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2019 Number 4


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I must admit, over the last twenty years or so I’ve been one of those people who have rolled their eyes and thought “what next?” when people named their babies.

I have friends who named their children, Hayley Starr and Skye Blue.

Famous people take the cake with names like Apple, Audio, Blue Ivy, Cosimo.


Now I’m thinking “How easy will it be in 200 years time when their descendants decide to build a Family Tree?”


Hands up everyone who has one of those families that repeated names so often that you’re not sure if your ancestors ever knew more than five names, even when they had seven children.

First son James Patrick. Second son Patrick Thomas. Third son Thomas James.

Then you find that James Patrick went by Pat. Patrick Thomas by Tom and Thomas James by Bert!


It makes you wonder if they did it on purpose, just to frustrate us when trying to sort out the Family Tree 100 years down the track.

Grandma asks “What will we name this son?” and Grandpa says “Let’s name him Tom after me, and my father and my grandfather and his older brother and his cousins and his nephews”

Grandma replies “Yes, and we can nickname him Bert, so  the family doesn’t get confused”


NO Grandma, name him Cosimo and give us a chance, please!


It’s like doing dot-to-dot without all the numbers!

It just leaves you not sure which way to go and you just end up going in circles.


Over the last six weeks, we have been going back through the Monaro Pioneers Database trying to make sure we have all the Thomas’ and Berts in their right family lines.


We’ve made some minor changes: adding full dates to BDM’s, adding burial/cemetery records and supplying death notices.

We’ve also made some major changes to families with surnames of BARRETT, CARRIGG, CLANCY, KELLY, MCGOLDRICK, TONGUE, STEPHEN, TAPPER, SCOTT, STEVENS, TAYLOR, IRWIN and MC JENNISON, just to name a few.


Verification and sources have been provided and added to each vital event where changes have been made.

These include information from certificates, church records, cemetery records, newspaper notices and Wills.

(I’m a bit slack and have not sent all the Wills to Ian as yet but as time permits they will be added)


NOW here’s the biggie.

While checking the database we notice there are many vital records with no ‘source’ or a source that does not match.

Sources are very important.

In 200 years time, if someone wants to know where the information came from, they will need a source.


PLEASE if you have provided data to the MP database make sure correct sources are included.


From me. I have provided an email here for contact. PLEASE do not PM me on Ancestry asking for private help. I am NOT providing private help via Ancestry. NONE of us are offering private help with families in or out of the Monaro area.


Have manners people.



The Team.



On 2019-05-05 06:56, Leanne Goss wrote:

Proposed Change: Jackson, Elsie Adele (I175442)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Your site has Elsie Adele Jackson marrying William John Sullivan b 1897 Captains Flat NSW who died in 1947 in Goulburn. The William John Sullivan she married was a different person. I am still piecing his details together but this person died in 1925 in Jerilderie NSW. He was born in 1888. I have ordered a transcription of the marriage and can give you the details once I have them

Leanne Goss
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-05-03 13:22, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Baldwin, Shirley May (I392230)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: The Monaro Post 17 April 2019
In Memoriam

Forever in our hearts
Shirley May Hepburn
29/06/1932 - 18/04/2018
Every time we think of you our
hearts fill with pride.
And though we always miss you, Mum, 
we know you're by our side.
We will always love and honour you Mum.

Wendy, Kelvin and family
Cheryl, David and family
Lucy, Mum's loved cat

Gregory McInnes
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-05-03 13:04, Gregory McInnes wrote:

Proposed Change: Lovelock, Laillie Heather (I84298)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: The Monaro Post 24 April 2019

Funeral Notice

Lailie Heather WILLIAMS
Passed away 21st April 2019, aged 100 years. Of Elizabeth Ave, Cowra and formerly of Cooma. Loved wife of Colin (dec) & mother and mother in-law of Heather and Ken Edwards. Loved grandmother of Ann, Rosalie and Vicki and great grandmother of 8.

