McTERNAN
On 2020-07-06 15:39, Therese Johanson wrote:
Hi Ian,
Information regarding Catherine McTERNAN 1862-1937:
also known as “Kate” died 06 February 1937 at Newington State Hospital and Asylum for Women, Auburn NSW.
NSWBDM 2353/1937 (death certificate transcript attached) - details completed by Newington clerk as best he could.
Buried Rookwood cemetery.
No trace of marriage to Edward Herbert “Bert” RAYMOND who died 09 April 1919 at North Sydney NSW.
NSWBDM 11085/1919 (death certificate transcript attached).
Buried Gore Hill cemetery.
Cheers, Therese
WALKER
On 2020-07-05 03:26, Brad Kennedy wrote:
Hi Ian,
Thanks for getting back to me and for the valid point you raised regarding permissions to marry for William Henry Walker. However, I would need to investigate this record further as I am less convinced it is my 4th great-grandfather William Henry. There are a couple of issues around the documentation for William Henry Walker, that for me, lower my confidence in it being my William Henry.
These are:
- Both William Henry and Mary Ann Hogan were illiterate, yet the convict indent listed William Henry Walker as being able to Read.
- The certificate of Freedom has a note towards the bottom of the page that reads "determined to sail for London immediately". It doesn't necessarily mean he actually left Australia for London, however the court case records (and this note on the certificate of freedom) give me the impression of a man that felt he was wrongly convicted and transported, and who was interested in getting back home to London to get on with the rest of his life.
- There are several convict records for the name William Henry (and even more where the first/middle names are William Henry with a different surname) that exist in NSW during this period of time.
Additional information I have on my 4th great-grandfather William Henry includes:
- William Henry and Mary Ann Hogan were married in Eden in the district of Maneroo [sic], NSW on 27th September 1852 1. He was a bachelor; she was a spinster; and both were from the parish of Eden. William was a whaler in Twofold Bay 2. He was "blind in one eye" and "a little hard of hearing".
- Their first child, Charles William Henry was born in the District of Queanbeyan, NSW in 1853 3. He was baptised there on 22 Jan 1854.
- Their second child, William Ernest Henry was born in Nimety Bell 5 on 26th January 1855 4. He was baptised in the parish of Queanbeyan on 1st May 1855; William and Mary Ann were living in Nimitybelle [sic], NSW 4.
- Their third child, Mary Ann Henry (my 3rd great-grandmother) was born in Delegate, NSW about 1857 6,7.
- Their fourth child, Susan Henry was born about 1858 in Omeo, VIC 8,9.
- William Henry was killed in a mining accident while working on a claim in Omeo for Enos Bishop 2. He had only been working for Enos Bishop for 4 months, had come up to Omeo from Gippsland, prior to which he was whaling in Twofold Bay, NSW. He did not own any property and left behind a widow and 4 children.
Sources:
- Parish marriage record of William Henry and Mary Ann Hogan.**
- Inquest into death of William Henry,"; Unit 65, Item 1859/303; PROV, VA2807 State Coroner's Office (known as Registrar-General's Department 1856-1873), VPRS 24/P0000 Inquest Deposition Files; Public Records Office of Victoria.**
** indicates personal copies of records held by me
I have been meticulously researching to identify how they may have travelled from Twofold Bay to Omeo. It looks like they may have gone across through Delegate but, with William's whaling background, I have not ruled out the possibility of them travelling by ship first to Port Albert or even Melbourne. I contacted the Whaling Museum in Eden who advised that there had only been 20 years of European habitation in Eden during the time period in question and that they held very few records related to that time period.
Do you have any contacts in the Bega Valley Genealogy Society who may have access to records that could help me in my search? I contacted them a couple of years ago but nobody responded to my inquiries.
Kind regards,
Brad
Hi Brad,
I am the person who added the information on "William Henry Walker" alias "William Henry". The information was first discovered from the marriage index online and then from the convict indexes on the State Records site. The convict images were obtained from Ancestry. All the information and images we have are available online in our database.
