Monaro Pioneers Newsletter
2019 Number 11
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On 2019-12-03 01:56, Jennifer Evans wrote:
Hi Ian,
Alfred Roland Waterson was my uncle his wife Essie Joyce Waterson (nee Presland) the younger sister of my mother Laurel Gertrude Davidson (nee Presland) Essie died 22 Feb 2007 at her home in Wallagoot, Bega. Uncle Alf died 19 Nov 2007 Canberra Hospital as below from Ryerson I hope this helps
Surname
Given Names
Notice Type
Date
Event
Age
Other Details
Publication
Published
WATERSON
Alfred Roland
Probate notice
10JUN2008
Publication
late of Wallagoot
Bega District News
10JUN2008
WATERSON
Alfred Roland
Death notice
19NOV2007
Death
78
at Canberra Hospital, late of Wallagoot
Bega District News
23NOV2007
Thank you for updating such an interesting website
Take care Jennifer
Hello IanPlease find attached a word document and two photographs that provide some details on Heinrich and Barbara Schuback who came to the Monaro in 1849. Heinrich and Barbara are my third great grandparents and their portraits, which my mother acquired some years ago, still hang in her house.I hope this information is in a publishable format for the Monaro Pioneers website under the entry for Heinrich Schuback. If you need more or different information in order to publish, please do not hesitate to contact me.Kind regardsJenny Lock
Thank you Jenny,
I have added your photos and information to Heinrich and Barbara's records in our database and website page.
Regards, Ian
His obituary said that he had 3 sons & 2 daughters living.
Arnold died at Hamilton, NSW on 19 Aug 1990.
Maurice Walton (Sam) Varnum (14 Oct 1922 Singleton – 15 May 2009 Singleton).
Leslie c. 1928 died at West Wallsend on 30 Aug 1992.
Kathleen was born 12 Aug 1918. Her husband, Joseph Small, died 1 Mar 1967. She remarried (?) Lovett & died 12 Dec 1998 at Kahibah NSW.
Lorna Pearl Varnum c1920 died 5 Mar 2008, Singleton. Doesn’t appear to have ever married but she had a son, Francis Varnum, who died in 1953 at Singleton.
Thank you Kerry,Regards, IanVery nice article re Maurice:
Braidwood Dispatch and Mining Journal (NSW : 1888 - 1954), Friday 22 July 1949, page 4
BRAIDWOOD BOY
ACHIEVES FAME IN SINGLETON DISTRICT
HE PUT THE BITE INTO CHEDDAR CHEESE
Under the heading "Personalities of the Week" the Singleton "Argus" prints an interesting article concerning Mr. Maurice Varnum, son of John Varnum, who was born at Warri, Braidwood, and worked on various roads in the district for some time and afterwards went to Singleton, where he continued taking contracts, such was his ability that he finally worked himself up the ladder until he became Engineer for the City Council. Maurice is also a grandson of the late Mr. John Varnum, who lived to the great age ot 105 years, and Bridget Varnum (88), both of whom lived at Warri and Six Mile Flat, and is a nephew of the late Mr. George Varnum, of Six Mile Flat. Maurice's father at one time owned "Khama Lea," at Six Mile Flat, now the picturesque home of Mr. and Mrs A. W. Hill.
The article says: — "Choleric old gentlemen at the Union Club , Sydney, and kindred citadels of entrenched capitalism would tut-tut in their throats were they informed that the after dinner Cheddar cheese they were enjoying as a digestive set-off to the port they were consuming came direct from Singleton, 156 miles away.
"You can imagine them brushing aside the claim with a 'can't believe it, old chap, the only Cheddar worth eating is imported . . . dear old England, you know,' and chuckle derisively at the very idea that Australia could produce such a superlative product.
"Yet it's true all the same, and the man or rather, youth, who is responsible for this health-giving food is only 26 years of age, Singleton born and bred, an Australian whom it is a pleasure to meet.
“Stand up, Maurice Walton Varnum, cheese maker at the singleton Central Dairy Co-operative Society and may the salary your company pays you reflect the opinion the cheese consuming public entertain of your delicacy.
"Australian industry is full of romance, but the little fellows' who build it seldom hit the headlines on the scale that Essington Lewis, B.H.P. genius for example, does.
"Nevertheless, in their way, they are performing a national service applying their talents just as beneficially to the advancement of Australia.
"Abominably modest on the surface, one has got to get behind them, peer, if possible into their minds, before one realises the asset they are to the community.
"I called on Maurice this week a few hours after the toothsome Cheddar cheese that emerges from his vats had swept the board at the annual exhibition of produce in N.S.W.
"'Four firsts,' he said. 'Well, that's not bad.'