Lailie's family & friends are respectfully invited to attend her funeral to be held at St John's Anglican Church, Cowra on Friday 26th April 2019 commencing at 2.00pm. Thence for interment in the Cowra Cemetery.

Keith Philpott Funeral Directors
Cowra 63422322

Gregory McInnes
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-05-03 07:02, Brendan doggett wrote:

Hi Ian
I am trying to trace my grandfathers history but can find no record of him being born in Towamba.
On his WW1 enlistment papers his father was Edward Reed from Craigie and he was born in 1892 in Towamba. I have found a group photo of him with the local Towamba  and his name on the Epitah but nothing else.
On his marriage certificate in 1919 it states that his mother was Ada (Ida) deceased.
Could you please let me know what are my best avenues for researching his history with Towamba
Kathie Doggett

Hi Kathie,

You could try the following ..


Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-30 12:24, Warwick McCall wrote:

Proposed Change: Cooper, Elizabeth (I136687)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Obituary MRS. JAMES WOODWARD. 
Mrs. Elizabeth Woodward, widow of the late Mr. James Woodward, died on Sunday night at her residence, 80 Goldsmith-street, at the age of 84, after a lengthy illness. 
Mrs. Woodward was born in England, and came to Australia when a young girl. For many years she lived at Bungonia, where she was greatly esteemed. About ten years ago she took up her residence in Goulburn. 
Mrs. Woodward is survived by four sons and six daughters. The sons are William, Goulburn; James, Marulan; John, Sydney; and Henry, Goulburn; and the daughters are Mesdames E. Smith, Sydney; J. Hanney, Sydney; F. Hemsley, N.Z.; T. Paton, Goulburn; H. Dallas, Goulburn; G. Collins, Menangle. Mr. James Cooper, of Bungonia, is deceased's only surviving brother. There are nearly 70 grandchildren, and over 60 great grandchildren. The burial will take place at Bungonla to-day (Tuesday), at 11.5 a.m.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940), Tuesday 14 November 1922, page 4

Warwick McCall
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-25 15:39, Warwick McCall wrote:

Proposed Change: Bradley, Monie Elizabeth (I261491)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Probable death

UPTON    Elizabeth Nancy (Beth)    Death notice    14APR2002    Death            Canberra Times    18APR2002

Warwick McCall
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-25 11:30, Warwick McCall wrote:

Proposed Change: Morris, Rose Alice (I14486)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: DEATHS
BRADLEY. On July 24, 1961, at Canberra, Rose Alice Bradley, dearly loved wife of Alexander Bradley and loving mother of Cyril, Mabel (Mrs. Papping), Nancy (Mrs. Upton), Clarence and Margaret (Mrs. Lovelock). Aged 66 years.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995)  Tue 25 Jul 1961  Page 12

Warwick McCall
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-24 10:50, Sharon Willdin wrote:

Proposed Change: Family: O'Leary, John Sylvester / Fitzgibbon, Matilda Mary
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: John O'Leary has an obituary in the Goulburn Evening Post Wednesday 23 August 1950, page 4. According to the article he died on 16 Aug 1950.

Sharon Willdin
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-11 23:29, Jennifer Round wrote:

Proposed Change: Rootsey, Randolph William (I387151)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Randolph and Edith had the following children

William Herbert Henry Rootsey
Birth 26 OCT 1912 New South Wales, Australia
Death 20 OCT 1962 Kiama, New South Wales, Australia

William married twice

1933 Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia
Florence Martha Grose (19142012)
Divorce 1944

7 Jul 1945 North Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Jean Mavis Hill 19192011)


Kathleen Rebecca Rootsey
Birth 1918 Paddington, New South Wales, Australia
Death 31 DEC 1976 New South Wales, Australia

1940 Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia
Sydney Thompson


Eric George Rootsey
Birth 12 JAN 1924 Mascot, New South Wales, Australia
Death 26 FEB 1995 late of Kogarah, New South Wales, Australia