As William Henry (Walker) married after his freedom from servitude there was no need to seek permission to marry hence there is no such record available.
It was common practice back then for ex convicts to change their name after serving their term and given the time frame involved to move south to Victoria in search of gold.
Again if you can provide additional information to fill in the blanks we would be very grateful.
Regards, Ian
On 2020-07-02 23:49, Brad Kennedy wrote:
Hi Ian,
Mary Ann Hogan was my 4th great grandmother and is listed on the monaro pioneers website. I have been researching her for quite a long time and have a number of BDM certificates related to her. She married a William Henry in Bombala in 1852. William Henry has been very hard to find information on, although I do have things like his death inquest from a mining accident in Omeo, VIC. I noticed someone has added that Mary Ann Hogan's husband was a convict named William Henry (with the surname "Walker") and added some documentation (eg, Convict Indent, Ticket of Leave, Certificate of Freedom).
I am not sure who added the above information, but I would be extremely interested if they had further documentation that validates the link between William Henry Walker and Mary Ann Hogan. I'd honestly welcome the breakthrough at the moment as it has been a tough slog to find information on William Henry. The current Convict Indent, Ticket of Leave, and Certificate of Freedom don't provide me with enough evidence of a link to my 4th great grandmother Mary Ann Hogan though. Do you know of another document that may provide this link, for example, a convict marriage request...although there were a number of people around at that time named Mary Ann Hogan so there may need to be something more identifiable about a marriage record.
Appreciate any information you can provide.
Kind regards,
Brad
Hi Brad,
In light of your comments I agree the marriage link between Mary Ann Hogan and William Henry Walker (Convict) is very questionable and as such I have removed the link.
I would guess the Henry's would have followed the overland Route to Gippsland.
I don't have any current contact details for the Bega Genealogy Society.
Regards, Ian
THOMAS
On 2020-07-04 19:02, George Thomas wrote:
Hi Ian
I suggest I425883 and I416403 are the same James Thomas.
Attached is Marriage Certificate for James (I416403) and Harriet Cook. It does show his occupation as Miner which while no big deal is consistent with the William & Jane Thomas’ family from Beechworth of whom I425883 is a son).
Charles & Margaret (nee Thomas daughter of William & Jane) Blackman have a daughter Letitia Violet Blackman.
It is my contention that this demonstrates a very close relationship between the two families.
The chart showing the above relationship is also attached.
Regards, Geo T
O'ROURKE
On 2020-07-02 16:57, Brad Kennedy wrote:
Hi Ian,
Thanks.
I have attached an excerpt on Jane from My Family Tree program with the children information and relevant citations.
Jane's life has been quite complicated to research and I am working with a number of other descendants to piece it all together. I can provide relevant documentation to back up all information attached if needed - just let me know.
Regards,
Brad Kennedy
Hi Brad,
Thank you for the information, I have amended our records accordingly.
I have been able to find the two children born to Jane and Henry Wilkes but am unable to find any children registered to Jane and John McFarland. Where were those children born?
Perhaps you could provide the additional details to fill in the blanks?
Regards, Ian
On 2020-07-02 14:39, Brad Kennedy wrote:
Proposed Change: O'Rourke, Jane (I401582)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/getperson.php?personID= I401582&tree=MP
Description: Hi Ian,
I am happy to be wrong, but I do not have any documentation substantiating that Jane O'Rourke married a Thomas Duggan in 1868. If that documentation exists, would you be able to have whoever holds it send a copy to me to validate.
Jane O'Rourke was my 3rd great-grandmother who was actually born in Campbelltown, NSW on 25 September 1834. It is unclear whether or not she actually went to Wulgulmerang with her family in the 1840s as her grandparents in Appin (NSW) were unwell - I am still working on that research.