'''Not bad,' and this from a youngster of 26! Let an American of his age establish such a record— and others — and he'd be nationally known overnight. 'It's difficult at any time to get a youth who has done something worthwhile into the correct focus, especially when he be country-bred. One finds oneself battering against a wall of reticence, searching for a loophole.
"Maurice and I lounged against a shelf in the Co-op's cheese-room the other day. "Tell me,"' I said 'about your career, the how-come the savoury morsels that the public like to read about.'
"I tossed my pencil down, thinking to set him at ease, but what he told me about himself began and ended in five minutes. A sort of bread and butter recital that, on the surface, was not so interesting, until one dredged the story to its foundations.
"Maurice honoured Australia with his services at the age of 16, after Xavier's College released him as a go-seek-your-future lad. He linked up with the Post Office as a temporary telegraph boy, cut Singleton lawns in his 'off' periods. One of their owners was George Searl, manager of the Co-op, at the time and, as events proved, a very discerning citizen.
"Mr. Searl gave him a job, 'because.' as Maurice says, 'I was a long-armed bloke with a strong back.' The factory took fine care that he climbed the industrial ladder rung by rung and not effortlessly either.
"When he got as far as the cheese room, the youth's boss at the time, made it plain to Maurice that top-notch cheesemakers had to survive a stiff apprenticeship.
"Maurice had the nous to appreciate that point of view and dug in his heels. He assuaged his thirst for knowledge in observation of his superiors, in studying every book that dealt with cheese manufacture on which he could lay his hands and the experience, of that virtue for which a young virile nation such as ours is renowned—initiative.
"Here and there he faltered, but profiting by his mistakes, made it his ambition to win through. Coming more or less into a position where ex pert advice was helpful he graduated to the stage where he began to feel the Impact of science upon his job.
"It came from Department of Agriculture experts with long years of laboratory and practical knowledge behind them. Cheesemaking, although perhaps you don't know it, is a highly specialised business and science bridges the gap between the routine experience of the factory and that knowledge that lures an enthusiastic student on to higher levels.
"The Department of Agriculture gentlemen didn't take long to recognise in Maurice a youth with a purpose and, as he says himself, he was grateful at times to find them at his elbow to help him solve his problems. The minor ones he overcame himself but at no point was he too proud to accept the advice of men who had been through the mill.
"Of course he rose. Within four years he was the key cheese man at the factory, turning out a product that has won national recognition as the best of its kind.
"He inveigled me into one of the Co-op's cooling chambers in which, on a large board is displayed a proud record of the factory in an impressive succession of prize-winning awards issued by various Show societies.
"But before that, he led me around the cheese-manufacturing room itself and it was there that he really let himself go.
"It was exhilarating to hear him open up on the constituents of his cheddar, the milk, the whey, the rennet, the salt, the bacteriological cultures, the wogs that can make all the difference between good and bad cheese, all of the meticulous detail that has to be observed before the company permits its product to go out to the public.
"At the age of 20 Maurice got his milk and cream tester's ticket which covers cheese as well. I said: 'Weren't you rather young to win such a ticket?' " 'Oh, no,' he replied, 'others were younger.'
"When one hears of a comparative youngster admitting that one junior to himself is his equal, well, such modesty speaks for itself.
"Although he didn't say as much, I gathered that Maurice's pulse beat a little faster when he won his first gold medal in a continuous grading class for cheese. This award is not the result of one 'lick.' It is the outcome of a weekly effort extending over four months and the experts in Sydney make very sure that the cheese they examine is up to the standard they set.
"The competition intrigued Maurice and in three successive years the gold medal came his way.
"His only comment: 'I set myself out for a hat trick and I did it.' There was nothing savoring of egoism in the way he said it, rather a reflex of the individualism which he has developed.
"The 60 tons of Cheddar he makes annually could be greatly increased but for the fact that he does not get sufficient milk the Co-op, rejects as not up to standard for city consumption. He smiles when one asks what happens when there is a surplus of milk.
"There isn't any,' he says.
"After spending a half hour in his 'mild freezer' and partaking of delicious samples of his Cheddar, he offered to open another door leading to an Antarctic region where, he assured me, the exhibits were quite comfortable.
"Firmly, respectfully, I declined.
"Once upon a long time ago I spent a night in a 'cooler' in Alexandria as the guest of Tommy redcaps; since when, between me and any type of cooler a bridge of distaste exists.
" 'Just as you like,' murmured Maurice.
"As we shook hands I felt the prouder for having met the lord of Australia's Cheddar castle— Nick."
Hi Ian,
Here’s another part of the “tribe” for you to trace.
Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), Wednesday 5 August 1942, page 14
MAGUIRE.—August 4, 1942, at her daughter's residence, Mrs. Pegram, 24 Normanby Road, Auburn, Sarah Ann Maguire, beloved mother of Mary (Mrs. King) Frances (Mrs. Preston), James, Joseph, William, Elizabeth (Mrs. Pegram), Annie (Mrs. Barnes, deceased), John (deceased), aged 84 years. RI.P.