1947 Burwood, New South Wales, Australia
Nancy Ryan 
Birth 27 JUL 1925 New South Wales, Australia
Death 29 JUL 2012 formerly of Riverwood, New South Wales, Australia

Gregory Paul Rootsey
Birth 1949 New South Wales, Australia
Death 24 JAN 2009 Gerroa, New South Wales, Australia

Jennifer Round
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-09 21:57, David Andersen wrote:

Proposed Change: Hanson, John (I96966)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: At the Cooma Police Court on Saturday, before Mr. S. Robinson, J.P., John Hanson was charged with abducting Susan Carney, a girl 15 years of age. The accused was arrested at Braidwood on a warrant issued from Cooma. Mary Carney, mother of the girl, residing at Seymour, deposed that her daughter was over 14 years of age, but not 15. She never gave her consent to her daughter to marry Hanson, and as soon as she missed her from home and found that the prisoner had also left the district, she procured a warrant for his arrest. Her daughter told her that they were married at Braidwood. The prisoner was remanded till Wednesday. On Wednesday, before Mr. Dawson P.M., a double charge of abduction and making a false declaration was preferred against Hanson; and after evidence of the date of the birth of the girl Carney had been taken, also the evidence of Thomas Carney, the father, prisoner was remanded to Braidwood on both charges. Gazette. [Queanbeyan Age 20th November 1873 p.2]

David Andersen
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-09 21:47, David Andersen wrote:

Proposed Change: Martin, Ann (I66708)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Anne Martin was born around 1820 in Sussex, UK daughter of John Martin and Dinah Tapp

She arrived in Sydney as an unaccompanied female immigrant  on the Burhampooter in August 1841.. Daughter of John Martin  and Dinah Tapps (dead) born Haddimer.  Brought out by  Nicholas Palmer good health but not very strong , Wesleyan, reads and writes  Her sister Mercy had arrived earlier on 7th August 1839 on the Florist.  Mercy was one of the witnesses to Anne's first marriage to John Hanson on 28th August 1848. 

On 28th March 1853 there is a note in the Sydney Morning Herald " Notice - My wife, Ann Hanson having left her home without any provocation, I hereby give notice that I will not be responsible for any debt or debts she may contract. John Hanson Sofala March 17"  Evidently around this time Ann left John Hanson and in due course began a relationship with Michael McMahon and moved from the Sofala goldfields to the Braidwood area.

