CLAUDE JAMES DAY 1948 Queanbeyan
Claude born c 1928- died 27.11.2006 Canberra 

4.NORMA FLORENCE b ?- 28.12.2000 Canberra
Patrick died 01.11.1986 Canberra

The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Mon 3 Nov 1986 page 20
REYNOLDS, Patrick William
Suddenly at his residence 16 Hardman St, O'Connor November 1, 1986. Dearly loved husband of Norma , loved father of Harley, loved brother and brother-in-law of Fred (dec), Terry and Madeline, Jack (dec) and Mary, dear uncle of their children. Fond friend of Penny.

5.HAZEL JOYCE  b ? 27.05.2018 Canberra
Married RONALD PURCELL 1950 Queanbeyan
Ronald died 27.09.1980 Canberra

The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Monday 29 September 1980 p 15 Family Notices
PURCELL, Ronald. At RCH, September 27th. Late of Cowper St, Ainslie.
Beloved husband of Hazel. Loved father and father-in-law of Barry and Lynn, Suzanne and Neville (Quigg), Sonya and Alan (Alcock) and Anthony.Loved grandfather of Toni and Brett.
At Rest.

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-06-03 19:13, BRETT FROST wrote:

Proposed Change: Thomas, Sarah Jane (I107004)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: SARAH JANE THOMAS, died 26 nov 1952,buried at Liverpool cemetery.

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-06-03 09:18, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Parkes, Joseph (I63822)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian
Just a little more information for Joseph Parkes family

The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Tuesday 31 October 1989 p 21 Family Notices
PARKES, Joseph. Passed away Cooma Hospital 27-10-89. Late of Berridale.
Loved Husband of Thelma (dec), loved father and father-in-law of Noel and Aileen, Norma and Wally Weston, Audrey and Aub Casson, Pat and Neville Galvin (Canberra). Loving Pop of Mark and Jan, Elissa, and Owen and Graham.
Joseph and Thelma had the following children

1.    Noel William Parkes born 19 Oct 1926** Tempe NSW died 4 Feb 2005 Sydney
Aileen was born c 1921 and died 8 Sep 1995 Sydney
**info from WW2 enlistment

2.    Patricia Josephine Parkes married  NEVILLE PATRICK GALVIN***
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Mon 30 Jan 1967 Page 8 Family Notices 
Queensland honeymoon
After a reception at the Hotel Canberra, Mr and Mrs Neville Galvin, who were married at St Christopher's Co-Cathedral, Manuka, on Friday, left for a honeymoon in Queensland. The bride, formerly Miss Patricia Parkes, daughter of Mr and Mrs . Parkes, of Berridale, NSW, was attended by Misses W. Plain and J. Casson. Mr A. Casson was best man. The bridegroom is the son of Mrs O. (sic D) Galvin, of Gundagai, NSW, and the late Mr Galvin.
***son of Frederick Galvin and Doris Mary/May Ross

3.    Norma Mary/May Parkes born c 1932 passed away 23 Feb 2014 Sydney
WESTON    Norma Mary    Death notice    23FEB2014    Death    82     at Royal North Shore, Sydney, formerly of Jindabyne    Cooma-Monaro Express    25FEB2014
WESTON    Norma May    Death notice    23FEB2014    Death    82     at Royal North Shore, Sydney, formerly of Jindabyne    Cooma-Monaro Express    27FEB2014

Norma married WALTER THOMAS WESTON 1951 in Cooma
Walter was the son of Eric Walter Weston and Eileen Isabel Girvan (as already noted on MP)

4.    Audrey Alice Parkes was born c 1933 and passed away 5 May 2013
CASSON    Audrey Alice    Probate notice    17JUN2013    Publication            Canberra Times    17JUN2013
CASSON    Audrey Alice    Death notice    05MAY2013    Death    80         Canberra Times    08MAY2013

Audrey married AUBREY DONALD CASSON  in 1955 at Cooma
Aubrey was born c 1930 and  passed away 24 Jun 2007

CASSON    Aubrey Donald    Death notice    24JUN2007    Death    77         Canberra Times    27JUN2007

Regards,  Michelle
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-06-02 21:26, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Ross, John (I251280)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description:  Hi Ian

The Tumut and Adelong Times (NSW : 1864 - 1867; 1899 - 1950)
Fri 26 Sep 1913 Page 2
An old identity of Adelong, Mr. John Ross (son of the late Mrs. Kitty Ross who was saved in a tree at the great Gundagai flood), died on Tuesday last caused by a pulmonary complaint. Fuller particulars in next issue.

