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2020 Number 07

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CURRENT CORRESPONDENCE: 
STOVE

On 2020-08-03 14:01, Margaret Bellette wrote:

24 Boyd St. Nimmitabel

Hi Ian,
My name is Margaret Bellette. I am in the process of purchasing the property at the above address. It belonged to William Roy (Cheeky)Stove who died in 2018. I think it may be a Workers Cottage but haven't been able to confirm this.  I would like to know something of the history of the little cottage if that is possible. Boyd St faces on to the old historic Mill in Clarke St.
Can you help me find information about the original family who built the cottage?

Kind regards,  Margaret Bellette
 
Hi Margaret,

The Bombala Historical Society is probably your best bet or you could try putting your request on our Facebook page.

Regards, Ian


CASSIDY

On 2020-08-03 17:04, Chris Keher wrote:

Proposed Change: Cassidy, Agnes (I124074)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: 
http://monaropioneers.com/getperson.php?personID=I124074&tree=MP

Description: I have the baptismal page photo of Agnes Cassidy. She was born 14 Nov 1870 and baptised 12 Feb 1871. Her parents are listed as Annie Cassidy and Patrick Keeffe. I can send a copy of the pic if you let me know how to do this. My Grandmother was Annie Cassidy Packett born 1906; she was named after her grandmother who died that year. My uncle took the pic of the page in about 1980, I think it was Mary Immaculate church at Tumut though am not sure.

Chris Keher
 
Thank you Chris,

If you could scan the Baptism image send me a copy it would appreciated.

Regards, Ian


SCOTT

On 2020-07-30 16:30, Janette Cleaver wrote:

 Hi Ian

 I have attached photo I took taken at Wolumla Cemetery of the headstone of the above.   Headstone has different death dates and ages for Samuel (Family ID F50944) than what is listed on the Monaro Pioneers website.  I think the Victor Scott on the Headstone is the son of Robert Scott and Victor's given name is Robert L Victor Scott.  Person ID 172074.  I cannot find the connection of why 2 different Scotts would be on the same headstone.   Thank you for all the information you provide to us so we can build our Family Tree.

Regards,      Janette Cleaver

Thank you,

Regards, Ian 

 

ADAMS

On 2020-07-28 12:59, Dee Lutze wrote:

Comments (Adams, N.C.): I am looking for information about Norman Clarence Adams who is my biological father. I have DNA results from Ancestry that show two first cousins Sandra Garrett daughter of Kathleen Mary Adams and Karen Wheeler daughter of Patricia Olive Adams. I have sent them messages through ancestry but no reply as yet. Hoping you can help me with this search. 
Kind Regards Dee
 
Hi Dee,

The only information we have is in our database.

Regards, Ian


ELLIOTT

On 2020-07-28 11:12, Michelle Martin wrote:

Proposed Change: Elliott, Una M. (I396180)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: 
http://monaropioneers.com/getperson.php?personID=I396180&tree=MP

Description: Una was my paternal grandmother.
She married Lancelot Dawson on 29/3/1934
They had two children Lancelot Barry born 10/12/1934 Died 31/5/1992
and Olive Dates of birth and death not known
Date of Death: 9/8/1972
She is buried in Woronora Memorial Cemetery Sydney 

Michelle Martin

Thank you,

Regards, Ian


SHELDRICK

On 2020-07-26 19:41, JohnMillen wrote:

Proposed Change: Sheldrick, May Victoria (I240417)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: 
http://monaropioneers.com/getperson.php?personID=I240417&tree=MP

Description: Had a daughter to Albert Cooper. Phyllis May Sheldrick born 1 Oct 1917 Sydney, died 31 Mar 2013 Liverpool. married william henry millen 11 Apr 1942 Campsie.
Then to John Joseph Reay she had William John Reay Born 1 Aug 1927 Adamstown. Then she had Olga Valerie Reay Born 24 Dec 1933.

JohnMillen

Thank you,

Regards, Ian


McNEILLY

On 2020-07-24 10:00, deb wrote:

Proposed Change: McNeilly, Elizabeth Josephine (I258270)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: 
http://monaropioneers.com/getperson.php?personID=I258270&tree=MP

Description: Robert Valentine Cannon Marriage date: 15/11/1938 Spouse's name: Elizabeth Josephine McNeilly Registration details: 1938/C/4118 Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

24 DEC 2009 • Grafton, New South Wales, Australia

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/194151561

deb

Thank you,

Regards, Ian


EAGER

On 2020-07-21 22:33, Robin Droogleever wrote:

Dear Ian,
              You and the Monaro Pioneers gave me terrific help last time I made an inquiry over John Francis Eager also of the 1NSWMR, I got a lovely reply from Christine Randall. Now I am back again courtesy of the COVID for I fully intended driving up to Bega and working with you on the fellows from the district who served with the 1NSWMR. I have a great deal of information which I am more than willing to share. However there is one fellow I have nothing much on to share at all - John (Jack) McCracken. He was mentioned in despatches for his part in capturing a Boer Maxim gun at the battle of Vet River on 5 May 1900 and later returned for a second period of service and was killed in 1901. Apart from the in formation that he came from Bemboke, near Bega and served in the militia with the Bega Mounted Rifles little is known about him. I do not know when he was born; who his parents were and whether he was married. I am hoping someone would have those details. There is some reference to him being Scottish which may well complicate matters. 

Damn this COVID, there is much to do. Apart from seeing you good people, I am hoping to get to Kameruka to see the memorial to Douglas Lucas-Tooth as well. 

Best wishes,  Rob Droogleever

 

Hi Rob,

Everything we know about Jack McCracken is in our database, not much unfortunately.

I don't live in Bega so please bear that in mind when planning your proposed trip.

If you want to add any information to the records of any individuals in our database, please send the material to me and I will make the necessary changes.

Regards, Ian


WILSTEAD

On 2020-07-19 16:26, David Barton wrote:

Proposed Change: Family: / Wilstead, Mary
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: 
http://monaropioneers.com/familygroup.php?familyID=F141532&tree=MP

Description: William Barton's father was Stephen Barton (1758-1818)born in Brighstone Isle of Wight and died in Shorwell Isle of Wight. His mother was Mary Wilstead (1769-1809) born on the 24 December 1769 in Chale Isle of Wight and died in Shorwell aged 39 years in 1809 when William Barton was born. William had the following brothers and sisters. James (1788-1873); Stephen (born 1791); Elizabeth 1793-1895); Thomas (1796-1873); Mary (b 1799); Hannah (b 1803) and then William born 1809. His mother probably died in childbirth. PS. I am directly related to William's brother Thomas Barton and came to Australia in 1981 from Hampshire. 

David Barton

Thank you,

Regards, Ian


KERIN/WOODGATE

On 2020-07-17 14:14, Jenny Lock wrote:

Hi Ian
 
During my family history research, I recently came across an incredible story that relates to the Monaro at the time of the Spanish Flu in 1918 - 1919. Perhaps pertinent considering our current predicament with Covid19.
 
The Kerin/Woodgate family is not included on the Pioneers database as they would only have been in Cooma for a short time. However, their story demonstrates the generosity of the people of Cooma to one of their families during this very trying time. 
 
I'm not sure if or where this extract 'Trouble at Cooma' might have a place re the Monaro Pioneers but more than happy to leave that up to you. Please let me know if you need any more information about this story. 
 
Kind regards,  Jenny Lock
 

Hi Jenny,

Ann Charlotte Kerin nee Woodgate and her Husband and children are included in our database because of their association with Cooma.  I have added your extract to Ann's record and with your permission I will add it to our Facebook page.  I am sure our readers will find the information of interest.

Regards, Ian

 

Trouble at Cooma…

The following extract is from the book ‘The Woodgates of Parramatta – A family history’ by Peter Codd (1999). This publication is housed in the National Library (Npf 929.20994 C669).

James Woodgate (from Thorington in Suffolk), a convict, was transported to the Colony in 1825 on the ‘Norfolk’, along with his brother Israel Woodgate and second cousin George Woodgate. James Woodgate was Kathleen Woodgate’s great grandfather and my fourth great grandfather. 

As we are in the grip of the global pandemic Covid19, this extract is pertinent, as it describes the devastation of the Spanish Flu on families in Australia in 1918-1919 and demonstrates the generosity of the people of Cooma to one of its families, at this dreadful time. It is believed to be one of the only personalised accounts of the Spanish Flu in Australia. Kathleen Woodgate (Peter Codd’s mother) was the youngest of twelve children. In 1919 she was living in the family home in Church Street, Parramatta. 

Trouble at Cooma

Both her (Kathleen’s) mother and father caught the Spanish flu when the epidemic hit Australia in 1918-1919. In the space of a year over 13,000 Australians died from the effects of the virus. Dr Kearney looked after them at home in Parramatta and Ethel (Kathleen’s older sister) nursed them.

Word came from her sister Ann in Cooma that they were in desperate straits. Her husband, Charles Kerin, had died from the flu, she was pregnant and caring for a young baby, Elizabeth (Betty), who was less than a year old. Her four other children Nell (8 years old), Helena (7 years), Patricia (5 years), and Laurence (3 years), were ill with the flu.