Monaro Mercury and Cooma and Bombala Advertiser 16th June 1886 p.3

The Coroner, Mr. F.B. Montague, held an inquest on the remains of George Kealing, Ann Kealing, and. Robert Palmer, at Coolringdon on Monday afternoon. Sub-inspector Baker  was present. Jury :  T. Gorman (foreman) Alexander Seers, Wm. Kennedy, sen., Wm. Kennedy, jun., James Morrissey. Sub-inspector Baker, of police, stationed at Cooma, sworn : on Saturday evening about a quarter to 7. James V Williams reported to me that George Kealings house was burnt to the ground, and he saw some charred, white bones among the remains ; next morning, in company with the Coroner, I proceeded to the place, about half a mile from Coolringdon home station; I then saw the remains of a house that had been burnt to the ground-; the sheets of iron were on the bodies, which were then smouldering ; I found human remains on three different parts of the floor ; (plan produced) ; on No. 1, where the skull was found, I found a bag of wheat; on No. 2, I found some remains of a body on an iron bedstead  ; in no. 3 l found other remains, the head lying near the door ; all that could be found among the remains were some spurs, buckles, &c. ; all but the iron about the place was consumed ; the remains were removed to the store outside. James Williams, overseer on Coolringdon Station, sworn: I met Robert Palmer before sundown on Friday evening about two miles from Coolringdon, on the Cooma road; Palmer, appeared to be quite sober, about half-past 3 o'clock on Saturday afternoon I came home by way of Kealing's, and his place was burnt to the ground ; I looked, but could see nothing; I went to see her son Murdoch McMahon to see if his mother had been there ; she had not ; we returned ; we shifted a sheet or two of iron, and saw a heap of bones ; we then went in and reported the matter to the police, I was present on Sunday morning when the police picked up the bones ; the house was built of slabs, and the plan produced is like the floor of the house; the house was ceiled with pine, and papered ; there was household furniture in the place, and wheat and chaff in the skilling ; I saw the place standing last Mon day ; the place was not insured ; it was owned by Mr. David Ryrie, and worth about 50; Murdoch Mc Mahon was with me when I met Palmer, and told me who the old man was. Murdoch McMahon, laborer, re siding at Coolringdon, sworn : I am a son of Mrs Keeling one of the deceased ; I got up about 4 o'clock on Saturday morning, and heard like a tree falling when at my own place, round the hill here ; looked round in the direction of my mother's place, and saw a smoke ; I went to bed again ; on Saturday evening, Williams asked me if I saw my mother; I said no; he said "The house is burned to ashes ;" the old man (Kealing) was in the habit of setting fire to the trees to get fire wood, and I came to the conclusion that one of the trees came crashing down ; I went with Williams to the house, which was burnt to the ground ; I saw the bone's of one of the bodies ; I came back ; I was with Williams when we met Palmer; he was not under the influence of liquor, and he offered us no grog, I saw no drink with him; my mother's age was about 59 years ; I knew Palmer to speak to ; my mother used to take a drink occasionally; Kealing was addicted to drink. Kate McMahon, wife of Murdoch McMahon, sworn: Robert Palmer called at my place about 5 on Friday evening ; he asked to be directed to George Kealing's, and I directed him I do not think Palmer was under the influence of drink, but he said he had a drop of grog ; he said he wished to see the old couple.; I saw no grog with him ; I saw two little girls open the gate for him ; he said he would call in the morning when coming back ; I have not seen him since. Patrick O'Donnell , a laborer, sworn: Last Friday I saw Mrs. Kealing an hour before sundown ; she was here, at Coolringdon. Emma Gracie, wife of Joseph Gracie, of the Royal Hotel, Cooma, sworn : Palmer called at my place between 1 and 2 p.m. on Friday, and. I served him with a glass and a bottle of rum ; he left my place sober ; he put the bottle of rum in a pack on the horse, and took it away. Murdock McMahon, recalled : In the room (No. 3) near the fireplace I saw with bones a stay or bandage that used to be worn by Kealing; I saw on Sunday morning a horse that was ridden by Palmer on the Friday. 
John Hanson said Palmer used to knock about with sheep at Adaminaby ; Palmer has a selection; he has no relatives In this colony. .; Dr. Clifford, sworn : I have seen what I take to be human remains, in three parcels, those of two males and one female;. I cannot tell the ages, the remains are so charred ; none of the bones are whole. The Coroner summed up. The jury returned a verdict-that they believed the remains found to be those of George Kealing, Ann Kealing, and Robert Palmer, and that there is no evidence to show how the fire originated

David Andersen
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-09 08:18, George Leonard Thomas wrote:

Proposed Change: Thomas, Samuel (I107089)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Hi Ian
Notes for Samuel Thomas (I107089) commences with:
Samuel was born in 1884 in Lobs Hole, parents unknown, he was adopted by the Dunn's when he was still a baby.

Samuel's real father was a miner from Syria, his single mother could not look after him, so Catherine and Samuel Thomas took him in when he was born, Samuel Thomas died later that year, so Catherine married John Eldridge Dunn in 1886.

I consider the first two paragraphs to be incorrect for the following reasons:
1. The NSW BDM shows:
Samuel T was born 25JUN1884. His father Samuel died in a bullock wagon accident in 2 May 1884, prior to Samuel T's birth so there is no substance to Catherine and Samuel "taking him in". Samuel T's older brother Herbert James died in 1885 and Samuel T was raised as a Dunn following his mothers marriage to John Elvidge Dunn in 1885.

