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Patrick Cherry
Monaro c1878
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John Law <pam.john.law-at-bigpond-com> and
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Patrick Cherry taken in Temora
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Wane/Waen Cherry (Cherrie)
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Wane, Neil and Elizabeth Cherrie
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Winifred McDonald (nee Cherry) With Daughter Violet McDonald and Grand Daughter Agnes Gillett (nee McDonald).
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Charles Quinn and Nina Cherry 1905
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John Martin Cherry, son of Patrick Cherry
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Mary Cherry (nee Geraghty). |
Nina Quinn (nee Cherry) |
Patrick Cherry Patrick Cherry arrived in the Monaroo before 1878 from the Wollongong area where he was born. He worked in the Frying Pan Creek area and married Mary Geraghty (Garretty) on 29/7/1878. They moved to live at Alum Creek. Patrick took up a number of blocks in the Parish of Flinders NOs.19, 18, 12 13, 14 and Parish of Cosgrove Nos. 48, 50
and 51. These were taken up in the early 1880's. His wife left him about 1901 because "he was not a good provider" or "because she did most of the work about the place". By this time Mariatta and Winifred were married and John Martin had left home. Sometime after this Patrick moved off his property and went to Sydney to live. Did he live in the Penrith area or the Balmain Area or both? There was a Patrick Cherry who lived in the Penrith area and visited Clarence Cherry to have his cheques and papers signed. He apparently lived on a block of land in a shack or a tent. He was looked after by the Salvation
Army
Patrick Cherry definitely spent his last days in the Lidcombe Home for the Aged and died in the Hospital there.
Olive Garretty nee Quinn said she met him at Portland at the house of John Martin’s (Jack) place. This would have been between 1910 and 1918. He was a very big man but not tall.
John Cherry who lived in Penrith remembered members of our Cherry family, Nina Quinn, Mim Law, John Martin (Jack) Cherry and his family and a Patrick Cherry who would called regularly to have his Pension papers signed by Clarence, his father or Dick his older brother. Olive Garratty remembered visiting the Cherry family of Penrith (Clarence and Ethel) with her mother Nina Quinn when her son, Peter, was a baby. She did not remember why. Maybe it was to do with Patrick's death, as the year was 1935. Peter was born September and Patrick died in November.
It is quite obvious that Patrick Cherry could not read or write. When married and at the baptism of John Martin his name was spelled "Chenney". The spelling of the family for the three next children was "Cherrie" and finally with Nina it became "Cherry".
Another confusing point is that Patrick always registered his mother's name as Mary Flemming not Mary Burns. Perhaps his father’s mother's name was Mary Flemming or his mother’s mother’s name was Mary Flemming.
Nlna Cherry Why was she called Nina? Where does the name come from? When she was baptised she was able to hold her baptismal candle. (where?). She was Bridesmaid at her sisters’ weddings in 1899 and 1901. She told the story of how the cat had kittens in her bridesmaid's hat the night before the wedding. Nina had a great sense of humour and all of her stories were told with relation to the humorous side of things.
This is the story she told of leaving the family home at Alum Creek with her Mother when she was about 10 (1901). They waved good-bye to the two boys on the veranda as they drove off in the dray. Once when she was sleeping in the dray she "wet" the ones(?) who were sleeping under the dray.
She was put into a boarding school run by the Brown Sisters of St. Joseph at Pursville near Cowra. She had to work for her board by helping at the convent. On leaving school she worked at a hotel in Cowra, probably with her Mother Here she met Bill (William) Quinn and later his Brother Charlie (Charles) Quinn. She married Charles Quinn in 1905 when she was only 14 years old. Perhaps the "Reilys" who were witness were owners of the hotel where she worked. Mary Cherry had to give her consent to the marriage in writing, because Nina was under 21 years. A note says that " Father's whereabouts unknown."
Charles and Nina lived in Cowra until 1910, when they moved to Portland. By this time Olive and Peg had been born. Why they made the move is not known. It is possible that work around Cowra may have been scarce and there was work at Portland cement works. Nina's older brother John Martin (Jack) was already in Portland. This also may have been an influence.