 The Gundagai Independent and Pastoral, Agricultural and Mining Advocate (NSW : 1898 - 1928) Sat 27 Sep 1913
Page 2
Mr. John Ross, who had been suffering for years, from miners'
phthisis, died suddenly on Tuesday evening at Adelong, and was
buried on Wednesday. Deceased formerly kept hotels at Coolamon, Hills Creek, Tarcutta, and until lately, the Billabong Hotel. He leaves a widow and five children.

cheers, Michelle
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-31 08:34, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Parkes, Leonard Percival (I63820)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian
Leonard Percival Parkes and Gloria Joyce Beer married 3 May 1944 at St, Clements, Marrickville NSW
Gloria Joyce Beer Parkes passed away at Umina NSW 13 Apr 2017 aged 95 years.
Gloria' parents were William Beer and Mary Ann Philomena Mercer.

Leonard's brother, Joseph Parkes, married Thelma Ivy Beer, also the daughter of William and Mary Ann Beer, in 1926 Alexandria NSW.
Thelma was born 16 Oct 1906 in Alexandria and died 24 Nov 1981 at Cooma.

Cheers,  Michelle
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-30 06:24, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Blacket, Bessie Enid (I228010)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: ALLEY    Bessie Enid    Death notice    27JAN1982    Death    66     at Newcastle, late of Nowra, formerly of Sassafras    Sydney Morning Herald    30JAN1982

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-29 03:46, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Alley, George Underwood (I228005)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: OBITUARY

The death of Mr. Peter Alley, of Sassafras, which occurred at 'Edman' Private Hospital, Nowra, on Wednesday morning, came as a terrible shock to his relatives and many friends in the Nerriga district. The deceased, who was only 30 years of age, was a son of Mr. George U. Alley, of Sassafras. He had only been in hospital about a week, prior to which time he had been working at Messrs; McGuire's sawmill for the past couple of years. Peter Alley was a splendid type of young man, honest, conscientious and generous in the extreme. He was a general favourite with everyone who had the pleasure of his acquaintance. The young man had friends everywhere. Amongst his fellow employees he was most popular. There was no more competent workman a man who simply compelled the respect of employer and fellow employee alike. His passing came as an awful blow to them all. The deceased had been working on his father's property for many years, proving himself one of the most capable and resourceful men it would be possible to find. Many a traveller on the Nerriga-Nowra road, particularly in flood time, had cause to remember the assistance given by him. Writer can speak feelingly of one instance when he rescued his car from the flooded Stoney Creek long before there was any bridge there. Deceased leaves a widow, who was a Miss Rita Croker, of Tarago, and one young child to mourn their loss. To them and his relatives we extend our sincere sympathy. The funeral took place at Nerriga yesterday.
Braidwood Dispatch and Mining Journal (NSW : 1888 - 1954), Friday 19 March 1943, page 2

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-28 22:43, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Alley, George Underwood (I227918)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: FUNERALS.
ALLEY. - The Relatives and Friends of Mrs. G. ALLEY and FAMILY are kindly Invited to attend the Funeral of her dearly beloved Husband and their Father, George Underwood Alley, to move from his late residence. Auburn Road. Bankstown, THIS THURSDAY, at 1.30. for Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood. 
 The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1883 - 1930) Thu 7 Sep 1922  Page 4  Family Notices

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-28 22:36, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Temple, Mary Ann (I205211)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: variation on death date
ALLEY. Mary Ann, wife of Mr. George Underwood Alley, jun., of Sassafras, at Booran Hospital, Nowra, on Sunday.
March 12, aged 34 years.
The Nowra Leader (NSW : 1909 - 1939) Fri 17 Mar 1922 Page 4
Family Notices 

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-28 05:48, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Alley, Dr. George Underwood (I227901)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: death date correction