MAGUIRE.—The Relatives and Friends of Mr. and Mrs. A. KING, Mr. and Mrs. P. PRESTON, Mr. and Mrs. JAMES MAGUIRE, Mr. and Mrs. JOSEPH MAGUIRE, Mr. and Mrs. WILLIAM MAGUIRE, Mr. and Mrs. H. PEGRAM, Mr. H. BARNES and FAMILIES are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of their dearly loved MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER, Saran Ann Maguire; to leave St. John's Church Auburn, THIS (Wednesday) AFTERNOON, at 2.30 o'clock for Catholic Cemetery, Rookwood.
Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), Monday 4 January 1926, page 10
MAGUIRE. — December 30, 1925, at the residence of his daughter (L. Pigram), Normandy-road, Auburn, James Maguire, formerly of Wilton-street, city, aged 80 years. R.I.P.
Cumberland Argus and Fruitgrowers Advocate (Parramatta, NSW : 1888 - 1950), Friday 8 January 1926, page 13
On December 30, the death of Mr. James Maguire occurred at his residence in Normanbury-road, Auburn. He was 80 years of age, and had been a bricklayer before his retirement. Born in County Caban, Ireland, he came to Australia 64 years ago. He leaves a family of five grown-up children. The remains were interred in the Roman Catholic Cemetery at Rookwood.
Thank you Kerry,Regards, Ian
Hi Ian,
Bridget’s death registration showed up today. Don’t know why it wouldn’t appear last night. DOD was 21 Apr 1908.
VARNUM BRIDGET 4726/1908 JOHN (Father) BRAIDWOOD
Marriage:
2425/1893 VARNUM GEORGE GARDINER EMMA BRAIDWOOD
2427/1893 VARNUM GEORGE GARDINER EMMA BRAIDWOOD
Braidwood Review and District Advocate (NSW : 1915 - 1954), Tuesday 28 August 1945, page 2
OBITUARY.
MR GEORGE VARNUM.
By the death of Mr. George Varnum, which occurred in Goulburn Hospital on Tuesday last, the Braidwood district loses one its oldest landmarks. He had only been taken by ambulance to Goulburn on the Sunday before his death and had been in Braidwood on the Saturday, when he appeared to be his usual jovial self. The passing of this fine old stalwart came as a shock to his many friends and as a tremendous blow to his wife, who at the time was very ill. Deceased was one of the district's oldest identities, invariably cheerful and ready for a joke, and known and respected by everyone.
Born at Warri 83 years ago, son of the late John and Bridget Varnum, who came from England and Ireland respectively, he spent some of his early days at Araluen in the gold claims, and later, when the family moved to Six Mile Flat, he began farming there. It is interesting to note that his parents lived to great ages, his father to 105 and his mother to 88. It is claimed that the former is the oldest person buried in Braidwood cemetery. The late Mr. George Varnum was a good farmer, growing wheat for the flour mills and also going in for dairying. He was recognised as one of the best ploughmen in the district for many years, and won many ploughing matches, his work with a single furrow plough being practically perfect. He also attained a reputation as an expert fencer, his services being in demand all over the district. He married Miss Emma Gardiner, member of a well-known Araluen family, 53 years ago. There were no children.
The late Mr. George Varnum was a worthy son of the fine old pioneer stock from which he sprang. He worked hard in his young days, when conditions, despite the oft-used term, "the good old days," were considerably tougher than they are now and wages were nothing like as good. Wherever he went he made friends and let it be said there was no more staunch or more solid friend than George Varnum. No legal documents were needed to bind him in any deal—his word was always considered good enough. Possessed of remarkable vitality he was able right to the end to do as good a day's work as any man. Possessed of a keen sense of humour, he could always appreciate a good joke. Though he did not associate himself with any of the district's organisations, he nevertheless followed their activities very keenly and was a caustic critic at times. To his widow we extend our sincere sympathy.
The funeral on Thursday was well attended. Rev. Fr. O'Callaghan officiated. The deceased was buried in the same grave as his mother and father. Amongst the mourners were several members of the McGuire family, nephews and nieces, who lived in Braidwood many years ago, viz. James, Joseph and Mrs. Pegram, of Auburn. Another nephew, Mr. John Mullins, of Araluen, was also present.
Birth: GARDINER EMMA 7136/
1865 JAMES ELIZA BRAIDWOOD Death: VARNUM EMMA 16593/1947
JAMES ALICE CANTERBURY Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), Monday 28 July 1947, page 16
VARNUM Emma—July 27 at 41 Hillard Street, Lakemba, widow of the late George Varnum of Braidwood aged 81 years.