George Leonard Thomas

Hi George,

Whilst I can see your reasoning for your conclusions, I don't believe there is concrete evidence to disprove the information that has been provided to us.

It is quite feasible that Catherine took the baby soon after he was born as her own and registered his birth as recorded, listing Samuel Thomas Snr (deceased) as the father.  Not an uncommon occurrence in those times.

What I have done is slightly reword the passage to make it more accurate.

"Samuel's real father was a miner from Syria, his single mother could not look after him, so Catherine Thomas took him in when he was born. Samuel Thomas had died earlier that year, so Catherine married John Eldridge Dunn in 1886."

Perhaps one of our Newsletter readers will be able to comment further.

Regards, Ian 

Thank you Ian.

The "miner from Syria" is interesting – an assertion I have not come across elsewhere and the specific nature of the remark suggests some substance. Would be interesting to know source and context. I respect your determination but I suspect the parentage issue relates to the wife of Samuel T. He married Sarah Jane Thomas in 1908. At that time Sarah Jane had Florence 1902 (who was raised by her Mary Jane Thomas nee Beattie) and David - 1901, Bertha - 1904and Ethel – 1907 all of unknown paternity. 

Samuel senior had a rough time  - bankrupt in June 1881, and coroners inquest into his death indicated drink was involved in the accidental death.  He was by far the youngest death of the children of James & Mary Thomas.

Would be good if someone is forthcoming with some comment on the source of the paternity hypothesis for Samuel T.

Regards,  George Thomas


On 2019-04-09 09:31, David Andersen wrote:

Proposed Change: Cross, James (I220085)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: James had a child James Lane with Alice Lane in 1894 [3493/1894]  Alice later married/lived with  Albert Love - New South Wales Police Gazette 27th May 1896 p. 198

Gundagai Independent (NSW : 1928 - 1939), Thursday 17 June 1937, page 5
The death occurred at the Tumut and District Hospital early on Friday morning last, of Mr. James Ross of Grahamstown, after a lengthy illness, at the age of 70 years. The late Mr. Ross spent practically all his life about Grahamstown, where he was well-known and highly respected, and as long as his health permitted, followed mining pursuits, but of recent years he has been invalided with rheumatism. He has been an inmate of the Tumut Hosptial on different occasions, and it was only just over three weeks before his death that he was admitted for the last time, and death came as a merciful release on Friday morning. The deceased's mother was at Gundagai at the time of the Big Flood, when she underwent a most trying experience, and three of her children were drowned, one of the survivors being Mrs. Parker, of Grahamstown, now 85 years of age, who, with a sister, Mrs. Bradley, of Bargo, are now the only two left of the family of ten. One brother, Mr. John Ross, married a Miss O'Dwyer, of Mt. Adrah. There are also nieces and nephews surviving. The funeral, which was largely attended took place in the C. of E. portion of the Adelong cemetery, at 8 o'clock on Saturday afternoon, Rev H. C. Walton officiating at the graveside, whither the casket was borne by Messrs. W. Parker (nephew), E. Corbett, H. Corbett, Thos. O'Dwyer..N. Nean and --- McGowan.

David Andersen

Thank you,

Although you have identified the wrong person, should be James Ross b1867 (I251282)

Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-09 09:25, David Andersen wrote:

Proposed Change: Crowe, Benjamin Joshua (I43919)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: m.  Alice Blane Mercer on  5th January 1887 at Singleton
d. 4 Oct 1927 at Burwood and buried in Mays Hill Cemetery 
Henry Harold Crowe b. 9th March 1892 at Adaminaby  [3417/1892] m. Vera Kathleen  Mason in 1923 at Sydney [9632/1923] [Vera Kathleen died in 1948 at Paddington] d. 12th June 1965 at Sydney [2700/1965] {Sydney Morning Herald 14th June 1965]
Bessie Blane Crowe b. 1893  at Cooma [11395/1893] d. 1969 at Goulburn [34205/1969] did not marry
Elsie Newland Crowe b. 1896 at Adaminaby[19096/1896] m. David D Eyre in 1925 at Burwood [13316/1925] d. 7th October 1982 [24198/1982][Sydney Morning Herald 9th October 1982]
Benjamin Claude Crowe b. 1898 at Adaminaby[28099/1898] d. 1961 at Parramatta [14771/1961]
Evening News 6th September 1907 p. 6