Marriage wise, I have documentation that shows she married a Henry Wilkes in Queanbeyan, NSW in March of 1853; then married a John McFarland in Yackandandah, VIC on 7 March 1861. She had 7 children, with William Andrew McFarland being born in 1871, which would indicate she wouldn't have married a Thomas Duggan in 1868.
As I said, I'm happy to be proven wrong if someone can provide the documentation, however I have researched Jane O'Rourke's life extensively over the past 5 years.
Kind regards,
Brad Kennedy
Brad Kennedy
SMART, THOMAS/ GIBBS, ELIZABETH MEATON
On 2020-06-27 20:22, Peter Robbie wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
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Description: Elizabeth Meaton Gibbs is not the daughter of John Gibbs and Susanna Case. They were married in 1829 and Elizabeth was born in 1825 and according to England Birth details, John's sister was her mother, and her death cert, details indicate her father's surname was shown as Maton.
Peter Robbie
THOMPSON
On 2020-06-25 10:23, LBURKE wrote:
Good morning Ian.
Another 2 certificates
1..Birth certificate for Duncan Thompson son of Malcolm and Jessie
He is the fourth child of Malcolm Thompson and Jessie nee Denoon.
Could you add him to the database, thanks.
Also have enclosed a marriage certificate for a Duncan Thompson and Elizabeth Rankin in 1893.
I can't work out where Duncan's place of residence is.
I know from the electoral rolls Duncan was a resident of Bega from 1884 to 1897.
Would you take this marriage certificate as proof that the Duncan on the marriage certificate is the Duncan from the birth certificate.
If I knew the place of residence I might more certain.
Unfortunately I have no oral history on Duncan.
Thanks Leah Burke
Thank you Leah,
I agree that Duncan is the person who married Elizabeth Rankin.
The question now is what happened to them?
Regards, Ian
BYRNE
On 2020-06-18 19:43, Deborah J Freebairn wrote:
Hi Deb,
The information provided to the Centennial History of New South Wales in 1888 would have come from Martin Byrne himself or one of more of his children. What a "shock" that the information provided is not completely accurate and an embarrassing secret such as his convict past was overlooked. Very common practice back then to hide such facts in order to present a respectable image. We include the information from that text unaltered to allow researchers to see what was written but hopefully see the truth from the actual facts also included in his profile page.
I doubt there would be many such articles in that publication that would be completely factual, but it does provide interesting reading about early life in Queanbeyan and surrounding district and achievements, real or imagined of the pioneers.
Regards, Ian
TOWNSEND
On 2020-06-16 17:15, Dean Garraway wrote:
Bath & Cheltenham Gazette August 16th 1836 Page 4 Columns 3-4
John Cleverly, William Garraway, Cyrus Garraway, Charles Barrett and Moses Townsend were indicted for assaulting George Churchill, putting him in fear and robbing him of 9s 6d and other articles near Bath.
George Churchill lived at Swainswick near Bath. On Saturday night 16th July he was returning from Bath accompanied by his son about 9 oclock at night; he had a basket containing some sugar and other articles; when they got as far as Tadwick Lane he saw the five prisoners whom he had known for some time; he said to them good night, gentlemen; John Cleverley said aye! and then knocked him down. Cyrus Garraway then fell upon the witness, cut out his pockets with a knife and took away 9s 6d. Witness said I have got no watch. William Garraway said search him! and one of them searched him; they picked things out of his basket; Cyrus Garraway searched the boy and took the hat off his head; the other prisoners held him down; they all went away together. Witness remained there for some time cross examined. The boy appeared to be much frightened; had drunk a pint of ale in Bath, and half a pint coming back.
Henry Churchill the son of the last witness corroborated his fathers testimony.
John Hulbert found a basket in a field on his way to Pinacre (?) on the morning of 17th July. Thomas Gunning lives at Swainswick, remembers the prosecutor coming to him at about 11 oclock that night.