Braidwood Dispatch and Mining Journal (NSW : 1888 - 1954), Friday 8 August 1947, page 2
OBITUARY.
MRS. EMMA VARNUM
By the death of Mrs. Varnum, widow of the late Mr. George Varnum, of Six Mile Flat, the Braidwood district has suffered a great loss. She had been residing with her sister, Mrs. Tom Ginns, at Lakemba, and had not been in good health since the tragic shock of her husband's death about two years ago. Though ill she had been able to get about and had only taken to her bed a couple of weeks before death claimed her. Besides being a staunch churchwoman the late Mrs. Varnum throughout her long and useful life practised Christianity in the true sense of the word. She was in truth a woman possessed of all those wonderful qualities— courage, charity, kindliness and a full sense of the meaning of the word neighbourliness —with which we always associate our pioneers. The old lady had many friends in the Braidwood district, who all admired and loved her for her many acts of kindness and consideration. The sad news of her death came as a great shock to them. She was a grand neighbour and a true friend.
The late Mrs. Varnum was born at Araluen 81 years ago, one of six daughters and two sons of the late Mr. Jim Gardiner, pioneer of the gold mining days of the Valley. Later, she came to Braidwood and then married Mr. George Varnum, going to live at Six Mile Flat until he died, and then going to live with her sister at Lakemba. There were no children of the union. Mrs. T. Ginns, late of Araluen, is the only remaining female of the well-known and highly respected Gardiner family. Also surviving is a brother, William (Queensland). It is rather a sad coincidence that her elder brother, Jim, died in Brisbane on Sunday last, the same day as her death occurred, at the age of 79. Five sisters predeceased her, viz., Susan (Mrs. J. Mullens, Araluen), Minnie (Mrs. Jessop, Sydney), Eliza ( Mrs. Bruce, Sydney), Miss Alice Gardiner (Sydney) and Louise (Mrs. Dayball, Sydney).
The Rev. K. Kingston, of Lakemba, officiated at the funeral service, the cremation ceremony taking place at Rookwood Crematorium on Monday, 28th July.
Thank you Kerry,The Gardiner Family was quite a challenge but I think I have identified everyone.
Regards, Ian
Hi Ian,
This man has been bugging me since I found his records last night. His criminal record showed that he was involved in the robbery & murder of an elderly woman but must have played a “minor” part because his 2 accomplices were executed, whereas he was transported for life.
I believe that John Varnum who died at Six Mile Flat on 8 Apr 1907 & was buried at Braidwood Cemetery may be the same person (https://www.findagrave.com/
memorial/176718745). I had a few problems tracking down records for him & his family due to so many different variations of his surname being recorded. He was supposed to have been 105+ years of age at death but I had a similar problem with my great grandfather who was supposed to have been 104 when he died but was actually 8 years younger. Death:
VARNUM JOHN 4151/1907 1O5 YRS SIX MILE FLAT BRAIDWOOD
Mr. John Varnum, whose death is announced may be considered one of the oldest residents not only in this State, but in Australia. His age is given as 105 years, but some old residents state his actual age was 112. The deceased arrived in New South Wales in 1831, when, it is stated, he entered the service of Dr. Wilson, and presumably has been resident in the Braidwood district ever since.
- Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940), Thursday 11 April 1907, page 1
Mr John Varnum, who had been a resident of Six Mile Flat, in the Braidwood district, for over 60 years, died on Monday week, at the remarkable age of 105. The deceased arrived in this State from his birthplace, Surry, England, 75 years ago.
- Shoalhaven Telegraph (NSW : 1881 - 1937), Wednesday 17 April 1907, page 4Marriage:
1497/1857 VERHMEN JOHN DEVINE BRIDGET BRAIDWOOD
Children:
VARNON SARAH A 5629/1858 JOHN BRIDGET BRAIDWOOD
VERNON SARAH A 5629/1858 JOHN BRIDGET BRAIDWOOD
VARNON MARY 5500/1859 JOHN BRIDGET BRAIDWOOD
VEARHAM JOHN 5808/1861 JOHN BRIDGET A BRAIDWOOD
VERNON GEORGE 6090/1862 JOHN BRIDGET BRAIDWOOD
Marriage:
3468/1883 MACGUIRE JAMES VERNUN SARAH GOULBURN
4163/1884 GREGGS WILLIAM VARNUM MARY (MP ID 48008) BRAIDWOOD
Death:
VARNUM GEORGE 16668/1945 JOHN BRIDGET GOULBURN
VARNUM JOHN 21913/1934 JOHN BRIDGET SINGLETON
GRIGGS MARY 20666/1941 JOHN BRIDGET MARRICKVILLE
MAGUIRE SARAH ANN 15628/1942 JOHN BRIDGET AUBURN
Bridget died in April 1908. Ancestry has her death registered as 4726/1908 but this reference does not turn up any results on BDMNSW.