Before Mr. Justice Pring and a jury of four   this morning,-Lester Anderson Simpson, dentist, of Parramatta, claimed 1000 as damages from Benjamin Crowe and A. B. Crowe (his wife) for slander.       Mr. Shand, K.C., and Mr.G. E. Flannery   (instructed by Mr. J. W. S. Lucas) appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr. Wade, K.C, and Mr. F. S. Boyce (instructed by Mr. C. E. Byrnes) for the defendant. The statement of claim set out that the plaintiff carried on the profession of a dentist in Parramatta, where he had been in business for 12 or 13 years. Mrs. Crowe, who was the wife of Alderman Crowe, of the Sherwood and Prospect Council, and a well-known resident of the district, had some teeth made   by the plaintiff. After the transaction it was   alleged that in April last the female defendant falsely and maliciously spoke and published the following words 'What do you (meaning the plaintiff) mean by taking me in? How dare you rob me like you have. You're nothing but a scoundrel to charge me 4 for these rubbishing teeth.. You are a thief. You have put in common ordinary cement that you stick bricks together with. No one but a blackguard would do such a thing. How dare you swindle me with these teeth. I was recommended to you as a good dentist. You are   nothing but a take-down. You have cut a tooth into pieces, and are trying to swindle them off on to me as teeth. You return me my money at- once.'         The plaintiff claimed that he had been injured in his credit and reputation as a dentist by the words used.               The defendants pleaded not guilty.   (Proceeding)

David Andersen
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-09 09:17, David Andersen wrote:

Proposed Change: Crowe, Thomas William Angel (I15859)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Manaro Mercury, and Cooma and Bombala Advertiser 17th November 1924
Following an injury caused by being knocked over by a sheep, two weeks ago, Mr Thomas William Angel Crowe died at his residence Mt. Royal, Adaminaby, on the 9th inst. Prior to the accident the late Mr Crowe who had reached the advanced age of 87 years, enjoyed the best of health, and, notwithstanding his years, his robust constitution led many to expect his recovery. The funeral look place on Wednesday last, the Rev. Harold Mills, conducting the service; there being a large gathering of friends at the graveside,   which was in the Church of England cemetery at Adaminaby. The   pall bearers were Messrs Percy and Arthur Kearns, Walter Russell and George Holston. Wreaths were contributed by Rita Casey, Mrs McMahon and family, Lillie and Horace Casey, Mr and Mrs    Harry Shanley and family.   The late Mr Crowe was born at Great Yarmouth, England, and at the age of 20 came to Australia with his parents, seven years later coming to Manaro where he was employed by Mr William Bradley,   at Coolringdon, as a shepherd.   He was afterwards at Hemsby, and then at Mt. Royal, where he resided for 36 years. At 26 years of age he married Miss Bridget Foley, whose wedding was said to be the first at Adaminaby, which was then known as Seymour. Deceased, whose father was Mr Robert Crowe, leaves one brother, Benjamin, of Parramatta. He was a widower and leaves a family of 3 sons, William, of Adaminaby, Ernest, of Ferndale, and Charles, of Wambrook, his daughters being Mesdames McMahon, Adaminaby, E. Johnson, Cooma. G. Carter, Wagga, M. Nowlan, Rhine Falls, H. Goodman, of Sydney. Mr J . F Allen conducted the funeral.