Henry Perry, officer of Bath, apprehended William Garraway; he was in bed; told him what he took him for; he made no reply.
Isaac Hall was at the White Lion tap on the night of the robbery and saw all the prisoners drinking together.
Mr Baron Alderson having summed up, the jury found all the prisoners guilty, death recorded
Dean Garraway
STONHAM
On 2020-06-15 11:13, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.
Description: Birth Christening
Name: William Stonham
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 4 Aug 1854
Event Place: Yass, New South Wales, Australia
Event Place (Original): Yass, New South Wales, Australia
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1854
Birthplace: New South Wales, Australia
Father's Name: James Stonham
Mother's Name: Margaret
Other information in the record of William Stonham
Name: William Stonham
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 4 Aug 1854
Event Place: Yass, New South Wales, Australia
Event Place (Original): Yass, New South Wales, Australia
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1854
Birthplace: New South Wales, Australia
Father's Name: James Stonham
Mother's Name: Margaret
GS Film Number: 993965
Digital Folder Number: 007715148
Citing this Record
"Australia Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:
Warwick
STONHAM
On 2020-06-15 08:27, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
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Description: Death of Mr. A. Stonham.
A very old and respected resident of Tangmangaroo, in the person of Mr, Alfred Stonham, passed away at two o'clock on Saturday morning, at the age of 71 years. The deceased has been a resident of Yass and the district for close on 60 years.
For many years he has been farming at Tangmangaroo, where he was looked upon as a very honest and straightforward man. and a kind and good neighbour.
He leaves a wife and grow up family, besides a large number of relatives. The funeral took place on Sunday afternoon, and was largely attended, the remains being interred in the Church of England cemetery, the Rev. H. E Lewin reading the prayers for the dead. Mr. E. Pearce conducted the funeral.
The Yass Courier (NSW : 1902 - 1929) Tue 1 Oct 1907 Page 2
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Warwick
NORMAN
On 2020-06-12 14:46, LBURKE wrote:
In the Bega Budget 15 Oct 1919
Thomas Wallace Norman name placed on a plaque in the Church of England for those who gave their lives. Although Norman passed away at home it was from conditions he endured in the North Sea
Bega Budget 1 January 1919
On Christmas eve, Norman Worland, A.B. of H.M.A.S Australia, died at the Bega hospital, aged 22 years. The young naval seaman served in the North Sea, and the severe climate so affected his health that he was invalided home. Anout three weeks ago he went to the hospital suffering from double pneumonia, and gradually became worse intil death took place as stated. Deceased was the son of Mr. and Mrs. Worland of 'Elmgrove" Bega. The funeral took place on Christmas afternoon, the remains being interred in the Church of England cemetery, the Rev. B.D. Bryant reading the burial service.
SMH 27th Feb 1941
Edith Worland died in 1941 at Bankstown. (SMH Worland-Feb, 26th at her residence 12 Wattle Street, Punchbowl. Edith dear wife of Thomas Francis and mother of Stanley and Norman.)
Thomas Worland died on the 23rd March 1952..SMH Worland Francis-March 23 1952 at 144 Smith Street Kempsey, husband of late Edith Worland late of Bega from SMH death notices)
Cannot find anything on the death of Stanley Thomas
McFADZEN
On 2020-06-11 23:09, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
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Description: OBITUARY.
MR. WILLAM McFADZEN.
The death occurred on May 24, from pneumonia, of Mr. William McFadzen, 33 Sterne-street, in his 73rd year.
He leaves a widow and ten children. The sons are Messrs. W. McFadzen, Gundagai; Walter and Albert, Bungendore, and Bruce, Goulburn. The daughters, are Mrs. F. H. Edmonds, Bungendore; Mrs. H. Wright, Mrs. Sibthorpe, and Misses Elsie and Jessie, all of Goulburn.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940) Tue 29 May 1923 Page 2
Warwick
FRASER
On 2020-06-11 23:06, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
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Description: OBITUARY
MRS. ANNIE McFADZEN
Mrs. Annie McFadzen, aged 67, died at the Goulburn District Hospital on Tuesday last after a short illness. The late Mrs. McFadzan was a native of Goulburn and had lived here practically all her life. Her husband, the late William McFadzen predeceased her about seven years.