Death of Dr. Alley. - Dr. George Underwood Alley, who many years age was a prominent public character in this and of the district, and subsequently at Shoalhaven, died at Araluen on Tuesday last. Many of the old residents in Wollongong and other parts of Illawarra will remember that the deceased was a frequent writer in the press, his usual signature being ' G. U. A.' He also contested the general election for this constituency on the occasion that Mr. John Marks and the late Mr. Robert Owen were returned, the electorate then extending from Bulli to the Shoalhaven River. He was the lowest on the poll, however, 39 votes only having been recorded for him. In the course of his contributions to the press, he frequently aimed at accomplishing public good, but his ever-prevailing weakness for bitter person alities invariably nullified the efforts of his ready pen. During the last twelve or fourteen years he has resided at Araluen, where his death took place. It is here worthy of notice that the deceased maintained that he was the first person that directed any attention to the existence of coal at Mount Keira, and the advantage that that mineral was certain to become to Wollongong and lllawarra generally.
Illawarra Mercury (Wollongong, NSW : 1856 - 1950) Tue 8 Jul 1879  Page 2

Dr. George Underwood Alley, an old resident of Shoalhaven, died at Araluen on June 24.  Evening News (Sydney, NSW : 1869 - 1931) Mon 30 Jun 1879 Page 3 Brief Mention.

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-27 01:30, Trish wrote:

Ref: Negus Edward Brown. William Brown Genealogy


Dear Ian,

 On the page titled Negus Edward Brown, there is this photo of a man in WW1 uniform:

This photo is NOT Negus Edward Brown. It is a photo of another soldier, also from Berridale, by the name of Cecil Oliver. I can’t see who contributed this photo, but ultimately I know it’s my fault that this mistake has occurred. I was given this photo and was told it was Negus Brown. I (very naively, as it turned out) didn’t question the veracity of the info, and submitted it to the Australian War Memorial database. I’m guessing that may be where the photo was plucked from. I don’t remember adding it here. I later verified the photo to be that of Cecil Oliver and contacted the AWM and had it removed it from their database.

I’d be very grateful if you could remove it, or contact the contributor and ask them to remove it, from the profile of Negus Edward Brown on monaro pioneers.

I’ve learned a valuable (and embarrassing!) lesson from this mistake: verify EVERYTHING before perpetrating it as fact, regardless of how trustworthy you think the source is. It was the ‘red herring’ amongst other accurate info and I fell in the trap.  

Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Kind regards,Trish

Hi Trish, 

Thank you for letting us know, the correction has been made.   We have all made similar mistakes, just part of the fun of family research.  The important thing is the right information is now established. 

I have copied David Knox on this email so it can be included in the next newsletter, if you don't want it published please let David know.

Regards,  Ian

Hi Ian,

THANK YOU very much for removing the photo. I was horrified to find it (x2) on Google Images and realize that it was still in circulation as Negus Brown. I thought I’d covered all my tracks at the time, 3 or 4 years ago. By some means, it’s also ended up in the National Archives so I’ve emailed them, too. Who would have thought that one small stuff up could have so many legs! That’s modern technology for you...

 Now you have removed it, I’m hoping it may just magically disappear as a link to monaropioneers on Google Images, but could you please double check to see it is removed from there. I don’t know how GI works, it may be up to you as holder of the link to remove it.

You are welcome to include it in your next newsletter.

Many thanks for your help. I’m still wiping the egg off my face J

Kind regards, Trish


On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Tony Paul <tony@associationmedia.com.au> wrote:

Hi Michael,

There is a slight error with my 2x great grandfather Donald Cameron. The database has his death recorded as 24 Jun 1883 at "Woodlands", Gundaroo.

He in fact died 1 July 1883 at his property called "The Glebe" at Ginninderra.  There was a nice obituary for him.