David Andersen
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-09 09:14, David Andersen wrote:

Proposed Change: McMahon, O'Brien (I44843)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: Adaminaby Advocate (issue unknown)

After a lingering illness extending over several months the above named well-known resident passed peacefully away on Saturday Sept. 13th.  The deceased had been a hardworking, energetic man all his life and by dint of perseverance had built up a comfortable home.  Like many others who have a competency on Monaro, Mr McMahon started in life with nothing but his pluck and determination to succeed to help him.  Born at Araluen 58 years ago he came to this district as a boy of 14 years of age, his first employment being horse training with an old identity, Mr Mark Duffy and with his trainer Higginson, who successfully trained horses for Mat Shanley during the latter part of the last century.  "Brian" as he was familiarly known, was a champion buckjumping rider, and it is said now that few, if any, horses ever threw him with a fair buck.  Many years ago he was engaged in horse breaking with Mr Thos. Crowe of Mount Royal.  He subsequently secured the contract of carrying the mail from Cooma to Kiandra, whilst there were still a number of diggers at the latter place, and Adaminaby was merely better than a wayside stopping place for the mail, which was conveyed by pack-horse at the time we speak of, the trip occupying anywhere from 12 to 24 hours.  The deceased in recounting his experiences on one occasion whilst doing the trip through snow assured this writer that he had sat and ate his dinner on the cross-piece of a telegraph pole, the particular portion of the road being covered to that depth. After nearly 15 year of mail................

David Andersen
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-09 09:09, David Andersen wrote:

Proposed Change: Harris, Jack Victor (I66757)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: From as early as 1915 when he enlisted Jack used the name John in preference to Jack though both were used for the remainder of his life.
John served 2  years in the 29th Battalion a cadet unit based at Glebe/ Forest Lodge prior joining the AIF.. At the time he was working with a brick layer William Hepburn.
John joined the AIF 26th July 1915 in the 6th Reinforcement 18th Battalion.  His leg was amputated on 25th June 1916 after being wounded on early June 1916 and discharged.  Description 5 foot 4 inches dark complexion, grey eyes and dark hair  146 lb at 18.  Church of England
Tumut and Adelong Times 19th April 1917
Committee of above met on Wednesday afternoon last, Mayor Elphick presiding, and other members present were Messrs. Cripps (secretary),Howitt, Jenkins and Groves.  The business of the meeting was to consider an application made by a returned soldier, Pte. Jack Harris (son of Mr. Charles Harris, at one time residing in Tumut), for assistance. He lost one of his feet whilst fighting at the front, and, after being treated in the hospital, was sent back to Australia, arriving in Tumut on Monday last. He was wearing an artificial limb, and came up to Tumut to visit relatives there, when he found there was need for having the injured part of his leg attended to, but hadn't sufficient money to take him back to Sydney again, therefore he appealed for help. It was resolved that the sum of 5 he handed to him, members of committee who interviewed the young man being of opinion that it was a deserving case. The secretary stated that he had tried to locate the father in Sydney, who had been drawing the son's military pay, but so far had been unable to do so. Information had been given that, after being in the camp at Liverpool for some time he had sailed for the front but the rumour was afterwards contradicted. Members of the Win the-War League promised to refer to the wounded soldier's case at first meeting held. ;
John was granted land at the Tooles Creek Soldier Settlement in 1918- Loan 08857 3/12/1918 to 1/2/1929  [at State Archives] and NSW Returned Soldiers Settlement Loan Files 15/7.1926 to 14/1/1927 Loan 10256
John Victor died on 19th September 1946 [22291/1946]