She is survived by five daughters. Mrs. T H Edmonds (Bungendore), Mrs. H. G Wright (Haberfield), Mrs. R. C. Brown (Murrumburrah), Mrs. S. Rawcliffe and Mrs Purdon (Goulburn); three sons, Stanley and Albert (Bungendore), Bruce (Goulburn); and one step-son, William (Sydney). Mrs. E. Lambert, of Sydney, is a sister. The funeral took place yesterday afternoon at the Presbyterian portion of the General Cemetery. The Rev. Crowther Smith officiated at the graveside.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940) hu 18 Dec 1930 Page 2
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Warwick
LADD
On 2020-06-11 21:12, Warwick wrote:
Proposed Change: Ladd, Alexander William (I161007)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/getperson.php?personID= I161007&tree=MP
Description: BUNGENDORE.
From our Correspondent.
THERE was quite a flutter of excitement in our little town on Wednesday last, the occasion being that of a double marriage, performed at the same time in the Presbyterian Church. The contracting parties were Miss Jennie Edmonds and Mr. Hugh Harriott, and Miss Isabel Edmonds and Mr. Ladd. The brides were sisters and daughters of Mr. and Mrs W. Edmonds of Ingledow.
The church was most tastefully decorated by Miss Olive and Master Allen Edmonds, this being the first marriage celebrated in the building, which was crowded with friends and relatives of the newly-married couples. The Rev. Mr. Smith officiated.
The bridesmaids for Mrs. Harriott were Miss Grace Harriott, and little Annie Edmonds, and for Mrs. Ladd Miss O. Edmonds and Miss Wolloms, with Master Reggy Edmonds as page. Mr. Abernethy presided at the harmonium, and played the Wedding March as the happy couples left the church.
A reception was afterwards held in the Temperance hall, at which about 50 persons were present, and a very pleasant evening was spent. Both brides were the recipients of numerous useful and costly presents. Mr. and Mrs. Ladd left by train the same night for Manly, where the honey moon will be spent, with best wishes of their numerous friends for their future welfare. From Manly they proceed to Melbourne, which is to be their future home.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940) Tue 13 May 1902 Page 1
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Warwick
Thank you,Regards, Ian
EDMONDS
On 2020-06-11 21:11, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
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Description: DEATH LADD, Isobel (Belle) Eliza.- October 18, 1962, at Queanbeyan, late of "Thornleigh," Bungendore, wife of the late Alexander Ladd, loved mother of Lloyd (Reg), of Manly. Herbert (deceased), Beth (Mrs. A. J. Gorman, Darling Point) and Margaret (Mrs. T. N. Donoghoe, Queanbeyan); beloved mother-in-law, grandmother and great-grandmother of their respective families. Aged 84 years.
FUNERALS LADD.-The relatives and friends of the late Mrs. Isobel Eliza Ladd, of "Thornleigh," Bungendore, are kindly invited to attend her funeral to leave St. Stephen's Presbyterian, Church, Queanbeyan, after service commencing at 2.30 p.m., to-morrow, Saturday, for interment in the Canberra Cemetery.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995) Fri 19 Oct 1962 Page 20
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Warwick
EDMONDS
On 2020-06-10 23:18, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.
Description: OBITUARY
MR. WILLIAM EDMONDS
With the death on September 11 of Mr. William Edmonds, of "Ingledow," the Bungendore district lost one of its finest pioneers. The late Mr. Edmonds, who was 86 years of age, died at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. Ellen Robbins, of Haberfield, Sydney. Born in the Braidwood district, Mr. Edmonds went to Bungendore 52 years ago, and there established "Ingledow." By hard toil and integrity in his dealings he built up a well-favoured inheritance for his wife and family.