The family lived in two different residences at different times. One was near the quarry. Mim, Reg and Phyllis were born in Portland. Nina took in washing and ironing for the Sisters from the Convent School. This paid for Olive's music lessons and school fees. Later Nina would joke about giving Heaven a miss "If everyone had to wear clothes like the sisters did because they were so difficult to wash and iron." Charles worked in the cement works. He was a very strong unionist and was a delegate for the area. He travelled to attend meetings even as far away as Sydney. Outsiders thought that he was a "red"
or a "communist".
In 1918 the family moved to Sydney. This move may have been for Charles's health. Charles worked with the water board and continued with his union activities. The family lived at Broadway, Paddington and Darlinghurst. Nina worked as housekeeper to various Doctors in the city. During the Great depression, she would buy the daily meal on the way home from work with the money she had earned that day. Nina’s mother lived with the family in the 1920's for a number of years. This was an added strain on everyone. In 19.. Charles caught the "Bubonic Flu". Although it did not kill him he never really recovered
his health.
The death of Phyllis in 1929 was a great blow to the family especially Nina. When Charles died in 1940, he and Nina were living with Mim and Charlie Law at William St in Granville. In 1943 Reg died of cancer of the bone. In 1944 when her son-in-law, Jack Law, died Nina travelled to Marani, via Mackay in North Queensland to help her daughter, Peg, to raise six young children. From this time on Nina spent her time between her three remaining daughters and their families. Her sense of humour and outlook on life were appreciated by all, especially her grandchildren.
Wane Cherrie
Waen A was born 23/2/1886 at Alum Creek, Cooma NSW. He married Elizabeth Murray in Cowra in 1912. He went to the First World War in the "Light Horse" and did not come back. He had an unhappy marriage. Nina burnt a photo of him in uniform when she was cleaning out her things in the 1940's because she thought no one would be interested in the past.
This information comes from Jan Cherrie, granddaughter of Waen (Wane) 30th Oct 2005.
Wane Cherrie and Elizabeth Murray
Wane Cherrie Was born (ref - 26466/1886) on 23 February 1886 by the side of a road, according to a family story. His parents were Patrick Cherry and Mary Geraghty
He was enrolled at Alum Creek Half Time School as Waen Cherry.
Wane's mother left Patrick in 1901, taking his 10 year old sister Nina, and leaving Wane aged 15 and Clarence aged 12. His older sisters were married and his older brother had left home.
He died 17 September 1917, killed in Action in WWI at Chateau Wood, Ypes, Belgium.
He is remembered at the Commonwealth War Graves, Perth Cemetery, Belgium. There is an inscription on the family grave at Rookwood Cemetery.
He married Elizabeth Murray (Ref - 013845/1912) in 1912
Elizabeth Murray, Jan's Grandma was born in 1887 at Cowra. Her parents were Cornelius Murray and Elizabeth Collins. She was born when her father was43-45 and
her mother 36 years. She died at Rockdale (Ref - 14048/1961) and is buried in Rookwood as Elizabeth Garbutt with Douglas who was her second child by Wane.
Elizabeth Murray married Wayne Alfred Cherry (Ref - 013845/1912) in 1912. Neil was born in 1913. WWI was declared in 1914. Wane enlisted in 1915 and left Australia in 1916 leaving Elizabeth pregnant, with a toddler and without money. Douglas was born in 1916 and died 1917. Wane died in 1917. Elizabeth married (ref -9429/1918) Albert George Garbutt (Ajax) in 1918. Her mother died between1912 and1918, and her father died in 1919. She had also lost two sisters and two brothers before 1919.
Albert G Garbutt was born (ref 18159/1888) in 1888 at Berrima. His parents were Reuben and Harriet. He died (Ref - 14057/1955) in Wollongong He was previously married to Emmeline Phillips in 1909 in Sydney. She died in 1910 at Moss Vale. There were no children of this marriage.
Children of Wane and Elizabeth
Neil Cherry was born 5 October 1913 and died 2 March 1998 at Singleton. Elizabeth intended Neil to be registered as Cornelius Colin, but Wane registered him as Neil.