Braidwood Dispatch and Mining Journal (NSW : 1888 - 1954), Wednesday 22 April 1908, page 2
Obituary.—Another of our old residents has passed away in the person of Mrs. Bridget Varnum of Six Mile Flat. Up to a fortnight since she was hale and hearty for her advanced age of 88. Upon becoming ill Dr. Llewellyn was sent for, and the last time he saw her was on Sunday night, but she died the following morning at 5 o'clock. She had been a resident of the district of 60 years standing Her husband, Mr. John Varnum, passed in his clearance a short time since at the age of 108. Before Mrs. Varnum's marriage she was house keeper at the Church of England Parsonage for the late Canon Allen. She leaves one son, who has been managing for her on the farm, and a daughter, Mrs. Maguire, of Braidwood.
Braidwood Dispatch and Mining Journal (NSW : 1888 - 1954), Friday 26 October 1934, page 2
DEATH OF BRAIDWOOD NATIVE
Mr. John Varnum, of Elizabeth Street, died in the Dangar Cottage Hospital, Singleton, on Monday afternoon (says the 'Argus'). The deceased, who was 71 years of age, was born at Braidwood. He came to Singleton 20 years ago to accept the position of maintenance overseer to the Municipal Council, and retained it until his death. Deceased was a capable and conscientious servant of the Council, and was held in the highest esteem by the members of the Council, the office staff, the maintenance staff, and a large body of relief workers. His genial and happy temperament, allied to sterling honesty and integrity, won him a large circle of friends, and his death is deeply regretted. Deceased is survived by Mrs. Varnum, two daughters and three sons. The funeral took place on Tuesday, the remains being interred in the Catholic cemetery. Several beautiful wreaths were received, including tributes from the Mayor and aldermen, Council staffs, and unemployed relief workers. The pall-bearers were four of his old working comrades, and the large gathering at the last obsequies included representatives of the Municipal Council and all grades of municipal employees. Deceased, who was a brother of Mr. George Varnum, of Six-mile Flat, and Mrs. W. Griggs, of Braidwood, will be remembered by many residents of the Braidwood district, where he was engaged in road-contracting years ago. He was foreman for years for the late Mr. W. McCaffrey, who was also a big road contractor and bridge-builder. Deceased's father, the late Mr. J. Varnum, was 109 years of age when he died.
Braidwood Dispatch and Mining Journal (NSW : 1888 - 1954), Friday 11 July 1941, page 2
OBITUARY
General regret was expressed on all sides when word was received of the death in Sydney last Thursday of Mrs. Griggs, wife of Mr. William Griggs, of Warri, Braidwood. The old lady, who had reached the great age of 83, was well known and highly respected throughout the district. Though she lived a quiet, retiring life, she was a kind-hearted old soul, ever ready to assist anyone in distress, and always only too anxious to contribute to any deserving charity. She did not have an enemy, her hospitality and general good nature endearing her to a wide circle of friends. For some four years she had resided in Sydney, and for the past 12 months had been in very bad health. Born at Warri, a daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. John Varnum, she had lived in the Braidwood district for practically the whole of her life. A husband and family of 11 survive, viz., James (Warri), William (Sydney), Albert, (Larbert), Selby (Punchbowl), Mrs. Bevan (Bankstown), Mrs. Moir (Bondi), Mrs. Kiggins (Thirroul), Mrs. McKenna (Sydney) , Sister Martena (Granville), Mrs. McGregor (Granville), and Mrs. Alexander (Melbourne). A son, the second child, died when a baby. Mr. George Varnum (Six Mile Flat) is a brother and Mrs. McGuire. (Sydney) a sister. The funeral in Sydney was very largely attended, the old lady being widely known and respected. There were many very beautiful floral tributes.
Much more to come but it’s getting late & I’m tired.
Cheers, Kerry
Regards, Ian
SEARLE
On 2019-11-30 22:35, Bill Meani wrote:
Proposed Change: Searle, Joseph (I61946)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php? personID=I61946&tree=MP
Description: A search on Ancestry has Joseph Searl marrying Martha Fuller on 24 Dec 1778 (Film 1279444 Ref 14-17). There is some conjecture about Martha Love's ancestry (wife of John Love). Some say she married Roger Searl(e) who was an officer on the Royal George. Martha Love's maiden name was Merryman and you have her noted that she was a widow when she married John Love. Some also say Martha was the illegitimate daughter of Richard Kempenfelt who was the Rear Admiral on the Royal George. Roger and Richard + 1000 others perished when the Royal George sank in 1782. I cant find any hints that suggest Martha's previous name was Fuller. Can you help unravel this mystery?