We regret to have to announce the unexpected death of Mr. Donald Cameron, of Ginninderra, an old and deservedly respected resident of the district. The deceased gentleman was in town only a fortnight ago today in his usual health. On returning to his home that evening, he complained of illness, and showed symptoms of an epidemic at present prevalent at Ginninderra. He at once took to his bed, and Dr. Richardson's services were obtained.. The sickness took the form of bilious fever with other complications, and despite every attention, medical skill and careful nursing were alike baffled, and on Sunday morning about two o'clock ,Mr. Cameron died in the presence of the doctor, and his sorrowing household. The interment takes place this day in the Church of England cemetery at Ginninderra. Mr. Cameron was an estimable man in every relationship of life. He was an elder in the Presbyterian Church, and a useful member of society in many ways. His decease, at the comparatively early age of fifty-two, is deeply regretted, not only on account of his public usefulness, but more particularly as he leaves a widow and a helpless family of four little girls and an invalid son, the eldest of whom is only thirteen. Much commiseration is felt for the bereaved widow and orphans
Queanbeyan Age (NSW : 1867 - 1904)  Tue 3 Jul 1883  Page 2  Local News and Notes.

It was also reported how his neighbours came to the farm and helped bring in the crops after his death:

Once more we have pleasure in reporting an act of true neighbourliness amongst the settlers at Gininderra, who are already distinguished for acts of kindness and self-sacrifice which we, should like to see emulted more generally through out the colony. It appears that the late Mr. Donald Cameron (whose interment took place last Tuesday) had only very partially cropped his lands at the time when he was so suddenly and unexpectedly called away by death. On Thursday (yesterday) a number of the neighbours manifested their sympathy with the bereaved widow and orphans in a thoroughly practical way, viz., assembling in force with their ploughs, harrows, and seed, and putting in a large extent of grain. We shall doubtless hear more particularly of the kindly deed, which doubtless conmmands the admiration of all right-thinking men, and certainly redounds to the credit of the principal actors. Queanbeyan Age (NSW : 1867 - 1904)  Fri 6 Jul 1883  Page 2  Local News and Notes

 Cheers!   Tony Paul
Thank you Tony,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-25 16:10, Maria Bell wrote:

Proposed Change: Bell, James (I3926449)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: James Christopher Bell Dec'd Shoalhaven Heads April 2018

Maria Bell
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-24 23:14, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Beattie, Estelle May (I104405)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian
Estelle was born 19/06/1897
Died 25/08/ 1987
Interred Wagga Lawn Cem 28/08/1987

Husband, Silvester George Rodd born 8 Dec 1897
Died 21/07/1985
Interred Wagga 24/07/1985

Son, Silvester Kenneth Rodd
died 25/12/1975
Interred Wagga 29/12/1975

(All information from Cemetery records)

Cheers, Michelle
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-24 07:43, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Abbottsmith, Kenneth Stanley (I282284)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: The Monaro Post May 2018

Kenneth Stanley Abbottsmith
        1952 - 1970
        Sadly Missed
       Never forgotten
Mum, Fay, Dick, Diane, Graham, Garry

Gregory McInnes
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-24 07:33, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Constance, Gwendoline Reta (I138092)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Monaro Post May 2018
Funeral Notice

RUSSELL, Gwendoline Rita

Passed away peacefully on Tuesday, May 8th 2018 at Cooma Hospital,
formerly of Anglers Reach Rd, Old Adaminaby.
Aged 97 years.

Dearly loved wife of Leo (dec), mother of Carmel, Brian (dec) and
Robert (dec). Mother in-law to Maurice. Grandmother to Rory,
Kara and Coral. Sister to Effie (dec) and Keven (dec).

The relatives and friends of the late GWENDOLINE RITA RUSSELL were invited to attend her funeral service, held in the St Johns Anglican Church, Adaminaby, on Monday May 14th 2018 at 11:00 am.
At the conclusion of the service, the cortege proceeded to Adaminaby Cemetery.

The family deeply appreciate the expressions of sympathy conveyed to them in many ways.

Gregory McInnes
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-22 02:42, Cheryl Moore wrote:

Hi Ian,

Hope you are well. I wonder whether you could change the marriage details for Joan Nicholson born 17 Dec 1910 in Eden. Died Jun 2005 in Sydney, daughter of Arthur Imlay Nicholson and Rachel Woods. The Monaro Pioneers website has her married to David Smallwood Pearse and having her died in 2008. I don't know who he is. Joan Married Gerald Herbert Griffith on 15th Nov 1947 at the C of E Church of St Paul, Carlingford, NSW. Gerald Herbert Griffith was born about 1910 in Singapore. Not Mudgee as on the marriage record. He died 6 Feb 1979 in Dee Why NSW. Gerald Herbert Griffith had previously been married to Jean A Beatson in 1934 in Woolhara and Janet Euphemia Wilson in 1939 in Windsor NSW. I don't believe that Joan has a middle name of 'Elizabeth'.