Neil married Oliva Irene Earl in 1945.
His ashes are at St Johns Church of England Branxton NSW
He is listed in The Garden of Remembrance at Rookwood on the commemoration plaque - NX292190, Wall 28, Panel R.
Douglas Wane was born (Ref - 41704/1916) in 1916 and died at 3 mths (Ref - 196/1917) in 1917. He was buried Rookwood on 2 or 3/2/1917.
Rookwood Cemetery
Elizabeth Garbutt is buried with Douglas Wane Cherrie at Rookwood. Section L Grave 360 Mortuary 2 Row 5 Headstone 1918.
Wane is buried in Belgium but he has an inscription on the headstone with Douglas.
The Inscription reads:-
Sergeant Wane Cherrie Killed in Action Belgium Sep1917
also Douglas Wane, infant son of above, died 2nd Feb 1917 aged 3 months.
Elizabeth has a separate marble plate which simply says:-
Elizabeth 1st May 1961
Society of Australian Genealogists - Rookwood Cemetery Transcriptions
# 361315 has listed them incorrectly as Cherrie Wane, Douglas Wane and
Elizabeth Wane.
Cherry or Cherrie?
The following timelines show the variation of the spelling of the name Cherry. One plausible reason for these variations is they came about from a lack of reading and writing skills and the Irish ascents of the informants, Patrick in particular. There are also variations of the spelling of Wane, Waen and later Wayne.
Patrick Cherry
1856 birth of Patrick Cherry father Martin Cherry
1885 baptismal record shows Patrick Cherry
1878 marriage certificate Patrick Cherry
1879 birth of John Martin Cherry
1880 birth of Maretta Cherrie
1886 school records Meretta Cherrie
1899 marriage Meretta Cherry to John Davis Cherry
1883 birth of Winnifred Cherrie
1895 school records Winnifred Cherry
1901 marriage Winifred Cherrie to George McDonald Cherrie
1886 birth of Wane Cherrie father Patrick Cherrie
1889 birth of Clarence Cherry
1891 birth of Nina Cherry
1935 death Patrick Cherry
1935 burial Patrick Cherry
Wane Cherrie
1886 birth of Wane Cherrie father Patrick Cherrie
1895 school records Waen Cherry
1912 marriage Wayne Alfred Cherry father Patrick Cherry
1913 birth of Neil Cherry father Wane Alfred Cherry
1915 army records Wane Cherrie
1916 birth of Douglas Wane Cherrie father Wane Cherrie
1917 death Douglas Wane Cherrie father Wane Cherrie
1917 death of Wane Cherrie father Patrick Cherrie
1918 marriage Elizabeth Cherrie to Albert George Garbutt Cherrie
1918 headstone at Rookwood reads Wane Cherrie
Neil Cherrie
1913 birth of Neil Cherry father Wane Alfred Cherry
1931 birth registration amendment Neil Cherry to Neil Cherrie
1945 army records Neil Cherrie
1945 marriage Neil Cherrie father Wane Alfred Cherrie
1946 birth Janine Elizabeth Cherrie
1950 birth Maxwell Wayne Cherrie
1955 birth Michael Cherrie
1998 death Neil Cherrie father Wane Cherrie
Family stories from & of Wane Cherrie.
He was born by the side of the road. At this time his father was a drover. During the war he was posted to England to train the British soldiers in horsemanship. He used both forms of the spelling of Cherry and Cherrie. As his birth certificate has Cherrie, this is possibly why he enlisted under that name. Patrick, Wane's father spoke with an Irish ascent.
Clarence Harry was born 3/2/1889 at Alum Creek Cooma NSW. He married an Olive M L Le Francke in 1911at Tenterfield NSW. They lived up around Newcastle. He was notified by the family when Granny Cherry had a stroke. They had one child.
Joan b 1925.
Nlna was born 19/6/1891 at Alum Creek Cooma NSW. She married Charles Quinn in 1905. Her story is told in her own chapter.
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