Tumut and Adelong Times 24th September 1946
As announced in our last issue the death occurred at the Tumut and District Hospital on Thursday last of Mr. John Victor Harris, a veteran of the 1914-18 war, at the age of 49 years. The late Mr Harris had been in ill health for some time and had gone to Wagga to consult a specialist and there he took a bad turn and was admitted to Wagga Base Hospital where he remained for 7 weeks prior to being moved back to Tumut Hospital, about 2 weeks ago. Little hope was held for his recovery and he passed away as stated last Thursday. Deceased was a native of Tumut, being a son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Charles Harris. He served in the 1914- 18 Great War in which he lost a leg. It was remarkable the manner in which he got about on his wooden limb on his return to civilian life. He commenced a carrying business and displayed remarkable strength and agility in its conduct. Afterwards he went in for dairying at Toole's Creek and then at Blowering. For some time he conducted the Blowering cream run before launching out on a market garden at Gilmore. In recent years he had a mail run between Tumut and Adelong, but on the cancellation of this service about four years ago he went to Gilmore to reside.  Deceased married Miss Annie Mc Mahon, of Adaminaby, who predeceased him by 6 years. He leaves a family of four sons and four daughters viz. John, William, Walter and Brian (Gilmore), Mary, Phyllis (Mrs W. Byrne, Sydney), Lilly (AAMWS) and Edna. There are also two brothers, Les and William Harris of Sydney; and two sisters, Miss Mary Harris and Mabel (Mrs. C. Turton, Yass) surviving. 
Deceased was accorded a military funeral which left from the District Hospital on Friday last at 5.30 p.m. Rev. Dr.. Alexander officiated at the graveside and the pall-bearers were all Diggers, viz. Messrs M. Archer, P. Kemp F. Johnson, F. Back, P. Kennedy and T. O'Brien. The Last Post was sounded during the last sad rites. Interment took place in the C. of E. portion of the Tumut New Cemetery. Mr H. W. Baker had charge of the funeral arrangements. Those who sent floral tributes were: Mary, Lil, John, Edna, Bill, Wal, Brian and Phyllis; Mr and Mrs W. S. Callaway 

David Andersen
Thank you,
Regards, Ian


On 2019-04-09 09:03, David Andersen wrote:

Proposed Change: Family: Maynard, George / Desmond, Margaret
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers

Description: George Henry Maynard was born in 1802 at St Alfege Greenwich Kent (son of George Maynard and Ann)
Baptism St Alfege, Greenwich 19th Feb 1802  
George worked as an errand boy in England 
George Henry Maynard was charged with larceny on 27th October 1819 at the Old Bailey and sentenced to 7 years
He was transported to Australia on the Guildford leaving  14th May 1820.  Shortly after arriving at Sydney the vessel and  250 male convicts  were transported to Hobart Town arriving on 28th October 1820   He was 5 4 tall , hazel eyes , dark brown hair and dark sallow complexion. His sentence should have expired in 1827 but he was still a convict in 1830 so his sentence must have been extended
George was not a model convict

Sept 22 1823 Disposing of shirts the property of the Government 25 lashes
March 9, 1825 Playing at cards to be kept in the watch house  during night for one fortnight
Oct 4, 1825 Cruelty to Government cattle reprimanded
Oct 21 1825 Feloniously entering the premises of Mr James Yates charge dismissed  Same date disobedience of orders , 25 lashes and recommended to police barracks
March 10, 1826 Out after hours reprimanded
March 15, 1826 Assaulting and beating field police constable Scarborough- to peace Justices to keep the peace for 6 months. Same date illegally harbouring James Humphrey a runaway convict in his hut on the 8thMarch , instant- fined 40 ?  
April 8 , 1830 Enticing Mary Ann Stanley to leave her husbands house, harbouring and concealing her and resisting the constables in the execution of their duty- to find bail for his appeal before the Court of Quarter Sessions (W Lyttleton and  W Ashbourne)
April 10, 1830 Drunk and disorderly on the street fined 5/-
After their first son, George Desmond, was born in Tasmania in 1838 the family moved to South Australia  and are found in the 1841 census  at Bowden.  The family moved shortly after the census was taken to Victoria where Margaret Francis was born at Portland.

Around 1855 the family excluding Mary Ann who had married moved to Queensland around Rockhampton.  After 1869 they moved to Dalby in Queensland.  In the latter part of his life he was living with Jack and family on Sandalwood
George died on 1st December 1883 at St George Queensland

David Andersen
Thank you,
Regards, Ian