I have attached a copy of the marriage record of Joan and Gerald where you can see the details.

Regards,  Cheryl Davidson

Thank you Cheryl,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-21 00:30, Gregory Thorp wrote:

Hello Ian 

My great uncle Arthur Ware is shown on Adaminaby War Memorial for WW1 as A.H. Ware but not a lot was known since then. You recently updated the records of his brother Ernest Henry for me when I had found his history.

Both brothers worked in  Thames New Zealand as bushmen  before going to fight  in Europe.
Arthur was born on 13 April 1892. His middle name is Heywood (his mother's maiden name).
He was a Corporal (serial number 25/860) in 3rd Bttn NZRB.  He was wounded several times over three years  but survived WW1 and returned to  New Zealand.  His file shows he was docked a day's pay for disobeying an order not to go on deck when the troopship was nearing  Australia on the way home. Our soldiers used to say they could smell the gum leaves even before the land came into view.

Would you kindly use this data to 
A) Update his Ware entry under his father  Alexander Ware's name
B)  List him with the 1st World War Enlisters

my thanks in advance

Greg Thorp
Thanks Greg,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-18 22:53, Judy wrote:

Proposed Change: Cooper, Iris E. (I62973)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Iris remarried in 1943 to Douglas Martin - NSW BMD Marriage Index 22062/1943 - spelling MacPhil, Iris Elleine. 

Died 15 Sept 1982 Queanbeyan - NSW BMD 202441/1982 
Cremated - 17 Sep 1982 Norwood Park Memorial, Australian Capital Territory, Australia
Area - Rock Pool ; Portion - Rock ; Row - Left
There is a funeral notice on Trove for Iris Martin
Unable to find a birth record for Iris, her parents married in Victoria, her father died in Cooma Frederick Benjamin Cooper 1942

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-18 22:40, Judy wrote:

Proposed Change: Bray, William Malcolm (I62823)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Marriage of William Malcolm Bray, 29 Jan 1946 to Mrs Esther Horton (nee Donohoe) Manly. 
(Esther was born in Hay NSW  -  NSW BMD  12814/1875  -  died 22 Nov 1970) 
NSW BMD Marriage Index  4647/1946 


Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-18 06:40, Michelle wrote:

Proposed Change: Clements, Elizabeth Rebecca (I72874)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian
FYI in regards to Elizabeth's actual place of death.

Tweed Daily (Murwillumbah, NSW : 1914 - 1949) Tue 22 Jul 1941 Page 2 
The death occurred in St, Margaret's Hospital, Brisbane, on Sunday night of Mrs. Elizabeth Rebecca Jaggers (62), wife of Mr. J. W. Jaggers, of Tumbulgum. She had been ailing for some considerable time and her death was not unexpected.
The late Mrs. Jaggers was Post Mistress at Tumbulgum  having held the position for 28 years. She was born at Model Farm, Towamba, South Coast, where her parents, Mr. and Mrs. W. Clements, were pioneers. She married Mr. Jaggers at Towamba  years ago and came with him to the Tweed where they settled at Tumbulgum in the house the family still occupies.
Throughout her life Mrs. Jaggers was a loyal and active worker for the Church of England and was also known far and wide for her ready help in any good cause and for her sympathy and kindness to those in trouble.
In compliance with her special wish she will be buried  in Tumbulgum cemetery alongside her son, Ambrose, who died in infancy. In addition to her husband she is survived by two sons,Messrs. Roy (A.I.F., Abroad ),and Ashley Jaggers (Tumbulgum) and two daughters, Mrs. M. McDougall (Murwillumbah), and Miss Joyce Jaggers (Tumbulgum).
The funeral will leave Tumbulgum Church of England for Tumbulgum cemetery after a service commencing at 1 o'clock this afternoon.