Bill Meani
Hi Bill,
Sorry, we have no information that might help you with the puzzle.
Regards, Ian
BYRON
On 2019-11-30 14:25, Geoffrey Byron wrote:
Proposed Change: Byron, Patrick (I14508)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php? personID=I14508&tree=MP
Description: Patrick Byron's Death Certificate reveals he died from tetanus, after having a non specified accident. He suffered for 7 days before succumbing to the illness.
Geoffrey Byron
CLULEE
On 2019-11-29 23:04, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Clulee, Charles James (I174465)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php? personID=I174465&tree=MP
Description: Another daughter?
Birth
CLULEE DOROTHY F M
3205/1898
CHARLES J
MAUDE M
GOSFORD
Marriage,take your pick
8313/1919
STEPHENSON BERTIE
CLULEE DOROTHY F M
GLEN INNES
9313/1919
STEPHENSON BERTIE
CLULEE DOROTHY F M
MORUYA
Will email headstone shortly
Warwick
On 2019-11-29 13:00, Geoff wrote:
Proposed Change: Stewart, Montague Edward (I2231)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php? personID=I2231&tree=MP
Description: Montague is Buried at Woronora with wife Irene
Roman Catholic Monumental - Section 12 - 1007
Cheers, Geoff
On 2019-11-21 13:37, Deb Perkins wrote:
Hi Ian – the baptism records for Mary and Margaret are attached, plus a photo of Margaret's Mum's headstone at the Mittagang Cemetery (no doubt who the adoring daughter is).
Hope you don't mind, but a couple more possible changes.
I think the Josephine O'Bryan who married Osborne Devereux is not Mary and Jeremiah O'Ryan's daughter?
I think, after John Bede O'Ryan (1872-1873) and Edmund Ernest O'Ryan (1874-1956) Mary and Jeremiah had
- Ambrose Bede O'Ryan – BDM 1876/9355 – Grenfell – (or it's a big coincidence with the middle name of his big brother who had just died)
- Bridget Josephine O'Ryan – BDM 1877/9650 – Grenfell
And possibly
- Mary P O'Ryan – BDM 1883/26722 – Newcastle
Anyway, hopefully it helps – thanks so much for a great site,
Craig
Hi Craig,
Thanks for the images. I have done some more research and on Trove I found some articles for James Devereux and his family which does shed a lot more light on the descendants, particularly for Mary and Jeremiah Joseph O’Ryan.
Regards, Ian
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On 2019-11-13 11:56, Gregory McInnes wrote:
Proposed Change: Gough, Shirley Adeline (I138641)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php? personID=I138641&tree=MP
Description: Born: 1934
Died: 2 October 2019
The Monaro Post Funeral Notices
SCHAEFER, SHIRLEY ADELINE
Passed away peacefully on Wednesday October 2nd 2019 at Cooma Hospital,
formerly of Sir William Hudson Memorial Centre Cooma.
Aged 85 years.
Dearly loved wife of SELWYN(dec), mother of COLIN, ROY, MAUREEN, FAY (DEC) AND JENNY AND FAMILIES.
The relatives and friends of the late SHIRLEY ADELINE SCHAEFER are invited to attend her funeral service to be held in the Baptist Church, on Wednesday October 9th 2019
commencing at 11:30am.
At the conclusion of the service, the cortege will proceed to Cooma Mittagang Cemetery.
Allens Funerals Cooma
Allan Dodd Director
Family Owned & Operated
FDA 02-6452 2094
Gregory McInnes
CALDWELL
On 2019-11-13 11:27, Gregory McInnes wrote:
Proposed Change: Caldwell, Harold William (I369223)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php? personID=I369223&tree=MP
Description: Add child:
Peter John, CALDWELL
Born: 1946
Died: 7 November 2019 at Cooma Hospital, NSW
Death Notice The Monaro Post
CALDWELL, PETER JOHN
Passed away on
Thursday, November 7th 2019 at Cooma Hospital
formerly of RoseValley Rd, Bunyan. Aged 73 years.
Dearly loved partner of Jennifer for the past 40yrs. Father of Cassandra
Drake. Brother of Allan.
Son of Harold and Maude (DEC).
The relatives and friends of the late
PETER JOHN CLADWELL
attended his funeral service in the Chapel of the Norwood Park
Crematorium, Mitchell on Tuesday November 12th 2019 at 9.00am.
A memorial service was held at the Cooma Bowling Club at 2.00pm on
the same day.
Allens Funerals Cooma
Allan Dodd Director
Family Owned & Operated
FDA 02-64522094
Gregory McInnes
On 2019-11-12 12:02, Peter wrote:
Hi Ian,The latest newsletter featured a notice re the Lecount story and rang a bell from the mention of the author's name -Roland POULTON. This triggered a long held intent to contribute to the Pioneers Database with references to Poulton, Swift, Tibbs, Richardson and Hughes surnames.