In order that he and his wife could attend church service they frequently rode 30 miles by horseback to Queanbeyan each Sunday, exemplifying their true pioneer spirit.
He is survived by five sons and four daughters, William (Parkes), Allan (Burrowa), David (Sydney), Herbert ("Ingledow"), Roy (Lockhart), Mrs. Harriott (Bungendore), Mrs. Ladd (Bungendore), Mrs. Smith (Sydney), and Mrs. Robbins (Sydney). There are 30 grandchildren and 20 great-grandchildren.
The funeral took place at Bungendore, being preceded by a service conducted by the Rev. C. E. Turnbull, Presbyterian minister at Canberra, who officiated in the absence through illness of the Rev. W. L. Arnold. There was a large congregation present, and a most impressive address was delivered by Mr. Turnbull. The organist, Mrs. Kitcher, played Handel's' "Dead March in Saul." The casket was covered in a mass of beautiful floral tributes, including wreaths from the congregation of St Johns Church, of which Mr. Edmonds was an elder, and from the firm of Schute, Bell and Co. Rev. Turnbull conducted the service at the graveside. The remains were laid to rest beside those of Mr. Edmonds' wife, who predeceased him by seven years.
The Burrowa News (NSW : 1874 - 1951) Fri 21 Sep 1934 Page 2
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Warwick
McFADDZEAN
On 2020-06-10 23:17, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.
Description: OBITUARY
MRS. W. EDMONDS
Mrs. W. Edmonds, wife of Mr. Wil liam Edmonds, 'Ingledow,' Bungendore, passed away at her late home on March 7, at the age of 79. Deceased was born at Sutton Forest and came to the Bungendore district when only eight years old, and had resided in that district ever since. She was widely known and respected, and was an ardent worker for the Presby terian Church. Besides her husband she leaves five sons and four daughtters, also thirty grandchildren and four great grand children. The sons are W. J. (Cumnock), D. L. (Chatswood), J. A. (Burrowa), T.H. ('Ingledow'), and R. ('Lockhart,' Bungendore). The daughters are Mesdames H. Harriott ('Clare', Bungendore), A. Ladd (Auburn), S. J. Smith (Lidcombe), and N. Robins
The Burrowa News (NSW : 1874 - 1951) Fri 23 Mar 1928 Page 7
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EDMONDS.-March 7, 1928, at lngledow. Bungendore, Isabella Edmonds. beloved wife of William Edmonds, aged 79.
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Thu 8 Mar 1928 Page 10
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IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW SOUTH WALES-Probate Jurisdiction.-In the Will of ISABELLA EDMONDS late of Bungendore in the State of New South Wales Married Woman deceased.-Application will be made after fourteen days from the publication hereof that Probate of the last Will and Testament of the abovenamed deceased may be granted to WILLIAM JAMES EDMONDS the Executor named in the said Will and all notices may be served at the offices of the undersigned. All creditors in the Estate of the deceased are hereby required to send in particulars of their claims to the undersigned. F. P. WOODWARD Solicitor Queanbeyan. By his Agents.
Messrs. F. A. DAVENPORT and MANT Solicitors, 34 Martin-place. Sydney.
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Mon 12 Mar 1928 Page 2
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Warwick
HARRIOTT
On 2020-06-10 18:31, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.
Description: Wedding Bells.-A very pretty wedding was celebrated in the Church of England on Wednesday by the Rev. Canon Leigh, the parties united being Miss Grace Harriott and Mr. M. Harris.
The church was crowded during the ceremony, and as the happy couple left the building the "Wedding March" was nicely rendered by Miss Richer. The wedding breakfast was at the bride's sister's (Mrs. G. Gale's), and over 60 sat down. Numerous very pretty presents were on view. The newly-wedded pair left by the evening train with the best wishes of their numerous friends for their future welfare.
Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940) Sat 27 May 1905 Page 4 BUNGENDORE.
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Warwick
SUTHERLAND
On 2020-06-10 14:10, George Thomas wrote:
Hi Ian
Mea culpa -I must retract much of my deduction regarding burial of Frederick Sutherland at Kiandra, presented in the May Newsletter regarding the SUTHERLAND connection (my email to you 2020-05-11). My wise guide Phyllis Dowling has identified my error in assuming Frederick Sutherland died and was buried at Kiandra. The 24 Dec 1889 newspaper report: “SUTHERLAND December 24, at the Infirmary, in his 10th year, Frederick Donald, third son of Mr. Adam Sutherland. West Pinbeyan, Kiandra. Tasmanian papers please copy.”. refers to an infirmary in Sydney not Kiandra. Phyllis has pointed out my error and confirmed he died in Sydney and is in fact buried in Rookwood cemetery. I believe the other input regarding the merging of identities on your database remains accurate.
Apologies for my inaccuracy regarding Frederick.
Regards, George Thomas
ELTON
On 2020-06-10 12:42, Kevin and Helen McSweeney wrote:
THOMAS
On 2020-06-09 03:02, Kellie wrote:
I196678 Herbert Thomas Born to 1. above, around 1895. His enlistment papers (copy attached) 3076 Dvr Herbert Thomas on 24MAY1916 shows age 21 indicating approximate birth date. He married Mary A Sefton NSW BDM 9279/1933. Herbert died NSW BDM 4828/1976.
Attached chart has Irene (1910) and Madeline M (1915) as additional children.
I have been searching and adding obits for the sons/daughters of Frederick John Thomas and Elizabeth (Keown). Not one obit mentions a brother Herbert. All other siblings are named, even if deceased BUT no Herbert.
In Herbert's enlistment papers he lists an address c/o M Thomas, West Wyalong.
I'll keep looking tomorrow but I don't think Herbert is connected to the correct parents/family.
George Edgar did enlist (in both wars)
http://www.monaropioneers.com/
Elizabeth's death as incorrect. I looked up the death notice and the husband as Thomas and a whole bunch of different kids named.
http://www.monaropioneers.com/
Being so poor, there's a good chance she remarried soon after FJ's death, as she had young children to care for.
Thanks Kellie,
Ian
HAYDEN
On 2020-06-05 18:09, Warwick wrote:
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.
Description: Obituary.
It becomes our painful duty to record the sudden death of Mrs Corbett, wife of Mr. J. Corbett, farmer of Grabben Gullen, which sad event took place at her late residence on last Monday evening from heart failure.
The deceased lady appeared to be in her customary good health to within a few minutes of her death as she had prepared the tea for her husband and family and was chatting brightly with a neighbour who happened to be passing. Mr. Corbett had just gone out to to draw some water from the well, when he was attracted by the cries of his youngest daughter and hurriedly ran to the house, when upon entering, he found Mrs. Corbett prone upon the floor. Efforts were promptly taken to revive, what was assumed to be a fainting woman, but eventually it became only too apparent that the spirit had fled beyond recall.
The late Mrs. Corbett, who had passed the best part of her life in the district, was widely known and universally respected, and had nearly attained the allotted span, being 65 years ; leaves a sorrowing husband and grown up family of three sons- William, Eugene, and Gus, and three daughters-Mrs. E. Lowe (Crookwell). Mrs M. Horan (Grabben Gullen), and Miss Corbett to mourn the loss of a most exemplary wife and mother. The funeral took place on Wednesday and was largely attended. The remains were interred in the R C. portion of the Crookwell cemetery. Rev. O. Clark officiated at the grave. The sympathy of a very large circle of friends is with the mourning relatives.
Argyle Liberal and District Recorder (NSW : 1903 - 1930) Fri 25 Oct 1907 Page 2
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Warwick