Cheers,  Michelle
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-16 15:17, GregoryMcInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Stewart, Donald Charles (I29845)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: The Monaro Post May 2018
Funeral Notice

                  DONALD CHARLES STEWART        
                 06.02.1926 - 14.05.2018

Don passed away peacefully in his sleep at Southern Cross Care,
                      Garran, ACT.
Loving husband of Lynnette (dec), father to Tim, Sue, Scotty (dec) & Cathy, father-in-law to Julie, doting grandfather to Sam, Carly & Georgia.

The service for Don to be held at the Bombala Anglican Church,
at 2pm, Friday 18 May, followed by burial at The Lawn Cemetery.
         Envelopes for donations to Dementia Australia
                will be provided at the church.

       "Our legend, little Donny, forever in our hearts"

Thanks Gregory,

I hope you are having a great trip.

Regards,  Ian


On 2018-05-14 20:08, Tracey McKay wrote:

Proposed Change: Vider, Albert Ernest (I290935)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Don't know if it matters but Albert's (Uncle Ernie) body was never recovered from Sydney Harbour presumed drowned so def not buried. There are 2 memorial plaques for him on the family grave marker in Braidwood Cemetery.

Tracey McKay (Vider)
Thank you,
Regards, Ian



if you feel appropriate, would you please forward this on to Merilyn Childs. Thankyou.


2018-05-14 07:03


"Liz Smit"


"Ian Harvey" <ian@monaropioneers.com>

 Hello Merilyn

I saw your request in the Newsletter and feel that the answers you are seeking might already be on the MP website.

From the Monaro Pioneers database:
MP shows the father of Stanley Thomas  to be Julian Childs
MP shows the father of Julian to be Walter/Henry Childs
MP shows the mother of Walter/Henry to be Martha Childs. No father for Walter/Henry is shown.
It is shown that Martha Childs had her son Walter/Henry in 1848
It is shown that Martha Childs married Thomas Brown in 1849

confirmed in BDM

(code NB – Church of England Monaro/Maneroo/Manaro 

MP shows that Martha died in the floods in 1851

from SMH 29 May 1851:

"Thomas Brown, his wife and child"

The people who died in the floods were buried in the cemetery that was used at that time (Bega township did not yet exist) . It was located on Peter Imlay's property "Corridgeree" ... the cemetery is still there (on private land) but only a couple of headstones remain (Widdell and Spence)

MP shows the parents of Martha Child to be William Child and Rachel.

MP shows the death of  William Child as 8 December 1959 (cause "intemperance") which corresponds with the newspaper account of "drunkard death"

my guess is that it is this one 

The death of Rachel Childs is shown as 1891

****  MP shows copies of shipping records for William, Rachel and child Martha aged 9  arriving in Australia in 1841 from Romsey Hampshire.

Whilst the parents of Walter/Henry are shown as "William and Martha" on his marriage cert, this does not necessarily mean they have been truthfully given (unintentionally perhaps).   Martha was 16 or 17 when Walter/Henry was born. If the family information on MP is correct,  Walter/Henry was a year old when his mother married and 3 when she died. It is quite possible that he was then brought up by her parents,  William and Rachel and did not have much knowledge of his mother (and if there was no "legal father" he may just have used his grandfather William's name).  Very possibly the informant for his death cert just didn't know other than what had been passed on.

Copies (or transcriptions) of the two deaths (William and Rachel)  could be obtained from BDM or a transcription agent. You would be looking for the informant or any other mention of Walter/Henry on them.

The marriage one would be a copy of a Church register and can be obtained by contacting the Society of Genealogists, who can then email it to you (small fee). It is unlikely to show her parents .. but you might be lucky in who the witnesses are.

As for Walter/Henry birth ... you would be hoping to find a baptismal record. MP shows "Pambula"  (where there seemed to be several denominations). Society of Genealogists might be able to suggest where you could get searches done on other than CofE.   But baptism (if he was) could be several years after his birth.  If there was no "legal father" Martha may not have had him baptised.

I hope you can find what you need in order to confirm Walter/Henry's earlier family.

best wishes .. Liz Smit

Hi Merilyn,

we have received a contact for you ...