It's a convoluted story and starts in England before moving to Tasmania and, later, the Monaro.
John POULTON, a soldier, married Louisa ABBEY in London in 1812 before coming to Tassie in August 1826. He and Louisa had three known children before arrival – Jane (19 Jan 1815), Louisa (19 Sep 1821) and Sarah (16 Feb 1824). Sadly, John died soon after arrival in Hobart – in October 1826.
The widow Louisa later married John SWIFT in Hobart on 23rd June 1827. John was a convict who had been transported on 26th April 1819 and arrived Hobart in 1820 (I don't have the exact date at this stage).
He, Louisa, the three Poulton children, and Swift children – Amos (4 Dec 1827), whose name already appears in the Pioneer's Register, and Ruth (20 Jul 1829) moved to the Yass district some time after the expiration of John's sentence where they acquired some 16,000 acres at Cooradigby (Wee Jasper).
Louisa POULTON, the second of the Poulton children, prior to the move to Monaro, married James TIBBS in Hobart 9 Oct 1839. The couple had Louisa Abbey (20 Apr 1840), Mary Ann (10 Apr 1842) and John Poulton (20 Apr 1844). James died at Hobart in 1855 and Louisa with the three TIBBS children moved with the Swifts to NSW. TIBBS had also been a convict and was transported via ship Phoenix on 29 Mar 1824, arriving Hobart 21 July.
Louisa remarried at Yass on 24 Dec 1860 to Henry HUGHES. There were no children to this marriage and Henry died at Beechworth, Vic, in 1898 and Louisa at Wangaratta 1 Jun 1886.
The crux of this tale comes with the marriage of Louisa Abbey TIBBS to Edward Henry RICHARDSON at Yass on 17 Jan 1858. Edward's background is obscure but he is stated to be a 'Grazier' and 'Bachelor' on the marriage certificate – no parental names or place of birth are recorded. The couple had the following children – William Henry (1859) at Yass, and the following all at Tumut - Amos Edward (1860), an unnamed stillborn male (1862), Hannah Mary Louisa (1864), Caroline (1866) and Elizabeth (1869). There were no further Richardson children.
The next development comes with a notice in the NSW Police Gazette of 9 Feb 1870, page 45, which reads –
"A warrant has been issued by the Tumut Bench for the arrest of John Dawson, charged with stealing the mare No. 7 in this week's list, the property of Edward Henry Richardson, Tumut. Dawson is about 35 years of age, 6 feet high, medium build, fair hair and whiskers. Supposed to be travelling with the wife of the complainant, and may be riding a bay mare, with horseshoe brand near shoulder, the property of Brown Anderson of Tumut."
This case was never resolved as John and Louisa next appear in the Victorian records, at Lucknow – a suburb of Bairnsdale - where they raised a further seven children. However, at this point, John's surname changes to GRAHAM.
Whether this was his real name and DAWSON was an alias or vice versa has not been resolved as efforts so far have failed to trace his arrival in Australia under either name. Only two of these seven children were ever registered and the existence of the others has only become known from marriage and death certificates (including those of John and Louisa) and information from their descendants.
It would seem that the youngest Richardson child Elizabeth (only a baby at the time), travelled with the couple to Victoria, and was there renamed Isabella. She later converted to Catholicism and became a nun, spending many years in Western Australia and on retirement, lived at St Joseph's Convent in Sydney where she died in 1964.
Information provided by GRAHAM descendant, Mavis Yeates, adds some colour to Louisa's life –
"Louisa Abbey Graham (nee Tibbs) born at Yass N.S.W. on 12th April 1840. She was brought up by her grandparents, Mr & Mrs Swift who were on the land about 20 miles out from Yass N.S.W.
Louisa Abbey Graham by all accounts was a great horsewoman. She was never known to open a gate when riding a horse; she would jump over the slip-rails easily. Even after the family was grown up Louisa would get on an unbroken horse, which had to be blindfolded whilst she got on the horse, and then go riding into the bushland.
During those early years at Yass, Grandma Graham told us the wagons went to Sydney every 6 months for supplies. They made their own clothes (at least most of them), bread, candles, etc.
We don't know anything about John Graham's parents after they arrived in Australia. Where did they settle? Probably on the land as they were farmers in the north of England. What a shame we didn't ask more questions about our ancestors.
John and Louisa Graham were very fine people and worked hard to provide for their large family. We have a photograph of John Graham and he was a fine looking man."
Further information, author and date unknown (although probably also Mavis Yeates), states:
"I believe John Graham came out to Australia by ship (name unknown) with his parents when he was 5 years of age. His father was a ship's carpenter. John Graham must have had a fairly good education for those days as he was a great reader. The latter part of his life he was an invalid - one of his legs was crushed by a falling tree. I believe he was a miner. I have no record of his brothers and sisters, although I was told one sister, Jane, married a Mr Hughes and went to U.S.A.