Julia Woodgate (her mother) asked Kathleen, aged 21 years at the time, to go to Cooma to help them. As soon as she arrived Ann was taken to hospital with a miscarriage caused from the distress and anguish she had endured. She took her baby, Elizabeth, with her but the baby died. Kathleen and the children could not go to the funeral because they were in quarantine. They could see funerals going along the street from the balcony of their house. The children saw one that they said must have been their baby sister Betty’s. Kathleen never forgot that. 

Kathleen was left to look after four sick young children in a house isolated by quarantine. The tradespeople of the town provided food for them. In the evenings, the matron or nurse from the hospital would come to the house and tell her what to do. For the first five nights she was so busy that she had no time to sleep. 

It was winter and Cooma, on the edge of the Snowy Mountains, can be bitterly cold. Water dripping from the bathroom taps turned to icicles. Kathleen kept a big fire going all the time with wood provided by the townspeople. They also brought hot food which they left on the verandah because they were not permitted to enter the house in quarantine. Kathleen would collect the food and take it in to the children. 

Eventually, Ann was discharged from hospital and Kathleen looked after them until they recovered.

When her mother and father got better, Ethel came to Cooma to help. The house was eventually released from quarantine and Kathleen, Ethel and the four Kerin children were able to go about the town thanking people for their kindness and asking what they owed. They were told nothing. When Ann and her children recovered, Ethel and Kathleen returned home. 

Charles Kerin had worked at the Nimmitabel railway station as a night officer. After he died, the railways offered Ann a position as gate keeper at the town of Orange which she accepted.

(Kathleen Codd (Woodgate) was born in October 1897 and died January 1994 aged 96 years old. She is buried in the North Rocks Cemetery in Sydney)

ABC Australian Story – Lest We Forget - 1 June 2020
 
In 1988, ABC Enterprises, Crows Nest, NSW recorded an oral testimony from Kathleen Woodgate, ‘The Spanish flu epidemic. In Voices from a vanishing Australia: Recollections of the way things used to be.’
Excerpts from this testimony were recently included in an episode of ABC Australian Story – Lest We Forget (1 June 2020). The transcript, from the ABC website, appears below. 
 
(Tony Ryan is the son of Patricia Kerin who was the child of Ann Kerin (Woodgate) aged 5 years at the time)
 

(ARCHIVE AUDIO RECORDING, KATHLEEN WOODGATE): We kept getting telegrams from Cooma and there was a telegram ‘send help at once Charlie died’. We were horrified. Charlie was my brother in law.

TONY RYAN, GREAT NEPHEW: My great aunt, my mother's aunt, Kathleen Woodgate, left her family in Parramatta, in Sydney. Kathleen was only 21 at that time. It was midwinter, she travelled down to Cooma, arriving into this cold and bleak place.

(ARCHIVE AUDIO RECORDING, KATHLEEN WOODGATE)

When I arrived at Cooma and they took me around to my sister’s place and the yellow flag was flying the four children were very ill. Vomiting blood and it was coming out of their nostrils. It was nasty.

TONY RYAN, GREAT NEPHEW: My mother was one of those children and she was aged five. She had suffered lifelong respiratory problems. This must have been an extraordinarily traumatic time.

(ARCHIVE AUDIO RECORDING, KATHLEEN WOODGATE)
 My sister was taken to hospital with a miscarriage, all the upset and everything. I said it’s alright I’ll do my best. And of course I didn’t know what to do.
 
(Prepared by Jenny Lock, July 2020)
 

BATES

On 2020-07-16 20:08, Allison wrote:

Proposed Change: Bates, John (I77267)
Tree: SE NSW Pioneers and Settlers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/getperson.php?personID=I77267&tree=MP

Description: John and Elizabeth Bates had another daughter Ella May born in 1917

Allison

Thank you,

Regards, Ian


ROWLEY

On 2020-07-10 19:49, Jenny Gregory wrote:

Hello Ian,
My grandfather is listed on your list of Monaro Pioneers who fought in the Boer War. 
He is Samuel William Rowley born: 18 December 1872; Died 27 August 1960 and is buried at Queanbeyan Lawn Cemetery in the Headstone Section. He lived in Sutton NSW at the time of enlistment and returned and lived there until after his marriage to Anorah Gertrude Cartwright on 10 March 1910. I can supply you with supporting information if you require it and photos of his grave.
So, his birthdate is incorrect on the list as is the cemetery in which he is buried.
Kind regards, 

Jenny Gregory

Thank you Jenny,
Yes we would appreciate any additional information and images you could provide.
Regards, Ian