Regards,  Ian Harvey
Monaro Pioneers


On 2018-05-14 06:32, Peter Lowther wrote:

Proposed Change: Eccleston, Henry Reginald (I74427)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Ian,
From Australia, Death Index, 1787 - 1985, entry for Henry Rignold (sic) Eccleston death 20 Feb 1950 Qld ref B025892 Page 678

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-14 04:13, Patricia McGufficke wrote:

Proposed Change: Richards, Thomas (I144636)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: There are many who think that Thomas Richards is the son of convicts, George Richards and Grace Mansfield, born Sydney 24 Oct 1810 and baptised 12 Apr 1811 in St PhilipsCofE, Sydney. All agree he married Martha Fowler to whom a son was born 5 Apr 1841 in Jacqua, Bungonia, NSW.  The 1841 census has them living at "Egham", County Argyle.

24 Oct 1841 Arrested at Bungonia, Thomas Richards, a Native born Sydney 1811, Protestant, a carpenter, 5' 4 1/2" tall, slight build, ruddy complexion, dark brown hair, blue eyes, no distinguishing marks, in Berrima Gaol.  Discharged 11 Feb 1842 after a fine of 10 + 3/- costs.  His behaviour in gaol was recorded as "orderly". (NSW Gaol Description and Entrance Books).

This description is quite different to that of Thomas Richards, the convict, who arrived in May 1829.

Patricia McGufficke
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-14 03:01, Patricia McGufficke wrote:

Proposed Change: Salway, John Henry (I127255)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Birthdate: 19 Jul 1876 Cobargo

John Henry was awarded the Queen's South African Medal, with 2 clasps.  His parents did not receive it as his address was given only as Sydney, and the medal was returned to London (info. from Ruth Salway).

Patricia McGufficke
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-13 05:56, Warwick wrote:

Proposed Change: Ritchie, James A. (I171061)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: This will fill in a few details

An old Identity of the 'Crookwell district, James Alexander Ritchie, passed away at his home at Croydon at the great age of 92 years on March 16 last. Born at Irvinestown, County of Fermanagh, Ireland, he came to Australia at an early age with his parents In 1862. The trip took six months and the family settled at "Foxground," Kiama district for the first six years. They then migrated to Bolong, which Is now known as Fullerton.
The deceased entered the Education Department In the late 80's, but resigned following the untimely death of his father, who died at Peelwood as a result of an accident in 1889. After a few years on the land he again entered the Education Department and continued in that service till his retirement. 
He taught at Limerick, Flowerburn and Big Meadow schools for several years and was also at Binda for a short period. From there he was transfered to Brungle In the Tumut-Gundagai district and later went to Wyong where he remained until his retirement. 
The late Mr. Ritchie was a self-taught man and was regarded by fellow teachers as one of the best mathematicians In the Crookwell district. He was gifted with a remarkable memory and almost to the end of his long life could relate Incidents in detail which happened many years ago. He was also recognised as an authority on nature study and was able to identify almost every plant growing in the tableland areas and could give both botanical and common names of the plants. Some 13 years ago he contributed several historical articles on the Fullerton district to the "Crookwell Gazette" under tho non-de-plume of "Old Hand." He was, too, a man who was always absolutely sure of his facts before making a statement. 
The late Mr. Ritchie was a keen follower of sport, especially cricket and he played with many district teams in years gone by - Fullerton, Irlshtown (now Kempton) and Thalaba. He was considered to be above average in all departments of the game and was one of the pioneers of break bowling in this district. 
The deceased gentleman Is survived by his widow (nee Amelia Fenton, of Peelwood) one son, Garfield, and two daughters, Vera (Mrs. Lucas) and Mona (Mrs. Harrison). One Sister, Mrs. R. Stevens, of Sydney also survives. Following a service at his home at Concord the mortal remains were taken to the Northern Suburbs Crematorium where a further service was conducted by Rev. Dillon, of the Church of England. Pall bearers were his son, Garfield, son-in-law, Arthur Lucas, and nephews Aubrey and Harold Seaman. 
 Crookwell Gazette (NSW : 1885 - 1954)  Wed 8 Apr 1953  Page 3

Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2018-05-13 05:38, Dan Healey wrote:

Proposed Change: Murray, Violet Mona (I2984)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Born 4/4/1893 at Tara Station near Nymagee NSW
Died 7/1/1975 at Lewisham NSW

Dan Healey
Thank you,
Regards, Ian

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