Louisa Abbey Tibbs was brought up by her grandparents (Swifts) who lived on the land about 20 miles from Yass, N.S.W. Her mother was Jane Tibbs. No record of Louisa Abbey Tibbs parents?
John and Louisa Graham came to Lucknow, Victoria, about 1869.
I have already written to the Statist's Office, Sydney, NSW for a copy of a Marriage Certificate of John and Louisa Graham and have been notified 'No Record' of the marriage there."
The notes about John's parents were made without knowing anything about the circumstances leading to John and Louisa's lives prior to arrival in Victoria.
There is no record of John and Louisa ever having married – possibly due to not wanting to risk a charge of bigamy should they ever be found out. However, arriving in Lucknow with a small baby would have created the impression that they were already married and no suspicion would have been aroused.
John's death certificate stated his parents' names as John GRAHAM and Isabella DAWSON. To date, no record has been found of this couple's arrival in Australia – nor of John's under either surname. The truth of John's real surname and ancestry may never be known.
A major motive in putting this together – for inclusion in the Pioneer's Register or otherwise – has been my curiosity as to what befell the RICHARDSON children after their mother left them for John GRAHAM. How did they survive? Did they have relatives who could take care of them? Did Edward remarry? Are there descendants out there who may be interested in or have information about this account?
My connection? One of my wife's aunts married one of John and Louisa's children – Roland Victor Graham whose descendants all now live in New Zealand.
Regards, Peter Robinson
My memory's not as sharp as it used to be..
Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
Regards, Ian
On 2019-11-06 23:04, Janice Le-Grant wrote:
Hi Ian,From his ticket of leave passports I have tracked him from Maitland to Windsor then on the recommendation of The Windsor Bench dated 21/4/1843 that he be allowed to remain at the Maneroo Plains in the service of Mr William Pendergast for 12 months. On the recommendation of The Yass Bench 21/5/1844 this was extended for 12 months to 21 July 1845 . He was listed in the Convict Pardons 1842-1845. I have been unable to locate him any further and wondered if any record of him staying in the area. He was born c 1805 being 29 years old when sentenced so at this stage would have been 40 yrs old. His convict papers show him as a land steward/landlord and left a wife and 3 daughters behind in Tipperary Ireland. His sentence was for life so doubt he would have been able to return to Ireland . If any one can offer any further information on him would be most grateful.
Kind regards, Jan Le-Grant Gold Coast Qld.
Hi Jan,
Sorry, we have no information on William Meagher that would be of any help unfortunately.
Regards, Ian
On 2019-11-05 22:24, Helen Bion wrote:
Proposed Change: Worland, Joseph Hostler (I56482)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php? personID=I56482&tree=MP
Description: Joseph Worland was baptised as Joseph Worland. His father's occupation is recorded as Hostler. A Hostler is a person who looks after horses at an Inn. Reference to his father being a Hostler also appears on the baptism records of a number of Joseph's siblings, and in the August 1863 (Cooma) death record for Joseph's brother William. In other records of the time Joseph's father is referred to as a Fly Proprietor / Fly man. A Fly was a 2 wheel carriage drawn by a single horse, essentially the taxi of the day.
Regards, Helen
WARE
On 2019-11-05 16:48, Margaret Ware wrote:
Hi Ian,
I have been looking for details of Michael John Joseph Ware. He is a descendant from Patrick Ware (Abt 1813-1876). Patrick and his family settled in Collinton/Collington in the Michelago area, and Patrick is buried in Michelago Cemetery.
One of Patrick's sons was Henry Joseph Ware. Both Patrick and Henry are on your list of Monaro Pioneers.
For some reason Henry's list of children on Monaro Pioneers does not list Michael John Joseph. As far as I know M J J Ware was born in 1882. I cannot find a birth notification for him, which is not unusual for the time. But I have found a Boer War record for him which I will scan and attach. In the record he states he was born in Collington and his father is Henry Joseph Ware.
I thought you might like to look into this information and include M J J Ware in your Boer War list, and perhaps in your Monaro Pioneers list. I have undocumented information that he was born on 3 March 1882 and died in Canberra on 5 July 1940.
Please let me know if I can provide any further information for you, and if you can think of any church records which may record Michael John Joseph's birth. He is my husband's grandfather. I have information from Ancestry.com and written documents from a close relative.
Regards, Margaret Ware.
Hi Margaret,
Thank you for the information, we did in fact have Michael John Joseph Ware in our Database, but we did not know who his parents were nor did we know he was a Boer war veteran so you have helped us make the connection. He does now appear on our list of Boer war participants.
Regards, Ian